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veew Improved reversing camera... 07-03-2014, 03:53 PM
kamold The LED licence plate lights... 07-03-2014, 05:10 PM
The_Hawk I wonder if it's a crappier... 07-03-2014, 05:42 PM
DV52 Veew: In answer to your... 08-03-2014, 09:15 AM
AdamD When I fitted LED license... 08-03-2014, 11:47 AM
DV52 AdamD: OK. I hear what your... 08-03-2014, 12:38 PM
ziggyboy I concur. I fitted LED's... 11-03-2014, 12:16 PM
kamold I've got leds everywhere. ... 08-03-2014, 01:37 PM
veew Cheers for the responses so... 08-03-2014, 02:00 PM
Eaglehawk The important question for... 08-03-2014, 04:13 PM
DV52 Eglehawk: I assume that AdamD... 08-03-2014, 04:56 PM
veew I know what you're talking... 08-03-2014, 07:47 PM
Eaglehawk A very good point! All the... 08-03-2014, 09:37 PM
AdamD Just to emphasise this... 09-03-2014, 01:35 PM
DV52 Adam_D: Hmm.... thanks for... 09-03-2014, 10:44 PM
veew Ok, so got around to changing... 09-03-2014, 06:25 AM
Alex31 Just had a look at mine . No... 09-03-2014, 09:09 PM
DV52 Alex31: Guess you're not... 10-03-2014, 05:35 PM
veew Just came across this VCDS... 13-03-2014, 07:05 AM
DV52 Veew: I got mighty interested... 17-03-2014, 01:06 PM
GeckoZAO i got genuine LEDs and they... 17-03-2014, 01:35 PM
veew DV52, cheers for looking into... 17-03-2014, 02:45 PM
DV52 veew: My eagerness in looking... 17-03-2014, 03:38 PM
i286 As many other owners I was... 30-05-2014, 08:43 PM
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    Improved reversing camera view with LED plate number light mod

    Has anyone else felt the lighting behind the car (provided by the brake lights, reversing lights and fog lights) whilst using the reverse camera is insufficient in poorly lit streets/driveways? Although the rear fog light helps, I wonder if the rear plate number LED light mod would assist further.

    For those of you who have done the mod, have you noticed if there is improvement in the rear camera view?
    Where did you guys get your LEDs from and did they throw up any errors on your MFD?

    Am I right in assuming the number of LEDs would be proportional to the amount of lumens produced?

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    The LED licence plate lights will unlikely make much difference to rear visibility.
    You might be better off replacing the reversing globes with an LED version.
    I've done that with reasonable results. Plus they are much whiter which looks nice.
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    I wonder if it's a crappier camera than what was used before?

    The Pioneer reversing cam we have in the van is terrible at night, bloody terrible. The (supposedly) stock unit I imported and installed myself seems brilliant at night even though it doesn't seem to have any IR to help it along.


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    Quote Originally Posted by veew View Post
    Has anyone else felt the lighting behind the car (provided by the brake lights, reversing lights and fog lights) whilst using the reverse camera is insufficient in poorly lit streets/driveways? Although the rear fog light helps, I wonder if the rear plate number LED light mod would assist further.

    For those of you who have done the mod, have you noticed if there is improvement in the rear camera view?
    Where did you guys get your LEDs from and did they throw up any errors on your MFD?

    Am I right in assuming the number of LEDs would be proportional to the amount of lumens produced?
    Veew: In answer to your question, it's true that (in general) more LED means more lumens, But this is really only true if the different lamps have the same LED. Where you are comparing lights with different LEDs, the lumen ouput is determined by lots of factors including the efficiency of the diode. LEDS are a current device (they are not a voltage device), so another important factor is how hard the diode is driven. When you buy a diode pack that is integrated into the reflector, even more factors that come into play.

    I agree with Kamold that any additional. useful illumination from changing the number plate light will be marginal at best. The optics of the reflector in number plate light, plus its orientation means that it will do little to help the camera image (I think). If you get any additional light, it will most probably come from relections off the number plate itself.

    Changing the backing lights to LED type seems a more viable option, but have you tried changing the sensitivity of the camera. I recall that there are some adjustments that can be made in the "set-up" facility for the rear camera. I think colour saturation can be changed and maybe even contrast. Might be worth a try before you spend money buying new lights.
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    When I fitted LED license plate lights I noticed a substantial improvement in the quality of night vision from the rear view camera in my Mk6.

    Those who suggest the benefits are marginal have just not tried it, or have fitted dull LEDs. I initially installed RDash units (these were very bright and made a dramatic difference), and now use genuine VW items, which - whilst less bright - still constitute a big improvement over stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamD View Post
    When I fitted LED license plate lights I noticed a substantial improvement in the quality of night vision from the rear view camera in my Mk6.

    Those who suggest the benefits are marginal have just not tried it, or have fitted dull LEDs. I initially installed RDash units (these were very bright and made a dramatic difference), and now use genuine VW items, which - whilst less bright - still constitute a big improvement over stock.
    AdamD: OK. I hear what your saying, I would have thought that the prime role of the number plate llight would have been to direct the illumination onto the the verticle surface of the number plate. Not to illuminate the area at the back of the vehicle. I'm surprised that the "Spill" light was so effective. It's been a great many years since I studied lighting, but one of the first things that we were taught was the difference between illumination of things to be seen (like a number plate) and illumination for actually seeing (like backing lights). But I'm the first to admit that experience trumps theory every time!

    Notwithstanding the success of the number plate LEDS in your case, if you had the choice of replacing a set of lamps with LEDs (with the objective of increasing the illumination at the rear of the car). would you still opt for changing the number plate light, or the reversing lights?

    Incidentally, did you try adjusting the sensitivity of the camera before you fitted the LEDS and if so, what was the effect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamD View Post
    When I fitted LED license plate lights I noticed a substantial improvement in the quality of night vision from the rear view camera in my Mk6.
    I concur.

    I fitted LED's on my Jetta and the RVC visibility improved significantly at night. But don't just buy any LED. If you put some with the same brightness as a normal bulb it won't make a difference. I bought the T10 bulb with the most 5050 LED's, also, buy those that direct light on direction as opposed to "circular".

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    I've got leds everywhere. Proper projector led P21W globes for reverse lights will make a much bigger difference than incidental illumination from license plate led reflection but each to their own.

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    Cheers for the responses so far, I have not found any options to adjust for rear camera sensitivity over the past few weeks but will recheck once I finish work tonight.

    I'll look into what LED lights are required for the reversing lights in the Golf 7 and document my experiences with the different configurations (plate number light vs reversing light and both)

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    The important question for AdamD to answer, what sort of number plate have you got? Perhaps they have something more "white" and that ambient reflection off it would help the rear view.

    I'll post a picture of the rear camera with LED when I remember to...

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