Golf R Observations and Questions

[Disciple]

Question in relation to MK 6 Golf R launch control in manual cars.

I've driven one before that was stage 2 and at idle if you flatten the gas, it would build revs to I think 4k.

Our Golf R is stage 2+ and doesn't seem to do this at all.

Does anyone know the circumstances for the launch control on the manual models? What it's supposed to do? Did the stage 2+ tune remove mine?

Also, it's still on the stock clutch, what's a good upgrade for these and who would I take it to in SE QLD?

Cheers!

[AdamD]

Does anyone know the circumstances for the launch control on the manual models?

Launch control is a feature of the DSG transmission; manual Golf Rs do not have LC.

The other car you've driven may have had a feature added via ECU programming to limit revs to a predefined limit when stationary or under certain other conditions, but it's not standard behaviour.

[brad]

A lot of the manuals have a limiter on free-revving around 4000-5000rpm - it's not launch control though

[Disciple]

It's a form of launch control; to limit the revs. I know it doesn't build boost or anything, but I kinda wasn't asking about the semantics of a phrase, I'm more interested to know why some cars have it and some cars don't.

Any ideas??

[AdamD]

It's a form of launch control; to limit the revs. I know it doesn't build boost or anything, but I kinda wasn't asking about the semantics of a phrase, I'm more interested to know why some cars have it and some cars don't.

Any high-rev limiter has nothing to do with getting a better launch (or anything else attributed to "launch control"), and all about preventing drivers from side-stepping the clutch on the limiter and destroying the clutch, gearbox, or other driveline components. This is particularly important for high-powered cars with a lot of mechanical grip, where big-rev launches can be very brutal with little or no benefit to acceleration figures.

Some cars have it because their manufacturers have decided it's warranted on a particular model (could be due to hardware specifics/characteristics, the nature of buyers in the market, etc etc).

[Ryan_R]

Just a general question to throw out there - how are all the R's going? Any new niggles after a few years? Or have you already moved on like Adam?

(Basically, what's the 2nd hand market for these going to be like?)

[nat225]

Just a general question to throw out there - how are all the R's going? Any new niggles after a few years? Or have you already moved on like Adam?

(Basically, what's the 2nd hand market for these going to be like?)

i would say the engine is very solid (old design and has been thru many revisions) and tested tried abused worldwide and can do 10s on the 1/4m with stock internals and APR Stg3 kit reliably.

fuel consumption not the best if compared to newer engines (that run hotter and leaner).

[Disciple]

Any high-rev limiter has nothing to do with getting a better launch (or anything else attributed to "launch control"), and all about preventing drivers from side-stepping the clutch on the limiter and destroying the clutch, gearbox, or other driveline components. This is particularly important for high-powered cars with a lot of mechanical grip, where big-rev launches can be very brutal with little or no benefit to acceleration figures.

Some cars have it because their manufacturers have decided it's warranted on a particular model (could be due to hardware specifics/characteristics, the nature of buyers in the market, etc etc).

Still doesn't answer my question.

I asked on a different board and had my question answered.

Thanks.

[Bora Sport]

I just purchased a 2011 Golf R and the brakes are all pretty much due for replacement. I read through the Golf 6 thread and i think the last entry was about October last year. I intend to follow up on a couple of the links supplied there. Does anyone have any more recent suggestions as to which are the most cost effective rotors and pads and where to buy same?

[Lucas_R]

I just purchased a 2011 Golf R and the brakes are all pretty much due for replacement. I read through the Golf 6 thread and i think the last entry was about October last year. I intend to follow up on a couple of the links supplied there. Does anyone have any more recent suggestions as to which are the most cost effective rotors and pads and where to buy same?

Hit up forum sponsors GSL Rallysport / Brakes Direct and they can offer you several choices for pads and rotors. Bendix or DBA rotors are a popular replacement matched to a ceramic or low dust pad.