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Diesel_vert VW 504.00/507.00 engine oils 17-07-2010, 05:00 PM
Corey_R Cheers. Although I'd be... 17-07-2010, 05:18 PM
Tim Obviously specific oils are... 17-07-2010, 05:22 PM
Corey_R what's building up in the... 17-07-2010, 08:53 PM
Transporter Sludge from EGR and PCV gases... 17-07-2010, 09:32 PM
Maverick And here is a complete one. ... 18-07-2010, 01:12 AM
Diesel_vert SAPS Acronym for Sulphated... 19-07-2010, 11:36 AM
Diesel_vert Back in 2005, Agip introduced... 19-07-2010, 11:41 AM
Diesel_vert So why have we been told to... 19-07-2010, 11:48 AM
Maverick Some dealers only use... 20-07-2010, 09:23 AM
brad non long life is 15,000km/12... 20-07-2010, 04:04 PM
Christian Oil Filters 16-05-2011, 01:11 AM
dopey The oil must meet the vw... 16-05-2011, 02:23 AM
Transporter Stay away from the... 16-05-2011, 07:03 AM
george023 GTI MY10. What type of oil? 20-06-2012, 10:33 AM
millo Any VW dealer should do a... 20-06-2012, 12:49 PM
george023 That's interesting millo. I... 20-06-2012, 01:14 PM
warped_foobie You need to use a 504/507 VW... 20-06-2012, 01:36 PM
warped_foobie Forgot to add - someone... 20-06-2012, 01:39 PM
rossw You can get an approved oil... 20-06-2012, 01:41 PM
AdamD Merging with the mega thread... 20-06-2012, 06:46 PM
warped_foobie Thanks Adam! 20-06-2012, 08:17 PM
7R My check oil light came on... 20-06-2012, 10:24 PM
elephino Bill Buckle in Mona Vale... 22-06-2012, 12:53 PM
XTC838 Engine oil for Mk6 GTI 07-07-2012, 04:59 PM
Umai Naa!! Try Penrite Envrio+ 5W30. ... 07-07-2012, 05:11 PM
Transporter As Umai Naa!! says, it's an... 07-07-2012, 05:29 PM
XTC838 Thanks fellas! I'll have to... 07-07-2012, 05:41 PM
kaanage This thread has been... 18-11-2012, 08:12 AM
AnDyStYLe Hi All, Just a bit of a... 24-03-2014, 03:47 PM
Transporter IMO? Yes, it does matter... 24-03-2014, 05:56 PM
AnDyStYLe Edit: I found the source I... 25-03-2014, 10:34 AM
AnDyStYLe ^ Thanks for weighing in on... 24-03-2014, 06:43 PM
entice The immediate difference I... 24-03-2014, 06:50 PM
brad I've used Helix Ultra Extra. ... 25-03-2014, 11:09 AM
Transporter Even Penrite who claims that... 25-03-2014, 11:27 AM
AnDyStYLe Thanks for the input guys! ... 25-03-2014, 11:49 AM
brad Mobil1 504.00 isn't readily... 25-03-2014, 12:04 PM
AnDyStYLe Thanks brad, very helpful... 25-03-2014, 12:13 PM
Transporter Be careful when you buy the... 25-03-2014, 05:46 PM
brad Are you saying it is... 26-03-2014, 09:36 AM
Transporter On the first one you need to... 26-03-2014, 12:48 PM
Amalgam A genuine question about VW... 25-03-2014, 11:06 PM
joel0407 I think his name is Nick. I... 25-03-2014, 11:18 PM
joel0407 I'm with you there in that... 25-03-2014, 11:21 PM
Transporter You'd be taking the risk by... 26-03-2014, 07:22 AM
Diesel_vert I'm sure there are products... 27-03-2014, 06:17 AM
brad If there were thousands of... 26-03-2014, 09:56 AM
Transporter Like in here PD cam failure... 26-03-2014, 01:04 PM
brad That's tops. Reference to a... 26-03-2014, 01:18 PM
Transporter Ok, lets do it again then,... 26-03-2014, 01:31 PM
joel0407 I'm with you there in that... 25-03-2014, 11:46 PM
Amalgam Thanks for the replies. I... 26-03-2014, 12:40 PM
brad If it was me I'd find the... 26-03-2014, 01:05 PM
brad I doubt they even make M1 in... 26-03-2014, 12:58 PM
Transporter Mobil1 ESP5W30 officially... 26-03-2014, 01:18 PM
