Group Buy: Aftermarket Bixenon Headlights (WinPower Lamps) [Archive]

veew

09-07-2014, 03:03 AM

Disclaimer
I am organising this group buy to help upgrade as many headlights as possible. There is nothing in it for me other than getting headlights at a great price with as many enthusiasts as possible.

As I'm sure all of you already know, the standard halogen Mk7 Golf headlights are pretty average. A few of us on the forum have replaced the bulbs with varying levels of improvement. Until recently aftermarket xenons were OEM which were more expensive to buy than optioning the xenons at the time of ordering the car. Aftermarket replicas on the market but were of questionable quality. I’ve been researching other forums and have finally found a decent set of lights worth purchasing without breaking the bank.

Although I've done all this research, I'd like you to also look through my resources to confirm that you are happy to purchase these lights. I am not responsible for the product we are sent, my research only minimises the chance of receiving poorly built/performing headlights.
Please refer to the multiple links in this thread and post 88 in Headlights (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/headlights-87200-9.html)

Please ignore the greyed out text, updated pricing is below.
Pricing:
GB pricing would be $US385/set, they are usually $US545 a set.
P&H: You can choose from EMS $US195 (15-25 days) OR FedEx $US224 (3-5 days).

Therefore headlights will cost $US580 (shipped with EMS) or $US609 (shipped with FedEx)

Payment will be directly to WPlamps via Paypal once I've compiled the list of buyers.

Minimum Group Buy numbers:
Either 20 sets of V2 headlights
OR
10x V2 and 10x GTi

EOIs so far:
V2:
1. Veew (V2, 5000k)
2. Jazrod92 (V2, 5000k)
3. Point (V2, 5000k)
4. 01_Golf (V2, 5000k)
5. Tomcat225 (V2, 5000k)
6. Dux (V2, 5000k)

GTI:
1. Couchmotorist (GTi, 5000k)
2. Flipper (GTi)
3. Mui_michael (GTi, 5000k)
4. KWS (GTi, 5000k)
5. Flipper (GTi, 5000k)

Updated Pricing for GB numbers lower than 20 units:
$US399/set for V2 or GTi
P&H: You can choose from EMS $US195 (15-25 days) OR FedEx $US224 (3-5 days).

This would mean the headlights will cost $US594 ($AUD633) when shipped with EMS.
BUT there is also a Paypal fee, usually $US25 but Mark stated on payment we put $US600 (which means Paypal takes $US25, they get $US575).
Therefore the FINAL price of the headlights including P&H is $US600 ($AUD639).

Payment will be directly to WPlamps via Paypal once I've compiled the list of buyers.

Updated EOIs so far:
Please refer to post #50 on page 5 to see the updated EOIs. Couchmotorist has taken over the GB with thanks.

Group Buy Process
Once we have sufficient numbers, I will tabulate the orders in a form. We will Paypal Mark the contact at WP lamps who will provide you with your own tracking number. Standard shipping took 4 weeks for the Brazilian GB so I suspect ours will be 3-4 weeks for standard EMS shipping.

veew

09-07-2014, 03:04 AM

About WinPower lamps
WPlamps have been making headlights for a while now. You can go to their website (Contact Us -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website (http://www.wplamps.com/Abouts.aspx?aboutid=1)) and trawl through all the forums they have provided lights to in the past. The Brazilian forum VWGolfClub.com have seen this company’s work before with headlights for Jeta, Beetle and Tiguan. These headlights come with all the wires and connections and are plug and play.

VWGolfClub have completed 2 GBs for these headlights with a 3rd underway. If you are interested in checking out the first GB thread you’ll need to:
1) Register to www.vwgolfclub.com (http://www.vwgolfclub.com/)
2) Use Google Translate
3) Head to Forums >> aesthetic changes >> Lighthouse replica Mk7 Golf (Group Buy). Pages worth checking out are 1, 6, 8 and 9.

Replica versions
The versions available to be produced in RHD are:
V2: VW Golf 7 OEM LED headlight V2 -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- äº§å“å±•ç¤º -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website (http://www.wplamps.com/Showprot.aspx?id=386) (eBay: FOR 2014 VW Golf MK7 Headlight With Angel EYE AND BI Xenon Projector V2 | eBay (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/For-2014-VW-Golf-MK7-Headlight-with-Angel-Eye-and-Bi-xenon-Projector-V2-/161329028720?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AGolf&hash=item258ff59e70&_uhb=1))
GTi: VW golf MK7 GIT version headlight -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- äº§å“å±•ç¤º -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website (http://www.wplamps.com/Showprot.aspx?id=388)

V2 and GTi headlights look and should operate like OEM Highline/GTi headlights HOWEVER they DON'T have self-levelling, active cornering assist functions or headlight washers. The headlights can be adjusted up and down as you would usually do for the OEM halogen headlights (ie. Under the bonnet and from inside the car). The GTi version is the V2 with a red GTi stripe.

The version of V2 lights available for us in RHD are bi-xenon with supplementary H7 Halogen for highbeam, both DRL U's light up.

V2: WP Golf V2 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/08MxMcGOz9g)
GTi: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1UMVAMP_3eRRUpuOVBtaXhoWUU/edit

2014 VW Golf MK7 HID Conversion Kit:
Temperature: Choice of 4300K, 5000K, 6000K
Bulb Type: D2H
Ballast Type: include round ballast/slim ballast
Wattage: 35W
Turn light : Yellow
Low light: Bixenon projector HIDs
High light: halogen projector kit (H7)

Lelf light and Right lights include :
2 x Ballasts
2 x HID bulbs
2 x LED DRL
2 x Angel eye(White)
2 x HID bifocal projector lens
2 x halogen projector light (H7)
2 x black housing
All required harness (For Plug and Play installation)

Brazilian fitted V1s (Golf R replicas)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/hfAa9oh_zps1bc416d6-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/hfAa9oh_zps1bc416d6.jpg.html)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/WPV2GOlf7_zpsd41b7b90png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/WPV2GOlf7_zpsd41b7b90.png.html)

(http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/ScreenShot2014-07-08at93423pm_zpsaacca968.png.html)Screenshots from the V2 video:
V2 DRLs only
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2DRLsonly_zpsc939a6e3png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2DRLsonly_zpsc939a6e3.png.html)
V2 DRLs and xenon low beam
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2DRLsandlowbeamprojector_zpse733e847png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2DRLsandlowbeamprojector_zpse733e847.png.html)
V2 DRLs and xenon low beam + (?) parking indicator setting
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2DRLslowbeamprojectorampindicator_zpsa3-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2DRLslowbeamprojectorampindicator_zpsa3e55c3c.png .html)
V2 DRLs, xenon high beam, halogen high beam + (?) parking indicator setting
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2DRLsindicatorandparkinglight_zps549e8a-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2DRLsindicatorandparkinglight_zps549e8a84.png.htm l)
V2 xenon only
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2Projectoronly_zpsf5f7164bpng-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2Projectoronly_zpsf5f7164b.png.html)
V2 indicator only
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2indicatoronlhy_zps0c526385png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2indicatoronlhy_zps0c526385.png.html)

veew

09-07-2014, 03:05 AM

Installation
Apparently the installation of the headlights is pretty easy. Removal of the central grill and removal of the bolts that hold the side of the front bumper in place. The front bumper does not need to be completely removed from the car for the installation. The installation is almost exactly the same as Mk6 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCrmc_d68MI & Volkswagen Golf 6 Headlight Installation -- About News -- æ–°é—»åŠ¨æ€ -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website (http://www.wplamps.com/Shownew.aspx?id=67)) but without the complete detachment of the front bumper.

Solvalou's description outlining what he is referring to in the first video link below:
"The installation is very easy. If you watched my video Ill try to explain some stuff I said in the video.
Bumper and front grill uses Torx T25 screws. The headlight uses Torx T30 screws. There are also 2 M10 10mm screws that need to be removed inside the bumper so you can unsnap the side of the bumper.

First I show in the video 4 screws you need to remove from inside the wheel compartment. Then there are 2 more underneath the bumper. After that you need to unscrew 2 more screws on the front grill. After that you need to pull the front grill towards your direction to unsnap it from that other plastic plastic behind it. The main lock is located near that hole that I show in the video. When you unsnap it and the front grill is loose, you need to move it up to disconnect it from the bumper.

There are 4 screws on the headlight. I show them on the video. One I couldn't show because the front grill was blocking it and also there is a side one that the bumper was blocking. The one at the back of the headlight that is deeper inside you don't need to remove completely, just unscrew it a little bit and you will be able to slide the headlight out. Also remember that even after removing all the headlight screws you need to pull the bumper a little bit toward the front of the car because there are some hooks at the front of the headlight underneath the bumper holding it in place. After you pulled the bumper you need to move the headlight a little bit up to free up the hooks so you can slide it out. Remember also to remove the main headlight harness cable before you pull it out.

You just need to do everything in in reverse order to install the new headlight."

Solvalou's Youtube videos
1) Solvalou has kindly included English subtitles.
This video shows you what bolts are required to be removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tQWJhOj-cQ (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F v%3D-tQWJhOj-cQ)

2) Adjusting headlight aim. I can't really follow it so only really helpful if you speak Portugese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ps2bSOLr78 (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F v%3D1ps2bSOLr78)
AND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyqNTybnhjM (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F v%3DCyqNTybnhjM)

A few PDF documents which may help with the installation process:
https://app.sugarsync.com/wf/D1372919_104_717385947

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/1_zpsf381bacf-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/1_zpsf381bacf.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/1zcz9ex_zpsaed933d7-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/1zcz9ex_zpsaed933d7.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/IMG20140616WA0038_zps3a27c357-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG-20140616-WA0038_zps3a27c357.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/rkoite_zps87e1adf4-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/rkoite_zps87e1adf4.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/k2hc0y_zps394ff1d6-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/k2hc0y_zps394ff1d6.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/mx10y9_zps3c7ff8e1-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/mx10y9_zps3c7ff8e1.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/2q8aqoj_zps4ff32410-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/2q8aqoj_zps4ff32410.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/2n8yo41_zpsb6dae8e1-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/2n8yo41_zpsb6dae8e1.jpg.html)
2x M10 10mm screws that need to be removed inside the bumper so you can unsnap the side of the bumper
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/2lxcdxs-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/5clgsg_zpsb8e938f5-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/5clgsg_zpsb8e938f5.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/IMG20140616WA0015_zps8ec5d5a6-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG-20140616-WA0015_zps8ec5d5a6.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/IMG20140616WA0043_zps2a6de9e3-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG-20140616-WA0043_zps2a6de9e3.jpg.html)

DRL tweak via VCDS (in Portuguese but VCDS screens in English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Gvy8RG3ik

veew

09-07-2014, 03:08 AM

Fitment:
Photos demonstrating fit and finish (Brazillian fitted V1s):
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/IMG20140617WA0015_zps2665116c-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG-20140617-WA0015_zps2665116c.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/IMG20140617WA0026_zpsc305067c-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG-20140617-WA0026_zpsc305067c.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/IMG20140616WA0036_zps775736d1-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG-20140616-WA0036_zps775736d1.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/2zg6ctz_zps3654ac32-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/2zg6ctz_zps3654ac32.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/339u05j_zpsb7e7adb1-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/339u05j_zpsb7e7adb1.jpg.html)

Lower spec V2s which only have one DRL U that illuminates:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/ygenyzeb_zpsd7b9e862-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/ygenyzeb_zpsd7b9e862.jpg.html)

Performance
The following photos and videos give you an idea of what to expect from the V2 and GTi replicas.

V1, low beam, 5000k
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/de9uqyja_zps942957aa-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/de9uqyja_zps942957aa.jpg.html)

GolfMk7 LuanF's V1 videos:
External - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V67IEZo7q18 (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F v%3DV67IEZo7q18) (read description regarding DRL brightness)
Light performance low & high beam - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6H9qF72jsQ (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F v%3DC6H9qF72jsQ)

veew

09-07-2014, 03:09 AM

Insurance
Paypal insurance is really the only thing covering you so I would insist on checking the headlights out as soon as you receive them. There is a warranty period (below) but M4rko's experience a few years back, in post 346, it seems once the deal is done they're not interested.

Product Review - Chinese Replica MK6 Golf HID Headlamps for halogen cars - Page 35 (http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?6474-Product-Review-Chinese-Replica-MK6-Golf-HID-Headlamps-for-halogen-cars/page35)

I've been assured by Mark, WPlamps contact, the packaging has improved since then and they have not had any returns due to damage in transit since. Solvalou's description of recent packaging is reassuring.

Paypal insurance: https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/paypal-buyer-protection
Paypal covers the following things:
- If an order doesn’t arrive or match the seller’s description
- You received a completely different item.
- You purchased two items, but received one.
- The item was damaged en route to you.
- You bought the original, but received a counterfeit.

Refer to 7.1 and 7.2 for Paypal Buyer Protection details:
https://www.paypal.com/sg/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#7

7.2 Eligibility Requirements.

To be eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection you must meet all of the following requirements:

Pay for the full amount of the item with one payment from your Account. Items purchased with multiple payments or installments are not eligible.
Send the payment to the Seller in the following manners:

For eBay items:

through the eBay “Pay Now” button or the eBay invoice; or
through the “Send Money” tab of your Account by selecting “eBay Item” or “Pay for eBay Items” and entering the required information.

For items bought on other websites:

through the Send Money tab on the PayPal website, by clicking the “Purchase” tab, or by selecting the “Checkout with PayPal” button or otherwise selecting PayPal as part of a Seller’s checkout flow.

Open a Dispute within 45 Days of the date you sent the payment – then follow the online dispute resolution process described below under "Dispute Resolution"
Have an Account in good standing.

For items purchased on eBay look for either a PayPal or eBay buyer protection message in the eBay listing. If you see a message, and you meet the eligibility requirements, then your purchase is covered by PayPal Buyer Protection. The buyer protection message will vary based on the eBay website. The message must appear on the top part of the listing and not under the “Description” or “Shipping and Payments” tabs. If the listing does not include the buyer protection message, then it is not eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection.

Warranty
12 month warranty on the bulbs and ballasts.

Packaging
This is a picture from a thread on VWVortex for WP lamps B7 Passat headlight installation. I would expect the headlights to be delivered in similar packaging.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/ShippingBox-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/Firstlamp-1.jpg

Solvalou's description of the packaging when he received his headlights:
"It comes very nicely packaged. It has nice quality foam protecting it and each headlight comes in its own box. Both boxes come inside a bigger box. Examining it in detail I noticed that the build construction is really good. It looks like an OEM headlight from VW."

veew

09-07-2014, 03:10 AM

PAYPAL CLAIMS if required

A. How do I open a dispute on a transaction?
If you haven't received your item or the item you received doesn't match the original product description, we have a dispute process to help you and your seller resolve the issue as amicably as possible. Where possible, you should always try contacting your seller before disputing a payment through PayPal but do bear in mind that you have 45 days from date of payment to open a dispute.

Here's how to open a dispute:

Log in to your PayPal account.
Click Resolution Centre.
Click Report a problem.
Click Report a problem.
Select I have a problem with an item I purchased, and then click Continue.
Click Find Transaction ID.
Click the Transaction ID next to the transaction you want to dispute, and then click Continue.
Select the reason for your dispute, and then click Continue.
Enter additional information on the Provide Additional Information page, and then click Continue.

