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    it's only been a week but I can vouch for the R36 being a sensational car.

    in terms of the 325, I would have thought the cost of options that are standard on the R36, would make the Volksie the much better option?

    depends what you are looking for I guess.

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    Ok Guys, went to Essendon VW and the sales guy has given me a price of about 80K on the road for a R36 sedan with roof, Dynaudio and sunroof...seems excessive to me...is it?

    He was adding the LCT to the option prices...thought the LCT ws already included in these?

    I told him I only wanted blue with the options listed and he reckons there is only one in the country...in Perth.

    They do dealer swaps from time to time but no guarantees.

    Otherwise it is 14-18 weeks delivery from time of order.

    He didn't have a demo I could drive today, but said he will ring me this week as he is expecting one in.

    BTW I drove the 325i sedan today sport pack and it is a very nice car, built like a tank but to be honest wasn't blown away with the acceleration of the thing...seemed to me you really had to push the pedal to get it going...but when going boy it drove and handled well....tiny though when compared to the R36.

    I also took a Honda Accord Euro for a drive as well...bland & boring to drive...really a nothing car IMO.

    Thanks for the feedback thus far...

    Cheers Andrew...

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    There is both a new one and a demo one in Perth, blue sedan with satnav, sunroof and dynaudio. The demo one has 4100km and is listed at 67 990 on carsales.com.au. It started at something like 71 990 and has gradually been reduced over the last 1.5 mths. The problem with demo is the stamp duty which if I recall was over $4000. Not to mention what people probably do with them. I offered on both of them but at the time what I was offering was a bit too low.

    80k is the non discounted price for the options you want. If you can get a fleet discount because of the company you work for it is a great help, usually 10% for the R36. You actually get more than 10% off because the lower value of the car results in less LCT (the 10% is calculated on the cost of the car before taxes and options). Most people in this forum seem to have been able to achieve prices around 65k - 68k even for the wagon with those options. This is a further discount on top of the fleet discount. Check the price for passat thread which has a fair bit on the R36.

    I guess you'd need the 335 to get acceleration better than the R36. I too tried both Accords and was a totally different world. The R36 is much nicer to sit in even before you start the engine. The Euro despite its relatively sporty look and twin exhaust pipes is slower than my wife's standard Volvo S40. 0-100 was greater than 9 secs if I recall correctly. Feels ok to 60km/h, I guess that's how they set up the gearbox, but after that it was shocking. The Accord V6 did not feel fast either.
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    you need to compare the R36 to the 530i

    both the R36 and 530i drive quite similarly - the difference is, that for $70k or so, you are buying a new R36 with 4wd, 220kw, high performance, lots of extras or a 3 to 4 yo 530i with no extras. Still, the BMW drives well, looks great and goes pretty well. I bought the R36.

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    I hear ya...try and find a 530i that has heated front seats...let alone front and rear...it's all academic anyway.

    With the arrangement with my employer my car has to be either new or a demo...no second hand cars.

    Will test drive the R36 tomorrow at Werribee VW...the guy from Essendon VW assured me he would have one in this week and ring me...never did...hmmm

    With the R36 does it have an AV input for the MFD with Sat Nav?

    Just wondering if it's possible to wire in a TV Tuner?

    And just on the AWD system..how does it work. Is it constant 25% each wheel akin to my Liberty or it it split depending on loss of traction?

    Thanks Again...

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    you can get a tv tuner from o/s therefore not sue if it works here. as for seperate inputs none that are easy to access. not sure on the back side of the unit.....

    the AWD system is mostly front wheel drive this is a good description of it :

    As soon as differences in the speeds of rotation between the front and rear axles occur two annular piston pumps are activated which build up pressure in the multi-plate coupling (Haldex system) thus "coupling" the two axles to each other. The transmitted torque can be varied by adjusting the pressure on the coupling plates, thus controlling the flow of power between the front and rear axles. The coupling provides an infinitely variable torque transfer between the front and rear axles. In extreme cases up to 100 percent of the available torque can be transmitted to the rear axle. In the normal case with the vehicle travelling in a straight line at a constant speed with no differences in the wheels' grip, 90 percent of the available torque is transmitted to the front axle and ten percent to the rear axle. The Haldex coupling is driven by the propshaft.





