New Passat 206TSI R-Line

[FastGolfR]

Does anyone know how to reset service reminder on 206. Not great at searching, but I did try!
It is in the manual somewhere. Hold the trip button in front of the steering wheel for 3-5 secs. A menu should appear.

[Buzy_Robot]

Sticking with RACV Comprehensive Car Insurance after all. Better the devil you know and all that ....

Got the price down to $1,219 (with $750 excess) including hire car and windscreen options.

A more palatable price than the initial $1,247.31 (without options).

Not the cheapest, but not the most expensive either. Speaking to them over the phone several times helped bring the renewal price down.

[GBXRS]

Ordered new 206 white sedan with sunroof today. It's in stock & I collect it on Tuesday.
Shannons insurance on $600 excess, adding it to our policy that already has 2 cars with them) = $663 inc glass cover & hire car.

[CaseySP]

Ordered new 206 white sedan with sunroof today. It's in stock & I collect it on Tuesday.
Shannons insurance on $600 excess, adding it to our policy that already has 2 cars with them) = $663 inc glass cover & hire car.

Time to head back to Shannons I think. Haven't used them since I gave away car clubs, sports cars and racetracks.

[206er]

Hi guys, picked up my first VW a week ago.........206TSI black wagon with sunroof. Brilliant car (as you'd know), still discovering all the features and enjoying the sweet ride. This thread helped me decide on the 206 so thanks for your help!

[Mr_206]

Congrats!! This thread needs more pics!! :)

[CaseySP]

Congrats!! This thread needs more pics!! :)

Chopper already posted pictures of mine 🙄

[chopper]

Chopper already posted pictures of mine ��

Did you copy?! It's a great colour! :cool:

[CaseySP]

Did you copy?! It's a great colour! :cool:

VW wouldn't offer any special order colours this time around so I agonised for ages over the very limited palette (5 shades of grey from white to black and 2 metallic blues).

Very happy with the Tungsten in the end. I agree it's a great colour that suits the shape nicely - tones down the chrome and R-Line body kit well.

Mind you, if I could have got the Polo's Cornflour Blue it would have been a different story :D

[snala]

In the persoalise menu under car settings. Manualy either code both the keys to one driver profile or to set them to different profiles. If you change keys then it will move the searea to whomever the profile is assigned too. There is also a lazy exit function you can add using vcds. It's fully moves the seat back when the vehicle stops.

I hope this helps.
Thanks , yes mine must have the lazy exit enabled a it does that each time which I think is causing it.
I only ever use one key as I am the only driver so have reset both seat positions to the same but it still loses the return position after after coming back from lazy exit mode.
I think moving the seat backwards and forwards enables some creep in the memory or whatever mechanical function returns it to where it thinks it last was.
Oh well just have to keep fixing every couple of days.

[FastGolfR]

Here are some....
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[hosko11]

Created in error

[Mr_206]

Looks fantastic! Im still awaiting a call from the dealer on the Arteon pricing as i may swap my order over!! Hope its not too much more than the 206!

[Mr_206]

Caradvice Review 2017 Volkswagen Passat 206TSI R-Line review | CarAdvice (http://www.caradvice.com.au/515726/2017-volkswagen-passat-206tsi-r-line-review-2/)

[Razman10000]

After reading though the posts in here, finally made the decision to upgrade my Scirocco R to a Passat 206 Sedan.
Took delivery earlier this week and couldn't be happier. Haven't had the chance to take many pics yet, but here's one I snapped last night.
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[Mr_206]

Congrats!!

[Eyes24]

Hi all! If anyone in vic is looking to buy new Vw car, l can put you onto a mate of mine who will look after you.
PM me for details.


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[zfl001]

Took delivery of a white wagon to replace an R36 MY10.5 wagon.

Wife likes the lighter steering in comfort mode, kids like that little bit extra leg room in the back as they can get a big swing when kicking the back of the seats :facepalm:

Doesn't feel as "spirited" as the R36 yet - a few more k's might help (and a few extra ponies....). Done a few little tweaks with OBDeleven so far (TMC, start/stop disable, VIM and Adaptive Lane Assist). Haven't tried out the Adaptive Lane Assist yet to see if it's working.

I liked the deeper boot on the R36 (have a tall 12V car fridge that gets lugged around sometimes), but have found it's possible to drop the floor in the wagon if you take some stoppers out and also the tool kit molding. In some markets this is a std feature by the looks.

Overall, impressed.

[Mr_206]

Took delivery of a white wagon to replace an R36 MY10.5 wagon.

Wife likes the lighter steering in comfort mode, kids like that little bit extra leg room in the back as they can get a big swing when kicking the back of the seats :facepalm:

Doesn't feel as "spirited" as the R36 yet - a few more k's might help (and a few extra ponies....). Done a few little tweaks with OBDeleven so far (TMC, start/stop disable, VIM and Adaptive Lane Assist). Haven't tried out the Adaptive Lane Assist yet to see if it's working.

I liked the deeper boot on the R36 (have a tall 12V car fridge that gets lugged around sometimes), but have found it's possible to drop the floor in the wagon if you take some stoppers out and also the tool kit molding. In some markets this is a std feature by the looks.

Overall, impressed.

what are TMC and VIM? Whats the adaptive lane assist do?

[Wynnston]

what are TMC and VIM? Whats the adaptive lane assist do?

Adaptive lane assist is standard from memory and can be enabled in the Car -> Settings menu under 'Driver Assistance'. It basically adapts to your driving habit and keeps you in the lane. It is an extension of the general lane assist that stops you veering out of lane.

TMC = Traffic Information (very handy, particularly with the NAV display in your Adaptive Info Display instrument cluster)
VIM = Video in Motion. It means you can play video while driving (from memory).

[Mr_206]

I thought the passat had TMC? Or do you have to enable it in the backend with a cable?

[Wynnston]

I thought the passat had TMC? Or do you have to enable it in the backend with a cable?

You have to enable it in the backend.

[Mr_206]

So then it reads speed signs and shows them on the sat nav? Is that correct?

[AJ240]

So then it reads speed signs and shows them on the sat nav? Is that correct?

No. TMC (Traffic Management Channel) is for traffic updates only. For speed sign recognition the solution is a bit more involved and also requires a VCDS cable and software to modify settings.

[Mr_206]

Right got you!... so does the traffic thing work well? As good as google traffic display on the phone?

So i assume it re-routes when there is traffic on your route entered?

[Wynnston]

Right got you!... so does the traffic thing work well? As good as google traffic display on the phone?

So i assume it re-routes when there is traffic on your route entered?

It cautions you if on your route. Then you have the option to reroute.

[zfl001]

VIM = Video in Motion. It means you can play video while driving (from memory).

Sorry, been a way for a bit. This is correct - VIM = Video in Motion. I had some apps on my phone I wanted to view while driving. VIM allows this. Don't care for videos etc while driving.

[Diegothecat]

Ive figured out how to change the colours of the digital dash and the infotainment system. These are all changeable through the lighting section in the infotainment system. Im super stoked about this as Iv did it once and then VW reset it on me and couldn't remember how to change it again and my history was too long to look back through but I finally found it again.

[AJ240]

Ive figured out how to change the colours of the digital dash and the infotainment system. These are all changeable through the lighting section in the infotainment system. Im super stoked about this as Iv did it once and then VW reset it on me and couldn't remember how to change it again and my history was too long to look back through but I finally found it again.

Would you be able to share how you did this? I cannot see how to do this.

[Wynnston]

Ive figured out how to change the colours of the digital dash and the infotainment system. These are all changeable through the lighting section in the infotainment system. Im super stoked about this as Iv did it once and then VW reset it on me and couldn't remember how to change it again and my history was too long to look back through but I finally found it again.

Nice. I would be keen to find out what you changed in VCDS.

[cdonny]

Just had a phone call from a mate of mine that's a copper, he was telling me he was down at the state cop shop today and they had a bunch of 206 wagons in there getting kitted out for the force. The cops are very happy with their new toys...

The bad news is a lot of people will now think I'm in an unmarked cop car...

[keepleft]

Anyone know about removing the nag screen using VCDS?

[penguino]

The time has come to upgrade from my MKV R32 to something more practical (and hopefully more fuel efficient). Tossing up between the Passat 206TSI wagon or the new MK7.5 Golf R wagon. I think both will be plenty quick enough for my purposes. Key priority is highway fuel consumption and comfort/noise as I do regular Sydney-Canberra trips.

What is the RPM in the 206TSI at 120km/h and is it noisy? My R32 currently sits at close to 3000RPM cruising at 120km/h and while it's effortless, it's loud and still drinks over 10L/100km (can't do a return trip without filling up).

[Wynnston]

The time has come to upgrade from my MKV R32 to something more practical (and hopefully more fuel efficient). Tossing up between the Passat 206TSI wagon or the new MK7.5 Golf R wagon. I think both will be plenty quick enough for my purposes. Key priority is highway fuel consumption and comfort/noise as I do regular Sydney-Canberra trips.

What is the RPM in the 206TSI at 120km/h and is it noisy? My R32 currently sits at close to 3000RPM cruising at 120km/h and while it's effortless, it's loud and still drinks over 10L/100km (can't do a return trip without filling up).

~2500RPM @ 120 ~7.5-8L / 100kms

[penguino]

Great. Thanks. I wonder if they will update this with the 7 speed wet clutch in the near future.

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[Mr_206]

the 7 spd is coming for MY18 updates later this year....

[Tongy]

Hi guys want to thank you for this thread. I went to buy a my wagon a few weeks ago and walked away disappointed as was told I couldn't have one if I wanted a tow bar :(. Not being content with the answer as I thought it could from spec sheet so I did my research and this forum helped me immensely. I am now a very happy owner. Here is a snap that my detailer took. Thanks for all the advice everyone puts up on the forum
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[206Harvard]

Wow, did they say a towbar wasn't an option on the wagon?
Looks great btw!

[kieranr]

Hi guys,
I currently own a 2013 Highline Amarok but I'm close to pulling the trigger on a Tungsten Silver wagon with sunroof.
I was all gungho for a V6 Ultimate Amarok but I am now completely converted to the Passat wagon for its awesome spec, performance and value for money!!
I've read this thread from start to finish and I've seen several mentions of corporate discounts and chasing sub $60k deals, however I have not seen anyone actually confirm they were able to get this sort of pricing.
Everyone seems to be low $60k at best.
HAs anyone actually been able to get sub $60k?
I've shopped around several dealers and I'm currently sitting at a best offer of around $61k. My biggest haggle will be the changeover from the Amarok..............

[bunglebp]

Took delivery of a white wagon to replace an R36 MY10.5 wagon.

Wife likes the lighter steering in comfort mode, kids like that little bit extra leg room in the back as they can get a big swing when kicking the back of the seats :facepalm:

Doesn't feel as "spirited" as the R36 yet - a few more k's might help (and a few extra ponies....). Done a few little tweaks with OBDeleven so far (TMC, start/stop disable, VIM and Adaptive Lane Assist). Haven't tried out the Adaptive Lane Assist yet to see if it's working.

I liked the deeper boot on the R36 (have a tall 12V car fridge that gets lugged around sometimes), but have found it's possible to drop the floor in the wagon if you take some stoppers out and also the tool kit molding. In some markets this is a std feature by the looks.

Overall, impressed.

Hiya..I just bought a 2017 Passat 206 TSI R Wagon and LOVE it BUT was extremely dissapointed with some options being missing from the Discover Pro unit grrr, I was thinking of buying the OBDEleven unit so could enable them but hoping someoene could give me some codes they have used and tested? I am looking to activate TMC / DAB / Google Earth / Car Net / VIM i know some of these are country related but any assistance would be appreciated? :)

[bunglebp]

Wow, did they say a towbar wasn't an option on the wagon?
Looks great btw!