After you've opened a dispute, you have 20 days to communicate with the seller. Disputes automatically close after 20 days. If you can't resolve the problem, you can ask us to investigate by escalating your dispute to a claim within the 20 days. We won't investigate disputes filed after 45 days, but we will take note of your problem.

To learn more about your rights through PayPal Purchase Protection, click Legal Agreements on any PayPal page, then click User Agreement for PayPal Services.

B. Why was my dispute closed?
When you open a dispute in the Resolution Centre, you must follow some specific guidelines. We automatically close or defer cases that don't follow these guidelines.
If you’re not satisfied, we encourage you to work directly with your seller to resolve the problem. (You’ll find their contact information on the Transaction Details page.) Most sellers welcome the opportunity to make their buyers happy.
Here are the most common reasons a dispute is automatically closed:

The dispute was filed over 45
You have to open a dispute within 45 days of the transaction date. You opened your dispute more than 45 days after the transaction date, so it was automatically closed.

The dispute was not escalated within 20 days
If you can’t resolve the problem with the seller, you have 20 days from the date you opened the dispute to escalate it to a claim. Your dispute was automatically closed because it wasn’t escalated within 20 days.

You already closed the dispute
According to our records, you resolved the problem and closed the dispute in the Resolution Centre. We don’t re-open cases that are canceled or closed.

The dispute was for an intangible or virtual item
We can only investigate transactions that involve items that can be shipped. Your dispute was closed because your item is virtual or intangible.

You filed the dispute through eBay
Since you have already opened a claim with eBay, your PayPal claim has been closed. Please continue to work with eBay to resolve this issue.

To learn more about how we investigate transaction problems, click Legal Agreements at the bottom of any PayPal page, then click User Agreement for PayPal Services.

C. What’s the status of my claim?
You can check the current status of your claim at any time by visiting the Resolution Centre.

To view the status of your transaction dispute:

Log in to your PayPal account.
Click Resolution Centre at the top of the page.
Select Open Cases in the drop-down on the Resolution Centre page.
Click the Case ID number under the Case column to view the status of the transaction in question.

If the dispute is escalated to a claim, PayPal seeks to resolve the claim within 30 days of the date the claim is filed, though such time frame can be extended, if appropriate, to accommodate the investigation.
If additional information is required, we will email you with the specific information we need along with the steps to provide us with that information.

tomcat225

09-07-2014, 08:46 AM

AdamD

09-07-2014, 09:05 AM

V2 and GTi headlights look and should operate like OEM Highline headlights HOWEVER they DON'T have self-levelling or active cornering assist functions.

Just bear in mind that the lack of self-leveling and headlight washer features makes these headlights illegal in Australia, as they don't conform to Australian Design Rules (ADR 13). This may have implications for you in the event of an accident (both with respect to vehicle legality, and also insurance cover), and of course can cause visibility issues for oncoming drivers.

Headlights | Motoring | RACQ (http://www.racq.com.au/motoring/cars/car_advice/car_fact_sheets/headlights)
HID Headlights Legality (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2078477)

DoggieHowser

09-07-2014, 09:16 AM

Just bear in mind that the lack of self-leveling and headlight washer features makes these headlights illegal in Australia, as they don't conform to Australian Design Rules (ADR 13). This may have implications for you in the event of an accident (both with respect to vehicle legality, and also insurance cover), and of course can cause visibility issues for oncoming drivers.

Headlights | Motoring | RACQ (http://www.racq.com.au/motoring/cars/car_advice/car_fact_sheets/headlights)
HID Headlights Legality (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2078477)

I'm not sure what to make of these two statements. They seem to be contradictory

"HID headlight conversions are not permitted under Qld legislation. However, it is not clear if other Australian states view the issue in the same way. If you operate in another state you should check requirements in your area.

Note also that Queensland's Dept. Transport and Main Roads (DTMR) advises that there is currently no legislation concerning HID conversion of driving lights."

Not permitted in first para but no legislation concerning conversions.

Ps wasn't there a workaround involving lower power bulbs that don't exceed a particular threshold?

couchmotorist

09-07-2014, 11:58 AM

Just to clarify. I'm putting my hand up for the gti lights with 5000k bulbs.
Just out of interest, what options for bulbs are there?

veew

09-07-2014, 12:31 PM

Just to clarify. I'm putting my hand up for the gti lights with 5000k bulbs.
Just out of interest, what options for bulbs are there?

From the Brazilian forums, it was 4300k, 5000k and 6000k.

couchmotorist

09-07-2014, 12:39 PM

From the Brazilian forums, it was 4300k, 5000k and 6000k.
What's the general consensus on the quality of the light? I understand 4300 or 5000 is generally better for light output but what about colour? It seems to vary enormously depending in which colour chart you look at. I've 5000k even look slightly yellow when I'm pretty sure its meant to be pure white. My guess is the photos of the light output seem to be 5000k?

TJG

09-07-2014, 01:02 PM

I'm not sure what to make of these two statements. They seem to be contradictory

"HID headlight conversions are not permitted under Qld legislation. However, it is not clear if other Australian states view the issue in the same way. If you operate in another state you should check requirements in your area.

Note also that Queensland's Dept. Transport and Main Roads (DTMR) advises that there is currently no legislation concerning HID conversion of driving lights."

Not permitted in first para but no legislation concerning conversions.

Ps wasn't there a workaround involving lower power bulbs that don't exceed a particular threshold?

There is no legislation for specifically for HID conversion but all modifications are subject to legislation and generally must not compromise ADR's

This is from QLD Department of Transport and Main Roads, Minor Modifications, Vehicle Standards Instruction G19.1
http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Sa...ifications.pdf (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tmr.qld.gov.au%2F%7E%2F media%2FSafety%2FVehicle%2520standards%2520and%252 0modifications%2FVehicle%2520modifications%2FVSIG1 9minormodifications.pdf)

"Headlights
Retro-fitting High Intensity Gas-Discharge (HID) or Light Emitting Diode (LED) headlight assemblies to vehicles not
originally offered with the technology is generally not permissible as they do not comply with the ADRs because:
• no headlight self-levelling device is fitted
• no self-cleaning function is fitted
• the design of the headlamp reflector is compatible with the bulb (the light is not focused correctly)."

veew

09-07-2014, 01:26 PM

What's the general consensus on the quality of the light? I understand 4300 or 5000 is generally better for light output but what about colour? It seems to vary enormously depending in which colour chart you look at. I've 5000k even look slightly yellow when I'm pretty sure its meant to be pure white. My guess is the photos of the light output seem to be 5000k?

I'm pretty sure the bulb temp for the lights I posted up is 5000k. I had 4300k on my motorbike for 4 years and that looked like midday sun at night (some shots below). I'm sure 5000k would be white with slight yellow.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/th__MG_6216png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Bixenon%20Projector%20HID%20retrofit/_MG_6216.png.html)http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/th__MG_6217png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Bixenon%20Projector%20HID%20retrofit/_MG_6217.png.html)

This seems to demonstrate what I would expect:
http://hidpowerhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/4K5K6K8KHID_Verus_D4.jpg

I've updated the version of V2 headlights available for us. Check out the 2nd post and the relevant video, I will upload the relevant screen shots of this version.

mui_michael

09-07-2014, 02:28 PM

100% in for GTi: VW golf MK7 GTI version headlight with 5000k bulbs

veew

09-07-2014, 03:07 PM

Just a thought... could we reduced shipping costs by potentially bulking orders? one for each state

eg I work in the CBD in Melbourne so could have all the Melbourne lights sent as a group... ?
Then people could organize pickup?

Good job veew.... any installed pics of the V2 yet ?

Shipping cost unchanged if you did it that way, its related to the box size rather than where it is shipped.

There are no pics of V2s that I have come across, I think we may be the first.

point

09-07-2014, 04:55 PM

Count me in 100% for V2s with 5000k bulbs

01_GOLF

09-07-2014, 10:36 PM

I'm also in for the 5000k v2s

mui_michael

10-07-2014, 09:46 AM

Just to clarify, the GTI version that I have ordered. Is this for non GTI cars wanting the red line going through the headlights? And it is still a plug and play system for my Tsi?

veew

10-07-2014, 11:11 AM

The GTi version is just like the V2 except it has the red stripe through it. All systems are plug and play.

Post 28: Xenon Lights + LED DRL retrofit - Page 2 - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum (http://golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2223&page=2)

tomcat225

10-07-2014, 12:26 PM

Oh and ill get 5000k bulbs too.. :)

Dux

10-07-2014, 12:58 PM

I might be interested in this. What's their legality like in NSW? Is it easy to self-install?

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Kesh

10-07-2014, 02:28 PM

I would be on this already, but the fact that it's illegal and could screw me over in an accident scares me :(

They look incredible though, fantastic price as well!!

point

10-07-2014, 06:42 PM

I would be on this already, but the fact that it's illegal and could screw me over in an accident scares me :(

They look incredible though, fantastic price as well!!

Its one of those 0.00001% chance things, successfully proving that they were the cause of an accident would be stupidly hard. I see heaps of cars running around with aftermarket HIDs and on forums and have never heard of anything. I say they'd be fine, especially when they look almost identical to OEM HIDs, i doubt even police would notice.

Kesh

10-07-2014, 06:44 PM

Its one of those 0.00001% chance things, successfully proving that they were the cause of an accident would be stupidly hard. I see heaps of cars running around with aftermarket HIDs and on forums and have never heard of anything. I say they'd be fine, especially when they look almost identical to OEM HIDs, i doubt even police would notice.
That's a good point, I didn't consider they had to prove it. I may be tempted!

veew

10-07-2014, 07:38 PM

I've updated the video link for the V2 headlights in post 2. The download link that was there seems to be dead so I've uploaded the video downloaded from that link (post 2 also updated):

WP Golf V2 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/08MxMcGOz9g)

Also guys, I'm going to be checking this thread much less as I have exams looming. I may get someone to take over the tabulation of the order form if we reach numbers before my exams.

If you have any questions please check out the relevant sections on the first page and all the links before posting questions.

KWS

11-07-2014, 03:33 PM

Please count me in.....
GTi: VW golf MK7 GTI version headlight with 5000k bulbs

veew

11-07-2014, 05:40 PM

Please count me in.....
GTi: VW golf MK7 GTI version headlight with 5000k bulbs

Done.

Btw guys, Solvalou has kindly informed me that he has included subtitles to his first video (he's done about 50% so far). Refer to Post 3 of this thread.

Also at the end of post 3 has a youtube link to VCDS tweaks for DRLs, audio is in Portuguese but VCDS screens in English.

Flipper

11-07-2014, 10:13 PM

5000k GTI version for me thanks

point

13-07-2014, 06:36 PM

Just to clarify, is the high beam on the V2s using just a regular H7 halogen bulb as well as the light produced from the xenon low beam?

veew

13-07-2014, 07:37 PM

The V2/GTi lights are bi-xenon. The H7 halogen is supplementary to the high beam xenons (an internal shutter is activated to produce a high beam light pattern).

If you refer to this video at 12 and 13 seconds, you'll see the cutoff on the side of the house and slightly to the right of the pot plant rise when the high beams are activated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6H9qF72jsQ

The screenshots show the height of the high beam cutoff as the red horizontal line:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/LuanFhighbeam_zps2ba993a3png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/LuanFhighbeam_zps2ba993a3.png.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/LuanFlowbeam_zps66fe46b4png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/LuanFlowbeam_zps66fe46b4.png.html)

Dux

16-07-2014, 11:27 PM

Add me. V2, 5000k

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veew

18-07-2014, 11:42 PM

Hey guys, Mark contacted me today with regards to numbers as he was keen to get the GB going. After informing him we had 6 to 7 V2 orders and 5 GTi orders, he stated he was happy to go ahead however there would be a price rise.

He stated V2s would be $US429/set (therefore $US624/$AU665 with EMS shipping) and the GTi $US449/set (therefore $US644/$AU687 with EMS shipping).

I know the original prices were already pushing it for myself and 2 others, these new prices are too much for me. Let me know what your decisions are and I'll update Mark.

Jazrod

18-07-2014, 11:57 PM

mui_michael

19-07-2014, 12:16 AM

Just ask him what would he like more? The cash of the original price we discussed all 11-12 of us or him stuck with all the stock in his wearhouse??? Regardless of the outcome I will get these headlights.

01_GOLF

19-07-2014, 12:43 AM

The original price was $620AUD including shipping, that's already over my limit so I have to draw the line somewhere. It's a shame because they're really nice looking lights, maybe we can just leave it for a while longer to try and get more people?

couchmotorist

19-07-2014, 12:56 AM

I can understand why it costs more with smaller numbers but the price rise seems pretty steep. I'd prefer a rise that's a bit more reasonable. They do seem like good units but now they're not not much less than the cost for a single set when I contacted WP lamps a month ago! Ultimately I'm still keen if we can work it out

veew

19-07-2014, 12:20 PM

Hi guys,
I've heard back from Mark, whose boss has agreed to readjust the price to $US399/set (for both the V2 and GTi) for an order of less than 20 units.

This would mean the headlights will cost $US594 ($AUD633) when shipped with EMS.
BUT there is also a Paypal fee, usually $US25 but Mark stated on payment we put $US600 (which means Paypal takes $US25, they get $US575).
therefore the FINAL price of the headlights including P&H is $US600 ($AUD639).

I am happy that this price is not too much more than the original price and therefore am happy to place an order.

Please indicate if you are happy to place an order (Version headlight, temperature of HID globe) with this updated price. I will let Mark know of the final numbers for the group buy by next Monday. We still need at least 10 sets of headlights.

couchmotorist

19-07-2014, 12:29 PM

I'm happy with this. To clarify I'm up for GTI lights with 5000k globes

mui_michael

19-07-2014, 12:45 PM

Happy with $633 for my GTI with 5000k globes order.

veew

19-07-2014, 12:49 PM

Hey guys, I just updated post #38 with the Paypal fees. Sorry guys, but let me know if this is still ok.

point

19-07-2014, 01:13 PM

Count me in for 5000k V2s at this price.

Jazrod

19-07-2014, 03:44 PM

Yeah I am happy with that! V2 with 5000k globes.

Group buy is made up as a separate thread, yes?

veew

19-07-2014, 03:47 PM

This is the GB thread, post#1 has the formal EOIs.

veew

19-07-2014, 04:05 PM

Also guys, if someone is able to take over the GB from here that would be great. This is taking up way too much time that I need to put towards my exams.

Essentially I'll forward you all my emails between Mark and myself if you needed to refer to any of the background discussions that has been distilled on this thread. You just need to copy the formal EOIs on post #1 and put it on one of the subsequent posts on this thread. Mark wants to get about 10 orders by next Monday but just contact him with what orders we end up with by Monday and he'll let you know if he is happy to proceed with the current deal if we have less than 10 units.
The reason why Mark wants this deal done by Monday is because next month is their business month which may delay our production/shipments.

Once the order has been confirmed, the organiser will ask those ordering to PM your details to them.
That person will fill in the order form (provided in the emails) which includes:
Name
Headlight version
HID temperature colour
Address
Contact number

This form will be sent to Mark. Everyone then sends the money to a specific Paypal Address, once all payment has been made then Mark will send the headlights and provide us with individual tracking numbers. We should receive the headlights in less than a month (it took the Brazilians almost 4 weeks, we're much closer to China than they are).

The person taking over from me will have my eternal gratitude. This GB has taken waaaay too much of my time and I really really need as much time as I can get for this exam.

