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Baz 55
23-10-2013, 09:17 PM
Comfortline 90kw 200nm petrol
Usually drive in Eco Mode (DSG)
2000k on the clock.
Long Term 5.8l per 100km
Last Tank 5.5l per 100km
Driving - city / outer urban mix.
Fuel 95 Ron (just found out I should be using 98 Ron (oops) Next tank :-)

bennjamin
24-10-2013, 07:21 AM
No idea how you are obtaining those numbers lol.
Tsi comfortline, 6000kms, drive around in normal D mode - long term 7.8l/100kms. 98RON
Mostly city driving, which mind you I'm still pretty happy getting 550-600 kms out of a tank where my old mk5 gti had trouble getting above 400 for the same use !

Transporter
24-10-2013, 07:35 AM
No idea how you are obtaining those numbers lol.
Tsi comfortline, 6000kms, drive around in normal D mode - long term 7.8l/100kms. 98RON
Mostly city driving, which mind you I'm still pretty happy getting 550-600 kms out of a tank where my old mk5 gti had trouble getting above 400 for the same use !

The Op's city driving conditions could be very different to yours. Also, he may've mastered how to drive for the fuel economy. ;)

GeckoZAO
24-10-2013, 01:46 PM
so you've got adaptive chassis control?

rpps
24-10-2013, 06:39 PM
I'm getting 5.9per/100 klm long term on my TSI 90TSI combine city/hwy

Baz 55
24-10-2013, 08:22 PM
Thanks for your replies. After I wrote the post I realised that most MK7's won't have Economy mode as I think it only comes with the Driver assist package. (Is that right ?) Anyway I don't have tuned suspension and I don't "flog" the car but a little sport mode is always on the go :-) Economy mode has coasting - so you get used to taking your foot off the pedal coming to lights, intersections etc and then you realise just how far the Golf will coast for and maintain speed. I am taking my foot off the accelerator earlier and earlier and still getting there. This is probably one reason for the fuel consumption figures. A tank is good for just over 900km. This is great as it is more fuel efficient that my Suzuki Alto.As I said in the original post I drive outer urban which has little stop start ( but some). However the last tank had a fair amount of driving in very urban areas (Preston Reservior Bundoora Greensborough etc (Melbourne). I'm hoping that as the engine frees up fuel consumption will improve.
GECKOzao - you have DA package, do you drive in economy ?

Mitch89
24-10-2013, 09:13 PM
My long term is 6.2L/100km based on 2900km from the day I picked it up. That includes a ~800km round trip when the car had 400kms on it where the car averaged 5.3L/100km.

I wouldn't be surprised if the economy improves slightly over the next ~6mths. I give it a rev every now and then, put that turbo to work, but nothing too stressful.

I've got a base 90TSI manual.

Mountainman
25-10-2013, 07:11 AM
I have the least economical of the low powered Mk7 Golfs, the 90 TSI manual. The long term average for the first 10,000km was 5.2L/100km and at 17,000km the second reading for the long term average is at 5.4L/100km. That is a direct reflection on the extra city work it has done recently.

I find consumption depends on where I drive it more than how I drive it. A 130km run from Toowoomba to Brisbane with an elevation drop of 700m gives me a regular average of 4.2 but the return trip is usually around 5. Cruising out in the west around an indicated 105 km/h gives in the high 4's. I have never managed to do any extended city driving to get a city average.

Alex31
25-10-2013, 07:47 AM
What are the figures for TDI drivers getting??

Transporter
25-10-2013, 07:52 AM
It should be better, and even the lead footed would achieve very good fuel economy. You can drive TDI reasonably fast and still get a good fuel economy unlike the TSI engines. Also in very heavy traffic, bumper to bumper will make a big difference between TSI and TDI. With the diesel returning much better fuel economy than the TSI. :)

I can get 8.5L/100 in Adelaide's crazy roadworks morning traffic in the 3.0L V6TDI Touareg, that weights 1000kg more than Golf. :grin:

Eaglehawk
25-10-2013, 09:34 AM
What are the figures for TDI drivers getting??

110TDI, long term currently 6.4L/100km. Short trips between home and work only. Yes, I try and do a long drive every now and then to burn off soot. 4000km on the odometer.

