Diesel Prices today wtf??? 30c dearer than regular ULP

**mollins** · 26-05-2008, 05:15 PM

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...26/2255955.htm

**gareth_oau** · 26-05-2008, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by orsegtsport

The West Australian newspaper claimed earlier this week ...

Orsegtsport, you dont actually believe what you read in The West? - The only part I take seriously is Calvin and Hobbes

**orsegtsport** · 26-05-2008, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by gareth_oau

Orsegtsport, you dont actually believe what you read in The West? - The only part I take seriously is Calvin and Hobbes

Nah, reading it normally just makes me angry with it's glaringly obvious right-wing bias in most of the opinion pieces. I only buy it on Monday and Thursday for the Super Rugby section.... Although they are giving away a shiny new GTI this week. Hmmm....... I might have to buy every issue this week and enter the draw

**STV4SYT** · 27-05-2008, 01:55 PM

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23763042-2,00.html

Excellent the Truckies are now involved.

TRUCK drivers have joined the protest against Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's petrol policy as he also deals with dissent from within the Labor Party.

Dozens of truckies have sounded their horns outside Mr Rudd's office in protest over rising petrol prices.

Transport owner-operators have driven through Brisbane's city centre today to raise awareness of the impacts of the rising cost of petrol.

When they reached Waterfront Place - which houses the office of Mr Rudd and other cabinet ministers - they honked their horns.

Meanwhile, Resources Minister Martin Ferguson has said he strongly supports the Rudd Government's planned national FuelWatch scheme despite opposing it in Cabinet as an anti-competitive waste of money.

**thefullback** · 27-05-2008, 04:24 PM

please note i am not defending oil companies

but here are some interesting facts
Shell Clyde refinery has been in a maintenance shutdown since early Jan (i am working on the shutdown). In this time they have not produced a drop, I am told they usually supply 40% of NSW requirements. All their fuel is currently imported finished product from Asia. They are spending 300 million + on plant up grades etc. Also found out LSD plant will be built in November for operation by Jan 09.
Currently best diesel they can produce is 50 ppm.
None of this seems to get reported and may account for current high price of diesel.

In my view the cost to produce a barrel of oil has changed little, so maybe we should be after the speculators and/or the system that allows these price rises to occur.

Logzy · 27-05-2008, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by thefullback

please note i am not defending oil companies

but here are some interesting facts
Shell Clyde refinery has been in a maintenance shutdown since early Jan (i am working on the shutdown). In this time they have not produced a drop, I am told they usually supply 40% of NSW requirements. All their fuel is currently imported finished product from Asia. They are spending 300 million + on plant up grades etc. Also found out LSD plant will be built in November for operation by Jan 09.
Currently best diesel they can produce is 50 ppm.
None of this seems to get reported and may account for current high price of diesel.

In my view the cost to produce a barrel of oil has changed little, so maybe we should be after the speculators and/or the system that allows these price rises to occur.

Ok, So lets say thats shells excuse for high prices.
What about BP and Mobil.???

Also shell are not doing the upgrade for ULSD 10ppm out of the goodness of their hearts or anything. Its because of new legislation coming in regarding sulphur content.
Really whats $300million to shell anyway. What were their profits last year.?
Proportionally i probably spend more of my income modding my car.

**cetane** · 27-05-2008, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by thefullback

so maybe we should be after the speculators and/or the system that allows these price rises to occur.

Ahhh.... Now we get to the nub of it!

**OvaltoJetta** · 27-05-2008, 06:30 PM

An interseting letter to the editor on the weekend suggested that:

"If we as a society, suddenly stopped buying brand X indefinately, then brand X executives would have to reconsider their prices because no one was purchasing any fuel from them. Then, until such time they reduced their prices, they would slowly go broke. Once brand X reduced it's prices to attract customers back we would all then use brand X therefore forcing brands Y and Z to also reduce their prices to be competative".

Who knows. It would take some co-ordinating and promoting on a national basis. Any volunteers?

$185.9 for diesel at my local BP in Perth today & tomorrow