I queried this and got told towbar is NOT an option due to the automatic boot on the 206 TSI R

[Tongy]

I think the original specifications did not include a tow bar, but subsequently was updated and not all dealers have read the updated specs. This forum is proof that you can get a tow bar fitted so just shop around.
I queried this and got told towbar is NOT an option due to the automatic boot on the 206 TSI R

[doc_777]

I queried this and got told towbar is NOT an option due to the automatic boot on the 206 TSI R

I will preface this by saying that I have an Alltrack Wolfsburg, not a 206TSI - but I DO have the auto tailgate. AND a towbar. I would suggest that the dealer you spoke to is not up to date on specs.

[doc_777]

By "auto tailgate" does that mean wave your foot underneath and the tailgate opens/closes?
Pretty certain my 206 wagon does not have that. Would be nice if it did.

That's what I'm referring to dude, yeah.

[206Harvard]

Somehow my question about the auto tailgate was deleted....never mind.
Just looked at the specs and yes it says auto tailgate not fitted on the rline.🤐

[bentbird]

The sensor for the auto open wasn't compatible with the rear bumper skirt on the R Line. It seems like it might be an easy mod if the sensor is still there and just needs a cutout and enable.

What's the difference with the adaptive lane assist enabled with the OBD and the standard lane assist?

[zzc2010]

The sensor for the auto open wasn't compatible with the rear bumper skirt on the R Line. It seems like it might be an easy mod if the sensor is still there and just needs a cutout and enable.

What's the difference with the adaptive lane assist enabled with the OBD and the standard lane assist?

Adaptive = Keep your car in the center of two lanes

Standard = Mod you back from getting outa a lane

[Wynnston]

Has anyone done any mods like

- Resinator Delete or Full Exhaust, and if so, what does it sound like (clip)
- Lowering Springs
- Tune other than a JB1/4

I want to get a bit more barp out of the exhaust as well as make the car look a little better. I'm worried springs will throw off the ACC and the res delete might make it drone, which is why I'm looking for anyone that's done it.

[Demonoid]

the 7 spd is coming for MY18 updates later this year....
Can you please confirm where you have gotten this information?

I am close to purchasing a new 206TSI when my novated lease runs out in early August.

Would consider delaying if the 7 speed (which i assume will improve fuel economy?) comes out later this year...

[Wynnston]

Can you please confirm where you have gotten this information?

I am close to purchasing a new 206TSI when my novated lease runs out in early August.

Would consider delaying if the 7 speed (which i assume will improve fuel economy?) comes out later this year...

I'd say check with your local dealer, but I had to tell my dealer that the 206 existed in the first place.

I don't think anyone will give a definite answer until one is delivered or advertising is updated.

[206er]

Hey guys, has anyone had any infotainment gremlins in their 206? The central nav maps work OK but I keep getting 'Starting Map View' circling in the dash view but with no maps. Also when using the steering wheel buttons to change radio to the next station it chooses some random station instead of the next one to the left or right. Keen to hear if any issues?

[age7875]

Hey guys, has anyone had any infotainment gremlins in their 206? The central nav maps work OK but I keep getting 'Starting Map View' circling in the dash view but with no maps. Also when using the steering wheel buttons to change radio to the next station it chooses some random station instead of the next one to the left or right. Keen to hear if any issues?

For the radio station you can select in the menu whether you want the next button to cycle the favourites or the list they stored in. I think the default is the list which isn't what you expect when you hit next station. Changing this to favourite should make it more intuitive.


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[Mr_206]

Anyone considering one of these Arteon's?

2018 Volkswagen Arteon: Australian details confirmed (http://www.caradvice.com.au/552918/2018-volkswagen-arteon-australian-details-confirmed/?source=carousel&slot=0)

[doc_777]

Anyone considering one of these Arteon's?

2018 Volkswagen Arteon: Australian details confirmed (http://www.caradvice.com.au/552918/2018-volkswagen-arteon-australian-details-confirmed/?source=carousel&slot=0)

Yep, my wife.

She has a 2016 model 132TSI Comfortline. Loves the size and comfort that the Passat-sized vehicle brings, just would like something "spunkier" for want of a better term. So in a couple to 3 years time... She loves the look of the Arteon - just a matter of what it's like "in the flesh" so to speak.

[206er]

Cool, thanks for the fix age7875, that worked. Not sure how it got changed but all good back to normal. The map issue seems to have fixed itself now too after not working for a few days.........fingers crossed stays that way. Cheers

[Demonoid]

I'd say check with your local dealer, but I had to tell my dealer that the 206 existed in the first place.

I don't think anyone will give a definite answer until one is delivered or advertising is updated.
Well, not sure about the Passat but the new Arteon will have the 7 speed box confirmed. Engine is the same.

I am glad I held off - the Arteon will be the perfect replacement for my CC

[Finno]

Picked my new Passat 206 rline wagon up this week, after merely dropping into the dealers just to look at one on my way out somewhere. Highly underrated car, superbly impressed with it. I would encourage anyone looking at cars in this bracket to test drive one.

[Pershat]

Picked my new Passat 206 rline wagon up this week, after merely dropping into the dealers just to look at one on my way out somewhere. Highly underrated car, superbly impressed with it. I would encourage anyone looking at cars in this bracket to test drive one.

Snap! 2 days in and real impressed, although all the tech controls takes some learning.

Despite figures on paper I was a bit underwhelmed on the test drive - tried launch control 3 times :rolleyes:
However after driving it for longer now I'm most content. Has a nice purrr and need to learn not to put my foot down as much in some situations!
Very comfy, good performance. I'd agree with Finno, defo worth a look if these points float your boat and the budget's for you.

[206Harvard]

Arteon should have the Audi 2.5l five cylinder engine from the hot TT, that would be a real cracker!

[Mr_206]

Looks like they are starting to hit the streets overseas!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlvA6kd5adA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J94TdUTJWNY

[206Harvard]

I'm in Germany at the moment on holiday and I've not seen one 206 either sedan or wagon, the last one I saw was in Czech Republic of all places two weeks ago, the home of Skoda.
Admittedly I haven't ventured to far just yet but i thought if I were to see any it would be here in Germany.

[snala]

I'm in Germany at the moment on holiday and I've not seen one 206 either sedan or wagon, the last one I saw was in Czech Republic of all places two weeks ago, the home of Skoda.
Admittedly I haven't ventured to far just yet but i thought if I were to see any it would be here in Germany.

They haven't had the 206 petrol VW in Germany or the UK up until now. The diesels are way more popular and taxed to promote that so the high level Passat in Germany is the twin turbo 178kw motor version. Think recently the 206 version has become available somebody mentioned but no tests on it yet I've found.
We have had both cars here in NZ since Nov 2015 so very much market dependent. I've had mine for just about 12 months now.

[cyberkank]

Can anyone confirmed that these Passat 206TSI are being discontinued by VW Australia in favour of the Arteon 206TSI?

[tigger73]

I doubt it. I think they'll just run it side by side with the regular Passat - just like the CC used to.

[206Harvard]

They haven't had the 206 petrol VW in Germany or the UK up until now. The diesels are way more popular and taxed to promote that so the high level Passat in Germany is the twin turbo 178kw motor version. Think recently the 206 version has become available somebody mentioned but no tests on it yet I've found.
We have had both cars here in NZ since Nov 2015 so very much market dependent. I've had mine for just about 12 months now.
Ok, i thought the diesels would be more popular, most cars here seem to be but I didn't realise the 206 wasn't even available.
I heard that in a few years time, diesels will be banned from some cities altogether.

[Transporter]

Ok, i thought the diesels would be more popular, most cars here seem to be but I didn't realise the 206 wasn't even available.
I heard that in a few years time, diesels will be banned from some cities altogether.

It's the old news my friend.
Some cities already banned ALL cars entry, several years ago. Though only in some European countries like Switzerland and only one city I know of.

The fake medias are just manipulating your mind into believe that only the diesels will be banned. It won't happen in Australia. Just look at the age of many cars on our roads. If only they were replaced with a new diesels our air would be better, especially in the cities.

[Mr_206]

Can anyone confirmed that these Passat 206TSI are being discontinued by VW Australia in favour of the Arteon 206TSI?

They will both be sold. The Arteon actually sits above the Passat in the VW range.

[wingzee]

Been quoted $61k for a 2016 MY17 demo with less than 100km milleage & $59k for a 2017 MY18 Tiggy 162TSI - seeking advice on what would be a better buy? Wifey likes the high-riding SUV driving position & ground clearance of the Tiggy but I do prefer the Passat for the power & handling despite being a bigger car. Rear legroom seems to be pretty close but with rear facing child seats the Passat comes on top. Decisions decisions!

The Tiggy has 5-7 months waiting period too so that kinda annoys me.

PS: Is $61k a good deal for the Passat? I do note that some managed to get down to $57k for the Tiggy but my dealer wouldn't budge.

[cyberkank]

Been quoted $61k for a 2016 MY17 demo with less than 100km milleage & $59k for a 2017 MY18 Tiggy 162TSI - seeking advice on what would be a better buy? Wifey likes the high-riding SUV driving position & ground clearance of the Tiggy but I do prefer the Passat for the power & handling despite being a bigger car. Rear legroom seems to be pretty close but with rear facing child seats the Passat comes on top. Decisions decisions!

The Tiggy has 5-7 months waiting period too so that kinda annoys me.

PS: Is $61k a good deal for the Passat? I do note that some managed to get down to $57k for the Tiggy but my dealer wouldn't budge.

I was in a similar dilemma a few months ago, ended up with a Skoda Superb 206 instead due to the long wait of the Tiguan and the Passat 206 Sedan being not as very practical especially if you want to put lots of stuffs in the boot for camping (esky, prams, clothing, toys etc).
I reckon resell value of the Tiguan will be much better than both the Passat and Superb. If you can wait I reckon Tiguan will be better bet or wait for the Arteon 206.
I got quoted 58k driveaway (no sunroof) and 55k for Tiguan (no sunroof). I reckon they can do better than 61k especially with the Arteon coming into the market soon.

[pologti18t]

I'm in Germany at the moment on holiday and I've not seen one 206 either sedan or wagon, the last one I saw was in Czech Republic of all places two weeks ago, the home of Skoda.
Admittedly I haven't ventured to far just yet but i thought if I were to see any it would be here in Germany.

Isn't just called a Passat 2.0TSi 280 (280ps = 206kw)

Aug 2015
https://youtu.be/QuZ3UowVSKs

[snala]

Anybody tried or thinking about one of these? Gets good reviews from a lot of VW, Audi and Skoda drivers? If it gets rid of a bit of the low speed gear change shunt then..... It's a version one on my car looking underneath
https://www.autoinstruct.com.au/product/034-motorsport-aluminium-mqb-dogbone-mount-insert-version-1/ (https://www.autoinstruct.com.au/product/034-motorsport-aluminium-mqb-dogbone-mount-insert-version-2/)

[kieranr]

After much deliberation the proverbial trigger has been pulled on a '17 built, Tungsten Silver 206 with sunroof. :)
Should have it by the end of the month.
I've owned an Amarok Highline for the last 4 years so this will be a huge change for me but I can't wait!! :)

[Mr_206]

Congrats! What you end up paying if you dont mind me asking?

[jmj]

I'm keen on a new Passat 206 R-Line to replace my ageing 125 kw Passat. Can someone tell me if the R-line Passat has auto dipping high beam feature. I live in a rural area where I often use high beam at night but am sick of manually turning them on and off with on coming traffic.

[ope126]

I'm keen on a new Passat 206 R-Line to replace my ageing 125 kw Passat. Can someone tell me if the R-line Passat has auto dipping high beam feature. I live in a rural area where I often use high beam at night but am sick of manually turning them on and off with on coming traffic.

Short answer...No!

However it can be activated via VCDS / OBD11 etc.

Myself personally can not get it activated!:confused:

[jmj]

Short answer...No!

However it can be activated via VCDS / OBD11 etc.

