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    Quote Originally Posted by kamold View Post
    You can use the newer 3AA part, it's a supersession from the 3C0 part. Anything up to 3AA907801J.
    Cheers kamold, I'm hoping to p/u used one (happens to be same revision) tomorrow as I surely don't want to spend $1350 plus GST for a new one from VW.
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    The 3C0 parts are prone to failure. The superceding 3AA part is what I'd go for.
    Last edited by kamold; 08-04-2021 at 08:15 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamold View Post
    The 3C0 parts are prone to failure. The superceding 3AA part is what I'd go for.

    I see, just a pity that there isn't one of those newer ones around ATM. Buying this (old one) is hand since it's "local pickup" so I can get my hands on it straight away. Otherwise I gotta wait for the item to be posted (maybe from o/s?). After driving with this constant loud ding dong alarm bell I reckon I need to get my ears checked out. I've only driven the car like that a couple of times but still. I was a bit concerned that this fault might also affect things like the ABS or the stability control but there was no light indication on the dashboard those weren't working.
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    So, I p/u the module today, it's the same part number but the revision is different - still it should work. Unfortunately, so far I only succeeded in creating more faults than before. Firstly, I've gone from 1 EPB control module fault to 5 because now both left & right motors are causing faults.

    Also ABS, stability control, EPC, etc. etc. There are so many guides out there on "how to" that I'm not really clear which one should be followed. The rear EPB motors have come up (I think) because they're not coded to the ABS module? For whatever reason the VCDS will not allow me to code the control module to 0000012 - parking brake with auto-hold. It comes back with this error message: coding rejected, error 22 condition not correct or request sequence error. Does this operation required security pin? One is mentioned somewhere in Ross-Tech guide but I'll be damned if I can find it now.

    The only good thing that happened is the ding dong alarm has stopped however only the left motor operated from time to time but not both. I've driven the vehicle around the block and let it stand & tried to clear the codes - no good. Not sure whether now I should try disconnecting the battery for 10min, trying to clear the codes and see if that works?
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    Here is the screen shot of the dashboard ATM - even the tire pressure fault has now appeared.

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    I turns out - even though the EPB Control Module has the same part number it comes from a non-rear EPB car (2Lt TDI model). I'm curious if despite that it still could be coded to work in my car? Has anyone had any experience with that?
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    Post the actual faults from VCDS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamold View Post
    Post the actual faults from VCDS.
    I run the software on a laptop and will have to re-run & save the faults list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamold View Post
    Post the actual faults from VCDS.
    Here is the faults log:

    Chassis Type: 3C (3C0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 36 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 65
    69 72 76

    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 03H-906-032-BLV.clb
    Part No SW: 03H 997 033 K HW: Hardware No
    Component: P3.2 FSI-EU4 G00 2368
    Revision: --H11--- Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
    Coding: 0000175
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
    VCID: 356194D35C417F2CE0-8060

    3 Faults Found:
    005715 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
    P1653 - 004 -
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100100
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 4
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 317271 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.09
    Time: 01:27:32

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 0 /min
    Load: 0.0 %
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Temperature: 58.0°C
    Temperature: 43.0°C
    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
    Voltage: 12.319 V

    005715 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
    P1653 - 001 -
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100001
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 4
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 317271 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.09
    Time: 01:27:35

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 1286 /min
    Load: 34.9 %
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Temperature: 58.0°C
    Temperature: 43.0°C
    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
    Voltage: 11.684 V

    012555 - Low Pressure Fuel regulation
    P310B - 004 - Fuel Pressure Outside Specification - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00110100
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 317278 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.13
    Time: 03:26:16

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 2304 /min
    Load: 46.6 %
    Speed: 19.0 km/h
    Temperature: 86.0°C
    Temperature: 21.0°C
    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
    Voltage: 14.224 V

    Readiness: 0110 0101
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
    Part No SW: 02E 300 047 J HW: 02E 927 770 AE
    Component: GSG DSG 070 1154
    Revision: 04507000 Serial number: 00000602071105
    Coding: 0000020
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
    VCID: 1F4D567BCEBDD57C1A-804A

    2 Faults Found:
    18255 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
    P1847 - 000 - - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100000
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 255
    Reset counter: 1
    Mileage: 317271 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.09
    Time: 01:27:18

    00473 - Control Module for Elect. Park/Hand Brake (J540)
    013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101101
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 255
    Reset counter: 40
    Mileage: 317271 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.09
    Time: 01:32:03
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels:. 3C0-614-095-C2.clb
    Part No SW: 3C0 614 095 Q HW: 3C0 614 095 Q
    Component: ESP 440 C2 H015 0003
    Revision: H015 Serial number: 0667165431
    Coding: 0010000
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
    VCID: 306FA5C7A3235A04B3-8064

    6 Faults Found:
    01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
    000 - -
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 317283 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.13
    Time: 00:05:58

    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 317283 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.13
    Time: 00:05:58

    01542 - Yaw Rate Sensor (G202)
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 317283 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.13
    Time: 00:05:58

    01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 317283 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.13
    Time: 00:05:58

    01279 - Longitudinal Acceleration Sensor (G251)
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 317283 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.13
    Time: 00:05:58