brad Thanks Interesting... 26-03-2014, 01:21 PM
brad transporter We both know the... 26-03-2014, 02:03 PM
Transporter I've never agreed with the VW... 26-03-2014, 02:25 PM
Diesel_vert Wow, old thread with a lot of... 27-03-2014, 06:11 AM
Diesel_vert Given the requirements of... 27-03-2014, 06:14 AM
Transporter Mate, I have no time to give... 27-03-2014, 07:29 AM
AnDyStYLe Just to touch on this one... 09-04-2014, 01:02 PM
Diesel_vert It indicates that it was made... 09-04-2014, 02:20 PM
Diesel_vert Not disastrous - just not... 27-03-2014, 06:16 AM
AnDyStYLe Thanks for further input... 27-03-2014, 08:25 AM
Amalgam Thanks Diesel_Vert for an... 27-03-2014, 06:22 PM
zei20t Thanks everyone for this... 28-03-2014, 01:18 PM
Transporter Stick with the genuine... 28-03-2014, 06:06 PM
zei20t yeah thanks I do buy genuine... 28-03-2014, 08:51 PM
brad The point is, you can buy... 29-03-2014, 10:21 AM
zei20t ahh I see what you mean. ... 29-03-2014, 01:51 PM
AnDyStYLe lol I'm loving the way the... 09-04-2014, 02:30 PM
Idle I've bought Mobil 1 from GL... 09-04-2014, 08:01 PM
AnDyStYLe Sorry all, just me again with... 11-04-2014, 10:10 AM
Diesel_vert ExxonMobil have found a way... 11-04-2014, 03:00 PM
Transporter You're definitely on the... 11-04-2014, 10:51 AM
drjekl What is the ideal scenario in... 11-01-2016, 09:09 PM
AnDyStYLe ^ Much appreciated... 12-04-2014, 11:31 AM
AnDyStYLe Just an FYI for all... I... 12-04-2014, 11:51 PM
Transporter Most likely not from Mobil... 13-04-2014, 07:02 AM
Idle At $30 a litre they are, of... 13-04-2014, 01:32 PM
AnDyStYLe ^ I was under the impression... 13-04-2014, 10:25 AM
brad ^^^^ +1 :facepalm: 13-04-2014, 10:37 AM
AnDyStYLe ^ Yeah for sure, that... 13-04-2014, 01:41 PM
brad The delivery costs might kill... 13-04-2014, 02:13 PM
AnDyStYLe There's a bloke in Vic... 13-04-2014, 02:38 PM
OilBurna Anyone using Valvoline... 13-04-2014, 09:47 PM
brad It was the workshop oil at... 14-04-2014, 10:36 AM
AnDyStYLe Only me checking in again...... 17-04-2014, 02:13 PM
Johnbu I needed a top up for my MkV... 18-04-2014, 01:59 PM
brad If you mean Nulon (not Nylon)... 18-04-2014, 05:24 PM
Johnbu Yeah Nulon, damn auto... 18-04-2014, 06:21 PM
brad Doesn't say "Äpproved". It... 18-04-2014, 07:29 PM
Diesel_vert brad is correct. To date,... 18-04-2014, 06:58 PM
Johnbu OK fair enough, a bit sneaky... 18-04-2014, 07:18 PM
Johnbu Yeah you're right..sneaky... 18-04-2014, 07:44 PM
zei20t I used to use nulon oils when... 19-04-2014, 12:11 PM
OilBurna How about Valvoline? ... 22-04-2014, 09:11 AM
Diesel_vert Lubricant manufacturers carry... 22-04-2014, 12:33 PM
gabbaking Planning of getting my car... 02-03-2016, 05:03 PM
Umai Naa!! TITAN GT1 LONGLIFE III SAE... 02-03-2016, 06:47 PM
Umai Naa!! TDIs need a 504/507-spec oil,... 02-03-2016, 06:45 PM
gabbaking Yeah he does but I was... 05-03-2016, 10:41 PM
Transporter I'd use LiquiMoly, before the... 07-03-2016, 01:52 PM
brad Why is that Miro? LiquiMoly... 07-03-2016, 02:25 PM
gabbaking Interesting comment. Love to... 09-03-2016, 02:37 PM
brad Fuchs is a good oil. Been... 06-03-2016, 06:57 AM
OilBurna Just had liqui moly put in by... 07-03-2016, 01:53 PM
gabbaking On a side note, I'm after... 09-03-2016, 02:40 PM
Umai Naa!! That's bloody trade price for... 12-03-2016, 10:16 AM
OilBurna Nice find might have to get... 12-03-2016, 10:24 AM
gabbaking Haha, I didn't even look... 12-03-2016, 12:48 PM
