P0016 on 2014 118 Tsi Golf Cabriolet

[ttenroca]

Gday,

Getting a P0016 on the above car. See that there were faults with the tensioner on earlier models that should have been corrected on this one. Anyone else with a tsi this late model have the same issue?

Edit - engine number is CTH ####......

This one is supposed to have fixed the cam chain issues. Car is running fine. Quiet on startup and run. No drop in power etc. Only symptom is the light coming on randomly.

Thanks

[ttenroca]

Update - dont think its a sensor issue. These will not start or run with a bad crank sensor. Will run but not start with a bad cam sensor according to:

http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_359.pdf

Has anyone had this issue on a 2014 or later car?

[ttenroca]

Update - dont think its a sensor issue. These will not start or run with a bad crank sensor. Will run but not start with a bad cam sensor according to:

http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_359.pdf

Has anyone had this issue on a 2014 or later car?

Zero help from anyone here on this question. Thanks.

For future reference.

Had car in at VW getting the takata's swapped out.

Their diagnosis - stretched timing chain. Estimate to repair, $3800. What a crock of ****. Ill be doing it myself as Im a pretty competent home mechanic, but that is just BS. Crap engine, rip you off on repairs to fix their crap engine. Never buy a VW.

[Lucas_R]

Zero help from anyone here on this question. Thanks.

For future reference.

Had car in at VW getting the takata's swapped out.

Their diagnosis - stretched timing chain. Estimate to repair, $3800. What a crock of ****. Ill be doing it myself as Im a pretty competent home mechanic, but that is just BS. Crap engine, rip you off on repairs to fix their crap engine. Never buy a VW.

Regarding no replies - i think the reason is that many Mk6 people have now moved onto Mk7 or other cars, plus I think i can speak on behalf of everyone on this forum that everyone is sick of death of 118TSI issues. It has been years and years of endless 118TSI issues and everyone is sick to death of them.

VW/Audi/Skoda seem to not be able to make a decent timing chain, just about every model of their engines that run a timing chain have issues on a regular basis. Whichever manufacturer they use to make the chains needs a good kick in the butt. The Mk6 GTI was another engine which had timing chain issues and have caused a lot of grief over the years.

Seeing you are in Camden, i would suggest you get a 2nd opinion and/or a quote from Camden GTI Camden GTI - Automotive repair centre - Campbelltown, New South Wales, Australia - 188 photos | Facebook and also VW Mobile Servicing: https://vwmobileservicing.wixsite.com/home

If you decide to do it yourself, you might be able to source the parts through either of these places, otherwise buy a kit from the UK. These engines were not sold in America so the more well known US based parts websites (ECS Tuning / USP Motorsports etc) will be of no use to you. Just bear in mind that you will likely need some specialist tools to do the work, and depending on how much these tools cost and how easy they are to get, it may not be financially viable to do this job yourself.

[ttenroca]

Thanks for your reply. Just wanted to know if anyone with a cthd engine had had a timing chain issue. Sounds like there are no good vw timing chains.

When the dealer gave my wife the estimate, she asked why it was so high. They said one of the reasons was they use genuine parts. She said that obviously the genuine parts are crap. The service guy was lost for words.

Anyway I have the tools, already have a triple square set and ordered the cam lock, timing tools set etc. Should be able to do it for a 10th the cost of the stealership.

Also had the water pump go and fry the s/c clutch at 50k. Changed that out without issue. They are a pita to work on being so cramped but not beyond the skills of a proficient home mechanic if your prepared to invest the time, tools, and do the research. Worst job I ever did, clutch on a t30 xtrail. 3 days work. It's bloody timing Chain lasted to 300k though.

[ttenroca]

All done.

Took about 10-12 hours all up.

Tools needed: Triple square socket set, Timing tools (cheap kit off ebay for <$60 worked perfectly), Sprocket counterhold (Made one up out of some scrap steel), Lots of torx bits, ratcheting ring spanners, sockets etc. are all pretty much essential. I also have a hoist at home which made the job a lot easier.

The timing was OK on the intake cam, out slightly on the exhaust. I got it pretty early and comparing the chains there was minimal noticeable stretch in the old chain, maybe a mm or 2 when hung side by side

This video is a great guide:

YouTube

The crank stop worked perfectly - stopping at TDC perfectly. Dial gauge is just good to double check.

Car runs like brand new. All up, including the parts and special tools, fluids etc. <$500.

[ttenroca]

Quick Follow up - After a few days light came on again. Checked timing and all good. Had a to reset a few more times but after a day or two it was all fine and no light for months now. New chain just might have had to settle in for a bit.

[DT359]

Well done, that's a big job! Glad you're back on the road and hope the issue doesn't reappear for you.

Thanks for the summary of how you went.

Can you share the timing kit you got from eBay?
I have recently done the water pump on my CAVD and am planning on tackling timing chain in the near future.

[jets]

Another well done from me. If you have the skills & information, DIY is the only way to keep running costs under control.