T4 Needs New Clutch....Reccomendations!

[millencolin]

Hey everyone my 2.5 TDi needs a new clutch as the one in now is sliping, just wondering if i need to be looking out for anything ie brand, type, heavy duty etc....also anything else i should change while i am at it...
do i need to change the CONCENTRIC SLAVE CYLINDER what ever it is how important is it to change etc...
i wont be going the change my self i have a mechanic who used to work on vw but thought i would ask here for advice he might not offer.

Thanks
alen

[6thgear]

regards the clutch, i usually just go with an exedy which are quite reputable. think they only come standard duty though, havent done one for the t4 yet!

[Golf Loon]

Your van has a dual mass flywheel which you need to change in unison with the clutch.
This will limit your options for upgrades and will be expensive.
I have experimented with solid flywheel and heavy duty clutches in my van, but there are clearance issues depending which flywheel and box combo you use. The standard dual mass is the smoothest to drive and is ok. My van works hard and I tow stuff with it and it is alrigh.
Yes you must also do the slave cylinder as it is inside the box and if it fails, the box will have to come out again.

[millencolin]

Just for future if anyone searches and reads this thread i ended up getting a Valeo KIT; fly wheel clutch the whole deal nuts bolts screws hydrulic cylinder thingy and installed for $2000 now i know the mechanic and he owed me a few favours so i belive this was discounted but not sure by how much...i belive valeo is an ok brand as my compressor motor and coil inside the car are same brand and they look stock.

Cheers.
Alen


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[jets]

Wow,I hope mine keeps working OK. Did you get any breakdown of how much the parts cost & how much was labour?
Thanks for coming back & reposting what you finally finished with.

[millencolin]

i believe the kit was $1700 also apparently its not the double fly wheel type any more, still drives the same to me though.

cheers
Alen

[jets]

I did a quick search on ebay UK & found one supplier with a genuine VW kit icluding DMF. He would supply with the release brg & postage to Aust. for 500 pounds [A$800] Now I know there is probably duty to be paid & you have to wait for it to arrive, but the savings can be considerable if you want to go to the trouble.
I found some comments from another supplier [who was dearer] about dual mass flywheels that I found interesting.[scroll down to the bottom]

VW TRANSPORTER T4 2.5TDI DUAL MASS FLYWHEEL CLUTCH KIT on eBay (end time 03-Nov-10 21:44:17 GMT)

[millencolin]

Yeah just saw this pretty good,i doesnt include the slave cylinder but its just 89€ extra.
i did have a look on ebay at the time but i just never dealt with the clutch before so was not 100% on getting one my self but tell you what next time ill know where ill be getting it from......
Hope fully this will save some one some money.

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[02mick]

hi fella's, sorry for digging up an old thread but there is a lot of mixed stories on the results or drivability of cars/van's after the are converters from dmf to smf, i figured both golf loon and million collin cantell us/me weather they are still happy with the conversion and or if there gearboxes where damaged ?
i had a look at the website of darksidedevelopements that using there smf kit if of no risk, than i read a whole heap of horror stories of folk that reckon it was not a good idea.
if company's like exedy and darksidedevelopment say its save to go that way i suppose it should be allright or should i stick with dmf what are your experiences ?
thanks, mick

[Sunny43.5]

From my limited knowledge the main reason for the DMF was to reduce the "throb" that the diesel engines make , I only found out my T5 2.0 lt petrol powered one had the DMF "after" I had changed the clutch . It seemed pointless to fit a DMF when its not needed but I suppose VW wanted to make one type only to fit all models . Mine started to shudder around 50.000 kms when I attempted to reverse up a hill and ever since that day it has been the same . These days with some clever clutch and throttle control I can get a reasonable take off in reverse but often I can smell clutch material . I would not have hesitated in fitting a solid one if I had known before hand , apparently from reading on some forums that the DMF has on occasions failed with catastrophic results . It will basically blow the side out of the gear box housing with shrapnel if it lets go at speed .