    00810 - Sensor 1/2 for Brake Pressure
    005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 317283 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.13
    Time: 00:05:58
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 3C0-907-044.lbl
    Part No SW: 3C0 907 044 BB HW: 3C0 907 044 BB
    Component: ClimatronicPQ46 112 0606
    Revision: 00112021 Serial number: 00000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 62CB1F8FBD4FB89475-8036

    No fault code found.
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
    Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 J HW: 3C0 937 049 J
    Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1301
    Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000003835219
    Coding: E1848F0700041A00000A00000F00000000085D435C0000
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
    VCID: 306FA5C7A3235A04B3-8064

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C2 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
    Component: Wischer VW461 012 0503
    Coding: 00063445
    Shop #: WSC 00028

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 T Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
    Component: RegenLichtSens 011 1110
    Coding: 00208933
    Shop #: WSC 00028

    1 Fault Found:
    01500 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Right (L23)
    010 - Open or Short to Plus
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101010
    Fault Priority: 4
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 137
    Mileage: 317283 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.13
    Time: 00:05:00

    Freeze Frame:
    ON
    Voltage: 12.90 V
    ON
    ON
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    This is the first part of the fault log as the forum will not allow me to post more than 10000 characters
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    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 3C0-909-605.lbl
    Part No SW: 3C0 909 605 K HW: 3C0 909 605 K
    Component: 17 AIRBAG VW8R 029 2521
    Revision: 10029000 Serial number: 003A3P1ZPVBF
    Coding: 0012599
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
    VCID: 2E53BBBFB9174CF4A1-807A

    Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME0F5F0E3BY
    Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME0F49367AQ
    Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS64IKAP662E
    Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS64IKQDAR21
    Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW20.lbl
    Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 E HW: 3C0 953 549 E
    Component: J0527 0015
    Revision: 00005000 Serial number: 3C5953507P
    Coding: 0001111
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
    VCID: 2E53BBBFB9174CF4A1-807A

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
    Component: E0221 007 0050

    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 3C0-920-xxx-17.lbl
    Part No SW: 3C0 920 870 P HW: 3C0 920 870 P
    Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 4240
    Revision: X0033000 Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 0007705
    Shop #: WSC 30081 959 88100
    VCID: 306FA5C7A3235A04B3-8064

    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 3C0-907-530-V3.clb
    Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 Q HW: 3C0 907 951
    Component: J533 Gateway H13 0172
    Revision: H13 Serial number: 3640P151190AC5
    Coding: FD82FF4F00020200F103
    Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
    VCID: 2F6DA6BBBE1D45FCAA-807A

    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
    Part No: 1K0 907 554 C
    Component: HALDEX 4Motion 0108
    Coding: 0000001
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 2D51BCB3B41137EC98-8078

    1 Fault Found:
    01316 - ABS Control Module
    013 - Check DTC Memory
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
    Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 P HW: 3C0 959 433 P
    Component: IMMO 043 0364
    Revision: 00043000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
    Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
    VCID: 377D9EDB464D8D3CF2-8062

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 D
    Component: ELV 024 0370
    3C0905861D ELV 024 0370

    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 3C0-959-760.lbl
    Part No SW: 3C0 959 760 B HW: 3C0 959 760 B
    Component: Sitzverstellung 0701
    Revision: 00003000 Serial number: 00000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 2C57B1B78F0B3EE48F-8078

    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX2.lbl
    Part No: 1K0 959 701 L
    Component: Tuer-SG 024 2462
    Coding: 0000951
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
    VCID: 377D9EDB464D8D3CF2-8062

    1 Fault Found:
    00131 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Driver Side
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
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    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
    Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5 D06 1701
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 3467A9D7573B6624D7-8060

    1 Fault Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    000 - -
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
    Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 P HW: 3C0 959 433 P
    Component: KSG PQ46 RDK 043 0213
    Revision: 00043000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
    Coding: 01910A0801860E76380494157008DFCE101800
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
    VCID: 377D9EDB464D8D3CF2-8062

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
    Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 A
    Component: Neigungssensor 002 0508

    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 A
    Component: Innenraumueberw.002 0508

    1 Fault Found:
    01517 - Control Module for Trailer/Towing Sensor (J345)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 4
    Fault Frequency: 11
    Reset counter: 177
    Mileage: 317271 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.09
    Time: 01:35:38
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX2.lbl
    Part No: 1K0 959 702 L
    Component: Tuer-SG 024 2462
    Coding: 0000950
    Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
    VCID: 387F9DE74B538244FB-806C

    1 Fault Found:
    00132 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Passenger Side
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
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    Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 3C0-907-801-53.clb
    Part No SW: 3C0 907 801 B HW: 3C0 907 801 B
    Component: EPB VC8HC001 013 0001
    Revision: 013
    Coding: 0010000
    Shop #: WSC 30087 959 68769
    VCID: 21495083F8C9E38C2C-8074

    3 Faults Found:
    01316 - ABS Control Module
    013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 11101101
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 254
    Reset counter: 137
    Mileage: 317264 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2021.04.13
    Time: 03:17:07

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 11.90 V
    Count: 236

    01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
    000 - - - MIL ON
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 11100000
    Fault Priority: 4
    Fault Frequency: 4
    Reset counter: 136
    Time Indication: 0

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 12.01 V
    Count: 171

    01087 - Basic Setting Not Performed
    000 - - - MIL ON
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 11100000
    Fault Priority: 4
    Fault Frequency: 4
    Reset counter: 136
    Time Indication: 0

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 12.01 V
    Count: 170
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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