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Thread: 2010 r36 cannot read engine module with VCDS

  1. #21
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    Bit of an update.
    Received my OBDeleven.
    Getting 2 engine faults recurring.

    P119A fuel pressure sensor malfunction.
    "upper limit exceeded"



    P1647 check coding/versions of control modules in drive train
    "implausible signal"

    I clear this and the engine stops rev hunting

    The second code is pretty much constant, the first comes and goes a bit

    Thoughts?
    Fuel rail pressure 40 bar at idle
    Fuel pump at idle 4.8 bar

    Fuel rail pressure 4000rpm in park 67bar

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    First fault is probably the sensor itself. I'd first try just unplugging it, check/clean contacts and reseat. If the fault returns replace the sensor:
    P119A/004506 - Ross-Tech Wiki

    Second fault indicates there is another control module on powertrain canbus that is not correctly coded.
    Do you have a fault in your ABS module?
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    ill have a play with the sensor.

    im pulling the clockspring assebly out for a look today.

    here is the rest of the log

    Fault
    Control unit: 01 Engine
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 1
    System description: CC3.6-FSI-EU5 G
    Software number: 03H906032FS
    Software version: 4855
    Hardware number: 03H906032AB
    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
    Faults:
    P1647 - Checking coding/versions of control modules in drivetrain Implausible signal
    Active




    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:29


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 02 Transmission
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 1
    System description: GSG DSG AG6 511
    Software number: 02E300012L
    Software version: 2103
    Hardware number: 02E927770AL
    Hardware version: F11
    Serial number: 00001005240165
    Faults:
    U0235 - Lost Communication With Cruise Control Front Distance Range Sensor
    Active




    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:29


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 03 Brakes
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 1
    System description: J104 C4 440 V2
    Software number: 3C0614109AF
    Software version: 0015
    Hardware number: 3C0614109AF
    Hardware version: K03
    Serial number: 00000705892119
    Faults:
    00778 - Steering angle sensor no or incorrect basic setting/adaptation
    Active




    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:29


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 08 Air Conditioning
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: Climatronic
    Software number: 5K0907044BT
    Software version: 0709
    Hardware number: 5K0907044BT
    Hardware version: H15
    ODX name: EV_Climatronic
    ODX version: A01006
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:30


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 09 Central Electrics
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: Bordnetz-SG H54
    Software number: 3C8937049E
    Software version: 2602
    Hardware number: 3C8937049E
    Hardware version: 063
    Serial number: 00000003986828
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:30


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 10 Parking Assistance 2
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: PARKHILFE 8K
    Software number: 3C8919475A
    Software version: 0009
    Hardware number: 3C8919475
    Hardware version: H07
    Serial number: 08791015951159
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:30


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 15 Airbag
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: J234__003 VW10 HI
    Software number: 5N0959655M
    Software version: 1916
    Hardware number: 5N0959655M *
    Hardware version: 003
    Serial number: 003GGPBZ36YK
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:30


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 16 Steering Column Electronics
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 4
    System description: LENKS.MODUL
    Software number: 5K0953569AS
    Software version: 0180
    Hardware number: 5K0953569AS
    Hardware version: 016
    Serial number: 20170503200509
    ODX name: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS
    ODX version: A03004
    Faults:
    B114411 - Turn signal switch Short circuit to ground
    Active
    B114913 - Windshield wiper intermittent mode switch Open circuit
    Active
    U108E00 - Control unit in steering wheel No Communication
    Active
    B116854 - Steering angle sensor No basic setting
    Active




    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:30


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 17 Dash Board
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: KOMBI
    Software number: 3C0920872J
    Software version: 0305
    Hardware number: 3C0920872J
    Hardware version: H03
    Serial number: 00000000000000
    ODX name: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09
    ODX version: A04052
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:31


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 19 Gateway
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: J533 Gateway H13
    Software number: 3C0907530Q
    Software version: 0172
    Hardware number: 3C0907951
    Serial number: 3620P1062404E7
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:31


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 22 All Wheel Control
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: Haldex 4Motion
    Software number: 0BS907554B
    Software version: 4015
    Hardware number: 0BS907554B
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:31


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 25 Immobilizer
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: IMMO 052
    Software number: 3C0959433AM
    Software version: 0383
    Hardware number: 3C0959433AM
    Hardware version: 008
    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:31


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 2E Media Player Position 3
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: SG EXT.PLAYER
    Software number: 5N0035342C
    Software version: 0111
    Hardware number: 5N0035342C
    Hardware version: H13
    Serial number: 7668204731
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:31


