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Welcome to VWwA Wino j:

You have great taste in going after the Caddy Life Camper with TDI/DSG combo :o

Sad about your Bora experience unfortunately that was part of VGAs restructuring at that time, without it they would not be making record sales.

You can be assured they won't be doing that again anytime soon to my knowledge ;) :D

got mine in about July 03

I've been trying to decide if I should keep my T4 or get something else .. if I keep it I will do some modifications for sure

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Originally Posted by phaeton

Welcome to VWwA Wino j:

You have great taste in going after the Caddy Life Camper with TDI/DSG combo :o

Sad about your Bora experience unfortunately that was part of VGAs restructuring at that time, without it they would not be making record sales.

You can be assured they won't be doing that again anytime soon to my knowledge ;) :D

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that is horse sh#t! (no offence intended towards you personally )
VGA should have done the right thing and made an offer to people who bought the bora (just like holden did with those who bought the adventurer, for example)
Shafting existing costomers has never had anything to do with restructuring in my experience.

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Originally Posted by Wino

I've been trying to decide if I should keep my T4 or get something else .. if I keep it I will do some modifications for sure

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I've been going through the same wonderment of late. The biggest problem is the lack of a suitable alternative.....and the disasterous re-sale value of the T4.

The Iveco is a thing of envy but it is just going to be too expensive and not as everyday practical as the DOKA.

So I think I'll invest in modifying the DOKA.....things like a diesel/gas conversion, new front seats (some KAB suspension seats perhap), new centre console, undertray boxes, new sound system.......

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Originally Posted by Wino

that is horse sh#t! (no offence intended towards you personally )
VGA should have done the right thing and made an offer to people who bought the bora (just like holden did with those who bought the adventurer, for example)
Shafting existing costomers has never had anything to do with restructuring in my experience.

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You'll have to forgive me for not reading all of the posts ;)

I didn't realise Holden sent refunds to owners when there was a change in pricing.

I now agree VGA should have done the same :)

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Originally Posted by phaeton

I didn't realise Holden sent refunds to owners when there was a change in pricing.

I now agree VGA should have done the same :)

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I agree, they have certainly caused financial loss for those that bought prior to the price reduction. In the back of my mind I get the feeling that there are other precedents where in similar circumstances refunds have been made but there appears to be no legal obligation as can be seen the story detailed in this link where Hyundai dropped prices after a runout sale.

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...rticleID=29274

Cheers

George

it has not soured me enough to totally discount the VW range in regards to future cars we purchase (in the space if 2yrs we bought $140k worth of VW only the bora was leased, the T4 and Golf were paid cash out of savings) ..but! it sure as hell left a bad taste in my mouth. And since we use the wifes car as a tax offset, the amount we spend on her car is continually going up... when she finds out how much her little bora isn't worth I think she'll march straight into the BMW dealer. So for the sake of a couple of grand, VGA won't see a toureg sale (for example) and this has a flow on effect, I like to keep my dealings with a single dealership (I usually find I get looked after much better by the dealer this way).. so I probably won't to upgrade to a T5....all this has nothing to do with the cars, or the service costs or the price of the new cars. I can't see how this has been a smart move on the part of VGA.

Just to make things clear, we love our VW's, they're great cars.

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Originally Posted by Wino

Just to make things clear, we love our VW's, they're great cars.

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Here here! I don't have issues with VW itself, but I could write a book about the issues I have had with dealerships. Right from the time I first walked in until today it has been a litany of incompetence. Only the fact that the car itself is just so damned good keeps me from turning away from VW.

Cheers

George

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Originally Posted by VW Convert

I agree, they have certainly caused financial loss for those that bought prior to the price reduction. In the back of my mind I get the feeling that there are other precedents where in similar circumstances refunds have been made but there appears to be no legal obligation as can be seen the story detailed in this link where Hyundai dropped prices after a runout sale.

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...rticleID=29274

Cheers

George

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at the risk of sounding like a winger...

this is not the first timer VGA has done this... remember the first of the R32's .. they were ~$85k!!!.. then dropped to ~$67 18 months or so later (I could be wrong on the time frame, but it wasn't a "long" time

that's it for me on the topic.. I'd much rather discuss the fine merits of these cars than harp on about thier pricing policy. Thanks to those who understood my need to have my little rant j:

ohhh.. in the VAG site there is an 03 passat W8 4motion .. I could really dig one of those !!:D
http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsa...lectedUsedCars

Yes, we all need to get things off our chest from time to time but you are right, we should be focusing on the many positives of the worlld of VW.


Cheers

George