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SOHC
20-05-2006, 04:47 PM
My roof trimming is falling off, opened up the foam/spongy stuff juz couldn't stick back on, has anyone got experience of fixing that? if i go for a trimmer what they will do n are they expensive?

Cheers,
Carlson

imported_brackie
20-05-2006, 04:49 PM
Spray-on craft glue works well. It's contact adhesive in an aerosol.

SOHC
20-05-2006, 04:58 PM
kae, thanks for the fast reply, go n get some now :D
heard of that b4 i think

Golf Loon
20-05-2006, 06:14 PM
If its knackered, you can buy fabric from a trimmers and do it yourself. If you take the headboard out and peel the old stuff of. You just need spray on contact glue and new headlining. Looks like new and you can change the colour! 8)

golfvr6
21-05-2006, 08:02 PM
in my experience fabric glue won't solvve the prob - only temporary - will start falling again. especially if there are remnants of the lining glue there. plus it tends to soak right thru the material

had to get a car rertrimmed not b4 trying it though (not my golf though)

syncro
22-05-2006, 07:48 AM
It's cheap and only about 2 or 3 hours work to get done by a trimmer.
It's not just the glue that failed, but the foam backing. I think it cost me less than $200 for my '86 (with sunroof) including material.

SOHC
23-05-2006, 07:02 PM
yep, i go the spray on glue n its working...but as u guyz say won't be long after it falls back down. so the foam will be in the retrimming part aye?

Cheers
Carlson

syncro
24-05-2006, 06:07 PM
They pull the whole board out and clean it completely. Then they glue on some new foam backed headliner. Then it's good for another 20 years.

bombsquad21
31-07-2006, 11:36 PM
there is a guy in Springwood, Brisbane that does headinlings for $80 I think, I was gonna get mine redone in black(it's grey at the moment). Not really worth the effort do do it yourself at that cost. Mine is covered in stains from the previous owner.

golf3
01-08-2006, 10:10 AM
Totally stolen from the TEX DIY...



Note that the MK2 Headlinner has a ''fiberglass shell'' but the MK3 does NOT. It is constructed in a manner of layers: Fabric, foam, construction paper, more foam, last sheet of construction paper.

When I did mine, I did not do what the MK2 fellows do, such as tear off old fabric and scrub off foam residue to leave but the shell.

I was kind of worried that if I tried to take off the old fabric, it would pull some foam off as well and end up tearing out spots of the construction paper. That would have turned out a disaster...beeing that there is no shell. I would have ended up with holes in the headlinner.

Therefor, I stuck my fabric right over the original one, since it was freshly vaccumed, and had no saggin spots.

It is a good idea to have an other set of helping hands! It took me 3 hours to do a great job.

1- What I did is that I got 2 BIG cans of 3M Super 77 spray adhesive:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2339-1.jpg


2- Then I took my fabric of choice, in my case black Suede.

3- I started by laying-out the fabric on the headlinner and cut off excess. Made sure I was setting the head linner on a solid surface.

4- I left about 6 inches all around to make the final edges and give slack for all the recesses to get filled. Note that the picture was taken after everything was stuck on. The 6 inches I left turned out to give me enough to do the edges.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2360-1.jpg

5- Once layed out flat and trimmed, I over lapped the fabric on it self, using the rear handle recesses as an imaginary guide line. There fore, I had both suede sides facing each other, folded one on each other, revealling the rear of the head liner from the handles to the back.

6- I applied some of the spray adhesive, going from the left of the head linner to the right, moving towards the back only about 15-18 inches. I then added a coat on the back side of the suede in the same motion. While doing this, it allowed the coat on the head linner to cure a little. I then added a second coat going from back to front ( opposite direction ) and did the same on the fabric.

7- I used a Richard's yellow handle fabric roller (seen in this pic...) to roll the freshly glued fabric in all the corners.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2671-1.jpg

8- Once the fabric rolled in, I proceded to move towards the back an other 1 ft or so repeating steps 6 and 7.

9- Once the back half was done to satisfaction, I flipped the other half of the non glued fabric over the newly finished glued back half.

10- Repeated steps 6 and 7 for everything done towards the front.

11- I started doing the edges and folding them back. By now you should be runnig low on glue. It is important to apply lots of it and wait between coats for it to cure to have optimal results, as I have seen some that have been cheap on it and their ''new'' head linner is already sagging!

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2361-1.jpg

golf3
01-08-2006, 10:11 AM
12- Cut out all holes and reinstall linner.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2359-1.jpg

13- Have a sit in theese...

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2376-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2375-1.jpg

Enjoy what you have accomplished!

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2371-1.jpg

golf3
01-08-2006, 10:12 AM
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2370-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2369-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2364-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2362-1.jpg

golf3
01-08-2006, 10:13 AM
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2353-1.jpg

If I can give a hint, it would be wise to cut an X ( corner to corner ) where the Dome Light Switch goes prior to rolling it once glued. It will allow you to roll the fabric correctly into that curb ( right where the miror is, between the switch and windshield ) and reduce the chance of having creasses.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/08/HPIM2366-1.jpg

Make it a bit smaller that the actual cut-out, cause you will want to make a nice border after. Besides, you don't know exactly how the fabric stretches and you could end-up having a cut in the fabric where you don't want to.

In a SHORTER VERSION:

Thanks to Kevin

SOHC
01-08-2006, 05:04 PM
Thanks Sean, yep... and I did try to pull the rest off, so there are wholes on the foam. However, mine only appeared to have a layer of fabric and then the foam?! and now it looks crap, I reckon I better leave it for the pro's to do then. If I need the foam to be redo, will it cost more?

Cheers,
Carlson

Golf Loon
05-08-2006, 03:18 PM
Nice description and Job Sean.

Is your car a 2 door? Sweet. And now a 16v GTI Mk3 :)

golf3
05-08-2006, 06:39 PM
Err....

I didn't do that work, i stole that info from another forum...

IT's NOT ME!!

Golf Loon
05-08-2006, 06:43 PM
You robber!
Nice description tho. fair enuff.