Golf R -v- Golf GTI

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Originally Posted by team_v

Having said that i would never buy a new subaru because they look like the design team was on crack and studied picasso before drawing up designs for their newest models.

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........ whilst enjoying a holliday in Korea, BUT now even Kia's look better:facepalm:

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Originally Posted by dave_r

The WRX has good performance but not everyone likes the look of it or finds the interior a nice place to be. STI/Evo in the same category. Great performance but they're a horrible place to be day to day if you ask me. And not everyone likes the look at me attention of them.

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+1 Yep agree with all that. I looked for an all rounder that was a liveable daily driver. I want to be able to get out of a car after a long drive and not feel like an old crippled man. All depends what floats your boat and what you want to get out of a car. Agree also that if I wanted a straight line demon probably would've looked at buying something else. I'm sure what ever model we have chosen majority of us will be or are very happy.

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Originally Posted by bwen

It would be good if you posted the 60ft time and also trap speed of the quarter mile times also as they also play a major role in comparing cars. The Golf R has plenty more power in them as they were 'detuned' for the Australian climate 199kw to 188kw which is still less than the WRX (I think). The WRX is a pretty good all-rounder straight from the factory floor, 2.5L turbo AWD compared to the R's 2L capacity but it still doesn't explain why people buy Golf Rs in the first place

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All I was doing was commenting on the recent "Wheels" results and as there has been such a big thing made of the R's 0-100 times on this forum I thought it was appropriate to bring in another perspective. I can understand now the need many of you find to update with APR. And the fastest time to 400m will always be in front.

While we're on the subject of FWD hatches and track times.
Who builds the fastest stock hatchback?
Renault-Sport Megane RS265 with only 15kW more than a std Megane RS250 clocked 8.08min on the Nurburgring Track.
That's faster than a BMW 1 Series M Coupe, Audi RS3 and Audi TT-RS and Porsche Cayman S - apparently.
See link to EVO Mag and AUSmotive Blog:

Renault Megane 265 Trophy takes Nurburgring record | evo

AUSmotive.com

Cheers.
WJ

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Originally Posted by WhiteJames

While we're on the subject of FWD hatches and track times.
Who builds the fastest stock hatchback?
Renault-Sport Megane RS265 with only 15kW more than a std Megane RS250 clocked 8.08min on the Nurburgring Track.
That's faster than a BMW 1 Series M Coupe, Audi RS3 and Audi TT-RS and Porsche Cayman S - apparently.
See link to EVO Mag and AUSmotive Blog:

Renault Megane 265 Trophy takes Nurburgring record | evo

AUSmotive.com

Cheers.
WJ

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I saw the lap the other day, what a car!! I want! No aftermarket mods required.

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Originally Posted by adzy

I saw the lap the other day, what a car!! I want! No aftermarket mods required.

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It is an amazing feat.
Imagine what it would do if you gave it a bit more with some mods (if it even has the potential to be modded further.)

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Originally Posted by team_v

It is an amazing feat.
Imagine what it would do if you gave it a bit more with some mods (if it even has the potential to be modded further.)

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The chassis would be hard to improve on as reanultsport know their stuff! More powa would be a goer though, the RS250's give 300HP with a simple flash

An ECU tune, a set of KW Clubsport Coilovers, H&R sway bars front & rear and semi-slicks should show a noticeable improvement on the track. Having said that, I prefer the Renault-Sport OE suspension tune -v- Golf GTI OE suspension tune. The Megane RS250 seems to be about 15-20% stiffer everywhere over the Golf GTI. The KW V3 coilovers on the other hand seemed to be up to 35% stiffer than the stock Golf GTI and about 15-20% firmer than the Renault-Sport Megane RS250; in other words - the KW coilovers were a bit too firm for sports/comfort driving esp. over longer distances where you want a bit of comfort. Renault-Sport have done a sterling job in finding a balance between comfort & sport chassis tune.
Cheers
WJ

Have you driven one WJ?

Not only have I driven the Renault-Sport Megane RS250 - I posted my sentiments on this forum.
See post #1209 on page 121 of this thread for a GTI -v- RS250 showdown.
See link:

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112...45833-121.html

Cheers
WJ