Bi-Xenons with LED running lights - upgrade to non-xenon cars?

**sVWatt** · 14-02-2011, 08:14 PM

OEM Bi-Xenon Headlights with LED. For VW Polo 6r 2009+ listed on eBay.

Roughly $1600 a pair. Is that good?

Recon we could get it down to $1400 with a couple of buyers...

...thoughts?

**Corey_R** · 14-02-2011, 08:19 PM

Keep in mind, that if you wish for your car to still be road legal/road worthy, you'll also need to get the headlight washers, headlight motors, and all the sensors which need to be placed around the car (or whereever they go in the Polo GTI) to perform the auto-leveling functions (which is dynamic as the car is driving, hence the need for sensors).

Without the sensors/motors and washers, your car is illegal in Australia with Xenons.

Thus far in history, you cannot install Xenons cheaper aftermarket than from the factory. This may eventually change, but that's still the case at the Golf level at least...

**JaneAusten** · 14-02-2011, 08:20 PM

I think the problem is making it legal, meaning all the other components need to be installed into the bumper. Like the self-leveling thingy and the washing thingy.

**sVWatt** · 14-02-2011, 08:23 PM

Cricky
How come it 'needs' to be self leveling. I would have thought the angle / alignment was a legal requirement, and that was it.

What has headlight washers got to do with keeping Xenons legal ?

There goes my Monday happy dreams

**JaneAusten** · 14-02-2011, 08:30 PM

Corey, thanks for ruining my one chance to sound smart on this forum. Happy motoring.

**sVWatt** · 14-02-2011, 08:40 PM

Smart is keeping each other posted. I am learning heaps - cheers.

As far as I know $1600 is list price when fitted as a option from the factory. You'd want much better than $1400 IMO

So can I order with the dealer now and they can fir for me - all parts needed - or is it from the manufacturer only at that price ?

**Corey_R** · 14-02-2011, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by 77kw polo tdi

So can I order with the dealer now and they can fir for me - all parts needed - or is it from the manufacturer only at that price ?

Factory orders only unfortunately. I don't believe that most (any?) dealers would install them at all....

**Corey_R** · 14-02-2011, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by JaneAusten

Corey, thanks for ruining my one chance to sound smart on this forum. Happy motoring.

lol.. sorry!

Originally Posted by 77kw polo tdi

Cricky
How come it 'needs' to be self leveling. I would have thought the angle / alignment was a legal requirement, and that was it.

What has headlight washers got to do with keeping Xenons legal ?

There goes my Monday happy dreams

Sorry!
Regular headlights are "reflective" lights. So the light basically shines backwards and sidewards to the "reflector" which then has multiple faces which reflects it forward over a wide spread.
Xenon headlights are projector lights. You have a lens which highly focuses and projects the light forward. If you have dirt on the plastic headlight cover in front of the lens, it can cause light refractions which can blind oncoming drivers. Hence the requirement for headlight washers.
Also, due to the light being very intense, and them being "projecting", there is a very distinct upper cut-off in the projection so that it doesn't go into oncoming drivers eyes. But this means when you go over bumps or humps etc that it needs to firstly lower the lights (to keep out of drivers eyes) and then raise the lights (so that you can see more than 2 metres ahead) etc.

The main reasons that these kits exist is that not all countries require washers or self-leveling. But in Australia, both are required by our ADRs.

**sVWatt** · 14-02-2011, 08:53 PM

Just spoke with the UK ebayer and he says some programing and extra equip is necessary ... So it's a no go for sure.

Thanks for the enlightening insights...no pun