ESP on TDI ?

[Flaps]

AFAIK the i30 won a few best small car awards. Why would you try to keep her out of it?

i30>Polo TDI

[VW GTI]

Flaps, they don't take everything into consideration... build quality, performance etc don't play much part compared to fuel consumption and safety. I think you'd have to get the results of all the tests that are relative to what you're after and make your own decision. Being a VW over a Hyundai isn't part of the awards criteria, but you sure know they will be better quality.

Also, the Polo TDi has won many awards as well, and it'll be well made and perform better than most other diesels in the class.

Sharkie: I thought the 2 safety packs was an option on all Polos... the same 2 that are standard on the GTI.

[Sharkie]

I thought the 2 safety packs was an option on all Polos... the same 2 that are standard on the GTI.

Safety packs are an option but they exclude ESP. I checked again today.

[RhysQ]

Hyundai make a good air conditioning system and......well......thats about it.

take the 'sporty tiburon' for example. they bought that out to win some points in the auto market. ask yourself this, how many tiburons do you see on the road...they are as rare as a slu**y nun. reason being because they are POS's. same goes for the Santa Fe and Sonata....not too many around at all. oh wait, i've seen a few on the back of tow trucks.

as for the ESP, as much as it is a great feature on a sales base, who has EVER needed theirs and thought to themselves "thank god i have ESP". to tell you the truth, the first thing i do when i get in my car is turn it off....before putting my seatbelt on.

the reason its not in the TDi is cos it doesn't need it. the GTI however, it's the top of the line Polo so why not put it in.

[phaeton]

Will be out for MY09 so expect it later in the year

[VW GTI]

as for the ESP, as much as it is a great feature on a sales base, who has EVER needed theirs and thought to themselves "thank god i have ESP". to tell you the truth, the first thing i do when i get in my car is turn it off....before putting my seatbelt on.

ESP is insanely good. You don't notice what it does until you drive on diesel with it off and then turn it on. You can basically drive normally with it on and when it's off you sway side to side like an endless scandanavian flick.

I personally wish ESP and traction control were separate things, don't know if it's possible, but I'd like to be able to turn traction control off so I control the accelerator and ESP can do all the other stuff (whatever that may be).

[GTIJNR]

I know hundai is not the best car in the world but by all mean their diesel i30 is quite a car. yup u get variable turbo vane (some thing similar to 911 turbo)from a korean car and not vw... also its 1.6 and does more power than the 1.9 polo... not the same build quality but vw is not the best in reliability either... thats just me...

[Preen59]

I know hundai is not the best car in the world but by all mean their diesel i30 is quite a car. yup u get variable turbo vane (some thing similar to 911 turbo)from a korean car and not vw... also its 1.6 and does more power than the 1.9 polo... not the same build quality but vw is not the best in reliability either... thats just me...

Mate, the 1.9 TDI has a variable vane turbo.

And the 1.6 has to work a hell of a lot harder than the 1.9 to produce that power.

PLUS the fact that the hyundai will be a shagged, rattly piece of sh*t in 3 years, and the polo will be just getting going.

But by all means, go buy a hyundai. Its your money.

[Sharkie]

AFAIK the i30 won a few best small car awards. Why would you try to keep her out of it?

Mmmmm .... its got to do with the 1 being a VW and the other a Hyundai.

Those awards don't take into consideration brand name and product quality as much.

Don't get me wrong, as a consumer goods appliance a Hyundai is OK but not at VW quality.

We had a Getz for a while, broke down 3 times and had to be towed to Hyundai for warranty repairs ..... worst of all it was stock standard with absolutely no tampering at all.

[Matt P]

Mmmmm .... its got to do with the 1 being a VW and the other a

ahh so its brand snobbery?

the i30 is a LOT of car for the money. If i was after something rather family oriented and had $25k, i'd probably be first on my list.