Myself personally can not get it activated!:confused:

That's a bummer... I might ask the dealer about it when I head in for a test drive. If it can be programmed I may be able to convince them to do it.

[Jimi]

What sort of wait times have people experienced recently? The Tiguan is horrendous!

[Wynnston]

What sort of wait times have people experienced recently? The Tiguan is horrendous!

I think there are a few dealer cars kicking around. Otherwise orders ~ 3-6 months.

[Guest001]

Is a silver Rline wagon sitting at Cricks on the Sunny Coast Has been there for a couple of months Priced around the $60k mark Has pano sunroof and I think xenon lights, Silver with black interior Yuck

[Low_Maintenance]

I think there are a few dealer cars kicking around. Otherwise orders ~ 3-6 months.


I ordered one 2 weeks ago - is due this week.... fingures crossed.

[Jimi]

Another tick in Passat column then in the Tiguan/Passat decision making process

[bunglebp]

I ordered one 2 weeks ago - is due this week.... fingures crossed.

Bought my 206 TSI Wagon in White back in May - Took 1 WEEK to deliver, soooo Happy with it, a few tweeks with OBD11 to get VIM and changed dashboard tube to the Arteon one! It is 1 sweet car..only issue I dont like is No car net / Freeview for us folks in Australia..Just love putting my foot down when an unsuspecting WRX or Audi TT tries to play hehe :)

[Malduin]

I am currently torn between a 2018 3.6R Subaru Outback or the 206 TSI Wagon, lots of pluses and minuses on both sides - I was wandering if there were any reliability issues with the Passat that members have come across?

[bunglebp]

I am currently torn between a 2018 3.6R Subaru Outback or the 206 TSI Wagon, lots of pluses and minuses on both sides - I was wandering if there were any reliability issues with the Passat that members have come across?

Had to laugh as I had that issue back in May I was torn between the Outback R / Levorg / Legacy B -Spec and the Passat but in the end the Passat was the way I went .. :)

p.s Never liked a Passat until the 206 TSI R-Line came along

[Low_Maintenance]

Picked it up yesterday MY18 wagon - and really happy with it. Had to go to work today so couldn't drive it but looking forward to the weekend.

[Low_Maintenance]

Quick question - I take it that the 206 does not come with a subwoofer?

[gr33nbastad]

Picked it up yesterday MY18 wagon - and really happy with it. Had to go to work today so couldn't drive it but looking forward to the weekend.

Appologies if this has been covered - just startign to think about a Passat! Have you got the new Discover/Discover Pro display or still the MIBII display? Thanks!!

[Low_Maintenance]

It has the new display with no button as such.

still trying to work out how everything works - does anyone know how to bring up your contacts using the steering wheels controls? I can only see the recent call list displayed - that is on the display between the speedo.

[DR074]

Long time listener, first time caller. This forum has been great.

Had to laugh at both of you. I was in the same boat in May as well. Test drove, Mazda 6, Mondeo, Liberty, Levorg, WRX, Audi S3 and Mustang. I ended up buying the new Passat 206, and have been impressed ever since I bought it in June.

Verdict
Mazda 6 - Had good kit, for 2.5 L, was gutless as f***.
Liberty - When I was young, these were high end. Not as nice as I thought it would be.
Levorg - was ok, but was a wagon. We already have a soccer mum car, didn't need another.
WRX - thought they would have upgraded their motor by now. Was just ok inside.
Mondeo - Nice, but not AWD, and not that powerful.
Audi S3 - Man, this was nice, but too small (might as well buy the mustang). Then the sales guy said what about the S4 for $100k. hmmmm, no thanks.
Mustang - Yummy, but really only for 2.

I have only ever owned Falcons, last being the XR6T - 2007 model. That thing was a weapon. I would have loved to get the mustang (boyhood wet dream), but hard to get with kids, when its your daily. However, I really think that bang for buck, the Passat 206 is the business. With how comfortable it is, all the kit you get, the power and being AWD, if you have $65k (or less if you get a demo), and don't buy one of these, you have rocks in your head.

[FastGolfR]

Try the APR Stage 1 tune. Then it IS a weapon. Huge gains in torque and kW!! DSG software upgrade is fantastic too.

[FastGolfR]

Try an APR Stage 1 tune!! 280kW!!

[Davidb]

G'day guys, just picked up a new 206 and wow what a great car, I'm after some suggestion on any upgrades and so on and is there any more at to get a tune done without the dealer knowing ?

[amunra]

hey guys. does any one have info about brakes for this 206tsi?

do they use the same pads and brake set up as the mk 7 golf R ?

family member might be considering buying one of these rocket ships after we compared it to my golf r and found it pretty similar just in a bigger format and less exhaust note.. bit more driveable for day to day and carrying things but god damn fast for an affordable wagon.

[amunra]

G'day guys, just picked up a new 206 and wow what a great car, I'm after some suggestion on any upgrades and so on and is there any more at to get a tune done without the dealer knowing ?

you should look into the JB4 unit thats available for golf R . its a piggy back that increases boost but doesnt flash the software just inputs different data while the box is plugged in. has good reviews for not being detected when unplugged for warranty purpose and is pretty much what it was designed to do.

[ash05]

I test drove an Rline Wagon today. After about 15 years in Commodore's the jig is up! I must say I was very impressed. The performance, the features and the styling all ticked boxes for me.

I do occasionally tow a caravan, it's about 1900kg's the Commodore towed it with ease. The specs say 2200Kgs is possible, but the only question the sales rep couldn't answer for me was how it would 'really' tow the caravan. So... does anyone have any experience in using the Rline to tow a reasonable size van/boat etc? I've previously prioritised the 98% of driving I do over the 2% I do when towing the van, but I do need to be comfortable that it will be up the job. I'd really appreciate any feedback. Cheers

[Guest001]

I test drove an Rline Wagon today. After about 15 years in Commodore's the jig is up! I must say I was very impressed. The performance, the features and the styling all ticked boxes for me.

I do occasionally tow a caravan, it's about 1900kg's the Commodore towed it with ease. The specs say 2200Kgs is possible, but the only question the sales rep couldn't answer for me was how it would 'really' tow the caravan. So... does anyone have any experience in using the Rline to tow a reasonable size van/boat etc? I've previously prioritised the 98% of driving I do over the 2% I do when towing the van, but I do need to be comfortable that it will be up the job. I'd really appreciate any feedback. Cheers

Your biggest problem will be the very light ballweight limit. Usually about 90Kg on a Passat and far to light for a 2000kg van, unless its a Euro type van

What is the ball weight on your van and what was the Commodores allowable weight. Or did you just hook up and go and not worry.

[ash05]

Your biggest problem will be the very light ballweight limit. Usually about 90Kg on a Passat and far to light for a 2000kg van, unless its a Euro type van

What is the ball weight on your van and what was the Commodores allowable weight. Or did you just hook up and go and not worry.

Thanks for that. I did wonder about the ball weight limit and I was struggling to find any info on it.

The commodore ball weight limit is 210kgs and the van is about 150kgs so isn't a problem.





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[Guest001]

Thanks for that. I did wonder about the ball weight limit and I was struggling to find any info on it.

The commodore ball weight limit is 210kgs and the van is about 150kgs so isn't a problem.





Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The limit for the Passat is in the manual and most of them including mine are 90kg so virtually useless for towing an Aussie van and only good for a Bailey or a York or similar, Maybe a Jurgens If you download the Brochure from VW it is listed in there as 90kg for ALL model Passats

[MJT]

Thought i'd let the cat out of the bag given i have been trying to sell my Jetta on here (and carsales (https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Volkswagen-Jetta-2007/SSE-AD-5065656)) at the moment...

I have upgraded to a white 2017 R-line sedan, complete with panoramic sunroof. Ex-demo so should pickup this week *fingers crossed*

Current status: trawling this section of the forums for tips and tricks :)

[Wynnston]

Thought i'd let the cat out of the bag given i have been trying to sell my Jetta on here (and carsales (https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Volkswagen-Jetta-2007/SSE-AD-5065656)) at the moment...

I have upgraded to a white 2017 R-line sedan, complete with panoramic sunroof. Ex-demo so should pickup this week *fingers crossed*

Current status: trawling this section of the forums for tips and tricks :)

Wohoo! Congrats

[MJT]

Thanks Wynnston.

Looking to make some aesthetic tweaks at the moment. Gloss black vinyl wrap for small panel of roof behind the sunroof, brushed aluminium wrap for the mirrors, and possibly gloss black on the trim around the fog lights (a.la the R line touareg/tiguan).

Has anyone removed the euro plate holder on the front? Thinking gloss white plugs for the holes would be less noticeable than the massive black holder. Thoughts?

[Eyes24]

Thanks Wynnston.

Looking to make some aesthetic tweaks at the moment. Gloss black vinyl wrap for small panel of roof behind the sunroof, brushed aluminium wrap for the mirrors, and possibly gloss black on the trim around the fog lights (a.la the R line touareg/tiguan).

Has anyone removed the euro plate holder on the front? Thinking gloss white plugs for the holes would be less noticeable than the massive black holder. Thoughts?

I removed the front euro bracket on my my18 Tiguan and ordered the indium grey plugs from
Bumperplugs.com
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/11/f0328754aa62966e09c119346566d563heic-1.jpg



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[MJT]

I removed the front euro bracket on my my18 Tiguan and ordered the indium grey plugs from
Bumperplugs.com

Thats exactly what i was looking for. Although im worried i will have 3 holes on each side, two for the euro holder, and one for the old number plate (my personalised plates are shorter)

[Eyes24]

Thats exactly what i was looking for. Although im worried i will have 3 holes on each side, two for the euro holder, and one for the old number plate (my personalised plates are shorter)

It ready depends on how long the screws you or they used for your plates


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[DR074]

Hi Fellow 206ers,
Just got working Mk2 Tiguan VCDS Tweaks (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-post1241322.html#post1241322) from NZ_GolfR on my 206. Works great and now have to change colours everyday on the school run.
3135431355

This is such a cool tweak. Thanks

[Wynnston]

Hi Fellow 206ers,
Just got working Mk2 Tiguan VCDS Tweaks (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/mk2-tiguan-vcds-tweaks-116815-post1241322.html#post1241322) from NZ_GolfR on my 206. Works great and now have to change colours everyday on the school run.
3135431355

This is such a cool tweak. Thanks

That's cool. I am assuming that the door strips stay white, or do they change colour too?

[DR074]

Nah, the door side strips are still white. I think they need a multi-coloured LED installed, I think.

let me know if you can't get it working, I had dramas with the original instructions, and i'll do me best to help. If so, i'll whack up my instructions for the 206.

[jmj]

Current drive away price listed as $60k on the VW website.... as long as it's purchased by Dec 31

[Jimi]

Good pick up. What’s that a saving of? Can’t find the old price.

[jmj]

Good pick up. What’s that a saving of? Can’t find the old price.

It was about $65k... negotiable of course.

[Jimi]

Probably not bad then if you can get some free accessories thrown in (not sure they can ever move much price wise on those drive away deals?)

Is there a facelift due in MY19?

[gr33nbastad]

A quick google tells me it is likely a facelift with more tech and and all-glass instrumentation.

[Jimi]

Wouldn’t mind too much if it looked like this

Car history: how the VW Passat evolved since 1973 (https://drivemag.com/red-calipers/car-history-how-the-vw-passat-evolved-since-1973)

[FastGolfR]

hey guys. does any one have info about brakes for this 206tsi?





do they use the same pads and brake set up as the mk 7 golf R ?

family member might be considering buying one of these rocket ships after we compared it to my golf r and found it pretty similar just in a bigger format and less exhaust note.. bit more driveable for day to day and carrying things but god damn fast for an affordable wagon.



