DSG in the GOLF R

[REXman]

Hey guys, If anyone knows, or owns a GOLF R, can they tell me if its tru that the gearbox automatically upshifts gears now when it hits redline/fuelcut out?

I know the GTI stays in gear which is great I think. I hope the R does the same, or at least can be changed.

I am referring to sports mode as I dont mind what It does in the other modes.

Thaniks

[galtaforce]

I know the GTI stays in gear which is great I think. I hope the R does the same, or at least can be changed.

The GTI will upshift at maximum engine speed in manual mode.

[REXman]

The GTI will upshift at maximum engine speed in manual mode.

Oh ok, I thought it held gear from my test drive.. obviously not then.

Anyway to change this?

[elisiX]

In my GTI while using S the needle goes well into the red before it upshifts.

[Corey_R]

Yeah - I'm not sure you'd want to change this to be honest. As elisiX said, it will go into the redline before it changes.
I know that some of the tuners can raise the shifting point, but this is only performed in response to upgrading of engine internals, as well as the usual Stage III upgrades (turbo, intercooler, intake, pipes, headers, exhaust, etc)

[REXman]

Yeah - I'm not sure you'd want to change this to be honest. As elisiX said, it will go into the redline before it changes.
I know that some of the tuners can raise the shifting point, but this is only performed in response to upgrading of engine internals, as well as the usual Stage III upgrades (turbo, intercooler, intake, pipes, headers, exhaust, etc)

I dont know how true this is, but apparently the R has some upgraded internals already which might help (im thinking like when the STI in the 2.0L motor had forged pistons and could handle a lot more than the WRX).

But yeah its not so much the rev limit i want increased (but damn Ill take it!), its the fact that it automatically upshifts losing that manual feel that I want to correct

[G-rig]

Changing gears in the red isn't really the fastest point to shift anyway is it?

Sports mode seems to hold it a bit too long up top IMO.

[fung9420]

it does up shifting. Just went for test drive the R yesterday...very nice car and well priced.

But i'd say it wont really be an iusse to stay in same gear as long as not rev over the Redline.
that's out of the max torque zone anyway. just take some time to learn the throttle. u will be fine.

[domlebo70]

Changing gears in the red isn't really the fastest point to shift anyway is it?

Sports mode seems to hold it a bit too long up top IMO.

Often it is. Otherwise the revs drop out of the power curve when you change up.

Not saying this is how it is on a GTI, but that whole "don't shift at the redline" is a bit of a myth perpetrated by a select few who's car's tail off massively at the redline.

[Corey_R]

This is obviously care of APR Australia.
This shows the 200kw (non-Australian) version of the Golf R, compared to the APR Stage I ECU on the same Golf R. Figures are at the flywheel and using what equates to 98 Octane fuel.

You can see that the power isn't really dropping off yet at 6500rpm. However, it's not a large peak there either. Torque has already dropped off significantly though. So you probably would be better off changing up rather than holding the revs at the redline anyway.