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    G Rig - ACC in sport mode tightens up the steering as well as the suspension. It's a clear difference in my car. How it compares to GTIs without ACC I can't say.

    As other people have said, you can have your cake and eat it too. Silky steering and no shuddering bumps when you are in comfort mode, solid handling in sport when you're on good quality winding roads.
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    Having test driven the Mark 6 GTI many times over and having one for half a day, I'd be more inclined to use the 'Sport' button to sharpen the steering and ride/handling. Comfort may be in order for the outback drives, hard to say until my MK6 GTI arrives with 18" wheels. Early criticisims of the Mark 6 GTI was that the steering felt a bit wooden. It's common issue with many makers going from hydraulic to electric steering systems. Drive and steer by wire ... like a dodgem car. Can anyone confirm if ACC sharpens up the throttle senstivity?

    On a slight tangent:

    Tint - aftermarket tint does offer UV blockage, unlike the factory tint of the rear 3 windows. Not a big concern for me as my ride is not parked outside all day every day. The Street Wise tint going on the two front windows of my ride will offer UV protection, which is where I require it most ... for the driver and front passenger. Only two windows that could peel down the track, rather than 5 windows.

    Park Assist - Park assist shows a silhouette on the radio display. With the optional rear camera, you have a choice of seeing the park assist silhouette or the rear camera view ... not both. This was a deciding factor in not choosing the RVC with park assist as the $500 when towards Bi-Xenons.

    DSG - the DSG in the Mark 6 offers creep function like a std auto gearbox. The vehicle moves forward when the brake is let off, rather than rolling rearwards on hills as was the case in the previous MK5 GTI. It also feels a little less jerky at car park speeds than the previous MK5 GTI.

    Tartan Seats - In respect to dissing the leather option, I'd have to say that the Tartan seats in the Mark 6 GTI look they too have been a victim of cost cutting over the fantastic cloth seats in the previous Mark 5 GTI. Although the Tartan in the Mark 6 look like they could cope better with a food/drink spill.

    Value for Money - When purchasing this GTI and my last MK5 GTI, I was aiming for @ 45K driveway. Always end up spec'ing another 3-5K worth of options ... just can't help myself. Resale on options is a terrible investment; but it does make it easier to sell or trade in a few years time (so does not having any aftermarket ECU retune). All in all, most options are just are marginal improvement on an already fine vehicle. This time around I went for the driver focussed options, rather than the luxury options.

    Cheers.
    WJ
    Last edited by WhiteJames; 06-03-2010 at 06:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteJames View Post
    Tint - aftermarket tint does offer UV blockage, unlike the factory tint of the rear 3 windows. Not a big concern for me as my ride is not parked outside all day every day. The Street Wise tint going on the two front windows of my ride will offer UV protection, which is where I require it most ... for the driver and front passenger. Only two windows that could peel down the track, rather than 5 windows.
    Modern tints, installed properly, don't tint. Not even after 10 years of use. They don't offer lifetime warranties on them without having confidence in the product. Also - the thing about that VW factory tint not having UV blockage... if it doesnt have that, then how good would the rest of its solar properties be? Like, the TSER (Total Solar Energy Rejection)? Without a high TSER rating you'll use more fuel during the summer days by requiring more Aircon to keep the car cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coreying View Post
    Modern tints, installed properly, don't tint. Not even after 10 years of use. They don't offer lifetime warranties on them without having confidence in the product. Also - the thing about that VW factory tint not having UV blockage... if it doesnt have that, then how good would the rest of its solar properties be? Like, the TSER (Total Solar Energy Rejection)? Without a high TSER rating you'll use more fuel during the summer days by requiring more Aircon to keep the car cool.
    They don't tint coreying? Damn!

    But yes modern tints are great, unless you get some cheap film and it's installed by someone with no experience it should outlast the car. I've seen some shockers around recently on fairly new cars like the magna with the whole rear window with massive bubbles to the point I couldn't see through it during the day! I'd guess they tried to do it using a cheap DIY kit and now are too lazy to pull it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick View Post
    They don't tint coreying? Damn!
    lol - sorry - it's been a BIG week! But yeah, I mean they don't peel. Thank you for being intelligent enough to figure that out

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    This is the official NSW line on window tinting directly from the NSW RTA website:

    http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati...vsi03_rev3.pdf

    These regs tend to follow ADR's as a general rule, but may vary from state to state.

    Interesting to see that on page 2 of 4 it states that most windscreen manufacturers state that 98% of harmful UV rays are dealt with. The film tint version deals with guys that suffer medical conditions ... perhaps an Albino or those suffering dermatitis or similar.

    Also an interesting section on the sanwich type windscreen that the Mark 6 has with some form of sound deading incorporated into the front windscreen.

    For those considering the Golf 'R' with 19" Talledaga wheels, on other continents, including neighbour NZ, the factory tint is part of the 19" wheel option. Some may not have any choice in this regard.

    Fuel consumption:

    From Sydney to Gold Coast, using two different routes (New England up/Pacific Hwy down), my MKV GTI used 7.0 litres/100km door to door inlcuding city driving, which is not far from stated ADR fuel consumption claim. From Sydney to Canberra it averages 7.2 litres/100km door to door. I reckon the Mark 6 GTI should cut this by up to half a litre on both journeys (esp Sydney to Qld) .... exciting stuff.

    Cheers.
    WJ
    Last edited by WhiteJames; 06-03-2010 at 10:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteJames View Post
    This is the official NSW line on window tinting directly from the NSW RTA website:

    http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati...vsi03_rev3.pdf

    These regs tend to follow ADR's as a general rule, but may vary from state to state.

    Interesting to see that on page 2 of 4 it states that most windscreen manufacturers state that 98% of harmful UV rays are dealt with. The film tint version deals with guys that suffer medical conditions ... perhaps an Albino or those suffering dermatitis or similar.
    There's many types of UV however and I wouldn't put any faith in claims by windscreen manufacturers as they are talking about UV in general and a lot of your sun exposure also comes from the side windows (especially the arms).

    Ordinary glass will block some UV-A and nearly all UV-B.

    UV-A (long wave): Most likely to causes cancer and aging of the skin.
    UV-B (medium wave): Most sunburn and some cancer.
    UV-C (short wave): The ozone layer takes care of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick View Post
    There's many types of UV however and I wouldn't put any faith in claims by windscreen manufacturers as they are talking about UV in general and a lot of your sun exposure also comes from the side windows (especially the arms).

    Ordinary glass will block some UV-A and nearly all UV-B.

    UV-A (long wave): Most likely to causes cancer and aging of the skin.
    UV-B (medium wave): Most sunburn and some cancer.
    UV-C (short wave): The ozone layer takes care of this.
    But in Australia at least, we don't really have much of an Ozone Layer left. Are there some tints that do UV-C aswell?

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    The ACC could be handy for me... Not for any handling benefits but because the roads around Sydney's inner-west must be the worst in the country - "comfort" mode would be used a lot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteJames View Post
    For those considering the Golf 'R' with 19" Talledaga wheels, on other continents, including neighbour NZ, the factory tint is part of the 19" wheel option. Some may not have any choice in this regard.
    I don't really like not getting a choice about the privacy glass.. It has a green tinge which i don't really like, but to match the shade the front two windows would probably be darker than legal.

    As people have said in other threads (that work in insurance) you won't get your insurance claims denied just because of tints.

    Mav how does privacy glass go in terms of head rejection, UV-A & UV-B?

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