Get ATE ceramic pdf same as Golf R. No dust, less rotor wear last 3x longer. Rotors are very expensive so these pads save a lot of $$$$

Front: P/N 351007028C $175
Rear: P/N 351007010C $121

[FastGolfR]

Your biggest problem will be the very light ballweight limit. Usually about 90Kg on a Passat and far to light for a 2000kg van, unless its a Euro type van

What is the ball weight on your van and what was the Commodores allowable weight. Or did you just hook up and go and not worry.


Consider an APR Stage 1 tune. Heaps more torque should be good for towing.

[Demonoid]

Current drive away price listed as $60k on the VW website.... as long as it's purchased by Dec 31
I purchased mine a couple of weeks ago - got a killer deal. 55k drive away and fully optioned (i.e. paint and the sunroof). MY 17 of course. I enquired about the main difference with the MY18 from my dealer and the answer was the new fascia on the sat nav - to match whats in the new Golf and Arteon, but the functionality is almost identical. You get gesture control and some other minor things. I prefer the old system with the 2 knobs. Still a 6 speed DSG though which unlike Arteon and even some bloody lower spec Golfs which have the 7 speed.

[jmj]

I purchased mine a couple of weeks ago - got a killer deal. 55k drive away and fully optioned (i.e. paint and the sunroof). MY 17 of course. I enquired about the main difference with the MY18 from my dealer and the answer was the new fascia on the sat nav - to match whats in the new Golf and Arteon, but the functionality is almost identical. You get gesture control and some other minor things. I prefer the old system with the 2 knobs. Still a 6 speed DSG though which unlike Arteon and even some bloody lower spec Golfs which have the 7 speed.

wow that's a great deal... well haggled.

[doc_777]

I purchased mine a couple of weeks ago - got a killer deal. 55k drive away and fully optioned (i.e. paint and the sunroof). MY 17 of course. I enquired about the main difference with the MY18 from my dealer and the answer was the new fascia on the sat nav - to match whats in the new Golf and Arteon, but the functionality is almost identical. You get gesture control and some other minor things. I prefer the old system with the 2 knobs. Still a 6 speed DSG though which unlike Arteon and even some bloody lower spec Golfs which have the 7 speed.

Was your deal on a new "zero km" vehicle or a demo?

[Demonoid]

wow that's a great deal... well haggled.
Didn't have to really haggle - it was corporate discount via my lease company.

[Demonoid]

Was your deal on a new "zero km" vehicle or a demo?
Brand new - I think it has 20km on it which they all do for testing.

[doc_777]

Brand new - I think it has 20km on it which they all do for testing.

Yep, a genuine zero kay car. That's a good deal. You're right - they all end up with 20 to 30 km on the odometer - they are driven on and off ships, through storage yards...it all adds up.

[5paul0]

HI
Two days ago I put a deposit on an MY 2018 206TSI Rline Wagon. Using a fleet dealer who came back with the price of $57490 drive away no more to pay. Easiest deal I have ever had to do.

[jmj]

HI
Two days ago I put a deposit on an MY 2018 206TSI Rline Wagon. Using a fleet dealer who came back with the price of $57490 drive away no more to pay. Easiest deal I have ever had to do.

nice!... how long is the wait?

[5paul0]

Sometime next week. Probably Thursday Friday but could be as late as Sunday.

[Rocket36]

Well I'm back again... And back in a VW... After I thought it'd be the 206 TSI R-Line, it's not. But I just came here to say I LOVE the front Euro mount removal and plugs. Will definitely be doing that!

[el1x]

Sometime next week. Probably Thursday Friday but could be as late as Sunday.

Congrats - I've had mine since last May and have never looked back.

[Wynnston]

Congrats - I've had mine since last May and have never looked back.

Ooh, another 206 TSI owner in Perth.

A bunch of VW lovers (really all euro) have Coffee @ Elixir, Nedlands every Saturday from 8:30am. Do come along if you're into the very casual cars and coffee thing. Quite a few of us have VCDS etc. so if you need anything coded it's good for that :)

[el1x]

Yeah another 206 perth owner here! Soon to be the proud owner of a 2018 Wolfy.
I’m expecting to take delivery late Feb.
coffee and cars sides like a great start to a weekend.
I’ll have to shoot you a PM when I can get out there.

[zzc2010]

Yeah another 206 perth owner here! Soon to be the proud owner of a 2018 Wolfy.
I’m expecting to take delivery late Feb.
coffee and cars sides like a great start to a weekend.
I’ll have to shoot you a PM when I can get out there.

Have to say I hate Wolfy’s LED headlight. It’s not LED high.


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[Wynnston]

Have to say I hate Wolfy’s LED headlight. It’s not LED high.


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I think he is talking about a Golf R 7.5 Wolfsburg, not a Passat Alltrack Wolfsburg.

[zzc2010]

I think he is talking about a Golf R 7.5 Wolfsburg, not a Passat Alltrack Wolfsburg.

So Wolfy is a Golf R Wol E?


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[el1x]

I think he is talking about a Golf R 7.5 Wolfsburg, not a Passat Alltrack Wolfsburg.

Yes, Golf 7.5 R Wolfsburg.
I should take delivery at the end of Feb.

[Flashheart]

I just took delivery of my new MY18 Passat 206TSI R Line Sedan. I found this forum by doing some research on the car, and I found a lot of great information here. In fact, I read every post in the thread from beginning to end – well done to all people who posted and made this a very informative discussion.

There’s not much I can add technically about the car that hasn’t already been discussed. Perhaps the only point of difference is that mine is an MY18, built September ’17 but compliance plated January ’18. From what I understand there is not much difference other than the updated Discover Pro system with the larger screen that is installed.

I have found the car to be fantastic to drive so far, its steering and dynamics are really sharp, and to me it feels like I am driving a much smaller and very agile car. That may be in part due to coming out of driving an MY15 Subaru Liberty 3.6R –whilst it’s a brilliant car also, its a bit heavy in the steering and has quite a bit of body roll and a harsh ride when not on smooth roads. The new VW leaves itfor dead as a driver’s car. Anyway, the Subaru is now our ‘second’ car, and the Mrs is very happy to be driving it whilst I took the upgrade.

The lack of Dynaudio upgrade really was the only disappointment for me. As a serious audiophile, I would have paid the extra in a heartbeat. The Discover Pro audio is adequate, but really lacks bass, and the mid range sounds awful – I turn it right down on the equalizer. Also, I am struggling to get the gesture control working – not sure if I am doing something wrong, or if there is a problem, but only about 1 in every 10 swipes seems to work.

I noticed somebody asked about the sedan version being discontinued. The salesman I dealt with confirmed that this is the case. Only the wagon will be available in future in 206 TSI R line format due to the fact that the Arteon has been launched. They are apparently looking to free up manufacturing capacity, hence sedan buyers will really only have the option of an Arteon. It’s unfortunate because the Arteon is a much more expensive car – I couldn’t have stretched the budget into the early to mid $70k range, even if it meant getting a sleeker looking design and a heads up display.

Which brings me to the next question people ask – what sort of deals can be had now that the model is well into its life cycle. VW Australia is advertising a special of $59,990 on road for the sedan, but I managed to push pretty hard and got mine for $54,500 on road. It’s white, so no metallic paint and no sunroof, but to me, that seemed like a hell of a good deal for a car of this specification, especially considering it was not floor stock and was an MY18, delivered brand spanking new from the warehouse with a January ’18 plate. It undercut the Arteon by almost $20k, as they are not real keen on discounting it since it’s anew model. A no-brainer decision really, and it seems I got in at the right time since the sedan will be discontinued.

So, this is Passat number 3 for me, having owned both a B5 2.8 V6 Wagon, and a B6 V6 FSI 4Motion Sedan in the past. I have always loved the Passat and it just keep getting better!

[CClub5]

Hi people, I've been through this thread before buying a 206 wagon so thanks for the info. My first post is to share something quite concerning that happened to my car. Strangely, the chrome exhaust holes on the bumper are actually not real and are sealed. Never noticed until after a country drive in sports mode the exhaust completely melted the cover. Turns out the exhaust tips are meant to point downwards and not straight out like mine were. I'd advise people to check. Does anyone have the holes uncovered and with straight pipes (like how I would assume would be the normal way to do it)?

[5paul0]

On my 206 MY18 the pipes are straight but the pipes stop about 4 inches from the chrome exhaust holes, but there is no cover.

[doc_777]

Sounds like a manufacturing defect - that the openings in the bumper were not punched out.

Warranty claim for you sir!

[zzc2010]

Hi people, I've been through this thread before buying a 206 wagon so thanks for the info. My first post is to share something quite concerning that happened to my car. Strangely, the chrome exhaust holes on the bumper are actually not real and are sealed. Never noticed until after a country drive in sports mode the exhaust completely melted the cover. Turns out the exhaust tips are meant to point downwards and not straight out like mine were. I'd advise people to check. Does anyone have the holes uncovered and with straight pipes (like how I would assume would be the normal way to do it)?

Comforline and TDI should be downwards

206 should be straight out single 2 sides

[jmj]

Crikey that sounds like an embarrassing oversight. Let us know how you go with the dealer.

[Rocket36]

It's not an oversite. The chrome exhaust "cut outs" in the bumper aren't actually cut out. At least not on my TDI Highline (which has the R-Line body kit the same as the 206 TSI). I can't imagine there's two separate R-Line bumpers.

My exhaust is behind my rear bumper with the tips pointing down. It would be odd if the tips were pointing straight back at a bumper without cutouts.

So I would say the tips needs to be turned down. Even if there was a hole for the exhaust, straight through tips would still force hot air against plastic.

[CClub5]

On my 206 MY18 the pipes are straight but the pipes stop about 4 inches from the chrome exhaust holes, but there is no cover.

Thanks, the dealership is saying that checking the VIN, it should have turned down pipes and no cut out. Any chance you could send a private message to me with your VIN so the dealership can check that this combination exists? Currently they won't believe me. I told them my preference would be to have straight pipes and cut out if that is what other 206 r lines have.

[doc_777]

TDI's have downturned tips - you can't compare with a petrol engine vehicle. Diesel exhaust tips on passenger vehicles must be downward facing to meet ADR's.

[CClub5]

Comforline and TDI should be downwards

206 should be straight out single 2 sides

Thanks, do you have any supporting documentation I can show the dealer?

[Rocket36]

Thanks, the dealership is saying that checking the VIN, it should have turned down pipes and no cut out.

I would agree with that. But if they don't believe you, you can take it to them and show them! lol

If the MY18 206TSI have changed to straight pipes and a cutout hole in the bumper, you may have been unlucky and gotten the new exhaust but the wrong bumper on the production line during the change-over.

I'm still surprised they've changed it.

[Rooboy]

Diesel exhaust tips on passenger vehicles must be downward facing to meet ADR's.

Are you sure about that? My Golf Alltrack, and the previous Yeti, are twin straight out and I'm pretty sure the new Tiggy is the same with both TDI engines.

[Rocket36]

Diesel exhaust tips on passenger vehicles must be downward facing to meet ADR's.

Negative! I have a 2012 diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee with straight tips. And it's factory lifted too so they're quite high. Also, the newest model has the same straight through diesel tips.

[zzc2010]

Thanks, do you have any supporting documentation I can show the dealer?

That’s how VW doing things for years.

I don’t have any documents.

That’s how the cars are configured man.


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[zzc2010]

Thanks, do you have any supporting documentation I can show the dealer?

And seriously man.

Your car sounds like the factory put on a wrong comfortline bumper.

206 should have one pipe each side. No cover on the bumper. Both pipes outwards and straight like the Superb 206 or other 206s.

Is your car new? Someone fixed the car and put on a wrong bumper maybe?

It’s just my guessing. No offence.


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[doc_777]

Are you sure about that? My Golf Alltrack, and the previous Yeti, are twin straight out and I'm pretty sure the new Tiggy is the same with both TDI engines.

Almost positive - but there are all kinds of weird things in the ADR's like the exhaust can't exit towards the kerb side etc.

