View Poll Results: What fuel do you use?

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  • Shell V-Power

    10 19.61%
  • BP Ultimate

    34 66.67%
  • Caltex Vortex

    6 11.76%
  • Other High Octane

    1 1.96%
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Thread: 98 Octane Fuels - what do you use?

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  1. #1
    The only way your car would gain performance from V-Power Raceing (100 Ron) is if your cars ECU is tuned for that fuel.

    Otherwise it wont give you any gains.

    In my Evo VI i did notice an improvement running the 100 octane fuel, buts thats because the car had a aftermarket Japanese ECU that was obviously intended for even higher octane Japanese fuel.

    I have read previously that Shell use a lot more additives for their fuel than other brands.

    A friend with a tuned Mazda GTX with an Apexi SAFC used to notice more knocks and slight detonation running Shell 98 as opposed to Mobil and Caltex.
    MATT / SYDNEY
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    300BHP 323 GTR / 550BHP R32 GTR / 350BHP EVO VI

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazgtr View Post
    The only way your car would gain performance from V-Power Raceing (100 Ron) is if your cars ECU is tuned for that fuel.

    Otherwise it wont give you any gains.

    In my Evo VI i did notice an improvement running the 100 octane fuel, buts thats because the car had a aftermarket Japanese ECU that was obviously intended for even higher octane Japanese fuel.

    I have read previously that Shell use a lot more additives for their fuel than other brands.

    A friend with a tuned Mazda GTX with an Apexi SAFC used to notice more knocks and slight detonation running Shell 98 as opposed to Mobil and Caltex.
    I beleive with the APR/GIAC etc tune there is still a little bit of leeway and the ECU will advance the timing further to suit 100ron?

    Might also find a touch of knock sensor retardation when running a 98 tune on 98 fuel, 100ron will sort that out too

  3. #3
    I know Timbo with his Revo tune, has several maps on his ECU.
    One of which is a 100 Ron only tune.

    I would still think the car would need to be re-tuned over the base 98tune to gain any real bennefits.

    I know the ECU will retard performance when a lower octane fuel is used, but as to improveing performance by going from 98 to 100 i dont think so.

    Must allready have a 100Ron tune map within your setup IMO.
    MATT / SYDNEY
    POLO GTI / REVO TUNE / INTAKE / EXHAUST

    300BHP 323 GTR / 550BHP R32 GTR / 350BHP EVO VI

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    Guy from APR told me long ago that you would see about 2kw & 2-3NM extra with V-Power Racing with the std flash, no extra tuning required.

    In Brisbane near me its normally $145/l (and the price doesn't fluctuate) so when 98 V-Power is dear I use the Racing. When 98 is $130/l I use that.

    I felt a bit extra power, but that might have been me just wishing it to be the case ...

    I also believe the contents to "go off" due to the ethanol blend because if I don't use it all quickly it seems to noticably drop in power....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkie View Post
    In Brisbane near me its normally $145/l (and the price doesn't fluctuate) so when 98 V-Power is dear I use the Racing. When 98 is $130/l I use that.
    I was about to ask where in Brisbane sells V-Power Racing, then I saw your $145/L :p

    Seriously though, where is it in Brisbane?

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    Shell at Bulimba (cnr oxford st and hawthorne rd) and Shell Milton on Coro Drive.

    Price is usually $1.45 however I've noticed with prices these days it does go up from that.

    Who would have thought 2 years ago we'd shrug our shoulders at $1.50 a litre for fuel? Madness.

    I sometimes use V Power Racing and believe you can definately feel the diff. it feels more than 2%.

    It is not economical though - I did a couple of economy runs with it and it is not as economical as 98 fuel - propensity to squeeze the go pedal aside.

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    I filled up tonight with V-Power at $1.48. If I'm ever out Coro drive way I'm gonna get some of the racing. See what it's like.

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