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Thread: Petition to VWA to enable TMC in next map update for RNS510/Columbus

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    I did some more sleuthing into hacking TMC into the RNS510 by looking at the TMC enabled euro maps. Sadly even though the key is easy to decrypt with linux and a card with fm radio, it isn't just a matter of entering it into the maps disc in a config file. The VW maps have a whole look up database to assign the data sent over TMC to the actual roads on the maps.

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    Yep, unless someone can get their hands on that 7703 CD as has been mentioned...TOC indicated that TMC was enabled. Which presumably meant they had a temp license from Intelematics for testing....
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    Quote Originally Posted by readerr0r View Post
    I did some more sleuthing into hacking TMC into the RNS510 by looking at the TMC enabled euro maps. Sadly even though the key is easy to decrypt with linux and a card with fm radio, it isn't just a matter of entering it into the maps disc in a config file. The VW maps have a whole look up database to assign the data sent over TMC to the actual roads on the maps.

    Very much in VWs hands to make SUNA work
    Do we know if the SUNA TMC database is available anywhere? I mean, with the right manpower, it should be possible to map it against VW maps. I doubt the location mapping would change much between versions - maybe additions/removals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elektron View Post
    Do we know if the SUNA TMC database is available anywhere? I mean, with the right manpower, it should be possible to map it against VW maps. I doubt the location mapping would change much between versions - maybe additions/removals.
    That's not how it works unfortunately. It's not as simple a matter as comparing two databases. Intelematics send out alerts over the FM radio band, in an encrypted format, to notify its network users of known traffic incidents. This data is either just displayed on the head unit as an alert, or used by the routing algorithm to re-route an existing trip if it is determined that a faster route now exists due to delays.

    So having a valid decryption key on a TMC compatible GPS system is the only way to make use of the data. Getting access to Intelematics database offline would be stale data and therefor useless.

    Or just use Google maps with traffic overlay on your phone of course...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamold View Post
    Yep, unless someone can get their hands on that 7703 CD as has been mentioned...TOC indicated that TMC was enabled. Which presumably meant they had a temp license from Intelematics for testing....
    It'll need to have a "TELEMAT" (or something like that, i dont have the euro disc on hand) folder on the disc too
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    Re: Petition to VWA to enable TMC in next map update for RNS510/Columbus

    Quote Originally Posted by mattfrayage View Post
    so is the tmc similar to the sirius travel-link and traffic option given here in the united states
    if you guys want i can show ya what travel-link and traffic does... hold that thought.... time to make a video
    Yes it's similar but broadcast over fm rather than sat radio. It's encrypted so needs to have a key bought by Vw from the provider of the traffic info.
    Vw Australia unfortunately have a reputation for not listening to it's customers. So this feature has never been available here unlike in Europe.

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