[Rocket36]

MY18 206 TSI R-Line:

2017 Volkswagen Passat 206TSI R-Line B8 Auto 4MOTION MY18 (https://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/Volkswagen-Passat-2017/OAG-AD-15634553/?Cr=0)

Bumper clearly has cut outs in both sides.
Exhaust clearly points straight back.

MY17 206TSI R-Line is the same:

2016 Volkswagen Passat 206TSI R-Line B8 Auto 4MOTION MY17 (https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Volkswagen-Passat-2016/OAG-AD-15479304/?Cr=2)

Bumper clearly has cut outs in both sides.
Exhaust clearly points straight back.


MY17 132TSI Comfortline without R-Line pack:

2017 Volkswagen Passat 132TSI Comfortline B8 Auto MY17 (https://www.carsales.com.au/demo/details/Volkswagen-Passat-2017/OAG-AD-15096458/?Cr=8)

No cut outs. Not sure if their tips are meant to point down or if they're straight.

So my guesses are these:

1. You got a 206TSI R-Line with the "R-Line pack" bumper instead of the "R-Line" bumper. Or;
2. You got a 132TSI Comfortline with an R-Line pack and Luxury pack and it was sold to you just as an R-Line (unlikely)

But what I think is guaranteed, is that the 206 TSI R-Line is meant to have cut outs both sides and straight tips.

[Rocket36]

Your car sounds like the factory put on a wrong comfortline bumper.

It definitely won't be a comfortline bumper. They're so basic they're open where the exhaust is.

I reckon it's a diesel "R-Line pack" bumper instead of a the petrol version. Simple mistake.

[zzc2010]

It definitely won't be a comfortline bumper. They're so basic they're open where the exhaust is.

I reckon it's a diesel "R-Line pack" bumper instead of a the petrol version. Simple mistake.

R-line Comfortline bumper?

Isn’t it the same as your R-line Diesel bumper?

What’s the difference?

What mistake?


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[Rocket36]

If you have a petrol Passat it should have the petrol R-Line bumper.

What I'm saying is, I think you got the diesel R-Line Pack bumper.

[zzc2010]

If you have a petrol Passat it should have the petrol R-Line bumper.

What I'm saying is, I think you got the diesel R-Line Pack bumper.

Only the 206 got pipes out bumpers.

All the other R lines are the same covered fake ones.


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[Rocket36]

Only the 206 got pipes out bumpers.

All the other R lines are the same covered fake ones.


OK cool. So there's the R-Line bumper with cut outs, and the R-Line pack bumper with no cut outs.

That means it's actually a Comfortline with R-Line pack and Luxury Pack, or an R-Line with the wrong bumper.

[zzc2010]

OK cool. So there's the R-Line bumper with cut outs, and the R-Line pack bumper with no cut outs.

That means it's actually a Comfortline with R-Line pack and Luxury Pack, or an R-Line with the wrong bumper.

That’s what I’m saying.

There’s a wrong bumper on his car.

It’s either from the factory in Germany or more likely someone repaired the car and put on a wrong bumper.


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[Rocket36]

Yup I get what you're saying - I agree.



There’s a wrong bumper on his car.


Or there's a wrong car attached to his bumper! lol I would hate to think someone was sold a 132TSI with R-Line and Lux pack as simply an "R-Line".

[CClub5]

Thanks everyone. Dealership now agrees that my car most likely has the correct exhaust, incorrect bumper and incorrect VIN specs, now waiting for Volkswagon to confirm before repairs are made.

Though mine has twin tips on each side and from the carsales picture, that one does too.

[CClub5]

That’s what I’m saying.

There’s a wrong bumper on his car.

It’s either from the factory in Germany or more likely someone repaired the car and put on a wrong bumper.


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If what I drove wasn't a 206TSI, then I can't imagine the carnage you'd get up to in a real one. It's really quick.

Car is brand new, so most likely from factory.

[zzc2010]

Thanks everyone. Dealership now agrees that my car most likely has the correct exhaust, incorrect bumper and incorrect VIN specs, now waiting for Volkswagon to confirm before repairs are made.

Though mine has twin tips on each side and from the carsales picture, that one does too.

Lucky one man.



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[dArK5HaD0w]

OK cool. So there's the R-Line bumper with cut outs, and the R-Line pack bumper with no cut outs.


tis a similar story with Superb 206 Sportline
the 206 TSi Sportline has twin straight through exhausts and gets "real exhaust" tips
while the 162 TSi Sportline has twin downward facing exhaust and "fake exhaust" tips with no cut out.

206TSi Sportline
33122

162TSi Sportline
33123
*overseas model shown here as we don't get Sportline versions here except for the 206.

[Rocket36]

It’s one of the more unusual mistakes to be made in the factory I have to say.... especially considering they’ve even stuffed up the VIN code!

[zzc2010]

It’s one of the more unusual mistakes to be made in the factory I have to say.... especially considering they’ve even stuffed up the VIN code!

Extremely rare.

Really curious what the result is.

Keep us updated Plz

[Jimi]

With the upcoming Tiguan Allspace it’s hard to understand how Volkswagen justify the price of the Passat when it’ll be the same price as a newer, and what feels like a better-equipped, stablemate.

How hard are discounts being driven at the moment and do we know anything more about a facelift?

[Jondalar]

Nope, every Golf 7 2.0 TDI sold in Australia as two pipes pointing straight out at the back, passenger side.


TDI's have downturned tips - you can't compare with a petrol engine vehicle. Diesel exhaust tips on passenger vehicles must be downward facing to meet ADR's.

[Wynnston]

Hmm, so weird combos do exist. Mine came with Adaptive Lane Guidance enabled from factory, I've checked a couple of other R-Line 206's and they only have the basic lane assist version that bumps you back into your lane.

[zzc2010]

Hmm, so weird combos do exist. Mine came with Adaptive Lane Guidance enabled from factory, I've checked a couple of other R-Line 206's and they only have the basic lane assist version that bumps you back into your lane.

ALG activated after MY18. As part of TJA.


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[Wynnston]

ALG activated after MY18. As part of TJA.


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Yeah, mines MY17 though. No TJA.

[zzc2010]

Yeah, mines MY17 though. No TJA.

No point to have ALG then too annoying.


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[FarQ]

Yeah, mines MY17 though. No TJA.

no TJA here (ACC lines deactivate under 60kmh), but have ALG as default.

[Wynnston]

No point to have ALG then too annoying.


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Yeah, I leave it turned off when I am in the city. It's useful on long country drives (I do a lot).

[Buffy]

Hi all,

Has anyone here done a tune or chip to get rid of the lag in first gear. I test drove the new 206 R, but found the sluggishness from a standing start annoying coming from the V6. In fact after the test drive got back in mine and decided not to upgrade.

I understand turbo lag V NA, but with tuning can the sluggishness be removed?

Many thanks in advance.

[Jondalar]

Hi all,

Has anyone here done a tune or chip to get rid of the lag in first gear. I test drove the new 206 R, but found the sluggishness from a standing start annoying coming from the V6. In fact after the test drive got back in mine and decided not to upgrade.

I understand turbo lag V NA, but with tuning can the sluggishness be removed?

Many thanks in advance.
Slightly left field answer, but have you tried a Golf R wagon? I test drove one before getting my Alltrack and was very impressed, zero lag. Also tested an Arteon and while I loved the looks, could never live with the lag.

Cheers,
karl

[Wynnston]

Slightly left field answer, but have you tried a Golf R wagon? I test drove one before getting my Alltrack and was very impressed, zero lag. Also tested an Arteon and while I loved the looks, could never live with the lag.

Cheers,
karl

There is a VCDS "Hack" where you tell it that you have an Audi engine and it fixes it, but it also stuffs up the TCS/LC system and it goes a bit funny. A throttle controller like a sprint booster will fix it. The lag is deliberate for some stupid reason.

[DR074]

I have had the Audi hack and the XDS to increased traction hack for about a month now and have not seen any dramas. I don't get much lag now (if any at all), but the car was a bit laggy before the hacks.

I thought it would use more fuel, however fuel economy seems to be slightly better with these hacks in place. I can't confirm or deny the delta in my driving styles though, before and after hacks.

[Buffy]

Hi Wynnston,

How is driving the car without TCS? I am a bit worried about having that off.

DR074 did you do the hack? Has it disabled your TCS? Is it a simple 5 minute job just to plug in and change the code to Audi?

Thx

[zzc2010]

Hi Wynnston,

How is driving the car without TCS? I am a bit worried about having that off.

DR074 did you do the hack? Has it disabled your TCS?

Thx

Working normal after tuning the coding to Audi in Engine Section by OBDELEVEN

Nothing noticed with TC


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[DR074]

Hi Wynnston,

How is driving the car without TCS? I am a bit worried about having that off.

DR074 did you do the hack? Has it disabled your TCS? Is it a simple 5 minute job just to plug in and change the code to Audi?

Thx
Yep, did the Audi change, throttle response is better, noticeable difference. It didn't disable my TCS. I think what Wynnston is saying is, that because of the increase in throttle response, its easier to brake traction (wheel spin). The TCS doesn't take the Audi change into consideration and doesn't work as he expected. Wynnston, correct me if i'm wrong.

Personally, it works for me.

Yeah, 5 min job.

[Wynnston]

Hi Wynnston,

How is driving the car without TCS? I am a bit worried about having that off.

DR074 did you do the hack? Has it disabled your TCS? Is it a simple 5 minute job just to plug in and change the code to Audi?

Thx

It doesn't disable TCS, nor does it throw any faults on the car. I am just saying that the TCS system goes a little funny (yes I know, not scientific). I'm guessing its either because the Haldex isn't keeping up or that it's just not calibrated to the conditions (not as reactive as it should be). We got a spurt of wet days over here and I had a chance to run the car down the drag strip last wednesday (it wasn't wet that afternoon). The XDS adjustment might be the solution, but I'm a little apprehensive to go that far.

While I still have a lot of tread on my tyres, it is worth noting that they have 36k kms on them now, so slight changes in tyre wear might make it more noticeable.

[DR074]

I guess the good thing about the car, is that no matter your driving style or what sort of driving you are doing (Track, Drag strip, Highway or City driving), its pretty adjustable and gains in performance are obtainable.

[Buffy]

Thanks for the info guys.

Wynnston what times did you do for the 1/4 with the Audi hack?

Thanks

[Wynnston]

Thanks for the info guys.

Wynnston what times did you do for the 1/4 with the Audi hack?

Thanks

12.7 (Link Here) (http://dragtimes.com/Volkswagen-Passat-Timeslip-29854.html)

A lot of failed runs with LC with the Audi mode on, this was the best I could get.

[Pete the Pomme]

Can someone point me to a thread where there is a beginners guide to coding. I'm mainly looking for equipment and how the pricing structure works. I did a few searches but can't seem to find a guide.

[DR074]

There are a couple of ways of coding, VCP, VCDS and OBDEleven that I know of. I'm sure there are others.

I've been using OBDEleven and have used the below from DV52

OBDEleven - The new kid on the block! (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f153/obdeleven-new-kid-block-112163.html)

Also Home | OBDeleven (http://obdeleven.proboards.com/) may help as well.

I know nothing about VCP, so don't have any links.

RossTech have a good website that will help with the VCDS

Ross-Tech: Home (http://www.ross-tech.com/)

hope this helps

[FastGolfR]

Hi all,

Has anyone here done a tune or chip to get rid of the lag in first gear. I test drove the new 206 R, but found the sluggishness from a standing start annoying coming from the V6. In fact after the test drive got back in mine and decided not to upgrade.

I understand turbo lag V NA, but with tuning can the sluggishness be removed?

Many thanks in advance.

APR Sage 1 tune really improves this with huge gains in kW and Tq.
Recommended.

[Pete the Pomme]

There are a couple of ways of coding, VCP, VCDS and OBDEleven that I know of. I'm sure there are others.

