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    Replacing Dog Bone and Control Arm Bushes

    Hi Everyone

    Cars due for a service and I was thinking of ordering some super pro parts to get installed at the same time, would be great to get some feedback on these parts.

    I remember reading about the below SuperPro "Sports" Dogbone bush and people saying they don't get the vibration on idle that you do with the APR mount, does anyone have one that can comment?
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    I read a thread a few months back about replacing the control arms, but figured the bushes would be the next best thing at a fraction of the cost, does replacing these help with torque steer under power?
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    What sort of time is involved in installing these parts ?

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    2016 Golf R, APR Stage 1
    2010 Polo GTI 9n3, 4 Program APR Tune, PD160, White line front and rear sway bar

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    Quote Originally Posted by flat6 View Post
    Hi Everyone

    Cars due for a service and I was thinking of ordering some super pro parts to get installed at the same time, would be great to get some feedback on these parts.

    I remember reading about the below SuperPro "Sports" Dogbone bush and people saying they don't get the vibration on idle that you do with the APR mount, does anyone have one that can comment?
    SuperPro Parts

    I read a thread a few months back about replacing the control arms, but figured the bushes would be the next best thing at a fraction of the cost, does replacing these help with torque steer under power?
    SuperPro Parts

    What sort of time is involved in installing these parts ?

    Cheers
    The bushes at the front of the wishbone are much less of a problem. Its the rear ones that are the weak link.

    There's a special VW tool for fitting the rear bushes, have a look through my cheapy thread.

    I have a extra stiff mount in my dog bone and it is buzzy in the cabin. The 70k one would be better in that respect, if not the best compromise.

    Speaks to you service people about the fitting.

    Gavin

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    Quote Originally Posted by flat6 View Post
    Hi Everyone

    Cars due for a service and I was thinking of ordering some super pro parts to get installed at the same time, would be great to get some feedback on these parts.

    I remember reading about the below SuperPro "Sports" Dogbone bush and people saying they don't get the vibration on idle that you do with the APR mount, does anyone have one that can comment?
    SuperPro Parts

    I read a thread a few months back about replacing the control arms, but figured the bushes would be the next best thing at a fraction of the cost, does replacing these help with torque steer under power?
    SuperPro Parts

    What sort of time is involved in installing these parts ?

    Cheers
    YES TO EVERYTHING.

    Get the 70 Shore Superpro bush for the dogbone mount and you'll only ever notice increased vibration whilst stationary with aircon on (minimal).

    Definitely get the control arm bushes as the stock arms themselves aren't worth upgrading.

    Allow a couple of hours labour

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    Thx Gav, Got the idea from your thread

    Yep the 70k seems like a good compromise, cars on the road more than the track, since chipping it the stock mount takes a bit of a bashing..

    So its best to get the rears or replace both front and rear bushes?
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    2010 Polo GTI 9n3, 4 Program APR Tune, PD160, White line front and rear sway bar

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    the Dog bone (not really a dog bone shape on the Polo) can be done yourself without major tools. I would only go 70shore.
    I had the whiteline rear control arm bushes, would suggest you go with the Seat ones unless you want the caster altering version.

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    So its not too hard to do the front engine bush yourself? Might try finding a guide to it and having a shot at it

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    Got some quotes from Bursons
    Engine Bush - SPF2907-70K $80
    Front control arm bushes - SPF3311k - $81
    Rears Control arm Bushes - SPF3273k $158,
    regarding the caster alteration, they are quoted as "Anti Lift Kit; Fits OE housing # " The race version alters the caster I believe

    Was quoted $165 for the mechanic to install the engine bush and around $320 for the front and rear, not sure if i'm going to need bolts or something extra

    So all up its pretty pricey procedure
    2016 Golf R, APR Stage 1
    2010 Polo GTI 9n3, 4 Program APR Tune, PD160, White line front and rear sway bar

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    Check those part numbers in ebay. I got the rear anti caster bushes for about $100 delivered from a place on the Gold coast.

    Quote Originally Posted by flat6 View Post
    So its not too hard to do the front engine bush yourself? Might try finding a guide to it and having a shot at it

    Find SuperPro Parts for My Vehicle

    Got some quotes from Bursons
    Engine Bush - SPF2907-70K $80
    Front control arm bushes - SPF3311k - $81
    Rears Control arm Bushes - SPF3273k $158,
    regarding the caster alteration, they are quoted as "Anti Lift Kit; Fits OE housing # " The race version alters the caster I believe

    Was quoted $165 for the mechanic to install the engine bush and around $320 for the front and rear, not sure if i'm going to need bolts or something extra

    So all up its pretty pricey procedure

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    Quote Originally Posted by flat6 View Post
    So its not too hard to do the front engine bush yourself? Might try finding a guide to it and having a shot at it

    Find SuperPro Parts for My Vehicle

    Got some quotes from Bursons
    Engine Bush - SPF2907-70K $80
    Front control arm bushes - SPF3311k - $81
    Rears Control arm Bushes - SPF3273k $158,
    regarding the caster alteration, they are quoted as "Anti Lift Kit; Fits OE housing # " The race version alters the caster I believe

    Was quoted $165 for the mechanic to install the engine bush and around $320 for the front and rear, not sure if i'm going to need bolts or something extra

    So all up its pretty pricey procedure
    Try the boys at GSL (forum sponsor) for the parts. Think you'll get a better deal. And the both street and race antilift RCA bushes have the castor adjustment. They are just different Duro's. I highly recommend them

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    I did mine myself, but on saying that the existing one had perished (substantially).

    With my current suspension and new 70 shore I've noticed an increase in vibration, its died down but still noticeable around 1000 rpm (above idle but a little shake when picking up the revs from a stop). Some have lots, others not so much, YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flat6 View Post
    So its best to get the rears or replace both front and rear bushes?
    I don't think changing the front bushes makes anywhere near the difference that the rear consoles do since the fronts are solid rubber but the rears have huge voids in them.

    As for the poly dogbone insert, you should be able to do it yourself.
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