Cheers guys.

veew

19-07-2014, 04:33 PM

Ok Couchmotorist (also a Radelaidian) has kindly offered to take over the GB. He will post soon the current EOIs and update that accordingly, he will also be contacting Mark with regards to the group buy numbers on Monday and will confirm if the deal is going ahead. Once it has been confirmed, he'll ask you to PM your details to him to tabulate the order form for Mark.

Cheers guys.

01_GOLF

19-07-2014, 07:51 PM

I'm in for $639
Thanks heaps veew for organising all this and thanks couchmotorist for taking over

danielk

19-07-2014, 08:46 PM

i am in for V2 with 5000k, thanks

point

19-07-2014, 09:54 PM

I'm in for $639
Thanks heaps veew for organising all this and thanks couchmotorist for taking over

Agreed, massive thanks to both Veew and Couchmotorist.

On another note, are the indicators on the V2s the same halogen bulbs as the stock units? If so I'll replace them with LEDs, are the high beans the same H7s as stock too?

couchmotorist

19-07-2014, 11:51 PM

Hi everyone,
Thanks veew for all your hard work in setting up the group buy. As he mentioned earlier, I’ll push on with the GB from here given his other commitments.
Because I can’t edit veew’s posts I thought I’d reiterate where we are up to with numbers and details for the lights themselves.

Updated Pricing for GB numbers lower than 20 units:
$US399/set for V2 or GTI
P&H: You can choose from EMS $US195 (15-25 days) OR FedEx $US224 (3-5 days). Note: Fedex is quicker delivery (quoted 15-25 days vs 3-5 days) plus more comprehensive insurance

This would mean the headlights will cost $US619 ($AUD659) when shipped with EMS.
BUT there is also a Paypal fee, usually $US25 but Mark stated on payment we put $US619 (which means Paypal takes $US25, they get $US575).
Therefore the FINAL price of the headlights including P&H is $US619 ($AUD6539) VIA EMS, or $US648 ($AUD690) VIA FedEx.

2014 VW Golf MK7 HID Conversion Kit:
Temperature: Choice of 4300K, 5000K, 6000K
Bulb Type: D2H
Ballast Type: include round ballast/slim ballast
Wattage: 35W
Turn light : Yellow (globe specs TBA)
Low light: Bixenon projector HIDs
High light: halogen projector kit (H7, same as OEM halogen setup)

Scope of delivery:
2 x Ballasts
2 x HID bulbs
2 x LED DRL
2 x Angel eye(White, similar to golf R set up)
2 x HID bifocal projector lens
2 x halogen projector light (H7)
2 x black housing
All required harness (For Plug and Play installation)

Final EOIs at time of ordering:
V2:
1. Veew (V2, 5000k, FedEx)
2. Jazrod (V2, 5000k, FedEx)
3. Point (V2, 5000k, EMS)
4. 01_Golf (V2, 5000k, FedEx)
5. danielk (V2, 5000k, FedEx)
6. Tomatoes (V2, 5000k, FedEx)
7. Dux (V2, 5000k, FedEx)

GTI:
1. Couchmotorist (GTI, 5000k, FedEx)
2. Mui_michael (GTI, 5000k, FedEx)
3. Flipper (GTI, 5000k, EMS)
4. KWS (GTI, 5000k, EMS)
5. DuesLucem (GTI, 6000k, FedEx)

Process of purchase:
As veew mentioned previously, I have to update Mark with numbers this coming Monday (21/7/14) in order to start the build before the end of the month. Next month is a busy one for production and our shipments might be delayed otherwise.

I will attempt to contact those who have previously expressed interested.

After Mark has agreed with the price for the numbers we have, I will need people to PM me with their details:
- Name
- Address
- Contact number
- Preferred postage method (FedEx vs EMS)
(I will attempt to clarify the actual price if people prefer FedEx)

Once Mark has these we will need to forward WP Lamps the money via PayPal before production starts (keeping in mind they would need to be in by around 25th or 26th July). He will then send each of us individual tracking numbers for postage.

NOTE: the paypal account we need to pay to is hua_chen2007@hotmail.com

Anyone else that is interested please feel free to let me know ASAP

couchmotorist

20-07-2014, 12:09 AM

Also, please refer to post #50 for further updates on the summary page.
This is because I unfortunately can't edit veew's original post.

mui_michael

20-07-2014, 12:38 AM

Thanks for the updates couchmotorist. I think I'm gonna go the FedEx route, let me know the price and I'll let you know mate. Once again thanks for the time and effort you guys have put in.

veew

20-07-2014, 01:54 AM

Sorry guys! I think I misunderstood Mark in a previous email (as referred to in post #38 ). It just popped into my head, I think I made the headlights cheaper than what it is. This is the email I’m referring to:

温浩_Mark <2925704017@qq.com (2925704017@qq.com)> Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 11:50 AM
To: Andrew

Dear Andrew,

OK, thanks for what you have done!
And we think we can close it in next Monday, OK?
By the way, you all do by paypal, right? if do the paypal, need add the paypal fee of each payment for USD25.00. This is for paypal company, not for us. like if total value with shipment is USD600.00, Then we only received USD575.00, The paypal will take USD25.00.
If you don't want to pay this, you could do by western union, it will not take our money. hope you could understand.
Best Regards,

Mark

I think the actual price including Paypal fees is $US399 + $US195 + $US25 = $US619 ($AUD659) shipped via EMS.

I'm really sorry for the misunderstanding guys. I've asked Couchmotorist to chase it up with Mark but I don't think we'll be hearing from Mark until Monday. Just update what your thoughts are with the price and Couchmotorist will update the EOIs accordingly.

After all this faffing about I just don't want to think about it anymore. Lock me in for V2, 5000k with EMS shipping Couchmotorist.

Tomatoes

20-07-2014, 01:03 PM

Put me down for the V2 version, 5000k and EMS shipping please!

Also thanks couchmotorist and veew for organising all this.

Jazrod

20-07-2014, 01:09 PM

If it's $659 it's not too bad ...
Atleast with PayPal there's some sort of insurance.

If it's not too much extra with FedEx would prefer as it's quicker.

Also, I'm under the impression they're yet to make the RHD lights. How long will this take?

couchmotorist

20-07-2014, 01:52 PM

Thanks Jazrod and Tomatoes, I've updated post #50 with EOIs and shipping methods.

Please note that for the moment the prices have been adjusted to the following:
FINAL price of the headlights including P&H is $US619 ($AUD6539) VIA EMS, or $US648 ($AUD690) VIA FedEx.
Please note: Fedex is quicker delivery (quoted 15-25 days vs 3-5 days) plus more comprehensive insurance

I'm told the units themselves only take 5-6 days to manufacture. This of course won't happen until we have all sent payments.

AdamD

20-07-2014, 02:15 PM

Also, please refer to post #50 for further updates on the summary page.
This is because I unfortunately can't edit veew's original post.

PM me if/when you want me to update the original posts with the relevant information.

Jazrod

20-07-2014, 02:53 PM

Yep awesome. Well count me in for FedEx, then. :)

Flipper

20-07-2014, 08:01 PM

I'm still in for the GTI 5000k version via EMS they should arrive just after my first service that way.
Thanks for all your hard work so far veew and you too couchmotorist for taking it over.
I'm after them because the halogens as we know aren't very good but after having a Golf7 R follow me today damm they look so much more aggressive they really lift the look of the front end.

danielk

20-07-2014, 09:06 PM

I am in with V2 5000k and post with Fedex please.
THanks

Tomatoes

20-07-2014, 09:41 PM

Actually, considering the manufacturing time, I might change to fedex.

01_GOLF

20-07-2014, 11:38 PM

Screw it I'm in for v2 with FedEx as well, I'm just too excited to wait

mui_michael

20-07-2014, 11:48 PM

So which one of us doing the install video for the mk7 golf communities? Hahaha

mui_michael

20-07-2014, 11:51 PM

Solvalou's description doesn't actually show you how but rather a tips and guide......

couchmotorist

20-07-2014, 11:52 PM

couchmotorist

20-07-2014, 11:53 PM

Solvalou's description doesn't actually show you how but rather a tips and guide......

I'll try and press Mark for a set of instructions if they're available. I've got a feeling Solvalou won't want to pull apart his newly installed lights

mui_michael

20-07-2014, 11:53 PM

Fed-Ex for me

mui_michael

20-07-2014, 11:54 PM

I'll try and press Mark for a set of instructions if they're available. I've got a feeling Solvalou won't want to pull apart his newly installed lights
Thanks mate.

couchmotorist

21-07-2014, 12:01 AM

Ok everyone we've hit the magic number 10!
I've updated post #50 with everyone so far. To summarise we have 7 people for V2s and 3 for GTIs.
I'll be sending the order form to Mark tomorrow at 2pm ACST (Adelaide) so any further EOIs should be by then. For those who haven't specified the method of shipping, please let me know ASAP.
It's getting pretty close now!

Ok now that we have the numbers, could each of you please PM with your details:
- Full name
- Address for delivery
- Contact number
I can then fill out the order form and send it through to Mark

veew

21-07-2014, 01:21 PM

Thanks again Couchmotorist for taking over and thanks guys for ordering!

I will also jump on the FedEx bandwagon but won't be able to install till sometime after my exams, THEREFORE I'm relying on one of you eager beavers to do a detailed DIY haha.

couchmotorist

21-07-2014, 02:14 PM

I've got delivery details for everyone except
- Point (V2)
- Dux (V2)
- Flipper (GTI)
Please refer to post #50 for a summary of each person's order. No issue if you change your mind about shipping preference, just apy the appropriate amount and let me know so I can update Mark.
I will send through the order form now but let me know of any amendments and I can forward them.

Payment instructions:
In order to pay you need to create a PayPal account. Then when you make a payment, the email is hua_chen2007@hotmail.com
No other details are needed, as this is linked to WPlamps account and the rest is processed by PayPal.

EMS: $US619
FedEx: $US648
PLEASE NOTE: THEY WILL ONLY ACCEPT USD - The currency can be selected when you make your payment

Please PM me when you pay and the amount just so we have a record in case there are any issues. As much as these guys have been reliable in the past, I don't want us to get caught out.

couchmotorist

21-07-2014, 03:09 PM

Please note:
I've just got an email back from Mark, we need to pay in USD ONLY, THEY DO NOT ACCEPT AUD. Apologies but I've only just been informed of this. Paypal has a way to pay with USD when you select your payment, just choose the appropriate currency.

danielk

21-07-2014, 03:52 PM

Hi I put that $648 USD on paypal for V2 fedex order, and it shown (equals $716.20 AUD).
That means $716.20 will be paid from my account?
Thanks,

couchmotorist

21-07-2014, 03:53 PM

Yeah unfortunately the exchange rate has changed since our last calculations. Not much we can do about it unfortunately.

mui_michael

21-07-2014, 03:54 PM

Usually at night (US day time) the exchange rates are better

01_GOLF

21-07-2014, 08:10 PM

Paid...

mui_michael

21-07-2014, 08:42 PM

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/menumega-1.jpg

couchmotorist

21-07-2014, 09:54 PM

Ok just 3 people left to pay (well done everyone... that was quick!). One person has contacted me and should have things arranged within the next day or two, I'm yet to hear back from the other two for a while.....
I'll keep chasing people but there's only so much harassment I can do!
More info soon.

couchmotorist

22-07-2014, 06:30 PM

Update:
We have another addition! 12 in total now which gives us some breathing room in case someone doesn't make the deadline.
So far I have three promises for payment, but I haven't heard from Dux in a while! Will continue to chase but if I don't get a reply, Mark (WPLamps) may end up starting a run without them...
For the other three, if you could send through and let me know asap that would be great.

chibailah

22-07-2014, 08:15 PM

couchmotorist

22-07-2014, 08:22 PM

PM me all your details. See post #50 for all the info. We would need confirmation and payment asap.

chibailah

22-07-2014, 08:45 PM

sent to you via pm couch

couchmotorist

22-07-2014, 08:54 PM

sent to you via pm couch
Thanks mate I'll pop you on the list. I dont need your PayPal account though, you need to pay to the email listed in the original post yourself. Can you please confirm when you do and I'll mark it as noted?

Jazrod

22-07-2014, 09:03 PM

So close, guys!!!

couchmotorist

23-07-2014, 08:07 PM

I've spoken to mark who has started production of the units (7 x V2 and 5 x GTI) and they should he ready to ship by this Fri/Sat or Mon (probably Monday because of the weekend).

So far with the payments:
All of the GTIs have paid, and 5 of the 7 V2s have paid. One person made an error in their PayPal request and should have it corrected in the next day or two after the refund has been put through. The other person I haven't heard from for days.... Time to name and shame!

Dux, we need to hear back from you ASAP. I've spoken to Mark and it seems he won't send ANY of the units until we've ALL paid.

There is one other person who was keen and has missed the deadline. I have all their details and they know how to pay. Given the looming deadline, Dux has until tomorrow night midnight (Thurs 24/7/14), otherwise this new person gets the spot (if they're happy to accept it).

I'm sure that there will be plenty of further group buys for these units once we get them in our hands and can comment on the quality and
how-to tutorials.

Basically we're darn close and I hope we can fix it all up for delivery by early next week!

sucnip

24-07-2014, 04:43 PM

mui_michael

24-07-2014, 04:52 PM

If only you in Brisbane QLD David......

Guest001

24-07-2014, 05:45 PM

SeanThomas

24-07-2014, 11:34 PM

Im in sydney and would love to watch an install if anyone of u are from here and wouldnt mind me watching...i also want to hop on the next group buy

couchmotorist

25-07-2014, 08:00 AM

The last person hasn’t gotten back to me so, as promised, I’ve messaged our late addition who is happy to go ahead with the order.
That means that by the end of today (25/7) or Monday (28/7) we should have confirmation that all the payments have been received and delivery will hopefully kick off not long afterwards!

I’ve contacted Mark who will confirm all the payments and delivery dates ASAP. After that we should all be sent tracking numbers, but I will ask to have a collated version on the order form in case people are having trouble.

Almost there people!

mui_michael

25-07-2014, 08:02 AM

Thanks Couchmotorist, top effort mate!!!

danielk

25-07-2014, 10:15 AM

Hi all. I am keen to see how this all turns out, likely in on the next round. I'm intererested in participating in an install to see how difficult it it and the tools required. I'm in Sydney and have a VCDS cable if anyone needs help reprogramming and wants to let me watch the install?

Cheers,
David

Hi David,
I will install it with my friend who have experience to change headlight for MK7. I am happy you to come to see and sharing the information.
Cheers,

Daniel K

couchmotorist

25-07-2014, 07:15 PM

Just got this from the manufacturer:

"And i am sorry to tell you that, The production depart. told me that the RHD model is no enough material to make (because this is the end of the month, we Purchase material every month 1st of the month), so i may delay to next month. so sorry about that.
*If you all worry about the payment, you all could frozen the payment of the paypal, then after we told you we have it, then you could release it, OK?"

I've told them we're not impressed, not least because they specifically rushed us to meet their "end of the month" production. I also mentioned they now have all of our money and we're dependent on them.

His reply:
"Sorry for the delay, we upset too. we push you to pay just want to do the earlier, but these days to many order, so not enough material. if pay one week early, then we could ship to you. Once we have the exactly shipment date by next week, we will let you know, thanks."

I'm trying to clarify what "may delay to next month" means in terms of a delivery date but I'll keep you all posted. I'd highly recommend we DON'T freeze the funds just yet, because if it's a matter of days then waiting for everyone to "unfreeze" might just cause further delays. These guys have been reliable in the past from other forums I've read so I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt at this stage.