GeckoZAO
25-10-2013, 08:53 PM
i think if you dont have driver assistant package you won't be able to select driving modes. (not sure)

AWSM
26-10-2013, 10:46 AM
I wonder what is the average speed you guys are doing, because it can give a general idea of how much traffic/HWY you guys do as well.

I have the base model, 90TSi.
The long term average speed is about 30km/h
It is 7.4L/100Km based on 1534km

Mainly city drive, pretty heavy traffic.

GeckoZAO
26-10-2013, 02:33 PM
picked up my car yesterday, from south yarra to city, dealer changed driving mode to sports..so it was around 12L/100km
and went from city to box hill for dinner and return, fuel reduced to 8L/100km.
60km so far...lol

The_Hawk
26-10-2013, 04:21 PM
When and where you drive will always make a massive difference coupled with HOW you drive.

In my cars I tend to get higher average, mostly because of how I drive which isn't helped by the fact it's short local trips through suburbia... so plenty of opportunity for hard acceleration :P If I totally baby it I can literally halve my consumption on the same trip.

Anyone who does any sort of distance on the freeway will tend to get a more consistent (and lower) consumption figure since there is less chance of variation on that sort of trip. (Anyone doing their driving on roads at 80/90 will get the best consumptions since that's about the most efficient possible speed to drive).

Baz 55
26-10-2013, 06:19 PM
My average speed is 41km. As I said I drive mostly outer suburban. My run to the golf course is 1 traffic light and 6 roundabouts - probs would only come to a full stop once or twice. The drive is 15km each way. Others is more traffic lights and stop start.
Just filled up with 98 Ron - this time. Done 80 km and its sitting on 5.1l per 100km. BUT I do drive in economy mode, use coasting mode where possible.
I have a Drivers Assitance package which others may not have access too. This is a very fuel efficient mode. Normally I would be in 7th gear at 60km/h

GeckoZAO
26-10-2013, 10:44 PM
My average speed is 41km. As I said I drive mostly outer suburban. My run to the golf course is 1 traffic light and 6 roundabouts - probs would only come to a full stop once or twice. The drive is 15km each way. Others is more traffic lights and stop start.
Just filled up with 98 Ron - this time. Done 80 km and its sitting on 5.1l per 100km. BUT I do drive in economy mode, use coasting mode where possible.
I have a Drivers Assitance package which others may not have access too. This is a very fuel efficient mode. Normally I would be in 7th gear at 60km/h

ive seen quite a few people in the forum have the DA package. in terms of fuel efficiency, DA package have eco driving mode and thats about it. i havent done any test to compare the fuel consumption between different driving modes, especially interested in normal and eco, if any one has done it please post the results here!

Pod
28-10-2013, 03:05 PM
I wonder what is the average speed you guys are doing, because it can give a general idea of how much traffic/HWY you guys do as well.

I have the base model, 90TSi.
The long term average speed is about 30km/h
It is 7.4L/100Km based on 1534km

Mainly city drive, pretty heavy traffic.

Mines pretty much identical:
90TSI Comfortline
Since owning 7.5L/100km based from about 950km. Average speed is 30km/h
Driving is mainly short local trips.

Brew69
28-10-2013, 08:48 PM
1900kms in 90TSI Comfortline DSG. Long term 6.7/100, but it's being run in and i'm varying my driving style a fair bit.i did hear the dreaded waste gate rattle today in S mode :(.

VUU
29-10-2013, 08:09 AM
Highline 103 TSI
long term average after 6800 km, 5.7 l/100km
mostly city and freeway driving

Baz 55
29-10-2013, 05:31 PM
Waste gate rattle ? Please explain :-)

Eaglehawk
29-10-2013, 08:22 PM
Waste gate rattle ? Please explain :-)

Starts around here (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/mk7-golf-tsi-tdi-observations-questions-84967-20.html#post964871) and continues around here (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/mk7-golf-tsi-tdi-observations-questions-84967-21.html#post968949) and here (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/mk7-golf-tsi-tdi-observations-questions-84967-23.html#post972840).

