6 Pot Brake upgrade???

**ozgti** · 17-08-2010, 10:17 AM

What do you guys think of this?

6 pot caliper/discs

Seem reasonably priced, but the only thing is ADR/warranty/reliability.

**Corey_R** · 17-08-2010, 10:42 AM

The link didn't work for me...

The 6 pot brake upgrades I've seen would require a 12mm spacer and only certain 18" wheels for clearance - such a the Porsche Cayenne kit from ECS Tuning. I'm not aware of what the ADR's are around wheel spacers.

I've always thought that the Golf GTI and R32 brakes were quite good, until seeing the most recent Motor 2010 Bang For Your Buck roundup where the GTI and R did a 100kph to stop in over 39m, compared to only 36m of the test winning Nissan 370Z. In fact, the Golf's were basically the worse of the test.

So due to that, I'm too interested in brake upgrade options for when I get my Golf R and do an APR Stage II upgrade. Having said that, I think maybe a 6 pot upgrade is overkill! Surely there is some middle ground

I know that there are Brembo and Alcon Brake upgrade kits for the MKV and MK6 Golf's available locally, but they start at ~$4500 and go to ~$5500 from what I've seen. I'm not really planning on entering club racing events, I just would like the car to stop in less distance! So I didn't really want to spend this type of money either

**Maverick** · 17-08-2010, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by ozgti

What do you guys think of this?

6 pot caliper/discs

Seem reasonably priced, but the only thing is ADR/warranty/reliability.

This link should work - KIDO 6 POT BRAKE CALIPER KIT VW GOLF MK6 GTI 13" ROTORS: eBay Motors (item 250668990061 end time Aug-18-10 01:16:35 PDT)

If not search for item 250668990061

Personally I wouldn't touch them, they're coming out of Taiwan, the specs are vague and I wouldn't be willing to trust my life with an unknown set of calipers, discs and pads (even if they do look good) especially when as coreying pointed out that Alcon and Brembo are $4500 to $5500 for the equivilant.

Details from the ebay listing

CALIPER SIZE MIDDLE 6 POT

ROTOR SIZE 330MM(13")

LIST PRICE USD2070

SALE PRICE USD1500

PART NO. MD6-AR1

MANUFACTURER KIDO

MODEL V.W. GOLF MK6 GTI

YEAR 09~UP

Item : 　　　
KIDO MIDDLE 6 PISTONS CALIPER 　
Rotor / Wheel size : 　
ØO330(two piece rotors)- / 17" wheel 　
　
　
Color :ANODIZING RED 　
Other color need to charge extra fees,please ask me at first (For Example:Black, Silver Painting,blue,green) 　
　　
Package contains : 　
Caliper x 2pcs +Adapter x2pcs +Two piece Rotor x2pcs + Brake Pads.
　　
Material ：　
Wrought aluminum alloy

YOU ARE BIDDING ON A COMPLETE FRONT BRAKE KIT FROM KIDO. EACH KIT CONTAINS A MATCHED SET OF CALIPERS AND ROTORS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR EACH APPLICATION. INSTALLING LARGER BRAKES WILL DECREASE YOUR STOPPING DISTANCE, PROLONG THE LIFE OF THE PADS AND ROTORS AND FILL UP THE SPACE BETWEEN THE CALIPER/ROTOR AND BARREL OF WHEEL

6 PISTON CALIPERSX2(PISTON SIZE IN Ø38,36,30)

● SLOTTED 330MM(13") TWO PIECE ROTORS X 2

●STAINLESS STEEL BRAKELINESX2(This parts need to added USD35)

● 1 SET OF RACING PERFORMANCE BRAKE PADS

● BRAKE ADAPTER X 2

**Golf Houso** · 17-08-2010, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by coreying

The link didn't work for me...

So due to that, I'm too interested in brake upgrade options for when I get my Golf R and do an APR Stage II upgrade. Having said that, I think maybe a 6 pot upgrade is overkill! Surely there is some middle ground

I know that there are Brembo and Alcon Brake upgrade kits for the MKV and MK6 Golf's available locally, but they start at ~$4500 and go to ~$5500 from what I've seen. I'm not really planning on entering club racing events, I just would like the car to stop in less distance! So I didn't really want to spend this type of money either

Having been in and driven a MKIV with 380mm 6 pot Brembo/APR brakes, I have to say it is astonishing. Hands down the best value for money mod on any big HP car!!!

**ozgti** · 17-08-2010, 11:06 AM

I have 2 sets of 4 pots, 1 Brembo and 1 AP racing, but the Brembo's are in the UK still. I'm going to need some serious clearance on the APS though. Does anyone have the specs on the standard disc dimensions?

Has anyone in Oz fitted 4 pots to a Mk 5/6?

**hooba** · 17-08-2010, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by coreying

I've always thought that the Golf GTI and R32 brakes were quite good, until seeing the most recent Motor 2010 Bang For Your Buck roundup where the GTI and R did a 100kph to stop in over 39m, compared to only 36m of the test winning Nissan 370Z. In fact, the Golf's were basically the worse of the test.

I wonder what role the tyres or pads played in that test....

Unless you are going to do regular track work in your GTI / R and are chasing incremental performance gains, there is nothing wrong with the OEM brakes IMHO. Anyone who rode in the R around Eastern Creek will attest to the fact that it stopped at turn 2 pretty well, lap after lap.

**dave_r** · 17-08-2010, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by hooba

there is nothing wrong with the OEM brakes IMHO.

Yeah I thought the OEM R stoppers were good enough. For spirited driving, I'd look into some decent pads before spending serious cash on rotor/caliper upgrades which would be slightly overkill unless doing regular track work.

Wouldn't touch that eBay **** though!

**hooba** · 17-08-2010, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by dave-

Wouldn't touch that eBay **** though!

Go on, at least it'll be "exciting"!

**fuzion** · 17-08-2010, 05:21 PM

4 pot setup is all you need to be honest.

unless you track the car, 6 is purely useless and waste of money.

a 4 pot porsche setup with merc discs should cost you no more then $2200-2500 locally inc pads, rotors, braided lines, carriers, calipers.

and oem r and s3 is 345mm with single pot which is more then ample for hard driving inc a bit of track use with right pads and rotors.

only upgrade if YOU actually need it.. to many people upgrading because 'looks good' or they think they're brakes dont stop well