One other thing Veew mentioned earlier is the issue of insurance. Those with PayPal should be fine but those with EMS only have 30 days from the time of order which may prove difficult if they don't ship for another week or two. If this is the case then EMS orders might need to start a PayPal dispute to cover themselves. Other option would be to upgrade to FedEx (more money I know...)

Sorry again guys this one came out of left field. Will keep everyone posted when I hear more early next week

veew

26-07-2014, 03:49 AM

Thought I would pop on here briefly, thanks Couchmotorist for keeping on top of everything!

Regarding insurance coverage in the post above, I'm pretty sure the EMS coverage is for the delivery itself and not 30 days from Paypal payment. I've outlined Paypal's coverage in Post #5, you can refer to the eligibility requirements in sections 7.1 & 7.2.

https://www.paypal.com/sg/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#7

Section 7.5 refers to dispute resolution which MUST be opened within 45 days of payment.

This may be more relevant for Point_01, chibailah, Flipper and KWS as you've opted to ship with EMS.
Due to the issues in production and shipping, the items could still be en route sometime close to the cut off for a Paypal dispute. If this is the case, you may need to open up a Paypal dispute. If there are any issues with the items not arriving at all or if there are issues with the items themselves (damage during delivery or faulty items) then the dispute is already open for you.
I don't think upgrading to FedEx is necessary atm but is an option if you want the breathing room. I'm sure you can upgrade anytime up until a few days before they complete production.

Over the next 1-2 weeks we will definitely get a better idea on production completion and shipping dates. As always, Couchmotorist will keep you in the loop.

Tomatoes

28-07-2014, 09:47 PM

Any news on this?

couchmotorist

28-07-2014, 09:58 PM

Emailed Mark tonight. Hopefully will reply tomorrow but we may not have much in the way of news until next month (ie August) when the new materials start rolling in. Trust me when I say I'm chasing this, my email thread with him is well over 20 messages!
I'll keep people posted as best I can.

mui_michael

28-07-2014, 10:02 PM

When I saw you post the materials won't be coming in until August my heart dropped to the floors but than I saw its only 3days away till we are in August. hahaha

Jazrod

29-07-2014, 02:26 PM

I am seriously sooooo keen now. I will be documenting the whole installation and posting it, too. So if once they arrive and I beat anyone to installing there should be a sufficient guide :)

couchmotorist

29-07-2014, 02:33 PM

Got an update from Mark regarding the shipping time:

"Yes, we will have material by next Monday, and then we will try to ship out to you at the end of next week, that is our plan". Ie materials by Mon 4/8/14, ready to ship (hopefully) Fri 8/8/14.

Payment is sorted for everyone so there shouldn't be any delays. I will keep updating as I pin things down further.

Almost there people.

Jamestc

01-08-2014, 12:24 PM

Hi All,

I am new to the forum and would be keen to join this group unless it's already closed and no more items can be included. Would you kindly let me know the status.

Thanks

James

01_GOLF

01-08-2014, 04:08 PM

Pretty sure the order has already been put in James, I'm sure someone will organise another group buy after we get ours though

couchmotorist

01-08-2014, 04:16 PM

Hi All,

I am new to the forum and would be keen to join this group unless it's already closed and no more items can be included. Would you kindly let me know the status.

Thanks

James
Hey Jamestc,
I've been one of the people helping to organize the group buy. Unfortunately our order has gone through but I'd suggest you get hold of mark from Winpower (email mark@wplamps.com) who I dealt with. In the last couple of days I've had a couple of enquiries forwarded to me so I assume there's enough people keen to get a second round going. When people start putting up reviews and installation guides I'm sure interest would pick up even further.
Have a chat to mark and ask him how to best go about it. I can forward you order sheets and instructions if required but the majority of the details are on the earlier posts of this thread, so it should be a matter of copying it across to a new thread

Jazrod

04-08-2014, 02:27 PM

Any news yet? Jittering with anticipation.

couchmotorist

04-08-2014, 02:28 PM

I've sent Mark an email this morning asking him to confirm manufacturing and delivery dates. The last I heard was to start producing today (Mon) and deliverd by Fri. Hopefully I hear back today and I'll let everyone know

couchmotorist

05-08-2014, 05:39 PM

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but production has been pushed back until next week. No clarification on exact days despite our insistence.

This is becoming a bit of a joke.

Veew has kindly touched base again (still busy with other commitments at this stage) and we've sent a rather terse reply back:

"I'm sure I speak for both [both of us] but we rushed the Group Buy to beat this busy period. It should have been your responsibility to ensure there was enough material to actually proceed with production before the end of last month.

I don't think freezing Paypal payments is a satisfactory option but once my exams are completed next week, I will be thoroughly investigating what our options are. As [couchmotorist] mentioned earlier, we rushed this GB for you and therefore we would expect our orders to be treated as a priority...

...To be honest Mark, I'm starting to worry about this transaction. I would have thought this GB would be straight forward considering you've organised a number of group buys in the past.

I'm sure you can see that if this GB does not proceed in a satisfactory manner, many people who have been following my GB thread will see the final outcome, this will affect their confidence in placing orders with you in future.

I hope you will be able to work something out as I'm starting to feel that this may be a big Paypal scam. As I mentioned earlier in one of my emails, I've done all the research to give people confidence to order headlights from you. I'm sure the next 7-10 days will be a crucial time for you to demonstrate if we still have confidence in this transaction."

I think we've got the point across.
We have applied the pressure so I'd be happy to hear feedback. That way I can show Mark how displeased we are and push for some actual commitments.

Sorry, but once again I will keep everyone posted.

mui_michael

05-08-2014, 05:50 PM

Jazrod

05-08-2014, 05:54 PM

Yeah the organisation on WPs part is ridiculous. First we're told they're ready but the pending payment is holding back, then parts and now this. I was expecting these next week at the latest.

Please keep us posted on his response! 😕😨

And the quality better not be compromised as a result of this!

couchmotorist

05-08-2014, 06:02 PM

Tell Mark both Becautoparts.com and 32Deg.com have these lights for sale now at almost the same price, if Mark DOES NOT give us a promised time frame on these headlights in 24hrs and have them done in 5days I personally will get PayPal to refund my payment as this is becoming a joke. I will also be posting this on any forums I can find. This is my ONE AND ONLY WARNING to Mark@Winpowerlamps!!!

Feel free to let him know. Email to both of these addresses, as his replies seem to come from either one:
mark@wplamps.com, 2925704017@qq.com

Also feel free to provide a link to this forum seeing everyone's displeasure.

Just for people's reference, the reason we ended up going through winpower was because they were the only ones who could make units with RHD reflectors. The rest are LHD (unfortunate as there are numerous options out there).

couchmotorist

05-08-2014, 09:38 PM

We've had a reply:

"I have just talked our boss about our situation and discuss for one hours, we are very disappointed that you think our honesty business as a "scam*", but you could check for any forum in the world, we have very good reputation in the world.

We understand you are just want to received the goods without any delay, but we also you can understand us, we are professional factory, we arrange the production with our company's plan (not me to arrange it). our company will see who is more urgent, then we will make for them. some of our customers already delay for one month.

And i think this week is our crucial time too, that's why we want you to choose DHL, it will faster 2-4days then FedEx, we have delay too long, don't want to delay one more day by the shipment. even one day earlier to reach you, still better for both of us, because *Waiting is the most painful!
*
*Even this is our busy season, but our boss promised me, next week we can surely send to you all. next week, your GB order will be a priority of our company!

Hope you could talk to the GB can trusted us and be patience for one more week, thanks."

They had mentioned earlier about using DHL instead of FedEx (for those who ordered shipping with them) and it seemed the cost wouldn't change. We are just clarifying this as we speak, as any extra costs would likely delay things further whilst we wait for people to decide on whether they would want to pay extra. My feeling is a delay for people's payments would likely outweigh any speed gained through faster shipping. We would also need to check if shipping insurance is as competitive.

If it costs the same and similar insurance, EVERYONE who ordered with FedEx could be changed to DHL; if it costs more, then I would leave things as they are.

Jazrod

05-08-2014, 10:17 PM

So they'll SEND them NEXT week. Which means ETA is likely the following week ... not too bad. If DHL is quicker and no extra, may as well.

fopple

07-08-2014, 01:21 PM

Thanks for keeping everyone in the loop Couchmotorist. I missed out on this GB but keenly awaiting the next one if WPLamps get their act together

Jazrod

11-08-2014, 03:09 PM

Another dreaded Monday and another week left hanging in the balance ... I am to assume there's been no contact from Mark yet?

couchmotorist

11-08-2014, 06:23 PM

Just sent an email to Mark. I will update everyone when I get a response (should be tomorrow).

Almost there...

couchmotorist

11-08-2014, 06:30 PM

Lo and behold:

"We have arranged the productions already, this week will surely can ship, but will at Friday or Saturday in this week, thanks.

Best Regards
Mark"

I'll keep people posted.

Jazrod

11-08-2014, 06:43 PM

Lo and behold:

"We have arranged the productions already, this week will surely can ship, but will at Friday or Saturday in this week, thanks.

Best Regards
Mark"

I'll keep people posted.

Alright, cool. So hopefully an ETA of sometime next week?

veew

11-08-2014, 10:52 PM

Exam done for now! Man I'm looking forward to seeing the headlights sometime next week!

point

11-08-2014, 11:22 PM

sucnip

12-08-2014, 12:02 PM

Ps: anyone in/around Sydney keen on a group install?

I'd like to help. I'll bring a VCDS cable. ;-)

veew

12-08-2014, 06:59 PM

Keen to get a hold of these!

I've noticed on the Winpower website that the V2s and GTI reps have a halogen cornering light?! Would these work on a comfortline? or on any of our Golfs?
VW Golf 7 OEM LED headlight V2 -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- äº§å“å±•ç¤º -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website (http://www.wplamps.com/Showprot.aspx?id=386)

Ps: anyone in/around Sydney keen on a group install?

Hey Point, sorry I didn't realise you PM'd me about the headlight bulbs.

H7 high beam should be able to be replaced with other H7s. Indicator bulbs I'm not sure but it should be easy to take it out of the housing, take a picture and show it to a Repco sales rep.

The halogen cornering lights I would assume requires VCDS for comfortline as you wouldn't have fog lights for cornering lights. I would assume the highlines don't need coding but we'll find out in due time.

point

12-08-2014, 07:44 PM

Hey Point, sorry I didn't realise you PM'd me about the headlight bulbs.

H7 high beam should be able to be replaced with other H7s. Indicator bulbs I'm not sure but it should be easy to take it out of the housing, take a picture and show it to a Repco sales rep.

The halogen cornering lights I would assume requires VCDS for comfortline as you wouldn't have fog lights for cornering lights. I would assume the highlines don't need coding but we'll find out in due time.

all good - I've already ordered a set of H7 Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited high beam bulbs, I've schooled myself on bulbs and headlight tech lately so shouldn't be too hard to suss out what indicators the Winpowers use and replace them with LEDs.

im even keener now that I know the Winpower headlights have a turning feature in even keener as I miss the static turning feature of my last car.

Edit: i feel like the turning lights on the Winpowers might be wired to the indicators so they'll activate with the indicator?

veew

13-08-2014, 06:36 PM

Installation stuff from Becautoparts (Post 38: Review of Ed's MK7 Headlight replicas - Page 2 - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum (http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4889&page=2)).

Links below for installation PDF:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6m5ejpt0zjthi3t/AABTRc981NjpgXKTje8OKBVia

Someone ordered, fitted V2 GTi headlights from Winpower and posted up the results (Post 49: Xenon Lights + LED DRL retrofit - Page 3 - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum (http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2223&page=3)), looks sweet!

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/attachmentphpattachmentid2210stc1d140784-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/attachmentphpattachmentid2211stc1d140784-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/attachmentphpattachmentid2212stc1d140784-1.jpg

Point, unfortunately the cornering light won't work out of the box. The person who bought the headlights had this to say: "The guy that installed them for me said there was no wiring going to them at all, but they could be wired in. Just would take some time and know how."

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/attachmentphpattachmentid2214stc1d140793-1.jpg

Jazrod

14-08-2014, 10:17 AM

pyromaniaca

14-08-2014, 10:56 AM

Hey mate, just an EOI for those lights - how much are you asking for them (+delivery to Victoria)? PM me please :biggrin:

Jazrod

14-08-2014, 07:50 PM

Anybody interested in possibly buying my lights in the GB? Tomorrow I might be getting a GTI that is already fitted with them. If I don't go ahead with it I will be keeping my WinPower lights for my Highline. Just want EOI at the moment (will be good if you missed out on this GB)

Alright, guys. Taking delivery of my new GTI tomorrow :)

Who wants to buy my WinPower lights? V2 with 5000k xenons. $710AUD pickup in Sydney or extra for posted!

veew

16-08-2014, 02:16 PM

Hi guys,

Unfortunately Couchmotorist and I have been informed that the priority of our headlights enforced on them resulted in quality control issues.

Mark: I just came back from our production department and having a meeting, they blamed me a lot, because i push the workers to do make the goods, they could not make them carefully, so made a lot of trouble. we have made 100sets headlight, most of them has problem, some of them has dust inside, some of them wring not goods. the big problem is the projector len has scratch. see attachment.
So after the meeting, they decided all 100set headlight back to the production line and redo again. our company policy is that, if not pass the QC, could not sell out.
i was guilty with that, i should not push them too much. I made big trouble to the production line and waste a lot of time. :(
So the order will still delay. we hope we could ship out by next Monday. SORRY!

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/WPlampsScratchedheadlight_zpsd01cb6da-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/WPlampsScratchedheadlight_zpsd01cb6da.jpg.html)

I think my reply is very clear.

Hi Mark,

I must say I continue to be disappointed with how this transaction is progressing.
Please remember that the main reason we are in this position is because you did not check with the production team late last month that they had enough material to produce the RHD headlights.
If you had checked with them, you would have informed us that there was no need to rush the group buy. We would have happily waited until sufficient material was available before placing an order. So far we met your requests by obtaining at least 10 orders by the end of last month.

Unfortunately we paid you exactly 2 weeks ago (actually it was 3 weeks) expecting to have received the headlights by early next week atthe latest. At this rate, we really are not sure when we will receive the headlights. Your reassurances have done little to actually reassure us.
What I don't understand is how the projector lens scratch was not noticed before it was fitted (it is pretty obvious)?It is strange that the defect is only seen once the headlight has been fully assembled.
We do appreciate that you do quality checks and will not ship out headlights unless they are absolutely perfect, we do expect our headlights to be 100% perfect just like those received by the Brazilian buyers.

With these constant delays, it puts us in a difficult situation with the Paypal coverage period which covers us until early September. This coverage issue affects those who ordered with EMS as they would be likely to receive their headlights well past early September even if the headlights are shipped early next week (which I have my doubts).

As I mentioned before, if there is any chance the headlights do not come by early September, then the GB members are well within their consumer rights to open up a Paypal dispute (to ensure they have consumer protection with Paypal). This is clearly outlined in section 7.5: https://www.paypal.com/sg/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#7

I would suggest that your company upgrades their shipping to DHL as an act of good will, otherwise you are highly likely to have a few Paypal disputes open until the headlights have been received and inspected to be in good order. I will be contacting Paypal and providing them with our email communications so they have a full understanding of our situation. I will inform you of their advice and options.

