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    Most powerful legal non HID blub that can be fitted

    Not sure what the standard halogen blubs used in the polo 2012-13 models are, but can I change to a higher wattage?

    I've heard the highest legal non HIB blub is 100w?

    Maybe even go for a light blue tint hahahaha.

    correction: non xenon... i think HID and xenon are different right?

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    H7 55w is the standard

    Personal I don't like the blue ones as there annoying when coming at you.
    Just get some Phillips xtreme vision 100% or osram nightbreakers. Don't worry about HID.
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    nice, is it really 100% brighter?

    also, is it h7 and not h4? powerblubs.com seems to list the h4 for the polos

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    Quote Originally Posted by cappuccino View Post
    Not sure what the standard halogen blubs used in the polo 2012-13 models are, but can I change to a higher wattage?
    Yes you can, as fitting high wattage bulbs is not illegal.

    However, it will render the vehicle unroadworthy - i.e. unfit for use on the public highway.

    A more bigger concern would be the possibility of a 80W, 90W or 100W halogen bulb causing damage to the headlamp housing (especially to any plastic components) and the wiring assembly, due to the bulb's current draw and heat output.

    Quote Originally Posted by cappuccino View Post
    I've heard the highest legal non HIB blub is 100w?
    AFAIK, no automotive halogen bulb with a rated wattage of 100 that I'm aware of is approved for use on the highway.

    Quote Originally Posted by cappuccino View Post
    Maybe even go for a light blue tint hahahaha.
    A blue coating by itself only acts to reduce total light output.

    Quote Originally Posted by cappuccino View Post
    correction: non xenon... i think HID and xenon are different right?
    Gas-discharge bulbs, also known as high intensity discharge bulbs, are usually filled with noble gases, such as xenon.

    Halogen bulbs are usually filled with halogen gases (hence the name), such as iodine or bromide. But in addition, they are sometimes also filled with noble gases as well, such as xenon.

    Quote Originally Posted by cappuccino View Post
    nice, is it really 100% brighter?
    The "plus" ratings used by the manufacturers refer to the amount of light on the road measured at a distance between 50 m to 100 m (I think) from the vehicle. These higher plus ratings are mostly achieved by using a thinner filament and using a more advanced gas filling, allowing the bulb to burn hotter and brighter - which also has a negative impact on life span.

    The actual luminous flux rating (total light output, measured in lumens) doesn't change much, or at least, there is certainly not a 50%, 80% or 100% increase in luminous flux - unless light bulbs aren't subject to the laws of physics.

    Quote Originally Posted by cappuccino View Post
    also, is it h7 and not h4? powerblubs.com seems to list the h4 for the polos
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

    Models with a combined dipped and main beam lens use one dual-filament H4 60/55W bulb per headlamp (Trendline).
    Models with a separate dipped and main beam lens use two single-filament H7 55W bulbs per headlamp (Comfortline & GTI).

    If your vehicle uses H4 bulbs, consider the Osram 70/65W bulb (product code 64205).
    If your vehicle uses H7 bulbs, consider the Osram 65W bulb (product code 64217).

    Note that both products would technically render the vehicle unroadworthy, because they don't have a ECE mark, but the chances of getting caught would be very slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_vert View Post
    Yes you can, as fitting high wattage bulbs is not illegal.

    However, it will render the vehicle unroadworthy - i.e. unfit for use on the public highway.

    A more bigger concern would be the possibility of a 80W, 90W or 100W halogen bulb causing damage to the headlamp housing (especially to any plastic components) and the wiring assembly, due to the bulb's current draw and heat output.



    AFAIK, no automotive halogen bulb with a rated wattage of 100 that I'm aware of is approved for use on the highway.



    A blue coating by itself only acts to reduce total light output.



    Gas-discharge bulbs, also known as high intensity discharge bulbs, are usually filled with noble gases, such as xenon.

    Halogen bulbs are usually filled with halogen gases (hence the name), such as iodine or bromide. But in addition, they are sometimes also filled with noble gases as well, such as xenon.



    The "plus" ratings used by the manufacturers refer to the amount of light on the road measured at a distance between 50 m to 100 m (I think) from the vehicle. These higher plus ratings are mostly achieved by using a thinner filament and using a more advanced gas filling, allowing the bulb to burn hotter and brighter - which also has a negative impact on life span.

    The actual luminous flux rating (total light output, measured in lumens) doesn't change much, or at least, there is certainly not a 50%, 80% or 100% increase in luminous flux - unless light bulbs aren't subject to the laws of physics.



    Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

    Models with a combined dipped and main beam lens use one dual-filament H4 60/55W bulb per headlamp (Trendline).
    Models with a separate dipped and main beam lens use two single-filament H7 55W bulbs per headlamp (Comfortline & GTI).

    If your vehicle uses H4 bulbs, consider the Osram 70/65W bulb (product code 64205).
    If your vehicle uses H7 bulbs, consider the Osram 65W bulb (product code 64217).

    Note that both products would technically render the vehicle unroadworthy, because they don't have a ECE mark, but the chances of getting caught would be very slim.
    This is all the info you you need to answer your question. You can get up to 130W bulbs but as stated, they are not allowable on public roads for main beams, highbeams are different but due to the proximity to the reflector and the entire housing being made of various plastics, fair cahnce that a 130W bulb will actually start to break down the light, they get that hot.

    As Deisel_vert pointed out, blue tinted bulbs and all the stuff about +50 and +100 is marketing rubbish. They do nothing for light output. I have tried many , many different halogen bulbs in my old mk4 golf because the lights were rubbish and the only 1 I found that was semi-satisfactory was the osram/narva nightbreaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_vert View Post
    Yes you can, as fitting high wattage bulbs is not illegal.

    However, it will render the vehicle unroadworthy - i.e. unfit for use on the public highway.
    This should be a sticky somewhere. Totally correct.

    for Gav:

    There have been a number of comparisons on +30 +50 +100% bulbs. They do indeed have different performances.

    Headlight bulbs tested | Auto Express
    Last edited by pologti18t; 23-05-2013 at 01:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_vert View Post
    Yes you can, as fitting high wattage bulbs is not illegal.

    However, it will render the vehicle unroadworthy - i.e. unfit for use on the public highway.

    A more bigger concern would be the possibility of a 80W, 90W or 100W halogen bulb causing damage to the headlamp housing (especially to any plastic components) and the wiring assembly, due to the bulb's current draw and heat output.



    AFAIK, no automotive halogen bulb with a rated wattage of 100 that I'm aware of is approved for use on the highway.



    A blue coating by itself only acts to reduce total light output.



    Gas-discharge bulbs, also known as high intensity discharge bulbs, are usually filled with noble gases, such as xenon.

    Halogen bulbs are usually filled with halogen gases (hence the name), such as iodine or bromide. But in addition, they are sometimes also filled with noble gases as well, such as xenon.



    The "plus" ratings used by the manufacturers refer to the amount of light on the road measured at a distance between 50 m to 100 m (I think) from the vehicle. These higher plus ratings are mostly achieved by using a thinner filament and using a more advanced gas filling, allowing the bulb to burn hotter and brighter - which also has a negative impact on life span.

    The actual luminous flux rating (total light output, measured in lumens) doesn't change much, or at least, there is certainly not a 50%, 80% or 100% increase in luminous flux - unless light bulbs aren't subject to the laws of physics.



    Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

    Models with a combined dipped and main beam lens use one dual-filament H4 60/55W bulb per headlamp (Trendline).
    Models with a separate dipped and main beam lens use two single-filament H7 55W bulbs per headlamp (Comfortline & GTI).

    If your vehicle uses H4 bulbs, consider the Osram 70/65W bulb (product code 64205).
    If your vehicle uses H7 bulbs, consider the Osram 65W bulb (product code 64217).

    Note that both products would technically render the vehicle unroadworthy, because they don't have a ECE mark, but the chances of getting caught would be very slim.
    Thanks for that detailed response, very helpful.

    I have the comfortline so looks like I do need the H7.

    are the phillips xtreme vision / osram nightbreakers / Osram 65W bulb bulbs road worthy? as well as road worthy for highway driving.

    do they make a difference from the standard bulbs?

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    I got the Osram night breakers they are certainly better but in less than 2 years both globes both blew within a week of each other. So at least they seem to be consistently engineered

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    RE: Most powerful legal non HID blub that can be fitted

    There is normally some sort of disclaimer on the box for the bulbs if the are for highway use or not. It is a USA term adopted widely. Off highway use means it can't be used on any public road. I think I will stick with my 35 watt headlights
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    Most powerful legal non HID blub that can be fitted

    Quote Originally Posted by pologti18t View Post
    This should be a sticky somewhere. Totally correct.

    for Gav:

    There have been a number of comparisons on +30 +50 +100% bulbs. They do indeed have different performances.

    Headlight bulbs tested | Auto Express
    Yeah, and I sat on a country road at night with a series of different bulbs and the +100 wasn't twice as good as a standard h7 bulb, even though it was twice the price. The best halogen bulb you can get is a Xenophot bulb but they're only available in driving lights.

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