The longest Newbie message ever...... 4Motion on sand

[Carlmaxx]

Hi All,
Just joined although I'm sure I have at another time with another email address long unused. This post ended up a lot longer than I was going to write but it's Saturday afternoon and 4 beers in so I thought I'd add extra - you're welcome.

I'm originally from Sydney Nthn beaches (Go Manly - likely first strike from the Admins ) but now on the Gold Coast. Have always liked/driven vans from a Mitsu L300 4x4 in which was like a hovercraft on the beach to Transporters for a distribution company.

I don't currently have a VW but am in the process of deciding on which VW T6.1 SWB 4Motion Van (diff lock etc) to order mainly for sand driving to get the family camping and out on the beach. I've read a lot of posts here over the years but i'll put where i'm going below and admins can advise if they want me to break anything here out to other post for discoverability for the forum.

I'm leaning towards the Transporter, with an aftermarket rear seat fitted by dealer and complied before sale, because it means I can get the bigger TDi450 engine which is not available in the Crewvan variant.

Question
It's not absolute if anyone has any reasons the bigger engine is not a good idea.
I do like the Multivan too but I treat my vans like vans so don't really need all the luxury - throw in the kids, boards, rods, dogs and wife and go - so I'd just be getting the kids to clean the Multivan too much and I'm not paying mid $90k to get the 450 engine in a Multivan to put on the beach.

The transporter also has a 8-15mm higher starting ground clearance than the Multivan depending on which spec you view.

In terms of Ground clearance I'm looking at a combination of tyre size and suspension lift
The Standard VW Tyre size is 215/60/R17 = 689.8mm (27") Standard diameter.
Allowed is +50 mm on diameter = 739.8mm Max (29.1")
Allowable options within the 50mm diameter increase would be
235-70-16 (735.4 28.9")
255-65-16 (737.9 29.05")
235-65-17 (737.3 = 29.0")
I was told today by the VW sales guy 4Motion needs min 17inch rims so I guess I'm at the 235-65-17 which will give approx 25mm or 1 inch lift. This means ~25mm would be allowed on suspension lift as well to stay at 50mm total.
Question has anyone used the above tyre size? If so any scrubbing?

I remember there being a post about what sizes you can get in the spare tyre holder underneath but i can't find it.

Ive also read a previous posting on Watercooled here on tyre / wheel lift for vw Transporter 4Motion which looks from my reading is now out of date I've pasted below but so I'll update that post with current QLD regs and interpretation as an FYI and to allow for discussion.

Essentially (pasted but edited excerpt) the code now says
2.6 MODIFICATIONS TO VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH ESC (edited)
To remain within the scope of VSB14, a vehicle fitted with ESC and modified with a suspension
lift up to 50mm beyond the original manufacturer’s standard height can be carried out under the
basic modification without certification guidelines as listed in Section 4. ....
4.11 LOWERING OR RAISING VEHICLES (edited)
....... Raising the height of the vehicle may be performed without certification providing the overall
increase in vehicle height is not more than 50mm.
This may be achieved as a single modification such as the installation of a 50mm lift kit, or by a combination of smaller lifts as described below:
· the fitting of body blocks or lift kits (50mm maximum if no other modifications resulting
in a change of vehicle height are performed);
· suspension modification, (50mm maximum if no other modifications resulting in a
change of vehicle height are performed);
· changes to tyre size (maximum change in tyre size diameter of 50mm); or
· a combination of the above that results in a change of vehicle height not exceeding
50mm.

Any feedback/comments most welcome.
Have a good weekend all.

[Firstof3]

You’re a QLDer now and not on the beaches.
Buy a Unimog or the first trip to Frazer will see you stuck getting off the barge.

U1300 MEGA DUAL CAB SLIDE ON - FOR SALE - Unidan Engineering


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[Carlmaxx]

Lol, Never a QLD'er.

[lolcats]

You’re a QLDer now and not on the beaches.
Buy a Unimog or the first trip to Frazer will see you stuck getting off the barge.

