Arteon Brake upgrade

[amunra]

Thanks, the DBA pads/rotors are an interesting option and may be a good temporary plan B if the stage 3 brakes don't fit, though fitment is looking good so far =)

I was also looking at ordering some Brembo 345mm (4Pot) Porsche Macan or Audi RS options online, but my long-term plan was to go 380mm Stage 3 eventually anyway. The Golf R (2 pot) calipers were also a consideration, but there wasn't too much of a price difference for the 4pot options - especially given the addition €430 in shipping. Here's the site I was looking at: Vw Arteon Big Brake Kits

dont u guys have golf r brakes as standard?

[nermal]

dont u guys have golf r brakes as standard?

I think the rotors are the same, but the Arteon calipers are single piston, where the (new) Golf ones are 2pot - tho I could be wrong

[amunra]

I think the rotors are the same, but the Arteon calipers are single piston, where the (new) Golf ones are 2pot - tho I could be wrong

interesting. thought it was the same gear as the golf r... thats a shame for arteon drivers if VW are cheaping out a bit.

audi TTS brakes are like golf r brakes but lighter...... if u can find them..

otherwise i think 2nd hand 4pots (porsche audi) off a wreck are probably the best buy if ur gonna replace the calipers... otherwise just replace the disc and pads like (dba4000 and dba xp) even on a single pot should be good with stage 1 - 3 (depending on what ur doing regularly).

why ur considering stage 3 brake kit on a stage 1 car..... only if ur going to do laps and laps at a circuit and regularly... u might regret ur purchase very quickly.



P.S after doing some reading online they are the same brake calipers as golf r.. open to being corrected if someone can prove that.

[nermal]

why ur considering stage 3 brake kit on a stage 1 car..... only if ur going to do laps and laps at a circuit and regularly... u might regret ur purchase very quickly.

Stage 2 kit is currently on order (arriving from UK in a few months) and plan to take it to stage 3 sometime after that.

P.S after doing some reading online they are the same brake calipers as golf r.. open to being corrected if someone can prove that.

Good to know, thanks for the clarification.

[amunra]

Stage 2 kit is currently on order (arriving from UK in a few months) and plan to take it to stage 3 sometime after that.



Good to know, thanks for the clarification.

discs and pads will be more than fine for whatever your going to be using for. (unless you a professional circuit driver .. specifically driving ur arteon).. .. worst case u eat a bit more pad on spirited driving and have to replace a little bit sooner.. pretty economical for a level performance probably more than u need...... aslong as they dont fall apart on u at high temps / load which very well can happen with the OEM then you are getting a benefit.

if ur getting stage 2 calipers then u most definately dont need stage 3 calipers ..

[nermal]

if ur getting stage 2 calipers then u most definately dont need stage 3 calipers ..

Unfortunately, the VWR stage 2 calipers don't fit our 20" wheels (I was originally considering these). The spokes have a concave shape, but don't have the clearance for the wider calipers near the hub for 345mm rotors - so, ironically the 380mm fit (just), but the 345mm don't.

The manufacturer provides printable templates that you can use to measure brake fit/clearance against the wheel. I'll find out next week for sure.

[amunra]

Unfortunately, the VWR stage 2 calipers don't fit our 20" wheels (I was originally considering these). The spokes have a concave shape, but don't have the clearance for the wider calipers near the hub for 345mm rotors - so, ironically the 380mm fit (just), but the 345mm don't.

The manufacturer provides printable templates that you can use to measure brake fit/clearance against the wheel. I'll find out next week for sure.

so what stage 2 kit calipers did u order from the uk?

[nermal]

so what stage 2 kit calipers did u order from the uk?

Sorry for the confusion, I'm waiting on Stage 2 tuning parts from the UK (ceramic-coated downpipe, intercooler, hoses etc).

[amunra]

Sorry for the confusion, I'm waiting on Stage 2 tuning parts from the UK (ceramic-coated downpipe, intercooler, hoses etc).

fair enough.. after speaking to a brakes specialist i think the conclusion was that big brake is only needed if ur doing extended circuit work (lap on lap .. chasing times)... otherwise discs and pads go well if "stopping power" is all ur after.

after checking out the prices of the dba xp orange seems like they have gone up quite a bit since i bought mine... nearly $100 a set... i think at the $200+ range you can get pads with even higher heat tolerance for extended circuit (if thats what anyone really needs).

otherwise orange is good for street, spirited / performance.

i was advised the rs3 brake upgrade isnt even that great over the golf r brakes for circuit work and not really worth doing.

hope that gives u guys something to consider before dropping 4 - 6k+ on big brakes and install.

[Ozsko]

I doubt any upgrade will be worth it at all even on a circuit. As someone with a bit of experience with circuit racing unless the driver is coached in how to brake on a circuit they can't do it because the whole thing is counter intuitive.