Umai Naa!! It's good stuff. Been using... 12-03-2016, 10:42 AM
OilBurna 4200 ok for Tdi PD? Sent... 12-03-2016, 10:42 AM
Umai Naa!! TDI is 4200 only. Petrol... 12-03-2016, 11:01 AM
donweather 4100 Liquid Moly appears to... 19-01-2017, 01:07 PM
gabbaking Guys, just a heads-up for... 14-03-2016, 03:00 PM
AutoSS Hi gabbaking, I run... 28-03-2016, 09:25 AM
Idle Also forward the email to... 28-03-2016, 10:53 AM
bbz1000 MK6 TSI Castrol Engine Oil 13-11-2016, 10:14 PM
Umai Naa!! Either is fine in a TSI. 13-11-2016, 10:27 PM
bbz1000 Though it seems the 504/507... 14-11-2016, 09:29 AM
CraigR I've just got my car back... 14-11-2016, 09:24 AM
CraigR Anyone have any thought... 15-11-2016, 07:13 AM
nat225 it does not look good to me... 15-11-2016, 01:27 PM
CraigR These were my immediate... 15-11-2016, 02:12 PM
CraigR Going back and replacing the... 16-11-2016, 01:28 PM
Umai Naa!! VW spec them with 504/507,... 14-11-2016, 07:22 PM
nat225 all this vw504.00 is quite... 14-11-2016, 08:46 PM
Umai Naa!! Different emissions systems,... 14-11-2016, 08:57 PM
Throbbinhood A little confused after... 15-11-2016, 03:09 PM
Guest001 Penrite Enviro + 5w30 when... 16-11-2016, 04:47 PM
Umai Naa!! Any 5W30, as long as it has... 16-11-2016, 07:52 PM
Throbbinhood Legends, thanks guys. 17-11-2016, 10:20 AM
blaast Supercheap have 5L Castrol... 13-01-2017, 04:27 PM
Guest001 That is the good approved... 13-01-2017, 04:36 PM
Umai Naa!! The oil is fine, but the... 13-01-2017, 06:59 PM
blaast Thanks for that advice. I... 15-01-2017, 12:33 AM
minke I was using the 5w-30 Castrol... 13-01-2017, 07:53 PM
Transporter It varies from model to... 13-01-2017, 08:11 PM
Guest001 You can run 502/505 in a... 19-01-2017, 01:29 PM
Umai Naa!! I don't have 100%... 19-01-2017, 01:37 PM
Johnbu Why you need to use 504/507... 20-01-2017, 08:19 PM
Guest001 As we have 12 month or... 20-01-2017, 08:31 PM
Umai Naa!! Correct. 504/507 is meant to... 20-01-2017, 08:31 PM
Johnbu I'd rather use 502/505 and... 20-01-2017, 08:40 PM
Umai Naa!! In a petrol engine, that's... 20-01-2017, 08:58 PM
Audi Junkie The problem in the USA with... 26-08-2017, 01:21 AM
joel0407 It that graph from Bob the... 26-08-2017, 12:47 PM
blaast Supercheap have Nulon Full... 13-10-2017, 06:17 PM
rave75 I topped up 1L of 502/505... 14-05-2019, 06:33 PM
brad It's fine. That's the... 14-05-2019, 09:07 PM
ilium007 Following on from a post I... 30-08-2019, 04:41 PM
ilium007 I've just gone on to Penrites... 30-08-2019, 05:38 PM
Transporter If you have to use 506.01 oil... 31-08-2019, 12:34 AM
gregozedobe In the past there has been... 07-10-2019, 01:10 PM
Transporter These wear prone engine last... 07-10-2019, 06:56 PM
bradsm87 My 2017 GTI's owner's manual... 22-09-2020, 12:55 PM
brad I'd assume because 504/507 in... 22-09-2020, 05:07 PM
bradsm87 No it's to do with low SAPS... 22-09-2020, 05:33 PM
brad Fair enough but you are... 22-09-2020, 05:48 PM
bradsm87 I'm not questioning VW's oil... 22-09-2020, 05:53 PM
brad Because that's what the... 22-09-2020, 06:07 PM
bradsm87 This is my MY18 GTI manual... 22-09-2020, 06:18 PM
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Maverick Since when? Everything points... 17-05-2011, 01:38 AM
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  1. 17-07-2010, 05:00 PM #1
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    VW 504.00/507.00 engine oils

