Guys, I've got an MY16 R, with MIIB 6.5" - are these units in the same situation as the older discover units? My voice control button also does not work....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiaorana
anyone tried any of the above with MIIB yet?
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Guys, I've got an MY16 R, with MIIB 6.5" - are these units in the same situation as the older discover units? My voice control button also does not work....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiaorana
anyone tried any of the above with MIIB yet?
Seph: It's little solace (I know), but the situation with Voice Control hasn't changed since the release of the MY13 Golf - yet further evidence of the glacial pace at which VW Australia moves! If you look at the first few pages in this thread, you will read the similar frustrations of us early buyers of the mk7. I was able to get VC fitted (without incurring a charge from VW Australia) and I wrote-up a short few words about the facility (complete with pictures) which you can find HERE . But I have to say that I've seldom used the facility [it's limited in application and it often confuses my words).Quote:
Originally Posted by Seph
As for MIBII, when I got VC, I did some work with a couple of forum colleagues here to see if we could just tweak the coding string on the MIB unit to enable VC. We found that whilst there did need to be a change to the code at address 5F (Byte 24 , Bit 1 needs to be set), the MIB doesn't have the VC software as default from the factory. Some models (like some Audi models) do have this software inbuilt into the car's DNA- but not the mk7. This was for MIB ver1, but it sounds like the situation is the same for MIBII
Cheers
Don
Thanks Don, comprehensive answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by DV52
Anyone found a way to perhaps make it a mute button instead? Pressing it just gives it an annoying error message, may as well make it semi useful,,,,
Just had this installed via BurwinVW. Part number 5G0054802A.
The activation was done using function deactivation within the Offboard Diagnostic Information System Service. There is no way we are able to enable this using VCDS as this is a part of the component protection system submission to VW setup.
Process: The code from the booklet was entered in, a bunch of crap and a submission of the new coding to vw later with approval and it was done. The power on the headunit needed cycling by pressing and holding the power button on the radio for 10 seconds and that was it.
mythic: Interesting information - thanks for sharing!Quote:
Originally Posted by mythik
Somewhat surprised about the need to interface with Component Protection - I had thought that VW's FAZIT was used for this activity. I was aware that J794 (the infotainment unit in the glove box) was included in what VW calls the "constellation" of control modules for CP (in fact, all control modules that are connected to the MOST150 ring topology are covered by CP), but I'm surprised that adding the SD Card software for Voice Control involved resetting CP protocols - strange (IMO).
Before your post, I had thought that the only level of surveillance by the CAN Gateway for CP breaches was at a control module identity level. My understanding was that the CAN Gateway interrogates each of the control modules in the constellation at each ignition switch-on. If the identity of any of the control modules in the constellation are not identical to the identity at the previous ignition switch-on, CP errors were generated. Your information suggests that the interrogation protocols happen at a much deeper level than just the identity of the control module (i.e. it also includes features within the control module like VC) - Interesting and entirely new information - to me at least!!
Any new facts are always welcomed in the mysterious world of the mk7!!
Thanks again
Don
Just to be clear, there was no SD card. It was a piece of paper with an activation code on it only. The MY15 and earlier units may differ on this as my unit is the latest (3 weeks old - just arrived from Germany) and is a MY16.
All of that being said, importantly, it's terrible. Limited use. I just had to have the car complete because why the **** did they leave it out :(
mythic: OK, in my case, VC was added to the car (as a retrofit item) via an SD card that contained the actual voice commands. Hmm... more strange stuff - you are suggesting (I think) that modern mk7s actually have the VC software embedded in their DNA and all that is needed is an activation code-and CP error management - interesting! This may mean that a VCP cable could be used to activate VCQuote:
Originally Posted by mythik
Don
Don,Quote:
Originally Posted by DV52
I've confirmed this with Aaron from BurwinVW. The older gen units required a firmware update on an SD card to bring in the voice data with the maps (it was a big map/voice/firmware update).
The latest units shipping right here and now which are CarPlay enabled come with the correct firmware and maps and voice data such that component activation is the only thing determining YAY VOICES or booooooo no voices.
:)
So I have just put a deposit on an MY15.5 (well a very late MY15) GTI PP. This car is located 3 hours from me so all my dealings with the salesman have been over the phone.
I asked the salesman about Voice Control and he said he would get back to me. When he did, he said it was a factory option and it wasn't fitted to my car. He really had no idea, but to be fair to the guy, he has only been selling VWs for a month or so.
I have read the 20 pages of this thread and realise that Voice Control has limitations, but I do want the dealer to load it free of charge as part of my sales contract. I'm going to have to do this by email as I won't see my GTI PP until the day I pick it up, which could be more than a week away.
How do I know (or how can I ask the salesman) whether I have the latest SatNav update (V2?) and what do I have to do get the dealer to obtain the SD Card and do the software update which I understand is Part 5G0054802A to activate Voice Control?
Thanks for your help.
Paul