I've been using OBDEleven and have used the below from DV52

OBDEleven - The new kid on the block! (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f153/obdeleven-new-kid-block-112163.html)

Also Home | OBDeleven (http://obdeleven.proboards.com/) may help as well.

I know nothing about VCP, so don't have any links.

RossTech have a good website that will help with the VCDS

Ross-Tech: Home (http://www.ross-tech.com/)

hope this helps

That's awesome, thank you :-D

[bigW]

Is the 206 sedan still available in Australia? The VW website shows the ‘build your own’ only in the wagon model, not the sedan

[zzc2010]

Is the 206 sedan still available in Australia? The VW website shows the ‘build your own’ only in the wagon model, not the sedan

Remembering someone talked about it before.

No sedan 206 anymore.


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[doc_777]

R line 206 sedan is still listed in the ‘models’ page. Not being able to use the build page could be an IT issue, or it could mean they haven’t decided on specs moving forward past current stock on hand.

[bigW]

Just confirmed via the dealer this morning- VW have canned all diesels, and they are still making the 206 wagons and not the sedans (being ‘replaced’ by the Arteon).
Dealer reckons the Passat 206 sedan will hold its value anyway as they are specced in a similar way to the Arteon (apart from the polarising looks and the 7 not 6 speed) and about $10k cheaper

[Jimi]

Does that coincide with any MY changes that the dealer would know of?

[Jondalar]

bigW the VWA website still let's you build a diesel of every model that previously had a diesel, seems a bit dubious if you ask me... Having test driven an Arteon I don't see it as a Passat replacement, it's far less practical for starters.

[limiteded]

Just confirmed with mascot dealer, 140tdi highlines are discontinued for the Australian market. Unsure as to whether it's vw Aust decision or a manufacturing issue in Germany.

Passat alltracks are not discontinued.

maybe the spec and options will change for the 132tsi s and alltrack slightly, but limited info as of yet.

i will say I am aware That the entire Passat family is to be solely produced at the emden plant, as opposed to also Wolfsburg/ other plant in Germany as currently is. Correct me if I'm wrong.
this is a part of the production strategy for plant utilisation in Germany

[Rocket36]

The Europeans are turning against diesel technology, sadly. Nice to know I have the last model of something (That's never happened to me with a car. :D) and will be doing my 1200km a tank on cheaper fuel for many years to come.

[limiteded]

Looking further into it, I found on the German and uk vw configure pages, the 140tdi is available as a 4motion only, not front wheel drive,
for the Passat sedan, wagon, and Arteon.

previously it was available as fwd or 4wd in these markets

so it seems the 140tdi has now become a 4motion 7 speed option only. Thus discontinuation of the fwd 140tdi highline for Australia

[Just_Westy]

The Europeans are turning against diesel technology, sadly. Nice to know I have the last model of something (That's never happened to me with a car. :D) and will be doing my 1200km a tank on cheaper fuel for many years to come.
Volkswagen have just committed $48b for battery contracts for EV's. Given we are about to be overrun by them it makes sense for manufacturers to start trimming their ICE stable. I am sure my next new car will be an EV.

[Jondalar]

Just confirmed with mascot dealer, 140tdi highlines are discontinued for the Australian market. Unsure as to whether it's vw Aust decision or a manufacturing issue in Germany.

Passat alltracks are not discontinued.

maybe the spec and options will change for the 132tsi s and alltrack slightly, but limited info as of yet.

i will say I am aware That the entire Passat family is to be solely produced at the emden plant, as opposed to also Wolfsburg/ other plant in Germany as currently is. Correct me if I'm wrong.
this is a part of the production strategy for plant utilisation in Germany
I suspect this is due to the DQ380 7 speed for FWD not being up to the torque from the 140TDI, see the manufacturers specs Our Products | Volkswagen Automatic Transmission Tianjin (http://vwatj.com/en/products) , so rather than detune the torque a little they have discontinued FWD 140TDI for now...

[Flashheart]

Volkswagen Passat 206TSI sedan axed | CarAdvice (https://www.caradvice.com.au/650299/volkswagen-passat-206tsi-sedan-axed/)

I’m so glad I got in when I did and bought my 206 TSI Sedan. Interesting to read that it’s not just Australia, it’s discontinued in Germany also.

[DR074]

Same here, this is terrible news. I don't want a wagon. I don't want an SUV. I also don't want a ute. Well I do, but can't justify it.

[bigW]

So it would seem I got one of the last... manufactured in Oct' 17 made compliant in 2018 so I have a 2018 Volkswagen Passat 206TSi MY18 Sedan and I'm pretty pleased about it! And still happy about the fact I didn't get a Skoda like some wanted me too.

I realise this thread is now 70 pages long so apologies if it's been posted before or in another area, however has anyone considered removing the 2.0TSi badges and just leaving the 'Passat' on the left and the '4motion' on the right?

[Pete the Pomme]

First thing I did when I got home with my 206 was remove the essay of badges on the right and just left the Passat. I've now removed that too so it's totally debadged. I'm planning to go stage 1 with it soon so I may put an R badge on the left after that

[Jimi]

I think VW agree and from MY18.5 there are fewer badges

[Wynnston]

First thing I did when I got home with my 206 was remove the essay of badges on the right and just left the Passat. I've now removed that too so it's totally debadged. I'm planning to go stage 1 with it soon so I may put an R badge on the left after that

I did exactly the same on mine. No PASSAT or 2.0TSI 4Motion blah de blah on the back. Clean, white and just the VW badge.

[kamold]

I did exactly the same on mine. No PASSAT or 2.0TSI 4Motion blah de blah on the back. Clean, white and just the VW badge.Should put a bowtie on the front ;)

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[Frag]

Hello all, I have just bought a Passat R Line MY17 with low KM's (Ex Melbourne). I am coming from a MY17 Ecoboost Mustang (full bolt on, ~295KW). Unortunately I had my Mustang written off and decided to go a little more family friendly but not SUV as I am over 4x4's etc having done 10+ years driving Landcruisers/Hiluxes/Rangers.

Anyway I hopefully get the vehicle in a few weeks, so starting to think about doing a couple minor mods but really having a difficult time to find any aftermarket parts for it or infact any good info sources. I haven't scoured this thread yet as I'm hoping there may be a good repository of info I am missing. At this stage I will either add in a drop in filter (K&N) or full intake and was looking into perhaps aftermarket intercooler to combat the aussie summers? If anyone has any suggestions etc? Not looking to make a race car but I know that there is a bit of performance left on the table with these cars as they are 220W in EU spec so not sure why detuned but I would probably think due to the Aussie heat conditions.

Thank you for any suggestions tips?

[kamold]

Hello all, I have just bought a Passat R Line MY17 with low KM's (Ex Melbourne). I am coming from a MY17 Ecoboost Mustang (full bolt on, ~295KW). Unortunately I had my Mustang written off and decided to go a little more family friendly but not SUV as I am over 4x4's etc having done 10+ years driving Landcruisers/Hiluxes/Rangers.

Anyway I hopefully get the vehicle in a few weeks, so starting to think about doing a couple minor mods but really having a difficult time to find any aftermarket parts for it or infact any good info sources. I haven't scoured this thread yet as I'm hoping there may be a good repository of info I am missing. At this stage I will either add in a drop in filter (K&N) or full intake and was looking into perhaps aftermarket intercooler to combat the aussie summers? If anyone has any suggestions etc? Not looking to make a race car but I know that there is a bit of performance left on the table with these cars as they are 220W in EU spec so not sure why detuned but I would probably think due to the Aussie heat conditions.

Thank you for any suggestions tips?Start with an ecu tune.
Best bang for your buck.
Then see how you go from there plenty of options.

[Frag]

Start with an ecu tune.
Best bang for your buck.
Then see how you go from there plenty of options.

So you mean a JB1 or JB4? Any local sites you would suggest looking at, my google fu is letting me down with what I am finding so far.

[kamold]

They are an option as are direct ecu tunes like APR, Revo, Etuners, Racing line etc
So you mean a JB1 or JB4? Any local sites you would suggest looking at, my google fu is letting me down with what I am finding so far.

[Frag]

Thanks, is there a good resource on these? From what I can work out the JB1 etc is a simple piggyback to trick into more boost, the others would be a complete rewrite of ecu yeah? I'll google around, I see your octavia has a Revo and I have seen the APR pop up a fair bit from tid bits I can find.

Are they easy to remove prior to service and reapply (ala Cobb style)

[kamold]

Yes piggyback tunes trick the ecu by modifying the data from sensors.
Physically removable however these days they are still detectable by the dealer software given how they have pushed the ecu outside of its expected parameters.

A full remap tune where the ecu map is rewritten is arguably a more complete approach to performance as it is working with the actual sensors inputs but modifying the ecu outputs.

Any big name tuner will give you great results.
Your best bet is to use a supplier that has a local presence and support.

Either piggyback or ecu remap will likely trigger a flag at the dealer so it's up to you if you want to take that on.

[Frag]

Yes piggyback tunes trick the ecu by modifying the data from sensors.
Physically removable however these days they are still detectable by the dealer software given how they have pushed the ecu outside of its expected parameters.

A full remap tune where the ecu map is rewritten is arguably a more complete approach to performance as it is working with the actual sensors inputs but modifying the ecu outputs.

Any big name tuner will give you great results.
Your best bet is to use a supplier that has a local presence and support.

Either piggyback or ecu remap will likely trigger a flag at the dealer so it's up to you if you want to take that on.

Thanks, I found a local dealer "EuroCare" for APR (and others) so will have a chat. I intend to keep the VW for 3-4 years so dont want to go nuts but I know the engine has been tuned different for the Passat vs the Golf R (as well I assume the DGS) so will just see. My Ecoboost had the full treatment FMIC, Intake, Sparks, Catch Can, Cat Back, Cobb AP, Pro Tune etc etc.. I dont want to go quite that far this time but yeah wouldnt mind just getting a little more response - in the end I havent even driven a Passat R line, but bought it after driving the 206 Skoda Superb Sportswagon. While the thing was very brisk it did have a significant lag from WOT to actual car moving (felt like a good 1-1.5 seconds).

Unfortunately these cars are rare in Perth and the pricing is shocking, so was cheaper to buy ex Melb. I sat in a R Line at a local dealer and pulled the trigger thinking the drive will be similar/better than the MY16 Sportswagon i drove..

Anyway, thanks for the help - I'll chat to the guys/gals at EuroCare here in Perth and take it from there based on their recommendations. Its meant as a Dad wagon but its going to be hard to go to something slow after the Mustang haha..

I guess I always want to talk to people with experience first so when i do talk to a pro I know when they try and sell you special sauce that isn't so special.. Likewise I am getting ready to hear stupid costs involved as opposed to having done everything on my previous car myself (I paid under 3k, vs 9k through local "workshop" for lower level mods!!!)

[kamold]

Thanks, I found a local dealer "EuroCare" for APR (and others) so will have a chat. I intend to keep the VW for 3-4 years so dont want to go nuts but I know the engine has been tuned different for the Passat vs the Golf R (as well I assume the DGS) so will just see. My Ecoboost had the full treatment FMIC, Intake, Sparks, Catch Can, Cat Back, Cobb AP, Pro Tune etc etc.. I dont want to go quite that far this time but yeah wouldnt mind just getting a little more response - in the end I havent even driven a Passat R line, but bought it after driving the 206 Skoda Superb Sportswagon. While the thing was very brisk it did have a significant lag from WOT to actual car moving (felt like a good 1-1.5 seconds).

Unfortunately these cars are rare in Perth and the pricing is shocking, so was cheaper to buy ex Melb. I sat in a R Line at a local dealer and pulled the trigger thinking the drive will be similar/better than the MY16 Sportswagon i drove..

