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    Golf doesn't start sometimes

    Hey,

    A couple of times recently I have attempted to start my 2.0 Golf TDI and it hasn't started immediately.

    On one occasion I had left it at the long term car park at Sydney airport for three days while in Melbourne. On returning, I couldn't get it started for about 15 minutes (it took around 7 attempts before it finally started to turn over). In between, the MFD said "STOP!" when I was attempting to start it.

    It's definitely not battery related, as everything else functions. I had actually called the callout assistance but the car started before they got there. The technician said they couldn't identify the problem but that it happens from time to time with the diesels?

    Anyway, it did it again today. This time I'd used it yesterday, so it definitely wasn't cold. It took around 3-4 times to get it started and when it does first start, it sounds quite rough.

    Any ideas? Is this common? Is it something to be concerned about?

    It's done 14,000km and just over one year old and recently serviced (February).

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    Quote Originally Posted by THR View Post
    Hey,

    A couple of times recently I have attempted to start my 2.0 Golf TDI and it hasn't started immediately.

    On one occasion I had left it at the long term car park at Sydney airport for three days while in Melbourne. On returning, I couldn't get it started for about 15 minutes (it took around 7 attempts before it finally started to turn over). In between, the MFD said "STOP!" when I was attempting to start it.

    It's definitely not battery related, as everything else functions. I had actually called the callout assistance but the car started before they got there. The technician said they couldn't identify the problem but that it happens from time to time with the diesels?

    Anyway, it did it again today. This time I'd used it yesterday, so it definitely wasn't cold. It took around 3-4 times to get it started and when it does first start, it sounds quite rough.

    Any ideas? Is this common? Is it something to be concerned about?

    It's done 14,000km and just over one year old and recently serviced (February).
    Sounds like maybe a glow plug issue, I would suggest a trip to the dealer and get them to run a check on it and see if it has thrown any error codes. You mentioned getting a message to STOP, I would tell them that when you take it in, although that may not be related to the problem, but more so to how long you were trying to crank it over (perhaps a battery low warning message or something). It could also be a crap lot of fuel, have you filled up somewhere different recently, you could also try running some diesel injector cleaner through it as well.
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    You are waiting for the plugs to glow first, right? (Serious question).

    I've started the caddy before being lazy and not waiting for the plugs on a very cold morning and it stumbled and was very rough for a few seconds before smoothing out.

    I'd say a glow plug issue, however i've found my Caddy to be quite good cold starting just hitting the key straight up unless its fairly cold..

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    Excuse my stupidity but how do you "wait for them to glow"? I cranked it a few times (and on each occasion it did tell me to "STOP!" eventually).

    Fuel wise, it's had a fill up in between the issue occurring, both BP fuel but from different locations.

    I'll check it out at the dealer if it happens again, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by THR View Post
    Excuse my stupidity but how do you "wait for them to glow"? I cranked it a few times (and on each occasion it did tell me to "STOP!" eventually).

    Fuel wise, it's had a fill up in between the issue occurring, both BP fuel but from different locations.

    I'll check it out at the dealer if it happens again, thanks
    Oh, sorry.. On instrument panel there's a little icon that lights up when you first turn the ignition on. It looks like a little coil type thing. It'll go out once the glow plugs have heated up. Takes about 2 seconds. So you switch the ignition on, wait for the light to go out, then hit the key.

    Have i explained that clearly?

    EDIT:

    This isn't the right dash, but the icon looks like this..

    Last edited by Preen59; 12-04-2009 at 08:01 PM.

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    Aaah, yes

    Sorry... to be honest, I'm not sure if there was any pause , but I did try several times. I'll do that from now on though...!

    Edit: I don't recall ever seeing that icon but I'll have a look next time.

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    Can I suggest you also have a good look through your owner manuals ? There is lots of good info there (glow plug functionality included)
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    The glow plug light will be around about the centre left on the tacho, but you'll have to be quick to see it, it generally only stays on for a second or two, so if you blink you could you miss it

    Try waiting for at least 5 seconds before cranking it over (especially on cold mornings) and hopefully there will be no more issue. I would blame the dealer (if you bought it new) for not running through the correct operating procedures with you at delivery time
    Last edited by Russ59; 12-04-2009 at 08:50 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregozedobe View Post
    Can I suggest you also have a good look through your owner manuals ? There is lots of good info there (glow plug functionality included)
    Thanks for the tip but like anything, it's difficult to completely read and comprehend a full set of instructions cover to cover.

    And no, it was never pointed out to me.

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    Yep, I agree with the people above, glowplugs, back to the dealer to cheack for error codes, a bottle of Fuel doctor or similar to remove any water / algae you may have picked up in a bad batch of diesel, and definately wait for the glow plugs to warm up. Should still start within a few seconds though, as the glowies will heat up rather fast.... and I'd figure it's hard to flood a diesel? No plug to get wet....
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