Once I hear from you and Paypal, I will inform the rest of the group buy members of the progress thus far. In the meantime, I would suggest that you and the production team continues to produce the headlights as carefully and efficiently as you can. It is better to measure twice or three times and only cut once.
Couchmotorist, I and all the group buy members both want this group buy to be successful, we hope that you and your company will facilitate this.

Kind regards,

I'm in the process of contacting Paypal with our options but their website has it outlined very well. I've posted up the Paypal Dispute process in post #6: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/group-buy-aftermarket-bixenon-headlights-winpower-lamps-98267-post1069640.html#post1069640. You can refer to the finer details of Paypal Buyer protection in Post #5.

Regardless of the ongoing delays, I still think that these delays will be forgotten once we receive the headlights in good working order. There continue to be many happy owners who post up photos of their WPlamp headlights, I have yet to see a bad WPlamps' Mk7 headlight posted online.

I will be relying on Paypal Buyer protection to ensure I either receive the headlights (in satisfactory condition) or I will be getting my money back. After waiting this long, I'm not going to push for the headlights to be sent out ASAP as I just want them to make them to the high standard the Brazilians received. I will continue to push for those who ordered via EMS to have their shipping upgraded for free to DHL.

I would like all group buy participants to work out the exact date 45 days after they made their Paypal payment. Clearly mark this in your calendar to remind yourselves to open up a Paypal dispute prior to this date, UNLESS your headlights have been received and checked to be in good working order.
Considering I paid first on the 20th of July, I will be ensuring I open up a Paypal dispute on the 41st day (August 30th) and will post on the forum to remind others to do the same. If you do not open up a Paypal dispute within 45 days, you will not be protected and therefore may lose your money.

I understand many of you are absolutely f*cking pissed at how this group buy has progressed, don't worry I am as well. Rather than contact and abuse Mark further of his incompetence, it would be best to rely on Paypal to cover our transaction. This thread will be a very informative source for many potential future WPlamp customers, how Mark and his company deals with our GB will determine their future successes.

If any of the GB participants are particularly interested in receiving email transcripts between Couchmotorist, myself and Mark, please PM me your email address and I will send you what I have. All the important details are highlighted to allow you to follow the important details and dates more easily. These PDF'd email transcripts will be sent to Paypal in the meantime so they can clearly understand that Mark has clearly been at fault for the issues we're experiencing.

veew

16-08-2014, 02:18 PM

Alright, guys. Taking delivery of my new GTI tomorrow :)

Who wants to buy my WinPower lights? V2 with 5000k xenons. $710AUD pickup in Sydney or extra for posted!

Jazrod, if someone is keen to buy your headlights from them, I'm sure we can change the delivery address so they do not need to pay additional shipping. I'm sure this change in address can be made before the headlights have been produced and boxed up.

01_GOLF

16-08-2014, 02:50 PM

That's disappointing, but as you said I'd prefer to wait an extra week or two and receive the lights in good nick. I kinda feel sorry for Mark as he's being hit on both sides now. I'll open my dispute the same day as you do veew, at the rate we're going these lights are going to be great Christmas presents to ourselves

mui_michael

16-08-2014, 02:58 PM

I will ask PayPal for my refund on 17/08/14 0:01 as they have promised to send the headlights either yesterday or today plus a few more times before...

veew

16-08-2014, 03:42 PM

Oh and guys, if you are looking at pulling out and looking at other potential companies, do you mind looking into if they produce for RHD?

So far I haven't had a reply from 32degrees about whether they do or don't but so far there are no buyers who have bought from them and documented their experience. I know other companies who advertise on Alibaba don't do RHD lights. I'm not sure of Becautoparts but they mainly supply the North American market so it is unlikely to do low volume stuff for RHD but I haven't asked them specifically. Maybe you could chase this up Michael?

I'm going to hang in on WPlamps until I have my headlights or Paypal resolution (ie. refund). For the others who, rightfully, choose to open a Paypal dispute earlier, it would be good to know who else we can order from if everything falls through. But as Couchmotorist mentioned earlier, and from my original research, WPlamps were the only company who were happy to do a small production run specifically for RHD headlights.

...at the rate we're going these lights are going to be great Christmas presents to ourselves

Mate, lets hope we're pleasantly surprised soon.

Jazrod

16-08-2014, 04:57 PM

Yeah that's a good idea. I've had two blokes enquire but neither have the funds at this time ... if I pull out do I get my money back?

If anyone is still interested before they're shipped it's $710, as I paid all of the shipping already.

Proof of GTI purchase lol
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_20140815_181025_zpsuqi1afec-1.jpg (http://s1330.photobucket.com/user/Jarrod4292/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140815_181025_zpsuqi1afec.jpg.html)

veew

16-08-2014, 06:34 PM

You can't pull out via Paypal unless you didn't receive the item or the item was not as described. If you have someone willing to take your spot, we'll just change the delivery address but any claims will still need to go through your Paypal account unfortunately. Contact Mark to find out what your options are but don't act on it unless you run it by me. The Paypal protection criteria is quite specific and I wouldn't want anyone being caught short due to misinformation from WPlamps.

point

16-08-2014, 06:58 PM

I'd rather wait than receive sub standard headlights - it's not as if the headlights we currently have don't work. A free upgrade in shipping would be great though haha! I'll open up a dispute on the same day as you Veew but from all I've researched - the WP lights seem to be the most tried and tested non-OEM xenons.

out of interest, anyone know how hard and expensive an OEM Xenon retrofit is?

mui_michael

16-08-2014, 07:27 PM

$2600 for the pair 5G1941753A & 5G1941754A is the part numbers, this is the VW factory part that you can just go in to buy but they(dealership) WILL NOT de-code it for you as VW Germany is really anal about it apparently.

veew

16-08-2014, 11:44 PM

The installation of full OEM with washers and self-levelling is probably not worth it, will easily run you past 3k in parts and will take a fair amount of time (and money) to install. There are a few Mk6 installation guides which detail this, I would expect it to be very similar for Mk7 Golfs.

This is what you'd be looking at:
Bi-Xenon Headlight LED DTRL - VW Golf 7-39902 (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5q/bi-xenon-headlight-led-dtrl-vw-golf-7)
Adapter Bi-Xenon headlights VW Golf 7-39892_M (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5q/adapter-bi-xenon-headlights-vw-golf-7)
Control unit highline - VW Golf 7-39907_M (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/oem-parts-special-item/control-unit-highline-vw-golf-7)
Coding interface Xenon Headlights Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon-40084_M (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5q/coding-interface-xenon-headlights-golf-7-bi-xenon)
Auto-Leveling Headlights complete set - Retrofit - VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon-39934_M (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5q/auto-leveling-headlights-complete-set-retrofit-vw-golf-7-bi-xenon1)

veew

18-08-2014, 03:12 PM

Headlights apparently ready to ship today. I assume you'll keep your order today Michael Mui? Anyone keen to buy Jazrod's headlights? If so pay him ASAP so we can change the shipping address. Otherwise if he gets it there will be the associated P&H costs.

veew

18-08-2014, 03:47 PM

I think we'll just go ahead so the deliveries can occur today. I've emphasized to mark that the headlights need to be perfect and we would rather wait a few more days to be sure.

veew

18-08-2014, 04:23 PM

Ok, just confirmed headlights had not gone through to QC. I've emphasized we are willing to wait a few more days to ensure the headlights are perfect. It seems shipping may not be upgraded for those on EMS, dw I will continue to push for this but ultimately we have Paypal to cover us in the event the headlights are not received by late August.

Tomatoes

18-08-2014, 04:34 PM

Thanks for keeping us updated veew. Has mark given a definitive shipping date?

veew

18-08-2014, 04:45 PM

He said QC would delay by a day so potentially tomorrow afternoon. He'll update me "before noon" tomorrow. I re-emphasized that we want to ensure perfect headlights are delivered therefore a few more days with QC is acceptable.

veew

19-08-2014, 03:14 PM

Headlights passed QC. Shipping should occur later today, we should get tracking numbers over the next few days!

Unfortunately those who optioned with EMS delivery were not upgraded, check your PM (if not done already) and I'll contact you soon.

veew

19-08-2014, 07:36 PM

One of the brazilian guys just posted up a video of V2 headlight performance whilst driving down mostly well lit side streets. At 1:57, 3:07, 4:07 and 4:58 of the video, he flashes his high beams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf7Ii3_psys

This is the 2nd lot of pictures I've found of installed V2 headlights:

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/857x643q90/905/sBE6Ox.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/497x373q90/906/uYQeay.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/497x373q90/743/7MQya8.jpg

Tomatoes

19-08-2014, 09:57 PM

Those look pretty good! Looking forward to getting these!!

point

20-08-2014, 10:17 AM

Damn they look nice, super keen to get mine!

Anyone else notice that the chrome strip in the headlights doesnt line up with the chrome stip in the grill (it's approx an inch higher) - i'm going to try and track down an grill to suit an OEM model with xenons - possible GB?

veew

20-08-2014, 03:03 PM

It's because it's the "R" headlights. I initially thought it was a replica design issue from the factory but now realise it would probably match the R grille perfectly. The brazilians are ordering alternate grills from WPlamps but I think it's not worth the bother. Shipping would make it too expensive for what it's worth.

Solvalou had this to say (Page 13: Entrar - forum.VWGolfClub.com (http://www.vwgolfclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=43756&page=13))

I have put the V1 with exclusive grille was. Is aligned but it is not cool because the chrome headlight is not correct. The replica was not perfect ... It's hard to explain but I'll try.Imagine being a chrome line that starts on the outside of the lighthouse and goes to the center going against the grid. In the original OEM she begins almost flat (low slope) and will be spinning on its axis becoming more inclined to get on well inclined grid. The chrome grill perfect also follows the same slope.

Already in V1 the chrome line starts the same line of original OEM headlight. The whole problem is that the replica will not rotating shaft and getting steeper when it arrives in the grid. Ai is very strange because the slope of the chrome grille is different from the slope of the headlight chrome. keeps it aligned, which is just weird. I wish someone who has the V2 could knock a front photo for me to see if they got it. If yes, I will order the V2 and sell my V1.

Looks like the alignment is perfect. Only bad is that the chrome has different slant making the grid seem louder than the lighthouse.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/2jbv91y-1.jpg

I took a photo and zoom in marked the tops of chrome with lines. The bottom part of the chromed not put the line because they are aligned just right. The problem is the top. A red line is the top of the chrome grill. The green line is the top of the chrome headlight.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/11m8do4-1.jpg

Now I snapped this photo of a original exclusive. Look how the lines are well aligned.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/4qjvyu-1.jpg

As per Becautoparts on Review of Ed's MK7 Headlight replicas - Page 3 - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum (http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4889&page=3)
The Golf R front grille has a thicker chrome piece which aligns with the headlights. On a regular Golf grille, the stripe is much thinner so it looks like it does not line up.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/Golf7RFront_zps7b4c62bc-1.jpg (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/edinvan/media/Golf7RFront_zps7b4c62bc.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/GolfGTFront_zps655e787b-1.jpg (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/edinvan/media/GolfGTFront_zps655e787b.jpg.html)

veew

20-08-2014, 07:41 PM

Good news, tracking numbers were just emailed to us. Check your forum inbox, make sure it isn't full.

Tomatoes

20-08-2014, 07:50 PM

Good news, tracking numbers were just emailed to us. Check your forum inbox, make sure it isn't full.

Hmm...just checked, no new messages in my inbox yet?

edit: thanks! just got it.

veew

20-08-2014, 08:01 PM

Patience young grasshopper.

Ok you can check now! lol

Jazrod

20-08-2014, 08:14 PM

I've got nothing, either. They look great! Shame I won't be putting them on my car.

couchmotorist

21-08-2014, 12:36 PM

Thanks Veew for taking charge of things again!
Further update on tracking numbers for DHL deliveries from Mark:

"Yes, when it leave Hongkong, then will have new tracking number, then you will check in DHL web. yesterday we gave you the tracking is just for Chinese version. now we provide below new tracking number for english version for you all, because they are ready to fly from Hongkong now."

I will PM everyone with DHL their new tracking numbers. I Just checked mine and it does work (cleared to leave Hong Kong).
Look out for the message in the next hour or so.

veew

21-08-2014, 06:14 PM

Holy ****, my headlights are already in Sydney! You guys in NSW may get yours before the weekend! I'm expecting mine Sat/Sun morning.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/bysurene-1.jpg

01_GOLF

21-08-2014, 07:20 PM

I think I'm doing something wrong... The website says the tracking number needs to be 13 digits but mine is only 10

mui_michael

21-08-2014, 07:42 PM

I think I'm doing something wrong... The website says the tracking number needs to be 13 digits but mine is only 10
Have you try this site instead? DHL | æŒ‰å‘ä»¶äººå‚è€ƒä¿¡æ¯è·Ÿè¸ª | ç®€ä½“ä¸*æ–‡ (http://www.cn.dhl.com/zh/express/tracking/shippers_reference.html)

Type your number on the top right hand corner should come up with the package log.

mui_michael

21-08-2014, 07:43 PM

Mine is in Brisbane custom atm, if I'm lucky the lights could be my weekend project hahahaha

01_GOLF

21-08-2014, 10:20 PM

Have you try this site instead? DHL | æŒ‰å‘ä»¶äººå‚è€ƒä¿¡æ¯è·Ÿè¸ª | ç®€ä½“ä¸*æ–‡ (http://www.cn.dhl.com/zh/express/tracking/shippers_reference.html)

Type your number on the top right hand corner should come up with the package log.

Aaaaaah wrong site, thanks heaps man. I am now receiving sms messages for when it goes out for delivery! Get excited!

Jazrod

21-08-2014, 11:45 PM

Mine are in Sydney, too! Haha. Probably will arrive tomorrow!
Shame I don't have a car to put them on -_- lol.

Tomatoes

22-08-2014, 08:44 AM

Looks like the dhl people should be getting ours today!! Mine's "with delivery courier"...so keen!

Edit: just got mine. won't be fully installing them until tomorrow, but I'll post some pics up of my external test.

DeusLucem

22-08-2014, 11:15 AM

Based in Sydney. Just got mine delivered. Won't be able to test them until Sunday at the earliest. But will try to put up some pics of unboxing tonight.

Tomatoes

22-08-2014, 12:39 PM

Alright so I've just taken a few pics of the lights sitting on top of the stock ones. I haven't removed them yet. First two pics are the led DRLs only (left and right) and the last two pics are the xenon projector main beams on. Are the leds meant to be turned off when the main beams are on? I'm not sure...

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EDIT: I emailed Mark about it. Apparently you need to do VCDS coding as below:
Using the VCDS 12.12.0 program:

1 - Go to the module [09] CENT. ELETRONICS
2- Go to "SECURITY ACESS"
3- Digit the code 31347
4- After the code is acepted, go to ADAPTATION
5- Select Channel (5) Leuchte4TFLLB4 - Lichtfunktion B 4
6- Change status to "Abblendlicht Link"

1 - Go to the module [09] CENT. ELETRONICS
2- Go to "SECURITY ACESS"
3- Digit the code 31347
4- After the code is acepted, go to ADAPTATION
5- Select Channel (5) Leuchte5TFLRB32 - Lichtfunktion B 5
6- Change status to "Abblendlicht Rechts"*

Out of curiosity, does anyone in Brisbane have a VCDS cable?

veew

22-08-2014, 01:01 PM

Mate looks awesome! So excited to get mine!

VCDS will be required to enable the DRLs to remain on (at varying levels of brightness) while the low beam headlights are on.

