Additional Tax Contribution: Mobile Speed Cameras

[zjm]

where are the cameras that pick up right lane hogs ,people that dont indicate ,give way or generally follow the basic road rules
In NSW you have to get your car inspected annually after it is 2 years old yet they dont check if you can drive until your a pensioner
australian drivers are pretty ordinary

[Jace]

australian people are pretty ordinary

Fixed that for you.

[brad]

In NSW you have to get your car inspected annually after it is 2 years old

5 years old now. By then my car will be at 125,000km. Most sales reps will be at 250,000-500,000km (if they have kept it that long)

[jettapilot]

Just got off my P's, I'm stoked that I have 12 points to spend!

And you intend to spend them?
That's great. Do it quickly so the rest of us don't have to share the road with your attitude.

[cme2c]

Some points. (oh, and I have all 12 of mine, last speeding offence 2006, FYI)

Yes, the faster you go, the worse an accident will be. What causes damage is kinetic energy. Kinetic energy is mass times velocity squared , divided by 2. So if a 64t B Double is safe at 100km/h, my 1t Peugeot is safe at 800km/h.( a BIG bottle of nitrous...). Yes I know that's ludicrous (reductio ad absurdum ) BUT it is still ludicrous to have the same limit for all vehicles.

Perhaps we could look at stopping distances? NRMA did a test, where a 2004 Commodore stopped in 16.8m from 60 km/h A 1979 Kingswood took 20.8m and a 1984 Land Cruiser in 24.4m! (having driven all 3, I believe it!!). All have the same limit (except the landy would not get to 110)

Ok, another argument.The more time you spend on the roads, the greater the chance of an accident. Lets say you are driving from the intersection of the Forbes and Grenfell roads to Broken hill, about 700 km. If you average 100 km/h you are on the road for 7 hours. If you average 140 km/h, you take 5 hours. That's 2 hours LESS you are in the firing line.

The other side of the argument is the implied assertion that if you drive under the limit you are perfectly safe. Just look at shows like Jackass to see how much damage you can do to yourself at speeds well below 60 km/h.

The other morning I was driving my son to the station, early. Little traffic. I was on a connecting rd, 2 lanes but occasional parked cars so I was in the right lane at about the limit (60 km/h). I see headlights approaching fast in my mirror, in the left lane, and lifted off to let a WRX doing over 100 km/h to get easily between me and a parked car. Now if i'd been inattentive, or stupid, or looking at my speedo to see I wasn't doing 64 km/hr, an accident would have been more likely. What good do speed cameras do in this circumstance?

So, what do I do? I usually try to obey speed limits, no matter how stupid. Of course if there is a little 80 sign in the breakdown lane on the freeway, that you can't see in lane 2 or 3 it's a bit difficult. Do you slow down and risk being hit from behind? dunno. oh and if you have a smartphone with GPS, check out trapster.com.

[Preen59]

Pretty valid point, dude.

[EUS GTIMK5]

This whole speeding revenue raising is really starting to piss me off.
It seems that the Gov is fixated on only one remedy, speed cameras. They have absolutely no idea of any other preventative measures. If you can show me a person who has never exceeded the speed limit I'll show you someone who walks everywhere. Everyone who has driven a car has exceeded the speed limit at some point, either unintentionally or on purpose.
There are a lot more things that could be done but that would involve spending money rather than raising it from poor car drivers.

[bigfoot]

digging up an old thread...

Obviously the standard of driving skills in Australia is relatively poor to many European countries and a higher standard of driver education is needed. Following the methods of Germany, Sweden and Finland would be the best place to start. Yes in Germany they have no limit on the Autobahn, but thats because they are taught how to drive properly. But the majority of the German Roads do have speed limits and surely the majority of the drivers there stick to them.

apparently driver training is dangerous

what has this guy been smoking???

Defensive driving risks steering the young into danger

A "LEADING" road safety researcher has declared defensive driver training for young motorists a dangerous and outdated practice, as statistics show younger drivers are over-represented in fatal accidents

hmmm compulsory training on closed roads versus 100 hours with your mum...i know which i'd rather!

[team_v]

They should include driver training as part of the year 12 curriculum in every school.

[GoLfMan]

digging up an old thread...



apparently driver training is dangerous

what has this guy been smoking???

Defensive driving risks steering the young into danger

A "LEADING" road safety researcher has declared defensive driver training for young motorists a dangerous and outdated practice, as statistics show younger drivers are over-represented in fatal accidents

hmmm compulsory training on closed roads versus 100 hours with your mum...i know which i'd rather!

its truly unbelievable what some of these 'experts' say.

I don't actually know why Australia just can't look at somewhere where the road laws are more effective and just learn off them.

I can't EVER see why defensive driver training would be dangerous, thats truly ludicrous.