EGR should we all be more concerned

**Greg Roles** · 19-01-2011, 06:01 AM

Only the typical style that vents to atmosphere. A properly installed provent is not illegal, and it could be easily argued that it makes your car even greener.

**benough** · 28-01-2011, 01:35 PM

Hey everyone.

I just had my 90,000 service and I got my mechanic to do have a look at the EGR and EGR pipe. These are the photos he sent me.

This is the EGR valve (sorry for lack of focus) and I thought it would have been thicker.

This is the EGR pipe. Man that **** is thick!

I have the extended warranty so for now I think I will wait for it to fail and get VW to replace the parts

**gldgti** · 28-01-2011, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by benough

I have the extended warranty so for now I think I will wait for it to fail and get VW to replace the parts

Pardon me, but isn't that just a bit... If you know about this now, why not do something about it proactively....

If everyone that knew about some impending problem chose to ignore it because they knew that someone else would eventually be forced to deal with it... well. Is that really the country I live in?

**Greg Roles** · 29-01-2011, 07:25 AM

Good luck maintaining your power and economy via ignoring it, but hey, your car.

**benough** · 29-01-2011, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Greg Roles

Good luck maintaining your power and economy via ignoring it, but hey, your car.

I hope you haven't misunderstood me Greg. I haven't been ignoring it. I've tried to be proactive at every service, asking for a clean, using the wynn's spray cleaners etc.

Also a proper picture of the EGR problem has only been made aware to me for under a week. It's beginning to throw engine error codes so it might fail quite soon. Also I'm thinking I might go halves with them in terms of cleaning it up.

Furthermore I calculate my l/km every week and over the life of the car it's barely changed nor does the car feel slower.

**Greg Roles** · 29-01-2011, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by benough

I hope you haven't misunderstood me Greg. I haven't been ignoring it. I've tried to be proactive at every service, asking for a clean, using the wynn's spray cleaners etc.

Also a proper picture of the EGR problem has only been made aware to me for under a week. It's beginning to throw engine error codes so it might fail quite soon. Also I'm thinking I might go halves with them in terms of cleaning it up.

Furthermore I calculate my l/km every week and over the life of the car it's barely changed nor does the car feel slower.

No it's cool mate, I'm just wary of anyone discrediting a very real and possibly expensive problem some second owner could inherit. The GT would have to be a desirable car for a P plater for instance, and imagine getting one and the EGR valve or flap goes at over a grand each or the DPF dies, and we know the nightmare cost there!

**benough** · 29-01-2011, 01:30 PM

Well I have been proactive every service, even with the dealer and I've never been given a proper answer.

Also I know that b/c VW don't put it as part of scheduled maintenance, they won't do anything proper about it, just band aid solutions.

I could have it cleaned out, for like $3-400 but I have essentially paid for this in extended warranty, so why should I pay twice?

Trust me, I am not that lazy ar$ehole who thinks the world owes me a favour. I see it more as VW's responsibility than mine, that's all.

Originally Posted by gldgti

Pardon me, but isn't that just a bit... If you know about this now, why not do something about it proactively....

If everyone that knew about some impending problem chose to ignore it because they knew that someone else would eventually be forced to deal with it... well. Is that really the country I live in?

**Transporter** · 29-01-2011, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by benough

Well I have been proactive every service, even with the dealer and I've never been given a proper answer.

Also I know that b/c VW don't put it as part of scheduled maintenance, they won't do anything proper about it, just band aid solutions.

I could have it cleaned out, for like $3-400 but I have essentially paid for this in extended warranty, so why should I pay twice?

Trust me, I am not that lazy ar$ehole who thinks the world owes me a favour. I see it more as VW's responsibility than mine, that's all.

What gldgti meant was that, if you as well as other car owners would push the dealer to do something about it, the things would have to change or improve. Meaning that they would have to come with improved air/oil separator instead of people fitting the Provent200 and similar.

**Greg Roles** · 29-01-2011, 04:49 PM

To be fair Miro the GT has a much improved system over the 103 in the tappet cover and the MK6 I would assume is better again. Yeah it's not ideal, and to be honest it amazes me that such a good built in stock system still lets a lot by, and it probably wouldn't rear its ugly head below the typical kms done in the typical 3 year warranty period. There are evil sales people besides engineers at VW you know!