DRL tweak via VCDS (in Portuguese but VCDS screens in English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Gvy8RG3ik (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F v%3DQ5Gvy8RG3ik)

DeusLucem

22-08-2014, 02:18 PM

Is the VCDS re-programming required for all models? I noticed my GTI has what appears to be non-LED DRLs so I'm thinking that the swap should be like for like.

ICEWOLF

22-08-2014, 03:27 PM

Out of curiosity, does anyone in Brisbane have a VCDS cable?
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Yes mate. Happy to help, Shoot us a PM.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01_GOLF

22-08-2014, 04:04 PM

Is the VCDS re-programming required for all
models? I noticed my GTI has what appears to be non-LED DRLs so I'm thinking that the swap should be like for like.
I'm pretty sure the VCDS is only necessary if you want the DRLs to stay on when you turn the headlights on

Tomatoes

22-08-2014, 04:12 PM

Yes mate. Happy to help, Shoot us a PM.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks for offering! But someone else beat you to it. :)

veew

22-08-2014, 05:21 PM

Turns out my headlights are still stuck in customs, won't get mine until Monday I reckon. Anyway that screenshot I put up was in fact Danielk's headlights, Mark somehow put his tracking number under my name as well. I was a bit confused when it was delivered in Sydney and not Adelaide.

Anyway I probably won't get time to fit it until next weekend. Looking forward to seeing you guys post up your headlights!

mui_michael

22-08-2014, 05:31 PM

One of my clip snapped... http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/ef1d38167636136dc14b9ec754730509-1.jpghttp://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/c02ee0e00afa972b94b0a4e9e5029b91-1.jpg

It should look like this: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/f8ba235954f539a3d8428c79d211f60d-1.jpg

And a big scratch on my right headlights: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/237be1145033b29e2a3d392ae37aecb1-1.jpg

Tomatoes

22-08-2014, 07:48 PM

mui_michael

22-08-2014, 07:58 PM

Wow Michael that sucks. Although I highly doubt that's Winpower's fault. A scratch like that wouldn't have passed QC. So it was probably caused when customs opened it up. The clips I found are slightly flimsy but it should be able to snap back on.
Hope the zoom works... if you look closely on the pointed areas you will see its been shaved off clean by something...... http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/a077d827052d7dc28c8c7ccea325eb5d-1.jpg

Do you guys think I should use sikaflex to hold the clip or send it back to winpower?

veew

22-08-2014, 08:46 PM

Damn man, if you fix it then you lose the "warranty" of being able to send it back for a replacement. Considering you have a few issues with our headlights (but even if it is just one), I would request for Mark to replace that headlight as I would classify this issue as significantly not a described (SNAD - Paypal: https://www.paypal.com/sg/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#7). I have all email communications for the whole group buy and it is extremely clear (around the time of QC and production issues) that we insisted on waiting a few extra days to ensure the headlights were sent out without issues, especially one as obvious as the headlight scratch.

I'd recommend everyone else having a good look at their headlights, taking plenty of photos and testing them like Tomatoes did even if they don't have time to install the lights. Post it on the thread and contact Mark, keep your email communications as you should provide this to Paypal as they can refer to this as part of the mediation process. Also if you do open up a Paypal dispute, ask me for email communications between Couchmotorist, Mark and I as it will provide all the information for Paypal.

Tomatoes

23-08-2014, 02:54 PM

Alright, so I've just spent a good 4 hours installing the lights. The instructions here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6m5ejpt0zjthi3t/AABTRc981NjpgXKTje8OKBVia

are all that you need, although I skipped step 4 as it wasn't necessary. Also you should try to get another person to help, as it was quite hard removing the headlights without another hand pulling the bumper. Also, you need a good set of tools, including a ratchet/socket wrench, and obviously a torx screwdriver set, which was necessary for removing the screws under the bumper. I didn't have time to do a DIY guide, but here's a before/after

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I noticed that when I plugged in the headlights one projector globe wasn't working. On further inspection I opened up the back where the leads from the ballast go in (just remove the 5 screws, it's easy) the red and black leads were disconnected from the connector. Putting those in fixed it. Although I still have to do some coding.

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A few words on the build quality. The lights are very solidly built, it feels similar to the stock OEM headlights. However, the clips (as in Michael's earlier post) are prone to come off, so make sure you secure them somehow when installing your xenon headlights otherwise they may drop to the bottom of the car and be very hard to get.

Any questions, feel free to ask. Good luck!

danielk

23-08-2014, 05:08 PM

11450
OMG ...My new WP lamps (both sides) get damp.
anyone can give me some advise for this?? do i have to resend that for warranty?

Eaglehawk

23-08-2014, 07:38 PM

I saw that damp thing happen when I first washed my Golf. It stopped doing it after the first wash. Monitor the situation I guess.

(It happened on the rear reverse lamp)

veew

23-08-2014, 08:36 PM

I think that condensation will settle after a few cycles of having the headlights on. I'd drive around with headlights on over a few days and see if it gets better

point

23-08-2014, 08:44 PM

I'm having regrets for going with the cheaper postage as i had this weekend off and could have fit them! haha

But they've arrived in Sydney so i should get them this week! Anyone in sydney wanna do a group install or got a VAGCOM cable to activate the DRLs with the main beam on/?

druster

24-08-2014, 04:20 PM

Hi guys,

Would anyone be able to let me know if there's another GB happening for these headlights? Keen on getting some soon..
Thanks!

sucnip

24-08-2014, 04:42 PM

mui_michael

24-08-2014, 05:40 PM

The GTI headlights is in!!!
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/56c39c1fccbc5b95670d7f3f28ed0eb3-1.jpg

It took me THREE FREAKING HOURS to buff out that scratch!!! Wash→super fine sand→wash→cut & polish(Meguiar's NXT Tech 2.0)→wipe→cut & polish→wipe→buff(Armor All Liquid Cut & Polish)→wipe clean→Plasti-Dip clear over coat and the result:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/6b6c24cd5dc128b7aeccf4fbd95019a0-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/32659ba6001d4560dbbeb8baf99db975-1.jpg

Side note: The metal plate that got snapped still couldn't be put back in but I re-used the original clip to hold the left headlight in place but the bolt just wouldn't budge and now it's sticking out a little bit, so come Monday I'll go in VW to see if they can get the damn thing in for me plus a replacement of the wiper blades(only had the car two months since new).

01_GOLF

24-08-2014, 05:48 PM

Hi guys,

Would anyone be able to let me know if there's another GB happening for these headlights? Keen on getting some soon..
Thanks!
Someone from our group buy has a set that he's selling cos he upgraded his car to one that already came with xenons:
FS: Mk7 Golf WinPower OEM style xenon lights with DRLs (http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?22838-FS-Mk7-Golf-WinPower-OEM-style-xenon-lights-with-DRLs)

Tomatoes

24-08-2014, 05:52 PM

Wow! Nice Michael - good to see that you fixed it with good old elbow grease. They look great though!

mui_michael

24-08-2014, 06:19 PM

Wow! Nice Michael - good to see that you fixed it with good old elbow grease. They look great though!
Thanks mate! I like to take this opportunity to thank YouTube...... hahaha

At first I didn't wanna damage it even more but after searching for removing deep cut/scratch and watched a few how-to's I took a spoon full of concrete and had a go, lucky everything worked out great.

Out of curiosity: How hard is it for you guys to screw these two bolt down? What method did you guys use? http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/63ef118915b4eedbf494fb4c5a889c93-1.jpg

veew

24-08-2014, 09:10 PM

Glad to hear you got it sorted Michael! Btw your red stripe lines up perfectly with the lights. Well hopefully I'll get mine tomorrow.

11450
OMG ...My new WP lamps (both sides) get damp.
anyone can give me some advise for this?? do i have to resend that for warranty?

Keep us posted with the progress of the condensation.

Tomatoes

25-08-2014, 12:14 PM

Keep us posted with the progress of the condensation.

I actually noticed some condensation on mine yesterday after we had a bit of rain, although it wasn't as bad as danielk's. Was gone this morning. I don't think it's anything to worry about.

Michael: those two bolts were actually quite easy to screw down, not sure if GTI is different, but it just needed some extra pressure from the screwdriver.

Jazrod

25-08-2014, 03:15 PM

Mine have come perfectly fine and in working order :)

point

25-08-2014, 04:58 PM

Yep, mine came today in perfect working order too.

How hard is the install? I got a quote a VolksMuller in Annangrove for approx $260 to install, im kinda tempted to get them to do it as i dont have to tools etc to do it nor the know how.

mui_michael

25-08-2014, 05:01 PM

It's easy mate, all you need is t25, t30 torx head screw driver, an 8mm, 10mm ratchet set and approximately 2hrs fitting time.

mui_michael

25-08-2014, 05:28 PM

The satisfaction you get far outweigh the hassle or ease of paying someone to do it for you mate.

mui_michael

25-08-2014, 05:37 PM

A little observation and adjustment I've made during the install:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/1f614a3de3ef112d62510ad6ebe006a1-1.jpg

Make sure you put automotive tape(painter's tape) on the corners of your front fenders and the front bumper(circled bit) as you will more than lightly bump into them during install. Also don't take the plastic sheets off your headlights until its been hold in place by two screws as this will protect you new lights a little bit more.

Flipper

25-08-2014, 08:58 PM

Im not sure what happening with mine at the moment. The tracking says they have been delivered.... in "City of Guangzhou". Perhaps they sent them to themselves lol

veew

25-08-2014, 09:29 PM

How hard is the install? I got a quote a VolksMuller in Annangrove for approx $260 to install, im kinda tempted to get them to do it as i dont have to tools etc to do it nor the know how.

Up to you but the installation seems easy as long as you borrow the right tools (that's what I'm doing) and you find someone to give you a hand.

Im not sure what happening with mine at the moment. The tracking says they have been delivered.... in "City of Guangzhou". Perhaps they sent them to themselves lol

I've emailed Mark about this...

danielk

26-08-2014, 08:45 AM

um...,the condensation on my lamps going worse. i can see the clear lamps in the morning, but after I hanging around in rain condensation that covers half of eyes... i will update with photos soon

01_GOLF

26-08-2014, 10:01 AM

How hard is the install? I got a quote a VolksMuller in Annangrove for approx $260 to install, im kinda tempted to get them to do it as i dont have to tools etc to do it nor the know how.
I'll do it for $250 ;) jks
I'm installing them with my brother on Sunday, if you need a hand I can come help you out as I'm in the hills district as well. I'll ask my brother if I can borrow his tools when I see him. The only problem is I work 6 days and I do weird hours at work (mostly afternoons and evenings)

point

26-08-2014, 11:57 AM

I've got a mate who's helping me install them this arvo so I should be set - where did you guys attach the ballasts?

Tomatoes

26-08-2014, 12:15 PM

I've got a mate who's helping me install them this arvo so I should be set - where did you guys attach the ballasts?

Underneath the headlight. There should be a little platform with screw holes, but it's not a clean fit, you might need to put the screw in at an angle.

point

26-08-2014, 05:49 PM

how'd you guys reach the two upside down screws on the sides of the bumper?

mui_michael

26-08-2014, 05:51 PM

10mm ratchet with or without extension mate.

mui_michael

26-08-2014, 05:53 PM

These two right?
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/6120f1870909277b9db7937bac445505-1.jpg

point

26-08-2014, 06:04 PM

yep those two, im up **** creek as one's no longer gripping the 10mm ratchet

im thinking of getting a 9mm and trying?

mui_michael

26-08-2014, 06:07 PM

Try a pair of pliers?

mui_michael

26-08-2014, 06:10 PM

If worst comes to worst, just use a Stanley knife to cut it as the two bolts are just plastic.

point

26-08-2014, 07:17 PM

okay ive got the left hand side light it, i tried it out but the bean is insanely low - it reaches at max 1 metre away from the car and it's not above the bonnet line when stationary - the stock halogen on the right is a lot brighter - anyone know what could be up?

mui_michael

26-08-2014, 07:26 PM

Use this for height adjustment:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/f157a2342ef32ea0cdf5bb81096675d3-1.jpg

And for brightness, mine is perfect but I've noticed that the plug needs to be push in very hard. The first time I pushed in, it didn't work...

point

26-08-2014, 08:55 PM

I've adjusted it as high as possible - even still it's extremely low - pointing down a street I get basically no light :/

veew

26-08-2014, 09:04 PM

Have you tried the dials at the back of the headlight to adjust the beam?

mui_michael

26-08-2014, 09:06 PM

Try these?
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/f7245bdd71095ed476ec12c888b0b51b-1.jpg

veew

26-08-2014, 09:07 PM

One of the Brazilian guys just posted this:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/Farol-1.jpg

It seems like he has a similar issue but pointing too high up.

I've picked up my headlights from DHL today, opened up the box to have a very quick look but will have a much closer look over the next few days. Hoping to install the headlights this weekend!

DeusLucem

26-08-2014, 10:05 PM

I found 2 parts at the bottom of the box on one of the headlights but they were easily re-attached. Nothing seems to be broken.
Closer inspection of the inside of the headlights shows a bit of dust and light marks.
In front of the one of the lights, the honeycomb pattern is broken from what appears to be impact damage. Very minute but I did notice it.

Hoping to install it this weekend. Anyone want to help and has a cable?

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veew

27-08-2014, 07:09 AM

um...,the condensation on my lamps going worse. i can see the clear lamps in the morning, but after I hanging around in rain condensation that covers half of eyes... i will update with photos soon

Mark stated there was heavy rain/higher humidity levels at the time of production which may explain why there is that much condensation, he suggested putting desiccant in the headlights to help absorb the moisture. See how you go and let us know if it improves the condensation.

veew

27-08-2014, 07:52 AM

I've adjusted it as high as possible - even still it's extremely low - pointing down a street I get basically no light :/

The photos I quickly took of my headlights last night show the rear adjusters circled.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/Headlights26_zps02611512-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Headlights-26_zps02611512.jpg.html)

They move the corresponding adjustors:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/Headlights25_zps28372654-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Headlights-25_zps28372654.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/Headlights24_zps42264922-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Headlights-24_zps42264922.jpg.html)

chibailah

27-08-2014, 09:32 PM

anyone in Perth have a VCD cable which they can help me program the DRL to stay on while the HID's are on??

mui_michael

27-08-2014, 09:50 PM

1 - Go to the module [09] CENT. ELETRONICS
2- Go to "SECURITY ACESS"
3- Digit the code 31347
4- After the code is acepted, go to ADAPTATION
5- Select Channel (5) Leuchte4TFLLB4 - Lichtfunktion B 4
6- Change status to "Abblendlicht Link"

1 - Go to the module [09] CENT. ELETRONICS
2- Go to "SECURITY ACESS"
3- Digit the code 31347
4- After the code is acepted, go to ADAPTATION
5- Select Channel (5) Leuchte5TFLRB32 - Lichtfunktion B 5
6- Change status to "Abblendlicht Rechts"*

Out of curiosity, does anyone in Brisbane have a VCDS cable?
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Tomatoes - Have you coded your headlights yet? How does it look? I wanna do mine too anyone able to help me out on this?

point

27-08-2014, 09:55 PM

Mine are currently installed, the projectors aimed and the DRLS coded and damn they look good! Having the LEDs on with the main beam looks great!

chibailah

27-08-2014, 09:57 PM

pics! please

veew

27-08-2014, 10:30 PM

Mine are currently installed, the projectors aimed and the DRLS coded and damn they look good! Having the LEDs on with the main beam looks great!