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 36 Seat Adjustment Driver Side
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: Sitzverstellung
    Software number: 3C0959760E
    Software version: 1101
    Hardware number: 3C0959760E
    Hardware version: 000
    Serial number: 00000000000000
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:31


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 42 Door Electronics Driver Side
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: TUER-SG FT
    Software number: 3C0959701A
    Software version: 0306
    Hardware number: 3C0959793A
    Hardware version: 002
    Serial number: 0000885207
    ODX name: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide
    ODX version: A03004
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:31


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 44 Steering Assistance
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 143
    Software number: 1K0909144J
    Software version: 3001
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:31
    VW rides: 04 R5 touareg (wifes), 05 R5 touareg (sold), 05 Passat sedan v6 (sold), 2010 r36 wagon, 68 beetle (sold)

    other rides: 00 Kawasaki ZX9R Ninja, Renault sport 225

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    Fault
    Control unit: 46 Central Module Comfort System
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 1
    System description: KSG PQ46 RDK 052
    Software number: 3C0959433AM
    Software version: 0412
    Hardware number: 3C0959433AM
    Hardware version: 008
    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
    Faults:
    01134 - Alarm horn
    Active




    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:32


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 47 Sound System
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    Software number: 5K0035456
    Software version: 0340
    Hardware number: 5K0035456
    Hardware version: H06
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:32


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 52 Door Electronics Passenger Side
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: TUER-SG BT
    Software number: 3C0959702A
    Software version: 0306
    Hardware number: 3C0959792A
    Hardware version: 002
    Serial number: 0000863534
    ODX name: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide
    ODX version: A03004
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:32


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 53 Parking Brake
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: J540 EPB3 VW-15417
    Software number: 3C8907801E
    Software version: 0007
    Hardware number: 3C8907801E
    Serial number: 00000000330261
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:32


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 55 Headlight Regulation
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: AFS-Steuergeraet
    Software number: 5M0907357C
    Software version: 0142
    Hardware number: 5M0907357C
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:32


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 56 Radio
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: Radio RCD510
    Software number: 5K0035190
    Software version: 0167
    Hardware number: 5K0035190
    Hardware version: 040
    Serial number: VWZ1Z3K3534089
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:33


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 65 Tire Pressure Monitoring
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: RDK
    Software number: 3C0959433AM
    Software version: 0453
    Hardware number: 3C0959433AM
    Hardware version: 008
    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:33


    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Fault
    Control unit: 69 Trailer Function
    Active faults: 0
    Inactive faults: 0
    System description: Anhaenger
    Software number: 1K0907383F
    Software version: 0100
    Hardware number: 1K0907383F
    Hardware version: H07
    Serial number: 00000131391164
    Faults:
    No trouble codes found


    Mileage: 210310 km
    Date: 2019-09-13 07:33
    VW rides: 04 R5 touareg (wifes), 05 R5 touareg (sold), 05 Passat sedan v6 (sold), 2010 r36 wagon, 68 beetle (sold)

    other rides: 00 Kawasaki ZX9R Ninja, Renault sport 225

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    Ok yep that other ecu fault is because you need to run steering angle sensor calibration.
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    so ive got the clock spring assembly apart and everything looks ok, no visible damage except when im pinning out the ribbon there is 2 pins apart from the rest ive assumed are CAN but they are bridged.
    generally that's not a good thing, the ribbon checks out, no breakages in itself.the only bit is the moulded plug where i cannot see whats happening.

    yeah, dunno.
    VW rides: 04 R5 touareg (wifes), 05 R5 touareg (sold), 05 Passat sedan v6 (sold), 2010 r36 wagon, 68 beetle (sold)

    other rides: 00 Kawasaki ZX9R Ninja, Renault sport 225

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    replacement bits en route
    VW rides: 04 R5 touareg (wifes), 05 R5 touareg (sold), 05 Passat sedan v6 (sold), 2010 r36 wagon, 68 beetle (sold)

    other rides: 00 Kawasaki ZX9R Ninja, Renault sport 225

  8. #28
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    Update, replacement bits fitted and working, had an intermittent fuel pressure fault but it boiled down to poorly seated inlet manifold gasket, such a minor leak still caused faults.

    Pays to double check, could have saved myself some time. Was bloody sure I got it right the first time but you get that.

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    It's amazing how small a leak can be and still cause an issue
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    Yeah for sure.... Quite a relief to get through all the issues!

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