GeckoZAO
29-10-2013, 08:33 PM
Highline 103 TSI
long term average after 6800 km, 5.7 l/100km
mostly city and freeway driving

average speed?

Baz 55
31-10-2013, 08:26 PM
90TSI with DSG and DA pack
Filled up with 98 RON this tank instead of 95. 2800km on Odometer
300km in, getting average of 5.15 L per 100 km.
So have reached the 1000km mark from a tank. This has been a mix of urban and outer urban.
Economy mode.

Eaglehawk
31-10-2013, 09:34 PM
Just refueled the TDI 110.
6.2L/100km, 43km/h average.

15 mins one way travel to and from work, Mon to Fri. All travel below 60km/h suburban streets.

b c
01-11-2013, 08:53 AM
TSI 103, 6.8L/100km, 34km/h average, mainly in Eco mode (otherwise Sport). Commute from outskirts of Melbourne to inner city. Regularly see 4.5-5L/100km instantaneous on the freeway. Doing a rural run this weekend, so will be interested in the difference.

VUU
02-11-2013, 06:26 PM
57 kph

and I got the long term average consumption incorrect, it is 5.5 l/100km

GeckoZAO
03-11-2013, 03:12 AM
TSI 103, 6.8L/100km, 34km/h average, mainly in Eco mode (otherwise Sport). Commute from outskirts of Melbourne to inner city. Regularly see 4.5-5L/100km instantaneous on the freeway. Doing a rural run this weekend, so will be interested in the difference.

thats good, i will be expecting a figure close to 6.8 after run-in perid.
im currently doing a bit hard on mine, only 200km so far!

GeckoZAO
03-11-2013, 03:13 AM
57 kph

and I got the long term average consumption incorrect, it is 5.5 l/100km

no wonder! average speed is fast!
mines only like 20kph-.- 9-10L/100km

exzibit
03-11-2013, 09:06 PM
5500km, mix of city driving (60%) and freeway (40%). 5.9L/100km.

Baz 55
10-12-2013, 10:02 PM
Just an update - now 4000km old and last tank averaging a bit under 5L per 100km - pretty happy.
That's economy mode outer urban driving.

Sootchucker
12-12-2013, 06:49 PM
Well on my GTD it's getting better and better. From my journey home from work last night (quite a good run), and this is with an ambient temperature of only 4°C - it is winter in the UK afterall :)

BTW, in new money that's 4.7 litres per 100 kms, and the car's currently got 2,500 miles (4,000 km) on it. Not too shabby for a car with 184ps ?

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/12/11335874235_60be87b98c_o-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/11335874235/)
IMG_1188 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/11335874235/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr

Kevin87
27-12-2013, 10:42 AM
Damn we have not got ours under 6 everyone getting such low numbers! Maybe out trips out too short in Canberra

goback
03-01-2014, 12:38 PM
I've only done 1000km. Average overall is about 5.6. We drove to Bathurst for a funeral last week and we managed 4.8 for the trip, even with going over the blue mountains, driving at the speed limit, though gentle with the accelerator while the car is being run in. So I'm stoked with the fuel economy.

GeckoZAO
05-01-2014, 01:08 AM
after 4k my consumption is about 6.5, 70% city and 30% freeway.
im sort of regretting if i shouldve got TDI instead. :(

Dzl_Dubba
05-01-2014, 06:00 PM
Can any GTI drivers chime in? Would like to know what they're getting as i'm tossing up between a TSI or TDI vRS when it comes out in a couple months.

LR Lorenz
05-01-2014, 07:47 PM
Currently doing about 800-900kms per full take using 98RON Shell V-Power in my 90tsi Comfortline.

pologti18t
05-01-2014, 08:46 PM
after 4k my consumption is about 6.5, 70% city and 30% freeway.
im sort of regretting if i shouldve got TDI instead. :(

In the old money that is a combined consumption of 43mpg.

AdamD
06-01-2014, 08:00 AM
Can any GTI drivers chime in? Would like to know what they're getting as i'm tossing up between a TSI or TDI vRS when it comes out in a couple months.

You can't base Skoda Octavia RS economy on the GTI's figures - the engine may be the same, but the Skoda will be carrying a fair bit more weight, will have a significantly different aerodynamic profile, etc. You'd be better off basing your decision on the published figures.

