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Thread: Stage 1 vs stage 2 - cost, gains

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manaz View Post
    The issue is he's not coming from Stage1 or Stage2 - he's starting from stock.



    And he's aiming for 500hp+, not 700hp (though that is technically 500hp+, I grant, people generally don't say 500+ when they mean ~700 ) :



    Some people are happy with second hand, some people may want new (and if there's no second hand ones lying around, he's kinda stuck with new anyway).

    A big question will be whether 350kW+ will get him to 10-second passes. Assuming an unladen weight of ~1700kgs, he'd need a fraction over 550hp to run a 10-second (10.999 or better) quarter mile.
    downpipe and IC .. +1.5-2K.

    prob gonna need between 600 - 700HP full torque horses to move the arteon

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    Quote Originally Posted by amunra View Post
    why is it costing 25k.. lol
    You CAN spend upwards of $13K on ceramic brakes alone. Most regular 6-piston 380mm brake kits are $5-6K... then include turbos, heavy duty clutches, exhausts etc - it all adds up quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nermal View Post
    You CAN spend upwards of $13K on ceramic brakes alone. Most regular 6-piston 380mm brake kits are $5-6K... then include turbos, heavy duty clutches, exhausts etc - it all adds up quickly.
    yeh. but why would you be putting on ceramics on a drag car? they are actually worse until heated up properly... more of a circuit track thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by amunra View Post
    yeh. but why would you be putting on ceramics on a drag car? they are actually worse until heated up properly... more of a circuit track thing
    Aah, ok - so you're assuming that @BO11OS is going stage 3 just to get 10s quarter mile times? - but @BO11OS' can speak for his/her self.

    Personally, if I only wanted a drag car, then I wouldn't choose an Arteon. I like the Arteon because it's a comfortable daily driver that looks good and can be tuned up for more fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nermal View Post
    Aah, ok - so you're assuming that @BO11OS is going stage 3 just to get 10s quarter mile times? - but @BO11OS' can speak for his/her self.

    Personally, if I only wanted a drag car, then I wouldn't choose an Arteon. I like the Arteon because it's a comfortable daily driver that looks good and can be tuned up for more fun.

    well he made it out like thats the aim.. and yeh i wouldnt have picked an arteon to go full build stage 3 either. stage 2 prob enough.. maybe a hybrid turbo stage 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by amunra View Post
    well he made it out like thats the aim..
    Re-reading his post, his stated aim was wanting to run 10s, not building a drag car. They are two very different things, and it's far more likely that he wants to build a rapid, spacious, comfortable, well-appointed street car, rather than turning an Arteon into a quarter mile focused machine. I guess the poster can clarify for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petemac110 View Post
    Re-reading his post, his stated aim was wanting to run 10s, not building a drag car. They are two very different things, and it's far more likely that he wants to build a rapid, spacious, comfortable, well-appointed street car, rather than turning an Arteon into a quarter mile focused machine. I guess the poster can clarify for us.
    runnings 10s means ur going to the strip and running 10s

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    Quote Originally Posted by amunra View Post
    runnings 10s means ur going to the strip and running 10s
    Exactly - no mention of it being a drag car. Just a car capable of 10s. You can achieve the latter without necessarily being the former.

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    Hi guys, happy for anyone to ask me what I am doing & why & happy to break down the cost's, all parts are new. My car sit's under the car port 6 out of 7 days a week it's not my daily & to be honest my son is now 17 & into cars, he has a GTI & we are playing what that so it got me more motivated to play with my Arteon. I am an old school racer from 25 years ago when I had rotary's so the fact the Arteon is a luxury car but fast is a bonus.
    Quick run down on parts & tune,
    V5 large Techtronic's turbo (still very driveable)
    larger intercooler
    larger fuel injectors
    high flow fuel pumps
    full exhaust
    full intake upgrade
    will be a Galano flex fuel setup with DSG tuning also so will be able to run on E85 or premium
    plenty of other bits I have left out, but basically I am going for a 10 second pass hopefully mid 10's already a proven package in multiple cars just search Galano, The car will still be very street friendly.
    If anyone want's to know more feel free to message me & as soon as it's all done I will post up pics & info with a time slip as we go along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BO11OS View Post
    Hi guys, happy for anyone to ask me what I am doing & why & happy to break down the cost's, all parts are new. My car sit's under the car port 6 out of 7 days a week it's not my daily & to be honest my son is now 17 & into cars, he has a GTI & we are playing what that so it got me more motivated to play with my Arteon. I am an old school racer from 25 years ago when I had rotary's so the fact the Arteon is a luxury car but fast is a bonus.
    Quick run down on parts & tune,
    V5 large Techtronic's turbo (still very driveable)
    larger intercooler
    larger fuel injectors
    high flow fuel pumps
    full exhaust
    full intake upgrade
    will be a Galano flex fuel setup with DSG tuning also so will be able to run on E85 or premium
    plenty of other bits I have left out, but basically I am going for a 10 second pass hopefully mid 10's already a proven package in multiple cars just search Galano, The car will still be very street friendly.
    If anyone want's to know more feel free to message me & as soon as it's all done I will post up pics & info with a time slip as we go along.
    how many ponys u going for big boy

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