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As others have said the benefits outweight the slight hesitation of DSG.
It's worth driving both DSG and Manual to see what you prefer, not sure if the op did.
I've come from a 6MT R32 but hasn't taken too long to adjust but obviously not as good in the lag/take off department.
The new VWs are actually very intelligent. Your car is actually learning & remembering your driving style. Therefore after a whileQuote:
Originally Posted by cameronp
you will notice that the car has adjusted to your drive style. The learning fuction out of memory takes about 10 - 15 minutes. Don't lend your car to your grandma though as she'll probably destroy all your hard work i getting your car to a sporty setting ;)
I've been driving my Golf 6 TDI DSG for about 6 months now. Yesterday I jumped into a Golf 6 118 DSG courtesy car for the day. I noticed a couple of differences. The delay mentioned in this thread was very noticeable on the 118's 7 speed DSG compared with the TDI's 6 speed DSG. Secondly, when the hill hold feature releases automatically (1.5 seconds after you take your foot off the brake) the 118 rolls backwards. This was a big surprise the first time it happened as the TDI always has the clutch biting when the hill hold releases, and always creeps forward on even the steepest hills.
The 118 was fun for the day. Its a bit quieter, even though the engine appears much busier than in the TDI. I did miss that sensation of limitless torque the TDI gives as the turbocharger kicks in though.
Diesels have much more torque, much lower down. There's a hill outside my work which in my friends Focus diesel manual (2L ~100kw & 320NM) can go up it 'idling' in 2nd gear with him and myself in it. My Polo GTI Manual (Stage 1, 154kw & 328NM) can JUST get up it 'idling' in 1st gear if its only me in the car), a Golf 2.0 FSI manual (110kw & 220NM) instantly stalls...
This is why your TDI will creep forward but a 118TSI will instantly roll back.
Did several test drives 118TSI and 103TDI. Loved the surge of power, especially uphill and around corners.
Unfortunatly had several hiccups 103TDI DSG suddenly at very high rev pulling away from rest.
(Perhaps learn function thought it was a race track) (Also bigger delay compared to 7speed.)
Found 7speed 118TSI DSG could do the same, but to a MUCH lesser extent.
So loved the the 103TDI re power, but ordered 118TSI for refined manners.
Also, quietly drove into park spot, while 103TDI had to coast into park spot.
Before my golf was delivered 2 weeks ago, has the joy of the dealer offering me a loaner for 5 weeks, it was a 05 Audi 2.0 7sp DSG box, and all I can say is that compared with the 118, there is no notice lag!!! the box has come a fair was since 2005. Trying to get across the road at an intersection you had to take you foot off the brake, wait 2 secs, floor it, and it would still hesitate like a dog.......
Sure there is a little hesitation with the box in the 118 but as will all new things, its an acquired taste, and you can hear the clicks in the box when its figuring out selecting 1st or 2nd, but as coreying as mentioned before, its not an automatic hear box, its an automated manual big difference
Never-less, loving the supercharger and turbo whistle whist the sunroof open, addictive!
Cheers S...
Is this lag solved by putting the car into Neutral when stationary and only then engaging D when ready to accelerate?
Further to this, how do the DSG owners on the forums use Neutral & Drive? Do you engage Neutral whilst stationary in traffic/at traffic lights rather than holding the car on the foot brake with D engaged? Are there any known disadvantages to keeping the DSG in Drive whilst stationary for extended periods?
The DSG is a manual gearbox.... so when you're at the lights, it's already put itself into neutral. That's why there is that lag on take off.
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Originally Posted by G-rig
Unfortunately the manual was not an option (as this is mainly my wife's daily driver). I was lucky to even get the 118TSI approved by her!
Just to check .... would a stage 1 chip on the 118 reduce this delay at all e.g. can the remap adjust the gearbox timings?