Dzl_Dubba
06-01-2014, 11:04 AM
You can't base Skoda Octavia RS economy on the GTI's figures - the engine may be the same, but the Skoda will be carrying a fair bit more weight, will have a significantly different aerodynamic profile, etc. You'd be better off basing your decision on the published figures.

I know that, i'm just trying to see what kind of fuel economy people are getting and if its anywhere near the claimed figures. Published figures are one thing, real world economy is another.

Diesel_vert
06-01-2014, 12:01 PM
The published fuel consumption figures are more useful for making comparisons against other vehicles.

Actual fuel consumption figures will depend entirely on the driver and the conditions the vehicle is driven in.

Dzl_Dubba
07-01-2014, 06:58 AM
The published fuel consumption figures are more useful for making comparisons against other vehicles.

Actual fuel consumption figures will depend entirely on the driver and the conditions the vehicle is driven in.

Funny enough, based on the NZ catalog the TSI vRS uses less then the GTI! lol. 6.4 vs 6.6, hence my original question on real world MK7 GTI fuel consumption. But back on topic.

Adam84
08-01-2014, 01:27 PM
I know that, i'm just trying to see what kind of fuel economy people are getting and if its anywhere near the claimed figures. Published figures are one thing, real world economy is another.

Hey mate,

I have done 1700km in the new GTI (DSG) and right now it's averaging 8.7 L/100km long term. The good news is that this is trending downwards thanks to a fair bit of 'Eco mode' usage. Trips in Eco mode are averaging about 6.5 L/100km (in mainly suburban driving and using auto stop/start).

At highway speeds it's also quite impressive, averaging around 5-5.5 L/100km @110km/h. Given that the tank appears to hold around 55 litres this would provide excellent range for long trips.

Diesel_vert
08-01-2014, 02:21 PM
Funny enough, based on the NZ catalog the TSI vRS uses less then the GTI! lol. 6.4 vs 6.6, hence my original question on real world MK7 GTI fuel consumption. But back on topic.

It is important to note which test method was used when comparing fuel consumption figures in different jurisdictions.

The figures quoted in the New Zealand brochures for both Skoda and Volkswagen are based on the European test cycle (the figures are identical to those quoted in the German brochures).

The figures in the Australian brochures (for both manufacturers) are based on the Australian test cycle, and therein lies the difference.


Just for the record:

EU test cycle (urban/extra urban/combined)
Mk3 Octavia RS DSG: 8.1/5.4/6.4
Mk7 Golf GTI DSG: 8.1/5.3/6.4

AU test cycle (urban/extra urban/combined)
Mk3 Octavia RS DSG: TBA
Mk7 Golf GTI DSG: 8.3/5.5/6.6


Although the Australian brochure for the Mk3 Octavia RS doesn't appear to be available yet, the previous model's brochure quotes figures based on the AU test cycle, so I expect the same this time round as well.

veew
09-01-2014, 05:51 PM
I am interested to see if anyone has tested out how much farther they are able to travel on a tank of fuel with the auto stop/start system on vs off for a whole tank at a time. Although there are fuel savings to be had, it has its quirks with regards to responsiveness in stop/start traffic (yes I have been following the other stop/start thread).

If anyone is also curious/happy to do this experiment while outlining their usual driving style/traffic, it would really help in determining if this system is as effective in real life.

Therefore those who are less reluctant to use the auto stop/start system can say I'm happy to forgo xxkm/tank or xxL/100km, especially if the difference is not that great.
I would do this experiment myself but I'm 4 months away from having my car delivered!

J Dawg
09-01-2014, 10:02 PM
GTI owner here, just past 1800kms.

I got 7.5l/100km from the 3rd tank - this is with some fairly energetic driving off the line whenever I can. I do use cruise control as early as I can - even at 60km/h, and brake early for the lights and coast to a stop when I can.

I should also mention - I have the DSG, but almost 95% of the time, use it in manual mode. I don't use the start-stop function.

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adnrw
10-01-2014, 09:42 AM
We have had our 90TSi Comfortline for about four months and have driven around 4,500kms (it's lovely!).

