Provent Instalation 2.0 PD TDI

[InMused]

After discussions with Cogdoc and reading though a mountain of posts I have decided to have a hack at installing a Provent on my Jetta. I have not been able to find pictures or instructions for my specific engine so I though I might document my questions/answers and installation here.

I am looking at this kit from Western Filters (thanks Roaming Refuge) as it comes with additional installation hardware:

• 1x provent 200 crankcase unit
• 2x 1mtr lengths of 5/8" silicone oil resistant hose
• 1x 1mtr length of 3/4" silicone oil resistant hose (may not be required for patrol users)
• 1x 1ft lentgth of 1" silicone oil resistant hose
• 2x reducing straight joiners from 1" - 3/4" & 5/8"
• 8x stainless hose clamps.

I also found this how-to that positions the Provent on the oil filter housing. See below:



While this is not my engine (and there is no room next to my oil filter) I started looking towards the front of the engine bay. Is there any reason (size, heat, movement etc) that would prevent me from locating the Provent on the fuel filter housing utalising the void between the fuel filter and the headlamp? See below:



I have been looking at hose routing and thought that I could rout the hoses accross the top of the engine to the top left corner and along the void between the pulley housing (I hope that's what it is) and the coolant expansion bottle to the Provent mounted on the fuel filter housing. I can't see any problem with regards tot he engine cover. My questions are, is there any heat issues with running the EGR line so close the coolant system?



I assume (noob question) that the flow that I am bypassing flows in the direction of the arrow?



I haven't thought about the drain yet.

Anything else I need to be aware of?

Cheers in advance. Pax

[Transporter]

I don't think that there would be enough room next to the fuel filter, Greg Roles installed it next to the battery and further down back.
You've got it for a good price since it comes with the hoses.

[Greg Roles]

The idea is a good one, but as it's actually slightly bigger than the fuel filter cannister, it's a tricky beast to fit anywhere!
The hose routing is fine, but you will find silicon hose won't do those sort of bends without kinking, and joiners / elbows only reduce overall flow. Use as few as possible, I ended up with none.
Yep that flow direction is right, and it's great to see a kit out there with the right sort of hose.

When it arrives you'll see what I mean about the size, and it's only the baby one in the Provent range, you should see the truck ones!!

[InMused]

The idea is a good one, but as it's actually slightly bigger than the fuel filter cannister, it's a tricky beast to fit anywhere!
The hose routing is fine, but you will find silicon hose won't do those sort of bends without kinking, and joiners / elbows only reduce overall flow. Use as few as possible, I ended up with none.
Yep that flow direction is right, and it's great to see a kit out there with the right sort of hose.

When it arrives you'll see what I mean about the size, and it's only the baby one in the Provent range, you should see the truck ones!!

Thanks Greg and Transporter, you must have your computers in your tinker garage.

It is bigger than I thought. I pulled the specs and found a household item the same size - a 400g Milo tin. Your right, it doesn't fit. Maybe this is why VW doesn't install a oil/air separator as stock; they can't fut it anywhere either.

Is there any reason why the Provent 200 is prefered over the 150. The 150 can be used with engines up to 200Kw and is 20mm small in its housing diameter?

I am keen to have it located in a spot that makes it easy for future servicing. If only the air box wasn't such a space hog. Hmmmm. If I install a pod filter I would have enough room up front in front of the battery box in a serviceable position maybe?

Could copper tube be used and bent into an appropriate shape?

I assume there is no way easy way to flip the EGR vent outlet around so that it faces right?



PS. You guys a champs. I have learned so much in the last few days.

[InMused]

Did some more hunting around VWW and found mikinoz's Modshack intake thread. While I am aware that it will not provide me with Kw benefits, the space saved I think would be worth while for a simple install of the Provent.



Losts of space here and some mounting points to boot.

[Transporter]

Just cross fingers that it is deep enough. But instead buying a filter you could get the Optima battery (it is smaller) and you have the ideal space and location for the Provent.
Look at the Greg's engine bay around the battery. (maybe he can take a better picture of that location)