Anyway, thanks for the help - I'll chat to the guys/gals at EuroCare here in Perth and take it from there based on their recommendations. Its meant as a Dad wagon but its going to be hard to go to something slow after the Mustang haha..

I guess I always want to talk to people with experience first so when i do talk to a pro I know when they try and sell you special sauce that isn't so special.. Likewise I am getting ready to hear stupid costs involved as opposed to having done everything on my previous car myself (I paid under 3k, vs 9k through local "workshop" for lower level mods!!!)For under $1300 you will get a lot more smile on your dial with a reputable ecu tune.
Drive it stock for at least a few weeks so you get to appreciate how much they are being back in stock form...

[kamold]

I had an APR tune in my A3 2.0tfsi Quattro.
Very similar to your Passat R in most respects except a bit of weight.
Made it an awesome little car.

[Frag]

For under $1300 you will get a lot more smile on your dial with a reputable ecu tune.
Drive it stock for at least a few weeks so you get to appreciate how much they are being back in stock form...
Yeah I will definitely drive it for a little to get a feel first, might even enjoy the "sedate" drive stock :)

$1300 for a ECU tune? You're kidding right? I presume that is at least a complete Dyno tune sessions and transmission tune then right?

If thats for just an OTS ECU reload that is laughably expensive!

[kamold]

Yeah I will definitely drive it for a little to get a feel first, might even enjoy the "sedate" drive stock :)

$1300 for a ECU tune? You're kidding right? I presume that is at least a complete Dyno tune sessions and transmission tune then right?

If thats for just an OTS ECU reload that is laughably expensive!

I've said 'under' as I'm not up to date with current prices. I'm sure you can do some local research...

[Frag]

I have emailed local specialist but from my readings it looks like it may be around that money, thats just drug money for effectively an OTS map upgrade which would simply change some boost, ignition timing etc targets.

[el1x]

Frag, as a fellow 206 owner in Perth I know there are quite a few tuners here.
Racing Dynamics, Ramp Auto, Pace Auto Werks just to name a few.
Have a chat to some of them to get an idea of what you want and what they can do for you.

[bombsquad21]

I only found out this car existed last night and test drove it this morning, fairly impressed! I still drive my Tsi Amarok with 190kw and APR tune (for sale everyone!) and with MY17 206tsi demo sedans so cheap what's not to like? Would I be missing much by picking a 2017 Demo over the last of MY18's? Either way my dealer is ready to deal!!

[DR074]

I only found out this car existed last night and test drove it this morning, fairly impressed! I still drive my Tsi Amarok with 190kw and APR tune (for sale everyone!) and with MY17 206tsi demo sedans so cheap what's not to like? Would I be missing much by picking a 2017 Demo over the last of MY18's? Either way my dealer is ready to deal!!

Hi Mate

I have nothing but praise for the MY17 206 TSI, great weapon. I could be wrong, but only delta I see, is the new MMI. From what I hear though, the MMI is very sensitive. When you fart, the MMI changes station. The Discover Pro in the MY17 is really good. Everything else seems the same, may get proven wrong.

You could probably pick up a Demo now for about $45k - $50k with about 1500 to 5000 kms, just guessing.

Dazz

[Frag]

Well I got a unbeatable deal on a brand new one, worked out very close to repayments on the used one so no brainer for me. Now have to wait for 2-3 weeks while it makes its way to WA. 2018 MY18. Can't wait!

Bombsquad - You get an updated Discovery pro Infotainment which really looks impressive compared to the old one, mainly the screen is not matt and colour is better. Functionality wise not much different other than I think DAB radio but thats moot with Android/Apple anyway and maybe traffic assist or some such. Also I think there is an easy in/out for seats where they move into position after you enter the car etc.. but not sure on that one as i havent driven a my17 or a my18 just sat in :P

But yeah I got a deal that was too good to refuse locally so had to go for it :)


I've said 'under' as I'm not up to date with current prices. I'm sure you can do some local research...

Well I got a quote $17xx -15% so lets say 1400.. hahaha you have to be f**king kidding me.. a OTS ecu remap for $1400.. I don't know what crack people smoke these days and hey clearly some spend that money but that was an OTS retune.. ie they spend 15 mins backing up your ECu and loading new values. How the hell do you justify that much.

My previous car had a Cobb AP which came with the OTS maps which was $600 and that was with me for life, heck I just sold it for $400. I also spent $500 on a protune which turned the car into a monster but that was completely done for my car / mods / engine. Anyway I wont go down the APR road, I dont mind spending money but I dont enjoy getting something from behind.

Oh well stock it will stay!

[lenny]

Well I got a unbeatable deal on a brand new one, worked out very close to repayments on the used one so no brainer for me. Now have to wait for 2-3 weeks while it makes its way to WA. 2018 MY18. Can't wait!

Bombsquad - You get an updated Discovery pro Infotainment which really looks impressive compared to the old one, mainly the screen is not matt and colour is better. Functionality wise not much different other than I think DAB radio but thats moot with Android/Apple anyway and maybe traffic assist or some such. Also I think there is an easy in/out for seats where they move into position after you enter the car etc.. but not sure on that one as i havent driven a my17 or a my18 just sat in :P

But yeah I got a deal that was too good to refuse locally so had to go for it :)



Well I got a quote $17xx -15% so lets say 1400.. hahaha you have to be f**king kidding me.. a OTS ecu remap for $1400.. I don't know what crack people smoke these days and hey clearly some spend that money but that was an OTS retune.. ie they spend 15 mins backing up your ECu and loading new values. How the hell do you justify that much.

My previous car had a Cobb AP which came with the OTS maps which was $600 and that was with me for life, heck I just sold it for $400. I also spent $500 on a protune which turned the car into a monster but that was completely done for my car / mods / engine. Anyway I wont go down the APR road, I dont mind spending money but I dont enjoy getting something from behind.

Oh well stock it will stay!

Would not this be what you are talking about (re Cobb AP).?

COBB Tuning - Volkswagen Accessport V3 Golf R (Mk7) 2015-2018 USDM (https://www.cobbtuning.com/products/accessport/volkswagen-accessport-v3-golf-r-mk7-2015-2018-usdm)

yep it is for MK7 Golf....but same engine>?

[Frag]

Would not this be what you are talking about (re Cobb AP).?

COBB Tuning - Volkswagen Accessport V3 Golf R (Mk7) 2015-2018 USDM (https://www.cobbtuning.com/products/accessport/volkswagen-accessport-v3-golf-r-mk7-2015-2018-usdm)

yep it is for MK7 Golf....but same engine>?
Yeah thats the USDM golf, I have already queried COBB about a AUDM Passat and yet to hear back. The cobb on my previous car could do everything in terms of tune including the transmission if you had auto. You could then get it properly dialed in on a dyno or do some WOT pulls and back and forth to get an eTune (which is what I had). That way it was fully customised to the vehicle and level of mods you had. Also had maps for different fuel quality.. I had performance 98, performance 95 and an eco tune if I wanted the fuel on long drive.

Also had the unit hooked up so I can watch all the important engine info - ignition corrections, timing, boost, charge temps etc. Anyway wish Cobb would do the AUDM Passat, maybe they can as you say same engine so I would hazard a guess that its the same interface/controls in the ECU so should be an easy fix.

[Wynnston]

Well I got a unbeatable deal on a brand new one, worked out very close to repayments on the used one so no brainer for me. Now have to wait for 2-3 weeks while it makes its way to WA. 2018 MY18. Can't wait!

Bombsquad - You get an updated Discovery pro Infotainment which really looks impressive compared to the old one, mainly the screen is not matt and colour is better. Functionality wise not much different other than I think DAB radio but thats moot with Android/Apple anyway and maybe traffic assist or some such. Also I think there is an easy in/out for seats where they move into position after you enter the car etc.. but not sure on that one as i havent driven a my17 or a my18 just sat in :P

But yeah I got a deal that was too good to refuse locally so had to go for it :)



Well I got a quote $17xx -15% so lets say 1400.. hahaha you have to be f**king kidding me.. a OTS ecu remap for $1400.. I don't know what crack people smoke these days and hey clearly some spend that money but that was an OTS retune.. ie they spend 15 mins backing up your ECu and loading new values. How the hell do you justify that much.

My previous car had a Cobb AP which came with the OTS maps which was $600 and that was with me for life, heck I just sold it for $400. I also spent $500 on a protune which turned the car into a monster but that was completely done for my car / mods / engine. Anyway I wont go down the APR road, I dont mind spending money but I dont enjoy getting something from behind.

Oh well stock it will stay!

Welcome. Another 206 owner in Perth here (White Sedan). I got the first one in Perth. It's still going well and I've been pretty happy with it (even after hitting a Kangaroo 4 weeks after getting it). El1x and I regularly attend Cars and Coffee 8:30am Saturday @ Elixir Nedlands (thought I am away for the next 5 weeks). If you're ever free then come down, lots of VW owners with plenty of tips.

[Frag]

Welcome. Another 206 owner in Perth here (White Sedan). I got the first one in Perth. It's still going well and I've been pretty happy with it (even after hitting a Kangaroo 4 weeks after getting it). El1x and I regularly attend Cars and Coffee 8:30am Saturday @ Elixir Nedlands (thought I am away for the next 5 weeks). If you're ever free then come down, lots of VW owners with plenty of tips.
I'll have to come down one time, I pick mine up next week sometime so will get tinting done and look at film protection on the front and some paint protection (AutoFX WA) then start thinking if I do any more haha :) Looking forward to getting out of the damn hire car I am in that is for sure.

[7R]

Hey folks

I am looking for a 206 wagon or a Alltrack WBE... is there a directory of best prices or people recommend a good dealer in Sydney/surrounds? Need to sell my Golf R as the time has come for something bigger.

thanks.

[Frag]

Hey folks

I am looking for a 206 wagon or a Alltrack WBE... is there a directory of best prices or people recommend a good dealer in Sydney/surrounds? Need to sell my Golf R as the time has come for something bigger.

thanks.
I managed to get a new white R line wagon for 58k drive away, was pretty happy with the deal esp for Perth as it was shipped from Melb. Very happy with the car as well, very very different to my previous car but amazed at how well it drives and handles.

[Wynnston]

I managed to get a new white R line wagon for 58k drive away, was pretty happy with the deal esp for Perth as it was shipped from Melb. Very happy with the car as well, very very different to my previous car but amazed at how well it drives and handles.

We have a bit of a Volkswagen cruise on towards the end of September. Another new 206 Wagon owner will be on the cruise. Maybe another 206 wagon as well as my sedan. Feel free to join Perth VW Group on facebook, or send me a DM with your facebook id and i'll chuck you an invite. This forum is great for VW enthusiasts and Passat info, but the VW Perth Group on FB is good for local knowledge etc.

[7R]

I managed to get a new white R line wagon for 58k drive away, was pretty happy with the deal esp for Perth as it was shipped from Melb. Very happy with the car as well, very very different to my previous car but amazed at how well it drives and handles.

excellent price - thanks for letting me know.

[strats101]

Hey folks

I am looking for a 206 wagon or a Alltrack WBE... is there a directory of best prices or people recommend a good dealer in Sydney/surrounds? Need to sell my Golf R as the time has come for something bigger.

thanks.

Hi 7R,

I have a 206 wagon for sale - happy for you to contact me re this if you are still looking.

Cheers,

[stinx2001]

Hi all, newbie here and just ordered a 206tsi wagon in white. Will get it in about 2 weeks, beyond excited right now. My first new car and the most sporty since I sold my Integra 8 years ago! Paid just under 60k with sunroof if anyone's interested.

Can't wait to get it!

[Wynnston]

Hi all, newbie here and just ordered a 206tsi wagon in white. Will get it in about 2 weeks, beyond excited right now. My first new car and the most sporty since I sold my Integra 8 years ago! Paid just under 60k with sunroof if anyone's interested.

Can't wait to get it!

Congratulations. Enjoy!