We hover around 8-9L/100km on a normal week: we drive ~15-20km every weekday in peak hour traffic at an average speed of ~20-30km/h.

We were away over the holidays doing mostly 10km+ highway driving with a bit of side-street driving too and ended up around 5.5L/100km, average speed of around 60-70km/h.

A few weeks ago I had to drive ~100km (almost entirely highway) each way to and from work for a few days and was getting bang on 5L/100km each trip with an average speed of 85-90km/h.

In general we get around 600-800kms from a full tank.

Diesel_vert
10-01-2014, 02:45 PM
I am interested to see if anyone has tested out how much farther they are able to travel on a tank of fuel with the auto stop/start system on vs off for a whole tank at a time. Although there are fuel savings to be had, it has its quirks with regards to responsiveness in stop/start traffic (yes I have been following the other stop/start thread).

If anyone is also curious/happy to do this experiment while outlining their usual driving style/traffic, it would really help in determining if this system is as effective in real life.

Therefore those who are less reluctant to use the auto stop/start system can say I'm happy to forgo xxkm/tank or xxL/100km, especially if the difference is not that great.
I would do this experiment myself but I'm 4 months away from having my car delivered!

It would obviously depend on the driving conditions, but in terms of raw figures, I couldn't say.


This is what The Motor Report wrote:


When approaching traffic lights, careful judgement was applied to the timing of the lights.

If a short stop was anticipated, we coasted; but if it looked like a long stop, arriving relatively quickly to utilise the benefits of the start/stop system seemed a logical strategy.

Volkswagen claims that the engine needs to be off for at least 15 seconds for this system to be of any efficiency benefit.

Source: 2012 Volkswagen 'Think Blue' Fuel Economy Challenge (http://www.themotorreport.com.au/54834/2012-volkswagen-think-blue-fuel-economy-challenge)


So if the journey includes frequent and long stationary periods, the more beneficial the system becomes. On the other hand, someone that drove exclusively on the highway would find the system of little benefit.

Jondalar
29-01-2014, 04:15 PM
We just got our 110 TDI last week, took it for a hwy run and were pleasantly surprised to see consumption down to 4.9L/100, this on a car with only 200km on the clock. My wife has been getting 5-5.2 for her run for work which is 35km about half of which is highway but even that is often stop start.
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Sammy125TDi
04-02-2014, 10:13 AM
3000km on my GTI with DSG. Spends most of its time in ECO mode with mostly city driving and the odd highway run. Have done a few spirited national park runs.

Long term. 8.9L/100km av speed 38km/h

kure69
04-02-2014, 05:40 PM
3200km on the clock on my 90tsi.

Recently did a few trips from Melbourne to Geelong Lorne. 4.7l/100km with aveg speed 80km. 4 people in the car, boot full gear and aircon on and about 38deg out side. With out the air con on it will drop even further to about 4.5 easy.

What can I say, every happy for petrol engine to be getting these results.

AdamD
05-02-2014, 08:22 AM
3000km on my GTI with DSG. Spends most of its time in ECO mode with mostly city driving and the odd highway run. Have done a few spirited national park runs.

Sammy, did you sell (part out?) your Mk6? Decided to go DSG this time?

Baz 55
05-02-2014, 07:24 PM
Just a follow up on the original post.
Fuel consumption after 4000km hasn't changed much.
Comfortline 90 TSI with DSG in Economy mode (just about always) coasting a lot where practical.
Mostly outer urban driving. 1 person on board with beloved golf clubs :-)
Long term average 5.2l per 100km Some tanks were 5l per 100km

scobb
19-02-2014, 03:55 PM
Finally, 2 months after I took delivery of my 103kW TSI Highline, it was time for some fuel. The car has had a very quiet start to its life, covering just 614KMs in those 2 months, all of which were in reasonably heavy urban traffic. Fuel economy was 8.4L per 100KM.

Curiously, I thought the tank capacity was 50L? I still had 35KM range showing at the point of refuelling and yet, without really brimming it, I got 51.84L of fuel into it!