    For vehicles with direct-injection (DI) engines on fixed service intervals without a DPF, products that are approved to the following Volkswagen engine lubricant specifications may be used:

    VW 502.00/505.00 or VW 502.00/505.00/505.01 or VW 504.00/507.00

    In DI engines, fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber, bypassing the inlet valves and preventing it from cleaning the surface. A 2006 Lubrizol presentation, titled Lower SAPS engine oils, claimed that using a low-SAPS or mid-SAPS engine oil may reduce the formation rate of inlet valve deposits when compared to a full-SAPS engine oil.







    For the Australian market, possible sources of approved 504.00/507.00 lubricants are listed below.

    Please note that some products may not be:
    - available in retail stores
    - imported by the distributor
    - purchased in small quantities

    Always check the label before purchasing.



    Amsoil European Car Formula 5W-30
    Information / Distributor

    Audi LongLife III 5W-30
    Part number:
    G AU 052 195 M2 (1L)
    Refer to dealer

    Bizol Technology 507 5W-30
    Information / Distributor

    Caltex Havoline Ultra V 5W-30
    Information / Distributor

    Castrol Edge LL 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $65.00/5L Cargear
    $74.95/5L Spares Box
    $74.99/5L Autobarn
    $76.95/5L Supercheap Auto

    Castrol Edge Professional Longlife III 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    Refer to dealer

    Elf Evolution Full-Tech LLX 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $84.99/5L Autobarn*

    Eni i-Sint 5W-30
    Information / Distributor (QLD)

    Fuchs Titan GT1 PRO C-3 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $63.00/5L RedPoint
    $69.95/5L Burson
    $74.99/5L CDA Eastland
    $76.89/5L MaxiParts

    Global Racing Oil GXS 5W-30
    Information / Distributor

    Liqui-Moly Top Tec 4200 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $89.25/5L Car Parts Australia
    $104.99/5L Autobarn
    $105.00/5L Aftermarket 4X4
    $106.95/5L Spares Box
    $106.95/5L TheCarCareStore

    Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $72.50/5L GL Lubricants (eBay)
    $75.00/5L PerformanceLUB (eBay)

    Mobil Super 3000 Formula V 5W-30
    Information / Distributor

    Morris MultiLife V-Max 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $90.20/5L Lubricon

    Motul 8100 X-clean+ 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $88.00/5L Autosphere
    $108.95/5L Spares Box

    Motul Specific 504 00-507 00 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $88.00/5L Autosphere
    $109.99/5L Autobarn*
    $110.00/5L Clickable Automotive
    $118.95/5L Spares Box

    Nulon European Engine Oil 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $58.00/5L Cargear
    $69.95/5L Spares Box
    $69.95/5L Supercheap Auto
    $74.99/5L Autobarn

    OWS GrandSport DPF 5W-30
    Information / Distributor

    Panolin Avanis SV-X 5W-30
    Information / Distributor

    Penrite Enviro+ 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $79.99/5L Autobarn
    $79.99/5L Supercheap Auto

    Pentosin Pento Super Performance III 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $107.75/5L Liquid Intelligence (eBay)

    Petronas Syntium 5000 AV 5W-30
    Information / Distributor

    Q8 Formula VX Long Life 5W-30
    Information / Distributor

    Repsol Elite Long Life 50700/50400 5W-30
    Information / Distributor

    Rock Oil Synthesis Xtra-Life 5W-30
    Information / Distributor

    Shell Helix Ultra ECT C2/C3 0W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $75.00/5L GL Lubricants (eBay)

    Total Quartz Ineo Long Life 5W-30
    Information / Distributor

    Valvoline SynPower XL-III 5W-30
    Information / Distributor
    $69.99/5L Autobarn

    Volkswagen LongLife III 5W-30
    Part number:
    G VW 052 195 M2 (1L)
    Refer to dealer

    Volkswagen Original Teile® LongLife III 5W-30
    Part numbers:
    G 052 195 M2 (1L)
    G 052 195 M4 (5L)
    G 052 195 M6 (60L)
    Refer to dealer

    *At selected stores only



    Source: VW approved lubricants list

    Last edited by Diesel_vert; 29-08-2017 at 12:17 AM.
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