So was it the rear adjusters that you needed to get it pointed the right way?

I wanna see pics as well!

Tomatoes

27-08-2014, 10:34 PM

Tomatoes - Have you coded your headlights yet? How does it look? I wanna do mine too anyone able to help me out on this?

Yes mate, I have! I actually had the help of a fellow forum goer by the name of TJG. If you pm him and ask nicely maybe he can help you with a vcds cable haha! I'll post some pics tomorrow, but it looks dam good! You might need to also do some levelling.

mui_michael

27-08-2014, 10:44 PM

Sweet!!! Will contact him in the coming days. Thanks for the quick reply.

veew

28-08-2014, 07:46 AM

Underneath the headlight. There should be a little platform with screw holes, but it's not a clean fit, you might need to put the screw in at an angle.

I only received a packet of 2 screws. Did you guys secure the ballast underneath with one screw for each ballast or two?

KWS

28-08-2014, 02:37 PM

Just an update on my install – GTI

Mechanically the new units went in, after some time…….
I have not done any coding (if I can get the things to work, I might consider it)

When the car light switch is in low-beam (HID) only mode;
Both HID lamps on both sides are lit.
The passenger side front DRL is partially lit (this is NOT reflected light from any source), see attached *.jpg file.

After a few minutes the passenger side HID flickers and goes out. The driver’s side HID remains lit. At the same time, all DRL’s become lit (driver’s and passenger’s sides). The HID on the passenger’s side will not turn on, see attached *.jpg files.

I’m talking to Mark at Winpower, trying to work out what’s wrong.
Mark believes it is a coding issue. I don't think so.

I’ve commenced a Paypal dispute, my only protection. :11583
Some other pics, ...won't load!

Winpower have advised that they want me to do the coding (that I haven't done WTF?) before they will consider a ballast/controller solution.
Does anybody have a VCD who can help me in the Parramatta area asap ? Please PM me.
Thanks.

Tomatoes

28-08-2014, 03:15 PM

KWS, the problem sounds similar to mine that I had earlier. See if you can get to the back of your headlights and open up where the ballast leads go in, and check the connectors in there, one of them might be disconnected (pics in my post #169)

KWS

28-08-2014, 03:21 PM

Yeah, I've already pulled the thing out totally, disconnected every wire/connector and reconnected. Even took the HID bulb out to check the wiring on the end of it. Still the same problem.

I'm hoping somebody with a cable can help, even if it's only to prove the coding is not the issue.
How can coding be a problem if it's never been touched, or am I lucky enough to have my own special code assigned by VWA.
I don't think so!

veew

28-08-2014, 10:10 PM

Well this is retarded. I tried to do the installation of the headlights but got stuck after removing the M10 bolts from underneath the bumper. The bumper wouldn't swing out like it would in the photos and after a fair amount of fiddling, cussing and praying I don't break the bumper, I gave up and rescrewed everything back on.

I temporarily connected my headlights up last night and they seem to be operating satisfactorily so I'm happy with that. I just need to find someone willing to fit these headlights for a decent price.

mui_michael

28-08-2014, 10:16 PM

veew

28-08-2014, 10:23 PM

I'm in Adelaide mate, thanks for the offer tho!

mui_michael

28-08-2014, 10:26 PM

All good mate, sorry I couldn't help.

point

28-08-2014, 10:38 PM

Those of you that have had your lights coded - do your DRLs dim when the main beam is on? Mine don't and they're super bright at night to the point that they could attract police attention as DRLs must dim when main beams are on?

veew

28-08-2014, 10:57 PM

point

29-08-2014, 08:43 AM

Code it as per the video I linked on the first page. That shows how different values affect the DRL brightness

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Gvy8RG3ik (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F v%3DQ5Gvy8RG3ik)

Yep the codes I entered when I had access to a cable were incorrect then - anyone in Sydney able to help me out for a cable?

Tomatoes

29-08-2014, 09:05 AM

Code it as per the video I linked on the first page. That shows how different values affect the DRL brightness

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Gvy8RG3ik (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3F v%3DQ5Gvy8RG3ik)

Can confirm that if you follow all the codes in here it works.

veew

29-08-2014, 11:07 PM

I'm going to have another go installing these headlights on Sunday as Mark is pulling something dodgy with KWS and therefore I want to know if I have to open up a Paypal dispute within 45 days of payment.

My installation questions are:
1) Regarding step 1: The last time I removed all the screws on the black grill (top and front facing), I wasn't able to lift it adequately to loosen the front grill and remove it from the bumper. What did you guys do?

2) Regarding step 2: Once you remove the M10 "nuts" from underneath the side bumper, do you have to pull the sides of the bumper down before pulling it out to the sides? I wasn't able to get it to swing out to the side and thats as far as I got before bailing on the installation.

3) Regarding step 3: There were only 2 Torx screws for that metal bracket that holds the headlights in place, the PDF file states there are 3 screws. How many screws did you guys encounter?

Also for the group buy participants, if there are any issues with your headlights, please post it up on the forum as it gives me an idea of the quality of the headlights received and also for future potential purchasers. I would like to remind you that you only have 4-6 days left to open up a Paypal dispute if you have any issues with the headlights that require Mark to address. I paid on the 20th of July so today is 40 days following payment.

An issue that is in progress b/w Mark and KWS is KWS is asking Mark to send another ballast. The VCDS coding suggested by Mark did not address the issues experienced. Mark contacted KWS via Paypal (a dispute is currently open) stating he would send the ballast. Mark, however, emailed KWS outside of Paypal stating he would only send the ballast if KWS closed the Paypal dispute.

In this situation if KWS closes the dispute, he CANNOT reopen it and therefore will not have any protection from Paypal.
In light of the dodgy behaviour exhibited by Mark, I would like to remind you your Paypal Buyer Protection is the only thing that will ensure Mark does the right thing. Use the Paypal dispute if you have an issue that needs to be resolved, if it is then you can close the dispute. The dispute and claim process provides up to 50 days for you and Mark to resolve the issue.

Refer to the first page of this thread (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/group-buy-aftermarket-bixenon-headlights-winpower-lamps-98267.html#post1069640) for all the Paypal Protection policies and fine print.

Tomatoes

30-08-2014, 08:53 AM

hey veew, so I've coded and installed mine and they are in perfect working order, no complaints from me. Re. your questions:

1: So once you remove the two screws left and right from the grille, you just need some extra pressure - since the grille is attached down into the bumper and back perpendicular to it, you need to pull it in two ways.

2) Once you remove the 6 screws from underneath the wheel well/bumper cover, you need to unsnap the bumper, it's just attached via plastic clips. It needs quite a lot of force, but it's pretty sturdy, don't worry about breaking it. Once you unsnap the bumper, you'll need another hand to pull it while you take out the headlights - that was the most tricky part of the process.

3) There's three - two on the metal bracket, and one deep down near the bottom of the headlight, you'll need to look carefully - maybe use a torch.

veew

31-08-2014, 05:12 PM

Well I've finally installed my headlights. I had a few issues along the way but they're finally in now.

The major issue is the left headlight doesn't adjust high enough, I've definitely got the adjuster at the rear of the headlight clicked to its limit and the interior adjustors are also at their highest setting. The distance to the garage door is only about 3 to 4 metres so the left headlight would be useless in normal driving conditions.
The duct tape on my garage door indicate my OEM halogen cutoff height when the interior adjustor is set at the half way mark (1.5). There still is significantly more adjustment up and down that could be made with the adjustors on the back of the OEM headlight.

I am annoyed this issue wasn't seen as part of WPlamps QC process, it is a very simple thing to check.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5538_zps2f17ec51-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5538_zps2f17ec51.jpg.html)

Videos of the problem:
WPlamps Golf 7 faulty headlight adjustor - YouTube (http://youtu.be/SaiD8UwFZcg)
WPlamps Golf 7 headlight adjustor problem - YouTube (http://youtu.be/mx4g9l7beU4)

The other minor issues that I could live with include dust and lint inside the headlight (pointed to by the red lines), damage to the hexagonal plastic just like DeusLucern's headlight and broken connectors requiring the OEM ones to be used instead.
Fit and finish once installed is otherwise satisfactory. The dust and lint on the inside of the headlight lens doesn't bother me too much as it doesn't affect the headlight projection itself but the left beam is useless as it only illuminates about 10 metres of ground ahead of the vehicle.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5540edit_zps5e82736e-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5540edit_zps5e82736e.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5541edit_zps65f3d0cb-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5541edit_zps65f3d0cb.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5547_zps14d58597-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5547_zps14d58597.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5546_zpse20bc15e-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5546_zpse20bc15e.jpg.html)http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5544_zps94104369-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5544_zps94104369.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5545_zpse837727f-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5545_zpse837727f.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5560_zps2a84133a-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5560_zps2a84133a.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5562_zps1019ccb1-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5562_zps1019ccb1.jpg.html)

mui_michael

31-08-2014, 09:24 PM

Today was my turn to have something stuffing up with my WinPowerLamps... A vehicle warning icon has popped up!!!

Error code - check right dipped headlight beam!
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/4204b6293afba5d1828aab49d23b7b29-1.jpg

If I can't get it fixed tomorrow I will open a dispute with PayPal. I hope this is an easy fix for Mark!!! I'm starting to think this is just another backyard company from China......

veew

31-08-2014, 09:48 PM

Well I've just finished going for a night drive. The left headlight is absolutely useless, illuminates only 5 metres ahead of the vehicle. The right headlight at the maximum height is not high enough. Around town the right headlight beam is passable only because there are plenty of street lights around but when there aren't (as you'll see in the 2nd video), the light beam is inadequate in distance and power.

I took the following videos on my GoPro Hero 2:

Driving around town WPlamps Golf 7 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/DGh5vjKyHpY)

WPlamps Golf 7 driving in the hills - YouTube (http://youtu.be/0eKND_12bMg) (or the short version: Driving in the hills WPlamps Golf 7 V2 short version - YouTube (http://youtu.be/zE01W8Wsy0M))

Comparison photos of OEM headlights with Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited vs WPlamps V2 headlights:

Osram NBU
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison03_zps774994a8-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-03_zps774994a8.jpg.html)
WPlamps (the cutoff isn't as crisp as the OEM halogen lights which is disappointing, also doesn't stay nice and horizontal off to the sides)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5572_zps63cfb221-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5572_zps63cfb221.jpg.html)
Osram NBU
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/Allcomparison06_zpsc285ae29-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-06_zpsc285ae29.jpg.html)
WPlamp
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5568_zps2c82fdf0-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5568_zps2c82fdf0.jpg.html)
Osram NBU
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison16_zps63ec5e50-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-16_zps63ec5e50.jpg.html)
WPlamp (notice how the left side is not as well lit, also the right side trees and road guards are not lit as well as the stock halogen headlights)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5565_zpsf857dfcb-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5565_zpsf857dfcb.jpg.html)

WPlamp low beam (notice the left beam cutoff seen as a hotspot)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5570_zps4b09202d-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5570_zps4b09202d.jpg.html)
WPlamp high beam
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5571_zps58043dfd-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5571_zps58043dfd.jpg.html)

01_GOLF

31-08-2014, 11:09 PM

I installed mine today, when I first installed them the right headlight was way too low but after lots of adjustment I think they're all good now. Sorry to hear about you guys having problems

veew

02-09-2014, 07:27 AM

Well I contacted Mark Sunday night about my issues, he said that the reason why the left headlight was limited in upward adjustment was because the left/right adjustments were at their maximal. Well, after much adjustment with the left headlights (both with the lights on and off the car) there was almost no difference in beam height. The right headlights adjusted much better. With the internal headlight beam adjuster set to the highest, it was able to go higher than I needed when adjusted to its highest setting using the rear headlight adjuster (useful for driving on dark, empty country roads with infrequent oncoming traffic without necessitating the use of high beams).
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/IMG_5696_zps10ec0bc1-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5696_zps10ec0bc1.jpg.html)

A drive around town demonstrated an improvement compared to before. As the source of illumination was solely from the right headlight (the left headlight just pointed to the ground or at the left rear tyres of cars in front) there wasn't the power you would expect of xenons. If only the left headlight was able to be aimed up at the same level there would be additive lighting power where the beams crossed over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6CKZBtw2oM&feature=youtu.be (http://youtu.be/R6CKZBtw2oM)

Before maximal adjustment (low beam)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/IMG_5570_zps4b09202d-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5570_zps4b09202d.jpg.html)
After maximal adjustment (low beam)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/IMG_5683_zps310a4521-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5683_zps310a4521.jpg.html)
Before maximal adjustment (high beam)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/IMG_5682_zpsc74b6ef1-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5682_zpsc74b6ef1.jpg.html)
After maximal adjustment (high beam)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/IMG_5684_zps16ae2559-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5684_zps16ae2559.jpg.html)

Driving in the hills again demonstrated an improvement but was disappointing in illuminating the left roadside (useful to see wildlife or mobile speed cameras around town?). As the WPlamps xenon beam cutoffs taper downwards the further away from the beam, it doesn't illuminate corners as well as my motorbike used to (which had $120 projector bixenon headlights) just before entering corners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgGJI2Us4tY&list=UUUu2k5vzv_n_46H15LIsUUw
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/IMG_5694_zpsa5a96811-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5694_zpsa5a96811.jpg.html)
My motorbike bixenon beam
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/th_3_zps96af6932-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Bixenon%20Projector%20HID%20retrofit/3_zps96af6932.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/_MG_6216png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Bixenon%20Projector%20HID%20retrofit/_MG_6216.png.html)

I've had a good look inside the low beam housing to make sure that turning the adjustors was actually doing something. The yellow plastic part in the bottom left adjusts the headlight height.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMfy6jdQmr4&list=UUUu2k5vzv_n_46H15LIsUUw

The adjuster set at the lowest beam height
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/IMG_5658_zps1f7d2f04-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5658_zps1f7d2f04.jpg.html)
The adjuster set at the highest beam height
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/IMG_5659_zps77a83d97-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5659_zps77a83d97.jpg.html)

An interior inspection video of the low beam housing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVCtkMtvjZA&list=UUUu2k5vzv_n_46H15LIsUUw

As the adjustors chew up easily, as seen by the left/right adjustor on the left headlight, I could only adjust them with the headlights off the car.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/IMG_5667_zpsbd72f0d1-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5667_zpsbd72f0d1.jpg.html)
They should look like this:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/IMG_5668_zps77a5d5de-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5668_zps77a5d5de.jpg.html)

Overall I'm just frustrated with the whole process with these headlights. They're not up to scratch, shouldn't have passed their QC as they are and as a result I've wasted a sh*tload of time on these headlights. I'll see what Mark will offer but I'm not sure what I'm going to do just yet.

veew

03-09-2014, 01:51 PM

I spent all yesterday afternoon and night trying to reset the headlights multiple times. I tried to reinsert the adjustor fully extended and fully shortened and tested to see what the headlight level was like and how much it could be adjusted. Unfortunately it wasn't able to be adjusted any different despite having the right/left adjuster in the middle of its range.