Baz 55
19-02-2014, 07:00 PM
It's a 55 litre tank I think

Idle
19-02-2014, 07:22 PM
Well, the book says 50lt, and I'm not getting as far on a fill as I did with the 55lt Mk6.

Mountainman
20-02-2014, 10:43 AM
It's a 55 litre tank I think
Book says approx 50L of which approx 5L is reserve. I have found it easy to fill with 50L when the gauge has just entered the red and there is still between 50km to 80km showing on the range of the MFD.

scobb
20-02-2014, 04:41 PM
The reason I'm curious about this is to understand just how low I had run the car. Was it running on fumes or maybe it still had 5L in it? There must be a definitive answer and I'm guessing that it's not the 50L referred to in the handbook.


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Mountainman
20-02-2014, 10:34 PM
I have read somewhere on one of the forums of someone claiming they had put over 56L in theirs and it was still running at the time.

Brendan_A
23-03-2014, 05:58 AM
Took the GTI for a drive through the mountains yesterday and did some 480kms. Got down to 5.8L/100km then ended up at 6.5L/100km after we had fun in the mountains. Not bad for having 1700ks on it.

Lemonskin
22-04-2014, 12:28 PM
This morning I drove into work on a very good run, Cronulla to Alexandria, here are my stats

Distance: 23km
Average speed: 46km/h
Driving Mode: Eco
Fuel consumption 7.2L/100km

In normal, non-school holidays times and in normal driving mode, my figures are markedly higher. The 23km drive takes around 45 minutes, average speed around 29km/h and I’ll get high 9’s for my economy.

Interested to know how others fare. I’d love to know what someone in a TDI gets on a similar drive.

godzilla_110TDI
22-04-2014, 02:42 PM
^^ Crap. Looking at mine now. Average speed since refuel 34, k's since refuel 669, average consumption since refuel 6.1

godzilla_110TDI
22-04-2014, 02:44 PM
Sorry, I mean mine is Crap

Eaglehawk
22-04-2014, 08:00 PM
6.3L/100 for me. 110TDI. Similar average speed. 11km to work though, so hardly warmed up by the time I get to work.

GeckoZAO
22-04-2014, 10:50 PM
ehhhh GTI got stunning low consumptions...
avg 30km/h 7.0-7.2L/100km on my 103TSI

Lemonskin
23-04-2014, 08:46 AM
Did the same drive in today on normal mode and was impressed and also bewildered at the consumption.

Distance: 23km
Average speed: 45km/h
Driving Mode: Normal
Fuel consumption 7.4L/100km

That's only 0.2L/100km less than the same drive yesterday on Eco mode! So no stop/start, no coasting etc, and I was not being light on the throttle. Strange that there is so little difference between the modes?


6.3L/100 for me. 110TDI. Similar average speed. 11km to work though, so hardly warmed up by the time I get to work.

Hmm, any idea of consumption on a 20+km drive in traffic?

Dutch77
23-04-2014, 08:52 AM
Did the same drive in today on normal mode and was impressed and also bewildered at the consumption.

Distance: 23km


Maybe the message there is just enjoy the thing. ;-)

But I'd also suggest that a longer trip using both modes would be warranted to make a more accurate comparison.

wasabiz
23-04-2014, 08:56 AM
9001

GTI PP DSG

I was on my best behavior all the way from home to work in the morning with probably 70%hwy

Dutch77
23-04-2014, 09:01 AM
^ I didn't even know that info was available on the main screen on the Mk7. :)

I remember getting into the high 7s on a part city/part country cruise in my Mk6 that included probably 1/3 of mid-range spirited driving (over about 150km for the trip). I'll be interested to see what I can do when the Mk7 arrives.

armthehomeless
23-04-2014, 09:05 AM
First tank of the MkVII R, a fair chunk of it was highway mostly in comfort and normal modes:

Distance: 563km
Avg speed: 49km/h
Time: 11:25h
Consumption: 8.7 l/100km

I was also babying it a bit for the first couple of hundred k's.

