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Thread: Sharkie's TSI Amarok Build

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    My Stock Amarok 16"s were 32" kg's each (with tyres) on my Rok, I know have 18" ATS rims & 32.5" All Terrains, they weigh 39kg's a corner.

    Load ratings are going to mean a certain mass with wheel / tyre that won't be easily overcome.

    Doesn't worry me too much as I have a canopy, water tank, steel bullbar, winch, dual batteries etc etc....

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    Unsprung weight v sprung weight.

    isn't the rule of thumb that 1kg of unsprung weight is equal to about 2.5kg of sprung weight? Plus the rotational inertia that has to be overcome.

    I can see your point though. I once spent an afternoon swiss-cheesing & deburring the panels on a Cortina a mate raced. Possibly I pulled 1 or 2 kilos out of the panels. The driver was a BFF and weighed about 140kg. No amount of panel drilling was going to offset the tub of lard in the drivers seat.
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    So ...... we are well down the track of finalising the Stg 1 tune for the TSI Amarok .....

    Bear in mind that this is really the last of the Gen 2 EA888s and in the Amarok with totally different hardware (stock FMIC, intake and exhaust all "better" and exhaust camshaft & turbo different) than any FWD engined EA888 VAG vehicle, closest comparison really a Q5 2.0TFSI.

    Not releasing any official numbers as yet, but as a teaser .....

    APR Stg 2 Mk6 GTI makes 174kw/380NM at the hubs on APR's hub dyno ..... what do you think the TSI Amarok makes ? ......

    APR Stg 3 (K04) Tiguan makes 204kw/418NM at the hubs on APR's hub dyno ..... what do you think the TSI Amarok makes ? ......
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    Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP (mods are underway ) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI Trendline manual White (with mods now 150TSI) 2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 10 Previous VWs and some others ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkie View Post
    So ...... we are well down the track of finalising the Stg 1 tune for the TSI Amarok .....

    Bear in mind that this is really the last of the Gen 2 EA888s and in the Amarok with totally different hardware (stock FMIC, intake and exhaust all "better" and exhaust camshaft & turbo different) than any FWD engined EA888 VAG vehicle, closest comparison really a Q5 2.0TFSI.

    Not releasing any official numbers as yet, but as a teaser .....

    APR Stg 2 Mk6 GTI makes 174kw/380NM at the hubs on APR's hub dyno ..... what do you think the TSI Amarok makes ? ......

    APR Stg 3 (K04) Tiguan makes 204kw/418NM at the hubs on APR's hub dyno ..... what do you think the TSI Amarok makes ? ......
    How can we know?? you are the one should know it

    Let me take a guess... mmm 151kw ?

    Sharkie's TSI Amarok Build-20tsivl_long_stage1_93_crank_s-jpg
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    2013 Tiguan 155kW DSG | Leather | Bi Xenon's | Park Assist 2.0 | Panoramic Sunroof | RCD 510 | RVC | MDI
    Mods: APR K04 v3.1 | HPA Haldex | S3 Intercooler | Custom 3" Quad Tip Exhaust | Carbonio Intake | WL HD RSB | GFB DV+ | Koni Yellow Sport Struts & Eibach Springs | HP LCAs | Custom Audio ( Alpine MRX V70 , Audison Bit Ten , Dynamat , Stealth Sub ) | Car Tablet | CB Radio | Sports Pedals | RLine Door Sills | Wheel Arch Extensions | 3 Bar MAP & BKR8EIX | RT VCDS .... Performance: 0 - 100 km/h, 5.0 seconds ( Racelogic PBox tested ) Tiguan Build Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramee View Post
    How can we know?? you are the one should know it

    Let me take a guess... mmm 151kw ?

    Sharkie's TSI Amarok Build-20tsivl_long_stage1_93_crank_s-jpg
    More .....

    Quite a bit more actually ......

    Hint: kw somewhere between the 2 above, torque more than both .......
    Last edited by Sharkie; 05-07-2014 at 01:29 PM.
    Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP (mods are underway ) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI Trendline manual White (with mods now 150TSI) 2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 10 Previous VWs and some others ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkie View Post
    More .....

    Quite a bit more actually ......

    Hint: kw somewhere between the 2 above, torque more than both .......
    ah! I thought it would generate same power as AUDI Q5 2.0 TSI APR Stage 1.

    Anyways then a second guess 189kw at the hubs. ( pure assumption )
    2013 Tiguan 155kW DSG | Leather | Bi Xenon's | Park Assist 2.0 | Panoramic Sunroof | RCD 510 | RVC | MDI
    Mods: APR K04 v3.1 | HPA Haldex | S3 Intercooler | Custom 3" Quad Tip Exhaust | Carbonio Intake | WL HD RSB | GFB DV+ | Koni Yellow Sport Struts & Eibach Springs | HP LCAs | Custom Audio ( Alpine MRX V70 , Audison Bit Ten , Dynamat , Stealth Sub ) | Car Tablet | CB Radio | Sports Pedals | RLine Door Sills | Wheel Arch Extensions | 3 Bar MAP & BKR8EIX | RT VCDS .... Performance: 0 - 100 km/h, 5.0 seconds ( Racelogic PBox tested ) Tiguan Build Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramee View Post
    Anyways then a second guess 189kw at the hubs. ( pure assumption )
    Pretty good guess, close but still a few kw low ......

    Anyway you get the idea .... best stg 1 gen 2 EA888 result ever.....

    Full results in due course to be released by APR.

    At this stage we just don't know what to expect from stg 2 ..... lots more, or just a bit?
    Last edited by Sharkie; 05-07-2014 at 01:49 PM.
    Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP (mods are underway ) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI Trendline manual White (with mods now 150TSI) 2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 10 Previous VWs and some others ...

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    I'll have a guess at 'just a bit'... But holding that peak power to 6000RPM instead of tapering off at 4500RPM.

    Nice work as usual Sharkie!
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    Looks good Sharkie

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    Thanks guys .....

    Well I can now confirm that with a perfect change 2nd to 3rd an easy mid 6s 0-100 is possible in a stg1 TSI. With a more leisurely 2nd to 3rd (best to protect the box) consistent low 7s are achievable (all Racelogic confirmed) ...... pretty quick for a close to 2 ton dual cab ute
    Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP (mods are underway ) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI Trendline manual White (with mods now 150TSI) 2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 10 Previous VWs and some others ...

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