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    1.4 engine swap

    I've been told that my 1.4TSI GT motor probably won't last much longer, and that I should get rid of the car asap. However I really like the car, and ideally would like to keep it. If the motor does die (as they apparently all do before 200,000), are there options for an engine swap? I know that if I keep the same size motor it won't be as much of a drama as putting in say a 2.0 GTI motor for example. So I'm asking if the 6R Polo GTI motor (CTH) would go in without too much dramas?
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    Is there anything wrong with it currently? Or just it's getting up in km's?

    Engine swaps aren't usually cheap unless you're doing it yourself. Chances are whatever you want to put in should get a full service/overhaul too. On carsales today GT's are listed for $6 - $10k... I'd put an engine swap into that same sort of range. I would absolutely not recommend spending any time or money on another twincharged engine. While the older GT's and the Polo's don't seem to have nearly the reported issues of the 118TSI Golf, it's not something I would consider a wise investment.

    One option would be to simply drive it until it dies one day then worry about it. You could get some money back parting it out (or selling it as is), but this would otherwise be a loss you're simply accepting at some point in the future.

    Otherwise, consider that you could sell it today then spend $10-$15k on lots of different Golf shaped options from MKVI even into MKVII's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Hawk View Post
    Is there anything wrong with it currently? Or just it's getting up in km's?

    Engine swaps aren't usually cheap unless you're doing it yourself. Chances are whatever you want to put in should get a full service/overhaul too. On carsales today GT's are listed for $6 - $10k... I'd put an engine swap into that same sort of range. I would absolutely not recommend spending any time or money on another twincharged engine. While the older GT's and the Polo's don't seem to have nearly the reported issues of the 118TSI Golf, it's not something I would consider a wise investment.

    One option would be to simply drive it until it dies one day then worry about it. You could get some money back parting it out (or selling it as is), but this would otherwise be a loss you're simply accepting at some point in the future.

    Otherwise, consider that you could sell it today then spend $10-$15k on lots of different Golf shaped options from MKVI even into MKVII's.
    Thanks for the response. According to the mechanic, the motor is 'fluffy' when it's cold, which may indicate ring issues or possibly piston issues. It still drives fine, and pulls really well under boost when I give it a boot when warmed up. Ideally I don't want to wait till it dies, but that could be 2 years away or tomorrow, who knows. Selling it might be my best, cut my losses, option.
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    Find a new mechanic. Drive it until is breaks down. Get roadside assistance cover. Warm it up before you drive. “Fluffy” sounds like an odd thing for a mechanic to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdManFJ View Post
    Thanks for the response. According to the mechanic, the motor is 'fluffy' when it's cold, which may indicate ring issues or possibly piston issues. It still drives fine, and pulls really well under boost when I give it a boot when warmed up. Ideally I don't want to wait till it dies, but that could be 2 years away or tomorrow, who knows. Selling it might be my best, cut my losses, option.
    The symptoms could be due to sparkplugs. check this out.101 905 626 is now been replaced on the 118Kw 1.4TSi engine by 03C 905 601A(101 905 626A)

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    Is it using any oil?
    I’d pay a workshop that knows these engines to do a compression test and a leak down test to further diagnose the issue. This will tell you more about the engine condition.
    It could be carbon build up on the inlet valves causing poor idle or a pcv valve issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passat my07 View Post
    Is it using any oil?
    I’d pay a workshop that knows these engines to do a compression test and a leak down test to further diagnose the issue. This will tell you more about the engine condition.
    It could be carbon build up on the inlet valves causing poor idle or a pcv valve issue?
    No, oil use is not an issue. The mechanic was the local area VW specialist. Based on what he charged me for the service, I don't think he diagnosed it too far. I did ask him about carbon build up and he said it's not generally an issue for the 1.4's, unlike to 2.0's.
    Might be worth booking it in for a proper check.
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