    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Spitfire View Post
    I hear ya...try and find a 530i that has heated front seats...let alone front and rear...it's all academic anyway.

    With the arrangement with my employer my car has to be either new or a demo...no second hand cars.

    Will test drive the R36 tomorrow at Werribee VW...the guy from Essendon VW assured me he would have one in this week and ring me...never did...hmmm

    With the R36 does it have an AV input for the MFD with Sat Nav?

    Just wondering if it's possible to wire in a TV Tuner?

    And just on the AWD system..how does it work. Is it constant 25% each wheel akin to my Liberty or it it split depending on loss of traction?

    Thanks Again...

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    OK guys drove the R36 wagon and was impressed...so much more enjoyable than the 325i...and it didn't seem like I was driving a wagon...felt so much like a sedan.

    It was quick, heaps of bottom end torque, comfortable, roomy and beautifully weighted steering...not to mention those seats...sensational and a great steering wheel.

    I had no intention of considering the wagon but after seeing it and then the sedan...to be honest the wagon is nicer looking and will be more practical than the sedan. I just know if I order the sedan I will regret later not getting the wagon.

    One thing I did notice the wagon was a 09 spec, and had a different instrument cluster compared to the sedan which was 08, the wagon had the minor guages inset into the speedo & tacho and the MFD display between them was so much better in white than compared to the sedan...it made the old cluster look dated.

    So that being said if I want to order a new one that has to be built with the options I want...it is a 5 month wait...holy crap...

    Anyway dealer will come back to me this week but what sort of money are you guys paying for a wagon with Sunroof, Sat Nav, Dynaudio and auto tailgate?

    With respect to the Dynaudio Package...is it just the speakers that are upgraded from the standard audio system, or does the Dynaudio Package include upgraded amplification as well?

    Thanks Again...

    Cheers Andrew...

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    I would forget the Dyna Audio it is not worth the money... I too have done the exercise with the BMW Touring 3 and 5 series.. The poor audi's just don't have the power so they where dismissed...

    The R36 represents the best value for money given what your choices are and against BMW once you adding the extra's you are looking northward of 100K.

    Plus the R36 will eat up most cars on the road..

    p.s. I have just had the MDI cable installed while it took them 2 trips to the work shop to get it fixed it was well worth the money....
    MY09 White R36 Wagon with all the trimmings

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    Quote Originally Posted by R36Driver888 View Post
    I would forget the Dyna Audio it is not worth the money... I too have done the exercise with the BMW Touring 3 and 5 series.. The poor audi's just don't have the power so they where dismissed...

    The R36 represents the best value for money given what your choices are and against BMW once you adding the extra's you are looking northward of 100K.

    Plus the R36 will eat up most cars on the road..

    p.s. I have just had the MDI cable installed while it took them 2 trips to the work shop to get it fixed it was well worth the money....
    I agree, i don't know if the Dyna Audio is worth it also, I'm pretty happy with the standard audio system that comes with the 09 model


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    VASR36 and R36Driver888, I can only assume that you haven't heard the Dynaudio system in a passat? I have it, I compared it to the standard system, and whilst I agree it is a lot of money, it is totally worth it!! amazing sound that has the highest of highs and lowest of lows, and every amazing little bit in between!!! ( I sound like a salesman)

    It probably depends on what type of music you like listening to and at what sort of volumes whether you can appreciate the real difference.

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    2008 Audi Q7 4.2TDI, Radar Cruise, Lane Assist, Blind Spot Assist, Heated Seats Front & Rear, Alcantara Hood Lining, Wooden Gear knob, Nappa Leather, Plus all the usual V8TDI gear, like 760nm of Torque!

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