This is the video Mark sent me to reset the adjuster: Golf 7 Wplamps V2 - resetting the headlight adjuster - YouTube (http://youtu.be/1JoNqJ8ha0w)

I saw Leovasquez have the opposite problem to me where one beam was too high.
Entrar - forum.VWGolfClub.com (http://www.vwgolfclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=43756&page=14)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/ScreenShot20140902at115300pm_zps26db3ff8-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/ScreenShot2014-09-02at115300pm_zps26db3ff8.png.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/ScreenShot20140902at115319pm_zps6d7eb2e6-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/ScreenShot2014-09-02at115319pm_zps6d7eb2e6.png.html)

His problem was the headlight adjustor was not clicked into the white piece as shown in the photos. After he clicked it in it was in the right adjustment range. The problem with my headlights was there was not enough range with the adjustor to push the bottom of the headlight to aim the beam high enough. I ended up leaving the yellow adjustor not clicked into the white plastic, I tied shoe lace string (I tried sewing thread but that broke) around the white part and the yellow adjustor ball so they stay together when I adjust the yellow adjuster up and down. This has resulted in the left beam higher than before and is within acceptable normal limits.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/IMG_5703_zpsb2e2cb7c-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5703_zpsb2e2cb7c.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/IMG_5711_zpscca50c62-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5711_zpscca50c62.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/IMG_5716_zpscc2c3999-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/IMG_5716_zpscc2c3999.jpg.html)

This is a short video showing part of how I went about doing the ghetto modification, it wasn't easy but was made slightly easier with decent gloves and mosquito tweezers and needle tip clamps. The video starts after I had already made my initial loop around the white plastic part.
http://youtu.be/J8vcBQbfaCc

Video driving around town after the ghetto mod:
http://youtu.be/qRd0bJU2ZPs

Video driving in the hills after the ghetto mod:
http://youtu.be/Du8Eh5f_N28

Despite finally reaching a satisfactory light beam output and height, I'm very unhappy with how these headlights were sent. Without the modification the left headlights would still be pointing down at the road only 4 metres in front of the car.
This is a fault with the headlights and it should have been picked up in QC.

I spent considerable time researching and making sure I would end up with a good product that didn't require me to spend days fixing and installing the headlights! The problem with this whole group buy was Mark rushed us into completing the group buy, with a reduced minimum number of units before August, promising they would be made before their busy production period in August. Mark failed to check with production that they had enough material to fulfil the promise of producing the headlights and shipping them out 4 days after payment. There were multiple delays, the rush in production causing quality control issues resulting in further delays, these headlights came so late in the Paypal Buyer Protection period. Today is the last day for me to open a Paypal dispute which is why I had to make sure these headlights reached a level I could use. The option of returning the headlights would come at a considerable cost to me and therefore is a last resort.

I'm currently seeing if Mark will compensate me for the substandard headlights, the amount of time I've put into the group buy and the business I've brought him. We'll see what he says, for me this was a lesson learnt. No amount of preparation with Chinese manufacturers such as WPlamps will minimise the amount of sh*t that will hit the fan.

Edit: I opened up a Paypal dispute, will see how this goes.

DeusLucem

04-09-2014, 11:27 AM

OK...so after seeing a few people with issues, I decided to check out my own headlights. I managed to get the grill off, but then I got stuck with trying to remove the second screw holding the bumper in place (the one closer to the front) - I just couldn't find it.

And it could be just me but the plastic cover shown in Page 3 doesn't look like mine. Mine looks like 2 pieces and the bottom part seems very firmly fixed. Anyway, I didn't investigate too much further because it started raining so I quickly put everything back together =(

However, I would like to test that at least the lights work, does anyone have any pics or instructions on what connectors I need to use to test the lights?
And given the crappy weather in Sydney right now, I am very tempted to pay someone to install and code them at this stage.

01_GOLF

04-09-2014, 12:24 PM

Yeah mate, all the cables from the light plug into the ballast cables and then the cable from the car headlight plugs into the back of the ballast. Just sit your new headlights on top of the old ones, they're pretty easy to test out

DeusLucem

04-09-2014, 04:54 PM

I know this might seem dumb but if I plug in all the cables from the headlight into the ballast, there are no cables left. I've only got 3 cables and the headlight has 3 cables. Did I get a dodgy ballast?

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And which cable should I pull from the existing headlight?
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mui_michael

04-09-2014, 05:45 PM

Pull this plug:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/2d7752581dacfe1f06332b8488540560-1.jpg

Insert it to here:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/e0c93d05d8cd8b1b02cf230ba4a914cf-1.jpg

PS. - Sorry Andrew I took your pic :-p

Tomatoes

04-09-2014, 05:47 PM

DeusLucem, see the front page of this thread, theres a picture with red circles on how to connect the ballast to the headlight.

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Pull the cable with red circle out, and put it into to your new headlight. Theres a slot that you can see if you look carefully on the inside of the WPlamp headlight

edit: michael beat me to it. lol

veew

04-09-2014, 07:28 PM

Hey Deus, after my first attempt to do the install, I came across this video, it is an awesome walkthrough of how to do the headlights! Shows you how much force the car will actually take (a lot more than you expect)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymfSdOdjprQ

DeusLucem

04-09-2014, 10:28 PM

Oops...I must have missed the original post. Thanks guys...will give it go tomorrow (if it's not too wet).

Arnold

05-09-2014, 10:30 AM

Wouldn't you wait for LED . . . now becoming standard on Euro marques like new C-Class and about to supersede Bi-xenon as an option.

DeusLucem

05-09-2014, 10:53 AM

Ok...so I've tested the lights and unfortunately I will have to open a PayPal dispute as the Left Hand HID is not working. Interestingly though, the LED DRL stays on when the HID turns on.
Left HID bulb - won't turn on.
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Everything else works, Indicator, High Beam, DRL.
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Right hand side is fine (but does anyone know what the middle bulb is for? It's not even connected).
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Tomatoes

05-09-2014, 12:16 PM

DeusLucem, see one of my previous posts, I had the exact same problem. Check post #169, your connectors might have become disconnected. Try that first.

DeusLucem

05-09-2014, 01:49 PM

DeusLucem, see one of my previous posts, I had the exact same problem. Check post #169, your connectors might have become disconnected. Try that first.

Hi Tomatoes,

I did see your post and it was the first thing I checked. I even tried switching ballasts...no change. I am currently in communication with Mark from WinPower. Hopefully it's a simple (and quick) swap.

Flipper

05-09-2014, 03:48 PM

Well after a false start my lights finally arrived so I plugged them in to try them out and there's a problem with the DRL's. When you turn on the headlight 1 DRL on the RHS stays on at about 1/2 brightness and 1 on the LHS flickers on and off so right now they are unusable. The easiest way to see the problem is when the indicator is on the DRL on that side should go out but from the pics you can see they don't. I'l email Mark now and see what he has to say.

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veew

05-09-2014, 05:15 PM

So far that means 50% of the headlights sent out have issues with them. I'm sure anyone following our group buy progress wont be keen on getting a set from WPlamps. Despite insisting multiple times we were happy to wait a few more days to ensure the headlights were perfect...what a cock up.

point

06-09-2014, 10:01 AM

Lol yep. My left projector has sagged significantly lower than the right so I think I'll open up a PayPal dispute too - I'm also going to look into OEM xenon retrofits, I can't stand halogens.

veew

06-09-2014, 02:41 PM

Guys, it seems that the Paypal disputes lodged on the 45th day post payment is automatically escalated to a claim. On lodging a Paypal dispute, you don't have 30 days where it can be escalated to a claim but a dispute can be escalated by the 45th day post payment. Therefore if you try and put up a dispute and it goes straight to a claim then you've done it on the 45th day. Lodge the claim and hopefully Mark will resolve the issue in less than 20 days.

I was offered a Paypal refund but that requires me sending the headlights back. In my claim I requested Mark to compensate me $US200, which I hope will be fulfilled, as I would lose more money paying for shipping to return the headlights. I've called Paypal a few times so far and yesterday they gave me an email address, to send in extra information, so they can take that into consideration before making a final decision with regards to my claim.

When contacting Mark, Cc me into the emails as I'll build up a collection of correspondences. Once I've delete all our personal details from the correspondences I will upload these so that future buyers interested in WPlamps will see what kind of transaction they can expect in future. Let me know if you don't want me putting up your correspondences.

Also guys, Mark has requested some of the forum members to close the Paypal disputes before he will send out replacement ballasts. I would like to reinforce that if you close a dispute, it cannot be reopened. Only close a dispute when your problem has been resolved.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/KevinWPlampsGTiemailcorrespondence_zps66-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/KevinWPlampsGTiemailcorrespondence_zps667559da.jpg .html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/ScreenShot20140906at22503pm_zps5a2c14ebp-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/ScreenShot2014-09-06at22503pm_zps5a2c14eb.png.html)

A recent email (below) from Mark states his boss is very unhappy with how we're dealing with our group buy and how many of us opened Paypal disputes. His boss will not consider making/selling headlights to Australia anymore and will only accept payment by Western Union/bank transfer. This means that future buyers will have no consumer protection from this company who has, so far, shown absolute disregard to the quality of the products made and shipped to buyers.

Dear "DeusLucem",

Please exchange the ballast for left light ballast to right light ballast, right light ballast to left light ballast, and see what happen.

PS: Look, you should talk to us first before you open the dispute. So you through we would not help you if you don’t open the dispute? Because of you and other guys who keep open the dispute again and again, Seriously affect the reputation of our company. Our boss is angry. He said will stop to selling to Australia anymore! We are given up the Australia Market. Because the reputation is the most important to us. We have very goods reputations in the world; we don’t to loss it because of the Australia. You are not trusted!

Dear "Veew"/"Couchmotorist",

We are very grateful for you what you have done for the first group buy. Thank you very much, and also apology for not let you all understand our product before ordering. And please do not creating the second group buy. We are not accepted. We only accept western union and by bank, if they trust us, then they can order, if not, then that’s ok, thanks.

But if other guys still have any problem, just let me know, we will still help them, thanks.

Best Regards,
Mark

Win Power International Techonology Co., Ltd.

We have been emailing Mark first with our issues but are forced to open up Paypal disputes 45 days post payment. If he hadn't misled us and delayed shipping (multiple times) the headlights for at least 3 weeks, we would've had more time to resolve the problem before being forced to open up Paypal disputes.

What does he mean by "apology for not understanding our product before ordering"? What is there to understand, the headlights either work or they don't. They're not children who develop based on nature and nurture, they are Plug and Play (as advertised) or they aren't! A common reply to our issues is to try VCDS coding, unfortunately VCDS coding will not remedy problems with manufacturing of the headlight or ballasts.

If Mark and WPlamps had actually taken a few extra days to produce the headlights and ensure they were in perfect order, no one would have received substandard headlights and therefore no Paypal disputes would have been opened. Their tarnished reputation was their own doing.

Where do we go from here?
For those who have issues with your headlights, request for an email address from Paypal (go to Contact in the Paypal page and get a one time code, call the number and explain your issue) so you can send the appropriate evidence (PDF'd email communications between you and Mark, the forum thread links). I have the other PDF files I can email you from before the items were sent. Include links to the forum thread as well so they can go through the evidence and try to get what you want.

For most of you, it may be partial compensation rather than receiving a refund (which involves sending the headlights back at your own, likely to be considerable, cost!). I would suggest you post your issues (including plenty of pictures/video) in detail on this thread so Paypal, as well as other future buyers, can follow it.

I think I have most of your emails but just PM me your email address if I haven't already received it already, I will email you my PDF files.

Good luck and keep us informed of your progress.

mui_michael

06-09-2014, 02:51 PM

Guys, it seems that the Paypal disputes lodged on the 45th day post payment is automatically escalated to a claim. On lodging a Paypal dispute, you don't have 30 days where it can be escalated to a claim but a dispute can be escalated by the 45th day post payment. Therefore if you try and put up a dispute and it goes straight to a claim then you've done it on the 45th day. Lodge the claim and hopefully Mark will resolve the issue in less than 20 days.

I was offered a Paypal refund but that requires me sending the headlights back. In my claim I requested Mark to compensate me $US200, which I hope will be fulfilled, as I would lose more money paying for shipping to return the headlights. I've called Paypal a few times so far and yesterday they gave me an email address, to send in extra information, so they can take that into consideration before making a final decision with regards to my claim.

When contacting Mark, Cc me into the emails as I'll build up a collection of correspondences. Once I've delete all our personal details from the correspondences I will upload these so that future buyers interested in WPlamps will see what kind of transaction they can expect in future. Let me know if you don't want me putting up your correspondences.

Also guys, Mark has requested some of the forum members to close the Paypal disputes before he will send out replacement ballasts. I would like to reinforce that if you close a dispute, it cannot be reopened. Only close a dispute when your problem has been resolved.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/ScreenShot20140906at21624pm_zpseb8eb2c6p-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/ScreenShot2014-09-06at21624pm_zpseb8eb2c6.png.html)

A recent email (below) from Mark states his boss is very unhappy with how we're dealing with our group buy and how many of us opened Paypal disputes. His boss will not consider making/selling headlights to Australia anymore and will only accept payment by Western Union/bank transfer. This means that future buyers will have no consumer protection from this company who has, so far, shown a disregard to the quality of the products made and shipped to buyers.

Dear "DeusLucem",

Please exchange the ballast for left light ballast to right light ballast, right light ballast to left light ballast, and see what happen.

PS: Look, you should talk to us first before you open the dispute. So you through we would not help you if you don’t open the dispute? Because of you and other guys who keep open the dispute again and again, Seriously affect the reputation of our company. Our boss is angry. He said will stop to selling to Australia anymore! We are given up the Australia Market. Because the reputation is the most important to us. We have very goods reputations in the world; we don’t to loss it because of the Australia. You are not trusted!

Dear "Veew"/"Couchmotorist",

We are very grateful for you what you have done for the first group buy. Thank you very much, and also apology for not let you all understand our product before ordering. And please do not creating the second group buy. We are not accepted. We only accept western union and by bank, if they trust us, then they can order, if not, then that’s ok, thanks.

But if other guys still have any problem, just let me know, we will still help them, thanks.

Best Regards,
Mark

Win Power International Techonology Co., Ltd.

We have been emailing Mark first with our issues but are forced to open up Paypal disputes 45 days post payment. If he hadn't misled us and delayed shipping (multiple times) the headlights for at least 3 weeks, we would've had more time to resolve the problem before being forced to open up Paypal disputes.

What does he mean by "apology for not understanding our product before ordering"? What is there to understand, the headlights either work or they don't. They're not children who develop based on nature and nurture, they are Plug and Play (as advertised) or they aren't! A common reply to our issues is to try VCDS coding, unfortunately VCDS coding will not remedy problems with manufacturing of the headlight or ballasts.

If Mark and WPlamps had actually taken a few extra days to produce the headlights and ensure they were in perfect order, no one would have received substandard headights and therefore no Paypal disputes would have been opened. Their tarnished reputation was their own doing.

Where do we go from here?
For those who have issues with your headlights, request for an email address from Paypal (go to Contact in the Paypal page and get a one time code, call the number and explain your issue) so you can send the appropriate evidence (PDF'd email communications between you and Mark, the forum thread links). I have the other PDF files I can email you from before the items were sent. Include links to the forum thread as well so they can go through the evidence and try to get what you want.

For most of you, it may be partial compensation rather than receiving a refund (which involves sending the headlights back at your own, likely to be considerable, cost!). I would suggest you post your issues (including plenty of pictures/video) in detail on this thread so Paypal, as well as other future buyers, can follow it.

I think I have most of your emails but just PM me your email address if I haven't already received it already, I will email you my PDF files.

Good luck and keep us informed of your progress.
Thanks for the info, I will make a call to PayPal with my issue let's just hope PayPal recognize our group buy and help us getting a compensation in my case and for others......