Looking at a used tiguan. persuade me

[walbjj]

My brother is c looking at a 2010/11 tiguan. This is the facelift. He is also looking at a 2010 Honda crv and the subaru xv.
As a current gti owner I said the tig sound be a nice drive. However I'm unsure about the reliability and quality issues wrt the tiguan.
Also. Which model would be the best? Its For his missus so speed isn't a factor so the 147 isn't a priority. Is the tdi better than the tsi?

Currently on carsales there r a few around the high 20k Mark. Most r well optioned with leather. Sat navigation. Ops and sunroof. I think 25k would snag any of the models.
Is v the 7sp dsg the same problematic gearbox as the golfs that has been in the news?
Cheers

[tigger73]

DSG in Tiguan is 7 speed DQ500 wet clutch rated to 500Nm (also used in Transporter and Audi TTRS) and not to be confused with the low torque Golf/Polo/Passat dry clutch DQ200 with the recall issues.

Facelift happened towards the end of 2011. So 2010 will definitely be the original shape. The facelift is 2012 model - released in October 2011.

Regards TDI vs TSI it's a personal choice. TDI for fuel economy and TSI if you want to chip it

No major issues - I'd just stay away from the FWD only 118TSI as this is the same twin charger engine in the Golfs and there have also been a few issues with this engine in the Tiguan also.

[walbjj]

Ok. So the 125 and the 132? Both very good?

[tigger73]

125 is pre-facelift (2008-2011) and132 is 2012-.

Both run a detuned 2.0 turbo petrol which is same engine mechanically that is in Golf GTI.

TDI is also pretty bullet-proof so you can't really go wrong with any of these.
No major problems with either of these.


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[walbjj]

So basically a flash from a tuner and either the 125 or 132 becomes gti spec? internals such as pistons and rods etc r the same?

[team_v]

So basically a flash from a tuner and either the 125 or 132 becomes gti spec? internals such as pistons and rods etc r the same?

Exactly the same engine as the GTI.
A flash for the 125/132 takes it to 189kw, well above the stock GTI.

[walbjj]

R u sure. My stg1 apr on my gti didn't get anywhere near 189. And stg2 would have been 189kw if lucky

[tigger73]

So basically a flash from a tuner and either the 125 or 132 becomes gti spec? internals such as pistons and rods etc r the same?

Exactly. 125TSI gets tuned to 189kW with stage1.

You get an AWD system so no issues with with wheelspin and uprated fuel pump if you want to add a DP to take it to 2+.

The only thing is it does weigh a bit more due to AWD system and the extra size. But stage 1 is a cheap upgrade to add around 60kW to the base model 2.0 Tig.


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[tigger73]

R u sure. My stg1 apr on my gti didn't get anywhere near 189. And stg2 would have been 189kw if lucky

We're talking flywheel kW and not kwaw. Drivetrain loss is around 25% on the AWD so on the dyno it will come out around 140kwaw.

But still a 50% increase over stock for $1,000 or so.


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[walbjj]

Either c way. You r saying that the Gti engine gets to Golf r power. 192kw with stg 1 tune. Whereas I had stg 2 on my gti and no way was it golf r power.
Either way. Seems like it's either the tdi or a well optioned 125