Suffice to say the next tank won't be this economical :)

Mountainman
23-04-2014, 02:21 PM
^ I didn't even know that info was available on the main screen on the Mk7. :)
You know it also displays Since refuelling and Long Term. And that car starts moving towards the fuel bowser once you go below about quarter full. It's fun trying to get it as close to the bowser as possible.

btw Trip to work is morning:
Distance: 121km
Average speed: 73km/h
Consumption: 4.1L/100km

AWSM
25-04-2014, 12:57 AM
I notice the fuel gauge of my 90TSI is a little off. I would get about 4xx km when it reaches half way on my fuel gauge. However, I only manage to get about 250 or so km before the warning light come on saying I have 50km worth of fuel left..... If anything wouldn't it make more sense that I would get more km out of the second half because the car is lighter?

Anyone else experiencing the same thing?

Mountainman
25-04-2014, 08:26 AM
I notice the fuel gauge of my 90TSI is a little off. I would get about 4xx km when it reaches half way on my fuel gauge. However, I only manage to get about 250 or so km before the warning light come on saying I have 50km worth of fuel left..... If anything wouldn't it make more sense that I would get more km out of the second half because the car is lighter?

Anyone else experiencing the same thing?
My Golf takes 33L when indicating half full. I have usually done around 650km at that stage. The low fuel warning light comes on as it reaches the red zone only another 300km later, where it takes around 48L. I have twice put in 50L when the gauge has been halfway through the red but with 60-89km still showing on the range. (And the picture of the car on the touchscreen has still not reached the pump bowser) The gauge does not move off the full mark until I have done around 250km. Once it didn't move until I had done 290km.

Jimi
25-04-2014, 08:41 AM
You can blame human psychology for having it work this way. Read this

Http://autos.aol.com/article/gas-gauge/

tomcat225
22-05-2014, 11:50 AM
Ive had two fill ups since getting my Highline and am getting about 850k's with mostly city driving.
Really interested to get on the highway and see what it can do :)

Would require some very light footed driving to achieve 1000k's im guessing

brad
22-05-2014, 01:46 PM
Ive had two fill ups since getting my Highline and am getting about 850k's with mostly city driving.
Really interested to get on the highway and see what it can do :)

Would require some very light footed driving to achieve 1000k's im guessing

you'd be better off using these early days to run the engine in properly rather than trying to achieve good consumption figures. They'll come later when your engine is sealed up & running at optimum efficiency.

tomcat225
22-05-2014, 02:50 PM
you'd be better off using these early days to run the engine in properly rather than trying to achieve good consumption

Good point although not that I've really been babying the car, more so just observing the consumption... How many ks is considered run in out of curiosity ?


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brad
22-05-2014, 03:17 PM
Probably 80% of the process is in the first 1000-2000km. You'll notice it will spin better & better as you head towards 5000km and you'll be pretty well done by then although I think my EA888 kept improving right through to 15,000km.

Velocity_Racing
23-05-2014, 11:12 AM
We’ve been getting around 920km per tank in our TDI Highline… The long term average shows as about 5.7L/100… That’s doing around 80km per day and a 50/50 mix of city and freeway driving.

Jimi
23-05-2014, 11:29 AM
I've only got 550km on the clock of my GTI (manual) but I was pleasantly surprised that I am getting 8l/100kms without even trying when I flicked to the usage screen last night. In fact I've probably been driving in more stop-start traffic than normal, and in a more spirited manner than usual when not in traffic as I try to run the car in properly.

I've come from a Camry with the same displacement, far less performance, less weight and which was run-in that did closer to 10l/100km.

Lemonskin
23-05-2014, 12:56 PM
Still averaging 8.5L/100km during the week and this is a 46km round trip each day in peak hour, with a fairly liberal usage of the right foot when circumstances warrant. Pretty happy with that.

Kesh
26-05-2014, 09:39 PM
I've gotten 6.0l/100 since my last refuel, but I've been getting around 5.5-5.8 through the "since start" menu quite frequently, so maybe next tank I'll expect the 6.0 to go down.

Dutch77
01-06-2014, 08:13 PM
Stats from today's SA VWW cruise which consisted of a mix of city, country and 'spirited' driving in a very low mileage GTI:

166km
3:09h
53km/h average
8.1l/100km

Kesh
02-06-2014, 05:58 PM
I'm getting around 6l/100 since refuel. Bumped up my tyre pressures to 40psi, I like it since I can feel the road a bit better through the wheel! Anyone know what the safest max is?

