Headunit Install

Hey guys

Looking to install a HU into the MK3. Found this wiring diagram by doing some searching :

http://faculty.ccp.edu/faculty/dreed.../VW-Wiring.pdf

and also found this :

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...hlight=APP7201

The wiring diagram would have helped if I was to try and solder the new HU connector wires into it but I just decided to grab the Aerpro APP7201 male ISO connectors to save time. Only cost 15 bucks from supercheap.

APP7201 harness on the right, the Pioneer HU harness on the left.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...MAG07762-2.jpg

My question is, I was looking at the harness inside the dash and I noticed one of the wires was cut.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...IMAG0765-2.jpg

It looks like a black wire from the black connector, and looking at the wiring diagram, couldnt seem to find any black wires coming from that connector.

Bit of a longshot but any idea what this wire is/does and whether I can hook up the new unit without this wire?

Also, I noticed that the plug where the radio connector hooks up to the HU is different on the OEM unit compared to my Pioneer HU. (bottom left of the headunit in the photo below)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...MAG07753-2.jpg

The radio cable inside the dash is a female connector, hooking up to the male end of the OEM headunit, whereas it seems like I need a male connector to hook up to the female end of the aftermarket one?

Any help would be appreciated

Cheers

Normally require an adapter for the aerial on vws

The adapter can be found at any Jaycar store for about 3 bucks, Its called a Motorola to euro aerial adapter if i remember correctly.

I had a fair bit of trouble getting the right adaptor for my pioneer unit. Ended up cutting up the factory wiring and soldering (twist and tape)
I do remember having to switch a few wires around in the factory plugs to actually get mine to work

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You'll find the car also has two aerial plugs which may be a little confusing at first, but that's because the loom is a Frankensteinian webbed entanglement of the VR's and Vento's.

I ended up having one cable from the original unit loose. Not too sure what it does but never caused problems. I actually think it's to turn on and off the lighting on the OEM unit. New units have the lights always on so it's not needed. Can't remember what colour it was.
I did the same as burgundy and cut the original connector off and wired the new connector in.
Looks like Sony and Pioneer use the same connectors, wonder if the pin out is the same.

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Originally Posted by dylan8

Normally require an adapter for the aerial on vws

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Originally Posted by cliftronix

The adapter can be found at any Jaycar store for about 3 bucks, Its called a Motorola to euro aerial adapter if i remember correctly.

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Thanks guys I'll check Jaycar

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Originally Posted by Mk3 AAA

You'll find the car also has two aerial plugs which may be a little confusing at first, but that's because the loom is a Frankensteinian webbed entanglement of the VR's and Vento's.

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http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...IMAG0777-2.jpg

This is what I found. It wasn't hooked up to the OEM deck though. Is there another cable similar to this? I couldnt seem to find it. I was just feeling through the loom to see if i could feel something that felt similar but no dice?

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Originally Posted by stefcio007

I ended up having one cable from the original unit loose. Not too sure what it does but never caused problems. I actually think it's to turn on and off the lighting on the OEM unit. New units have the lights always on so it's not needed. Can't remember what colour it was.
I did the same as burgundy and cut the original connector off and wired the new connector in.
Looks like Sony and Pioneer use the same connectors, wonder if the pin out is the same.

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So you just soldered the new headunit wires into the factory harness? Did it take long?

That is the aerial as far as I'm concerned, you need to buy another extension piece like the others have said to be able to plug it into the back of the headunit

As for the black wire, When installing my subs and amp, the black wire I spotted was the remote wire which is used to connect your headunit to the amp. It isn't used if your just connecting the speakers to the headunit.
But whoever did install my previous headunit didn't use any adapters and splice and soldered each connection so it was hard trying to find which cord did what.

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Originally Posted by stephen8512

So you just soldered the new headunit wires into the factory harness? Did it take long?

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I used a connector block and soldered a few.
I basically had the old unit connected and connected a speaker at a time to figure out which one it was, then wired it into the correct cables on the new stereo connector.
I don't think it should take too long, the power cables are pretty obvious and use a multimeter if you aren't sure. The great thing is when I wanted to upgrade my sony unit, just unplugged the old one and plugged in the new one (also Sony). Easy.

Mine was OEM wiring, but the rear speaker wiring felt aftermarket, the speakers were very old though and definitely OEM. For some reason I have 5.5" speakers in the rear...did anyone else have this?

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Originally Posted by stefcio007

I used a connector block and soldered a few.
I basically had the old unit connected and connected a speaker at a time to figure out which one it was, then wired it into the correct cables on the new stereo connector.
I don't think it should take too long, the power cables are pretty obvious and use a multimeter if you aren't sure. The great thing is when I wanted to upgrade my sony unit, just unplugged the old one and plugged in the new one (also Sony). Easy.

Mine was OEM wiring, but the rear speaker wiring felt aftermarket, the speakers were very old though and definitely OEM. For some reason I have 5.5" speakers in the rear...did anyone else have this?

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Im pretty crap when it comes to electricals and I dont have a multimeter myself so it'll be a lot of trial an error if I were to go down your route. May need to invest in one when I get the heatshrink and antenna adaptor thingo from Jaycar...

The Aerpro APP7201 universal harness I got seems to just clip in to the factory harness (black to black, brown to brown) and then it has the different coloured exposed wires for me to solder into. I was going to just solder the wires from the Pioneer HU wires and match the colours to the harness and hope it works.

I had 6.5" speakers in all 4 door cards and 6" for the rear parcelshelf. I plan to just get 6.5" component speakers for the front and rear, and some 6x9's for the rear parcels. The two speakers on top of the dash I'm just going to disconnect as I think they're the splits?

Get 6.5 components for the front and run the tweeter in the top of the dash spot, that's what they are originally and you get good sound off the windscreen. 2-way 6.5's are best for the rear due to basically no place to put a components tweeter, the stock hole is far too small for anything aftermarket.

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Get 6.5 components for the front and run the tweeter in the top of the dash spot, that's what they are originally and you get good sound off the windscreen. 2-way 6.5's are best for the rear due to basically no place to put a components tweeter, the stock hole is far too small for anything aftermarket.

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4" pioneers in dash tweeters work for extra doof

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Originally Posted by HaydEn

4" pioneers in dash tweeters work for extra doof

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Would that be a separate purchase Hayden if I were to get the 4"? The 6.5" components already come with tweeters but not sure if they will fit in the OEM location above the dash?

If the 4" are separate speakers which need to be purchased, i might just forgo it for the time being...

4" components are seperate. I paid $70 installed from a local audio shop.

Just make sure they don't have a big fancy cover over the speaker otherwise the grille won't fit back on