Who would have thought that a lossless format like CD would be better than an icrud playing back a lossy format.Quote:
Originally Posted by MkVIGTI
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Who would have thought that a lossless format like CD would be better than an icrud playing back a lossy format.Quote:
Originally Posted by MkVIGTI
How do you know he wasn't playing low bitrate mp3 on the phone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick
CD's will always sound the best but lossless is very close and the mdi sounds fairly good. Also on the stock speakers/amp you can't tell a huge difference.
Lets hope VW bring out a new firmware for the MDI soon.
Lol... only an Apple user could say a comment like that seriously!Quote:
Originally Posted by G-rig
You do realise the big issue with that comment right?
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Originally Posted by coreying
They should sound the same minus any loss through the mdi cable etc.
I use flac at home on the pc with Foobar and that is just as good, so are wav files.
That's what I'm trying to say. There should be NO difference between a lossless file and the original source.
If there is, then the 'CD ripping' stage hasn't done it's job properly, or the playback chain is not up to scratch. Obviously Apple being Apple, and forcing users to only be able to hear their digital music via analogue output is the cause here :)
It's irrelevant as it's a lossy format.Quote:
Originally Posted by G-rig
But it's still not the same, being surprised that a lossless format sounds better than a lossy format is like being surprised that the sky is blue.Quote:
CD's will always sound the best but lossless is very close and the mdi sounds fairly good.
Especially when the CD which is lossless is being played goes from a digital source to the headunit as a digital signal and is only converted to analog at the speakers whereas the icrud plays a lossy digital file converts it to analog is transmitted to the MDI and passed through to the headunit (I'm not sure if the signal is converted back to digital and finally back to analog at the speaker outputs at this stage).
Clean out your ears!Quote:
Also on the stock speakers/amp you can't tell a huge difference.
We are all basically saying the same thing..Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick
My point is that most people may not hear the difference on the stock sound system between mp3 and lossless, however the better speakers/sound system the more you'll hear inaccuracies in low quality music rips/bitrates.
Except you're doing the faithful Apple Fanboi argument and skirting around the fact that a lossy format (whether it be on an Apple Icrud or not) is inferior to a lossless format, personally I don't care as high quality MP3's are good enough given all the limitations with audio in the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by G-rig
You would need ears full of wax to not hear the difference, even between high quality mp3's and a cd source you can hear the difference on the stock system.Quote:
My point is that most people may not hear the difference on the stock sound system between mp3 and lossless, however the better speakers/sound system the more you'll hear inaccuracies in low quality music rips/bitrates.
We are not talking about lossy formats, but apple lossless vs CD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick
I don't particularly like apple or itunes or apple lossless, but until there are head units out that support FLAC it will have to do, but interfaces with the car pretty well, except for the VW MDI bugs.
I can hear the difference but it sounded like you couldn't if you think the stock MK5 setup sounds good. Although i may have got a dud car last time.Quote:
You would need ears full of wax to not hear the difference, even between high quality mp3's and a cd source you can hear the difference on the stock system.
Actually we're talking about icrud sound quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by G-rig
Apple lossless may be close to CD quality but you forget that it's let down by the icrud that is playing it back. The sound quality will never be as good as a CD player in a head unit or a PC with a digital output to an amp or a CD player connected to an amp.
If by will have to do you mean have multiple extra connectors, unshielded cables and so forth why not just use high quality MP3's?Quote:
I don't particularly like apple or itunes or apple lossless, but until there are head units out that support FLAC it will have to do, but interfaces with the car pretty well, except for the VW MDI bugs.
The stock setup is fine if you set it up correctly, if you start hacking away at the car slapping in different components than you'll end up with different results. The car environment is dreadful for music playback and spending $3000+ to get slightly better sounding music is a pretty poor return IMO. Spend $500 on a pair of headphones and use those in the car and pit the other $2500 towards a system at home where that money will yield better results.Quote:
I can hear the difference but it sounded like you couldn't if you think the stock MK5 setup sounds good. Although i may have got a dud car last time.