I'm sure they are on a great profit margin.Quote:
Originally Posted by donweather
When I was in retail I used to push the products taht had the most effect on my bonus - which usually meant pushing the best profit margin lines.
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I'm sure they are on a great profit margin.Quote:
Originally Posted by donweather
When I was in retail I used to push the products taht had the most effect on my bonus - which usually meant pushing the best profit margin lines.
I'm using Gyeon on the Octavia and AutoGlym Hardwax on the wife's Mazda3
Similar results really - probably the Gyeon will last longer than the hard wax
I would say the Gyeon is not as hydrophobic as I had hoped
It demo's well with a hose, but so does the hard wax
At 70kmph I still have some morning dew clinging to the bonnet
I use Wolfgang deep gloss sealant 3.0 and it's one of the glossiest sealants I've seen. Doesn't last as long as the ceramic nano sealants, but it's very easy to apply, and gives fantastic results for 4-6 months depending on how the car is kept. Seems to bead really well too.
I've got a much more complete kit now, so will seal the new car when it arrives, and all the extra kit I have (plus will use dodo juice red most after washing to help extend sealant life) should see an easy 6 months from the sealant. Might give some wax a crack over the top for more protection, but being a white car, not expecting the paintwork to 'pop' like it did on the race blue like last time.
IMO, I think there will be minimal difference between good products, and your own routine and care will make more difference.
Martin I agree about the gyeon. It didn't look anywhere near as hydrophobic as the Nanolex in the YouTube footage I saw. Ultra Nanolex is supposed to last for up to 36 mths now so that's got me sold!!!
^ this. In each class (coating, sealant, wax) the good offerings will all work and last well with only minor differences IME, providing they are maintained. Coatings need the least maintenance but aren't force shields.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTR27
That's what we are talking about, beading is one thing but we really need the surface to be hydrophobic (water can't cling to the surface, runs off really easy) because if the water sits there (wet coat or beading) and evaporates it will leave behind the chemicals and can etch into the paintQuote:
Originally Posted by GTR27
Yes, I love Nanolex on the windscreen, looks like I will have to try it on the paintworkQuote:
Originally Posted by donweather
Beading is a side affect of being hydrophobic. The better it beads, the easier the water runs off. Sealants and waxes IMO provide slightly better beading than ceramics, but obviously don't last as long.
Coatings tend to be hydrophilic, sheets the water off.
Waxes and sealants tend to be hydrophobic, rolls the water off.
At the end of the day, same same but different.
Actually Nanolex is superhydrophobic (contact angle greater than 150 deg) which results in more contaminants being picked up and carried away by strong water beading rather than deposited in situ.
Gyeon Moh has a contact angle of 85 deg, hence it's defined as hydrophillic.....not superhydrophillic.