Reliability after 5 years

**Sharkie** · 10-07-2023, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Ozsko

If I had all your doubts with having a DSG there is no way I would buy a car with the transmission in it.

I'm with you mate, unfortunately, at the moment all the "performance" SUVs from VW only come with a DSG ... and since the T-Roc R was what my wife chose, I had no choice but to give in ... happy wife happy life etc etc etc.

It will only stick around until about a year before the warranty runs out though ...

**FastMitch** · 12-07-2023, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Sharkie

Blaming the driving style is utter BS.

VW should design the gearboxes to take whatever driving style the owners would reasonably use. The fact is that there are inherent flaws in the DSG designs and that they will all fail at some point in time, some sooner some a bit later. Some way sooner than what can be considered reasonable at law. The litigious nature of our USA friends has forced VW to now employ normal automatics in many models in the USA where there have been successful class actions against VW in relation to DSG failures.

In the 2 years the MK8 has been out, how many gearbox failures have been noted against the TSIs in Australia? By now this forum (and others) would already have had DSG horror stories (like what happended to the Mk6, Mk7 & Mk7.5s), yet not a peep about that "normal" automatic in the Mk8 1.4TSIs anywhere really. Lose some "performance", gain massively improved reliability. Win for VW and its owners.

Fully agree Sharkie

I am one of those that have now experienced the dreaded "Gearbox in Emergency" mode 20kms out from home.
Had to limp back stuck in 2nd gear only at 40 km/h. It was not a load of fun.

As the Tiguan has only done 25K kms and is 4 years old (still under warranty), I will most likely sell at the 5 year mark.
I have little confidence that other DSG issues won't arise after the warranty expires.

My previous SUV had a standard gearbox, was rock solid and did 100K kms with no issues.
My next SUV purchase will definitely be a torque converter / standard gearbox (no DSG / Dual Clutch / CVT).

**Ozsko** · 13-07-2023, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Sharkie

I'm with you mate, unfortunately, at the moment all the "performance" SUVs from VW only come with a DSG ... and since the T-Roc R was what my wife chose, I had no choice but to give in ... happy wife happy life etc etc etc.

It will only stick around until about a year before the warranty runs out though ...

I wouldn't buy a manual car for a bet even if you gave me the money.

**Sharkie** · 13-07-2023, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Ozsko

I wouldn't buy a manual car for a bet even if you gave me the money.

So you are a steerer then, not a driver

Thats OK, we need all sorts, even those that are challenged ....

**Ozsko** · 21-07-2023, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by Sharkie

So you are a steerer then, not a driver

Thats OK, we need all sorts, even those that are challenged ....

As someone one who has been actively involved in motorsport for the last 50 years both in rallying and circuit racing and drove trucks professionally for most of my working life don't tell me what I am. Until you are deep into a corner with cars all around you you have no idea what driving is all about.

**FastMitch** · 27-07-2023, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Ozsko

As someone one who has been actively involved in motorsport for the last 50 years both in rallying and circuit racing and drove trucks professionally for most of my working life don't tell me what I am. Until you are deep into a corner with cars all around you you have no idea what driving is all about.

Have you done the Targa Tasmania?