TSI squeal noise problem on acceleration

[hkogti]

I got some similar noise, took 2 months for the parts to come in...

Apparantly it is a part in the DSG failed...

[cktsi]

I haven't heard of a manual TSI 118 with this is issue......is this only a known problem with just the DSG?

OK, took it into Five Dock. They said it's a known problem on the tech bulletin and no fix for it. Apparently there's a butterfly flap for the induction tube going into the supercharger that makes the squeaky noise.

Supposedly VW Australia have instructed the workshops they will not pay the workshop to rectify this as a warranty fix.... so sounds like I have to write to VW Australia about this - and I will.

My angle is that if the cause is the butterfly flap, I want it replaced.

Straight afterwards I walked to the front of the building to the sales area & asked to test drive a 118TSI DSG demo car with more than 2,000km on the odo. I was taken for a drive with one more than 3,000. Sure enough, the squeak is also there.

The squeak required more provocation on this car than in mine to produce the squeak.

OX518... looks like you will probably have this same issue in some form & anyone else out there looking for a 118TSI.

As to the question on whether this appears in the manual - make take on this is it is likely to be there. However, having driven manuals for years (this DSG is first time I've owned an auto shifter), I know that manual drivers probably allow for more revs before changing to a higher gear thereby reducing the chance of a sudden load requirement on the supercharger. The takeup of the clutch engagement in manuals will be a lot smoother & more gradual than in the DSG.

So outwardly I'm thinking manual drivers will not see this issue as much. However, if they floor it while already in gear at below 3,300rpm, they probably will be able to reproduce the squeak.

DSG owners will see this because the gear change whilst smooth, is more 'sudden'. Also the DSG enjoys putting more load on the supercharger at lower revs (compared to my manual style of shifting which allows more revs before a gear change).

My tip for those with new 118TSI's is to run the car in very gently. Unfortunately I went with the philosophy of allowing more revs & trying to teach the DSG gearbox to change gears aggressively... don't force the car.

The other thing is if I shift the gears manually in the DSG, in ordinary driving I don't get the squeak. I only get it in sudden acceleration when driving in a sporty mode or if I leave the DSG in "Drive" when it rushes to 7th gear (it "struggles" in 6th & 7th gear).

[guliver_twist]

i drive a manual and it has the noise...
I dont think it is transmission related..
lets hope vw comes up with a fix.. it is a bit of a let down since the car is otherwise exceptionally quiet.
i shift around 2k-2.5k so high reving manual driver thing is not logical.

[dopey]

Sounds like a bloody HKS SSQV Blow-off valve in the videos!! VW have been watching too much The Fast & The Furious.

Well, there's one solution in the meantime. Turn up the music.

[MorganTSI118]

I have just discovered my car has started to do that annoying 'eek' sound. I have now done around 5000km in my TSI 118 DSG but I am unsure of when it actually started. It is starting to drive me mad!!!

I really hope someone finds out what is going on with the cars and a decent long lasting solution!

[Prawn07]

TSI118 DSG, developed same squeal noise at 1400km. Its irritating! Maybe I should have got the turbo diesel instead. I bet this is the only car in the world that makes this sound!

Took it to VW Chatswood, got similar response, no fix yet, VW are working on it, & asked me to get an update at my next service. I've asked them to ring the Wangara boys because they claim to have a solution.

I hope this is fixed for good in the next 6 months.

[Tommy]

Hi Folks

I've been reading with great interest your replies. My car developed the chirp at about 1500kms and VW says that this is normal and is a "characteristic" of the car. Pig's bum its normal. Its driving me nuts and they are refusing to fix it.

I have also had major issues with my brakes and the pedal assembly, booster/servos and electronics were replaced because there was a loud repetitive donging noise and vibration through the pedal. A couple of days later the noise came back so the whole job had to be done again.

The window wipers were shocking dragging across the glass and the whole assembly was replaced in about the 3rd week I had the car.

My car had a loud ticking noise from the B pillars which VW didn't know how to explain or fix until this week. They removed the doors and windows on my car to see if they could track down the noise. They couldn't. They re-attached the doors and have now put felt and other materials under the black glossy B pillar facade and they think this has fixed the noise.

At around 2500kms my car developed a loud grating clunking noise at slow speed stop start type driving on the freeway. They at first thought this was a software issue but this did not fix the problem. While they were testing the DSG it completely failed and they are now going to take a DSG out of a brand new car and put it in mine. Its madness.

My car has spent a total of 20 days in the VW workshop so far and there is no end in sight. I have begged VW for a new car or my money back but they won't budge. They've even threatened me with legal action if I contact them again!!! Can you believe it???

I reckon they've done around $30 000 in repairs, 3/4 the cost of the car. The DSG alone is $14 000 apparently.

All-in-all my Golf is a complete and utter disaster. World car of the year? World lemon of the decade.

[ox518]

Guys, seriously.....do you think I should withdraw my order??????? Maybe I should go for focus or even Mazda 3?????

[gregozedobe]

Guys, seriously.....do you think I should withdraw my order??????? Maybe I should go for focus or even Mazda 3?????

Golfs are really nice to drive, but a there do seem to more lemons than you'd expect.

Mind you, there are lots of Golfs driving around with zero problems that you never hear about, but if someone has an issue they tend to go looking for more info and are a lot more vocal about it than the satisfied customers. I call it a biased, self-selecting sample.

At least VW are (usually) pretty good at fixing things under warranty (for straight forward problems, anyway).

[Tommy]

I'll be dumping mine as soon as I get the damned thing back...

Mazda 3 SP25 looks the ticket.

Interestingly, the loan car VW supplied is a brand new Jetta 147TSI. The DSG on that is as rough as guts too. I just think the DSG must be fundamentally flawed in terms of design.

The Golf is fun to drive and it looks stylish but.... This is my third and it will be my last. My previous two Gen 5s were much better, but even still, the quality was questionable with squeaks and rattles and poorly fitted trim. I thought the new German built Gen 6 would be far superior, well it isn't, in my case anyhow....