[Goublin]

Hi all, newbie here and just ordered a 206tsi wagon in white. Will get it in about 2 weeks, beyond excited right now. My first new car and the most sporty since I sold my Integra 8 years ago! Paid just under 60k with sunroof if anyone's interested.

Can't wait to get it!

enjoy bud, they are a cracking car

[Vw4life]

Hi all,
I have just bought a 2017 Passat 206tsi sedan with 9700kms on the clock for $44,000. I take delivery on Monday! Can’t wait!!!

[Wynnston]

Hi all,
I have just bought a 2017 Passat 206tsi sedan with 9700kms on the clock for $44,000. I take delivery on Monday! Can’t wait!!!

Nice work and good deal!

[Rooboy]

Interesting - it looks like Vic Pol have a 206 wagon as a marked patrol car. Just saw it in the Pascoe Vale area.

[Wynnston]

Interesting - it looks like Vic Pol have a 206 wagon as a marked patrol car. Just saw it in the Pascoe Vale area.

They had around 10 on a trial basis but I didn't think they were all marked up, perhaps they decided to go ahead with a few.

[stinx2001]

Great, now I'll look like a cop!

[Rooboy]

Great, now I'll look like a cop!

:laugh:

[206er]

Hey all, speaking of Passat cop cars, ACT police have announced they're switching to 206TSI's too!
Back in black as ACT police switch to turbocharged German wagons (https://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/act/back-in-black-as-act-police-switch-to-turbocharged-german-wagons-20181227-p50oeq.html)

Also saw this article recently mentioning "a rumoured Passat R (https://www.caradvice.com.au/tag/volkswagen-passat-r/) performance flagship powered by a new turbocharged V6." That would be awesome, does anyone know any more goss?
2019 Volkswagen Passat Wagon spied | CarAdvice (https://www.caradvice.com.au/708761/2019-volkswagen-passat-wagon-spied/)

[XM640]

Howdy all, a VW newbie here. Just ordered a MY19 Passat 206TSI wagon in white ... no sunroof but with towbar which just shows where my current priorities are at :eek:

Am looking fwd to getting back into a 'car' after 6 years with a SUV (do recommend the Q5 tho).

VW have just announced drive-away deals on most of there range. But a couple dealers have told me that current stock of (MY19) 206TSI's are nearly exhausted (only 7 left when I ordered, white and most with 'roof). Apparently Police orders have taken a lot of stock with no more expected until MY20 later in the year.

[FooJoo]

Hey all, also a newbie to the site.

Last week I upgraded to a MY19 Passat 206TSI wagon after my mk6 GTI was stolen, had that for about 7 years - fantastic car.

Upon picking up the car the dealer unfortunatley advised that they found an intermittent fault with the instrument cluster which could not be fixed with a re-programming, a new part had to be ordered from Germany (approx 10days). My wife and I were not complacent with this being a brand new car etc so we reqested a different one.

While waiting for the new Passat I loaned a Tiguan 162TSI which grew on me after a few days - the space and comfort mainly, engine could do with a bit more oomph (a 206TSI if you will).

I've picked up my new passat and been driving it for over a week now and very happy with it overall.

Likes (apart from the obvious)
1. TSI badge removed from rear boot, not sure about MY18 as I test drove an MY17.
2. Blind spot detection lights located on the inside of the side mirror casing making indication very clear

Minor inconveniences
1. Phone compartment in front console is a little too small for note5 samsung phone
2. Around 35km/h and above, while in sports mode you can hear a very sublte resonating/vibrating noise, I have not yet tracked it down but only noticable in dead quite atmospheres.
3. Rear seat a bit small for 3 baby or booster seats (3rd kid on the way).

Considering adding APR Stage 1 or similar in the near future - will be keen to know if anyone has added it on a current 206 Passat.

Cheers.

[Wynnston]

Hey all, also a newbie to the site.

Last week I upgraded to a MY19 Passat 206TSI wagon after my mk6 GTI was stolen, had that for about 7 years - fantastic car.

Upon picking up the car the dealer unfortunatley advised that they found an intermittent fault with the instrument cluster which could not be fixed with a re-programming, a new part had to be ordered from Germany (approx 10days). My wife and I were not complacent with this being a brand new car etc so we reqested a different one.

While waiting for the new Passat I loaned a Tiguan 162TSI which grew on me after a few days - the space and comfort mainly, engine could do with a bit more oomph (a 206TSI if you will).

I've picked up my new passat and been driving it for over a week now and very happy with it overall.

Likes (apart from the obvious)
1. TSI badge removed from rear boot, not sure about MY18 as I test drove an MY17.
2. Blind spot detection lights located on the inside of the side mirror casing making indication very clear

Minor inconveniences
1. Phone compartment in front console is a little too small for note5 samsung phone
2. Around 35km/h and above, while in sports mode you can hear a very sublte resonating/vibrating noise, I have not yet tracked it down but only noticable in dead quite atmospheres.
3. Rear seat a bit small for 3 baby or booster seats (3rd kid on the way).

Considering adding APR Stage 1 or similar in the near future - will be keen to know if anyone has added it on a current 206 Passat.

Cheers.

Welcome.

If the rattle sounds like it's coming from the engine/exhaust then it might be wastegate rattle. VW are a little hit and miss and have never opted to fix it, given it only happens in a few cases they opt to repair it with a clip if it's bad.

As for the tune, you will void your drive train warranty, so keep that in mind. I'd recommend Spectune (what I have) or eTuners (what other people have recommended). The only APR tuned Passat 206's that I've heard of have blown the turbo (might just be a luck thing, but it could also be related to the tune), I've had APR in the past and have been super impressed (on a Tiguan) but it might be a case of them treating the Passat 206 like a Golf R, while the running gear is similar, the ECU parameters and methods for tuning are quite different, which means other things might be a little different.

[kaitan]

Welcome.

If the rattle sounds like it's coming from the engine/exhaust then it might be wastegate rattle. VW are a little hit and miss and have never opted to fix it, given it only happens in a few cases they opt to repair it with a clip if it's bad.

As for the tune, you will void your drive train warranty, so keep that in mind. I'd recommend Spectune (what I have) or eTuners (what other people have recommended). The only APR tuned Passat 206's that I've heard of have blown the turbo (might just be a luck thing, but it could also be related to the tune), I've had APR in the past and have been super impressed (on a Tiguan) but it might be a case of them treating the Passat 206 like a Golf R, while the running gear is similar, the ECU parameters and methods for tuning are quite different, which means other things might be a little different.

hi interesting that you say APR might have tune it like a golf R which is somewhat identical but I still believe a company like APR shouldn’t make that kind of rookie mistake, would that ?

Any im a long time lurker, what do you think the current market for a Passat sits? Understand sedan and wagon is about different. What thing to know for a 206TSI. Would Redbook value is realistic for 2016 model?

[Wynnston]

hi interesting that you say APR might have tune it like a golf R which is somewhat identical but I still believe a company like APR shouldn’t make that kind of rookie mistake, would that ?

Any im a long time lurker, what do you think the current market for a Passat sits? Understand sedan and wagon is about different. What thing to know for a 206TSI. Would Redbook value is realistic for 2016 model?

Not entirely sure on the APR front. Keep in mind that they'd have to rely on cars in other markets for testing. APR is a US based company and the B8 206 is not available in the NAR market. 35-40k is probably realistic for a mid km 206 IMO.

[kaitan]

Not entirely sure on the APR front. Keep in mind that they'd have to rely on cars in other markets for testing. APR is a US based company and the B8 206 is not available in the NAR market. 35-40k is probably realistic for a mid km 206 IMO.

Most are asking for 42-46k for a 15-30k mileage.

[FooJoo]

Welcome.

If the rattle sounds like it's coming from the engine/exhaust then it might be wastegate rattle. VW are a little hit and miss and have never opted to fix it, given it only happens in a few cases they opt to repair it with a clip if it's bad.

As for the tune, you will void your drive train warranty, so keep that in mind. I'd recommend Spectune (what I have) or eTuners (what other people have recommended). The only APR tuned Passat 206's that I've heard of have blown the turbo (might just be a luck thing, but it could also be related to the tune), I've had APR in the past and have been super impressed (on a Tiguan) but it might be a case of them treating the Passat 206 like a Golf R, while the running gear is similar, the ECU parameters and methods for tuning are quite different, which means other things might be a little different.

Thanks for the info. I had the wastegate issue on my GTI, this is definetely different and more of a resonating sound, will try and hone in on it this weekend.

Could you share more info on the Spectune you had done on your car or point me in the right direction? Was your tune on a recent Passat?

Cheers

[XM640]

Hi all

love the forum and the many learned contributors. After a couple of Audi's, thought I'd post some impressions of my new MY19 Passat 206Tsi Wagon given I have had it for a few months now. For this I have plagiarised a format adopted in a similar Arteon thread.

Would you do it again?

Probably but would now wait for the MY20 update coming in November.

Do you look at another car with regret?

I will always lust after new Audi's ... but just did not want to fork out the extra $ this time around.

Do you look at another car with relief?

I shopped the 206Tsi against Mazda 6 Atenza Wagon with Turbo engine. The Mazda is a good product but just isn't a sporting drive.

Loves?

The technology. Particularly the TFT dash display, Discover Pro HMI, ACC adjustable suspension and the various safety systems.
The drive. For what it is, it handles well but can also be comfortable. The engine is smooth, economical and likes to rev. And the 6 spd DCT steps off well and works better in traffic than expected.
The quality. Almost Audi quality of materials and design but without the cost. Body feels strong with a solid 'thunk' to doors.
The space. Plenty of room from front to back.
It's not a SUV. Cause there are just too many on the road.

Hates? (... more annoyances actually).

Audio system. Can get standard setup sounding ok but the Dynaudio upgrade should have been available as an option.
The seats. They look great with lots of adjustment, but the numb bum sets in after a couple hours.
The quality. Not quite Audi with a few vibes, buzzes and fizzes already from the interior and drive-line.
The drive. It is eager but not quite as quick as expected given it has Golf R derived drive-line. Sport in DCT is useless and now wish it had the coming 7 spd.
The wheels. Verona design is too conservative and a total bugger to clean.
Auto engine stop. Too eager and kills the engine before car has stopped. I switch it off and shift to N for extended red light stops.

Overall I'm enjoying it and think the Passat is somewhat underrated in it's class.

[kamold]

Thanks for the write up.

Could suggest that some of your bugbears could be fairly easily addressed:
Performance could be easily improved with an ecu tune.
Likewise transmission performance.
Stop start can be easily disabled using vcds or obd11.

[Big_Jase]

Welcome.

Long time watcher, not too many posts.

My dad has Passat (sedan) 206 TSI and after about a year took it to an APR Stage 1 tune. He also has a pedal box attached as well.

The car is a rocket and goes well, and the pedal box can give it that responsiveness of the line with it turned up onto a more aggressive mode. I asked him if he was going to take it to a Stage 2 and he said that our local APR tuner (have known for quite some years now) said not to go to Stage 2 for his Passat. I had the feeling for reliability / turbo issues.

I have had a MKVI GTI and Jetta and have taken both to APR Stage 2 with no problems (except coil packs on the Jetta). I don't have the spare cash at the moment, also only 6 months into a 5 year warranty on my R wagon to go there so am just holding off. I also have a bike which is my primary transport so I don't see the point in modding the wagon as I only usually drive it once, maybe twice a week.

Thanks,

[green_comet]

Hey guys, the misses and I have been looking at getting a second hand low km Passat/Skoda 206tsi wagon over the last few months. This Passat popped up for sale a couple days back, had a look at it last night and it's spotless inside and out, it drove great, no rattles or anything, I couldn't pick fault with it.

Just wanted to know if there's anything specific I should be checking out before biting the bullet? I'm going back tonight to look at it again and with intentions to leave a deposit. I've read the sunroofs can rattle and be noisy, but is there anything else?