U1300 MEGA DUAL CAB SLIDE ON - FOR SALE - Unidan Engineering


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Hahaha great solution! LOL


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[Carlmaxx]

Hahaha great solution! LOL


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Lol yeah, Apart from who wants to drive a Unimog to Fraser.

[Caino]

Shame to hear you gave up on the Northern Beaches, in particular Manly, for QLD but hope it's working out for you.

Had you stayed in Manly, we could've been the Manly Transporter 4motion duo up at Redhead Beach on the weekends.

Keen to hear what you decide in the end, and what tyre size and/or lift kit you go with.

[vw transporter lover]

Hi All,
Just joined although I'm sure I have at another time with another email address long unused. This post ended up a lot longer than I was going to write but it's Saturday afternoon and 4 beers in so I thought I'd add extra - you're welcome.

I'm originally from Sydney Nthn beaches (Go Manly - likely first strike from the Admins ) but now on the Gold Coast. Have always liked/driven vans from a Mitsu L300 4x4 in which was like a hovercraft on the beach to Transporters for a distribution company.

I don't currently have a VW but am in the process of deciding on which VW T6.1 SWB 4Motion Van (diff lock etc) to order mainly for sand driving to get the family camping and out on the beach. I've read a lot of posts here over the years but i'll put where i'm going below and admins can advise if they want me to break anything here out to other post for discoverability for the forum.

I'm leaning towards the Transporter, with an aftermarket rear seat fitted by dealer and complied before sale, because it means I can get the bigger TDi450 engine which is not available in the Crewvan variant.

Question
It's not absolute if anyone has any reasons the bigger engine is not a good idea.
I do like the Multivan too but I treat my vans like vans so don't really need all the luxury - throw in the kids, boards, rods, dogs and wife and go - so I'd just be getting the kids to clean the Multivan too much and I'm not paying mid $90k to get the 450 engine in a Multivan to put on the beach.

The transporter also has a 8-15mm higher starting ground clearance than the Multivan depending on which spec you view.

In terms of Ground clearance I'm looking at a combination of tyre size and suspension lift
The Standard VW Tyre size is 215/60/R17 = 689.8mm (27") Standard diameter.
Allowed is +50 mm on diameter = 739.8mm Max (29.1")
Allowable options within the 50mm diameter increase would be
235-70-16 (735.4 28.9")
255-65-16 (737.9 29.05")
235-65-17 (737.3 = 29.0")
I was told today by the VW sales guy 4Motion needs min 17inch rims so I guess I'm at the 235-65-17 which will give approx 25mm or 1 inch lift. This means ~25mm would be allowed on suspension lift as well to stay at 50mm total.
Question has anyone used the above tyre size? If so any scrubbing?

I remember there being a post about what sizes you can get in the spare tyre holder underneath but i can't find it.

Ive also read a previous posting on Watercooled here on tyre / wheel lift for vw Transporter 4Motion which looks from my reading is now out of date I've pasted below but so I'll update that post with current QLD regs and interpretation as an FYI and to allow for discussion.

Essentially (pasted but edited excerpt) the code now says
2.6 MODIFICATIONS TO VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH ESC (edited)
To remain within the scope of VSB14, a vehicle fitted with ESC and modified with a suspension
lift up to 50mm beyond the original manufacturer’s standard height can be carried out under the
basic modification without certification guidelines as listed in Section 4. ....
4.11 LOWERING OR RAISING VEHICLES (edited)
....... Raising the height of the vehicle may be performed without certification providing the overall
increase in vehicle height is not more than 50mm.
This may be achieved as a single modification such as the installation of a 50mm lift kit, or by a combination of smaller lifts as described below:
· the fitting of body blocks or lift kits (50mm maximum if no other modifications resulting
in a change of vehicle height are performed);
· suspension modification, (50mm maximum if no other modifications resulting in a
change of vehicle height are performed);
· changes to tyre size (maximum change in tyre size diameter of 50mm); or
· a combination of the above that results in a change of vehicle height not exceeding
50mm.

Any feedback/comments most welcome.
Have a good weekend all.

Who were you told by about the 50 mil difference in total wheel diameter

[vw transporter lover]

Will putting 225 65 17 k02 BF Goodrich void my warranty