Brendan_A
02-06-2014, 06:08 PM
I'm getting around 6l/100 since refuel. Bumped up my tyre pressures to 40psi, I like it since I can feel the road a bit better through the wheel! Anyone know what the safest max is?

What car are you talking about for your consumption??

Max tyre pressure will be on the sidewall. Usually 51psi.

Eaglehawk
02-06-2014, 06:09 PM
For the sake of completeness, and not having to search for what you bought, perhaps specify which model Golf you have? :)

Kesh
02-06-2014, 06:10 PM
What car are you talking about for your consumption??

Max tyre pressure will be on the sidewall. Usually 51psi.

Sorry, 90tsi dsg! I've seen the maximum pressure, but I mean for daily driving, I guess that figure is the absolute max the tyre can take?

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MIRSAD
02-06-2014, 06:21 PM
Stats from today's SA VWW cruise which consisted of a mix of city, country and 'spirited' driving in a very low mileage GTI:

166km
3:09h
53km/h average
8.1l/100km

Hi Dutch77,

Is it with "stop start" on or you are switching it of?

Dutch77
02-06-2014, 07:09 PM
Hi Dutch77,

Is it with "stop start" on or you are switching it of?

I usually have it on but don't activate it - I have the same function on our CX5 GT and learnt quickly to modulate the pedal for when I wanted to use it and when I didn't. It operates the same in that it requires it to be manually switched off each journey, never bothered searching whether there were easy ways to switch it permanently off per the VW.

MIRSAD
02-06-2014, 08:01 PM
I usually have it on but don't activate it - I have the same function on our CX5 GT and learnt quickly to modulate the pedal for when I wanted to use it and when I didn't. It operates the same in that it requires it to be manually switched off each journey, never bothered searching whether there were easy ways to switch it permanently off per the VW.

Thank You Dutch77,
I am switching off my "stop & start" manually - every time.

After 2,7K my long term consumption is 10+ (To and from work drive = 80% is true stop and go).
With MK6 GTI my long term consumption was 9.1L/100km - same route.
Today (it is Public Holiday in WA) I achieved 8.2 (100+Km, Freeway, City - generally not so busy roads)

Brendan_A
02-06-2014, 08:21 PM
Refueled the GTI tonight. 7.7L/100km, 631km to fuel light. 280km was highway driving rest was town driving.

Dutch77
02-06-2014, 08:43 PM
Thank You Dutch77,
I am switching off my "stop & start" manually - every time.


IIRC that can be fixed on VCDS, failing that there was a. Kufatec dongle that achieved the result as well.

I have deliberately activated it in long waits in peak hour but otherwise not.

brad
03-06-2014, 05:37 PM
I'm getting around 6l/100 since refuel. Bumped up my tyre pressures to 40psi, I like it since I can feel the road a bit better through the wheel! Anyone know what the safest max is?

It will be on the sidewall of the tyre.

Beyond 40 you are getting into the realm of diminishing returns

Kesh
03-06-2014, 05:53 PM
It will be on the sidewall of the tyre.

Beyond 40 you are getting into the realm of diminishing returns

Yeah I've decided it's not worth it, dropped down to 34, much more comfort, really a negligible loss of economy..

brad
03-06-2014, 06:15 PM
Yeah I've decided it's not worth it, dropped down to 34, much more comfort, really a negligible loss of economy..

Try 38F/36R. That will be a happy compromise.

Kesh
03-06-2014, 06:16 PM
Try 38F/36R. That will be a happy compromise.

Cheers I'll give it a whirl tomorrow and let you know how it goes

Mountainman
03-06-2014, 10:39 PM
Just drove 130km back from work in Toowoomba to the centre of Brisbane. The usual 4.2L/100km. Makes me wonder what the diesel would do?

GTR27
05-06-2014, 10:31 AM
I doubt the 2L diesel would be any better......on a flat, the engine would be using barely any power/torque, so the smaller the engine, the better the economy should be (even taking into account more energy stored per L in diesel). If it was a 1.6L diesel (which we dont sell in OZ IIRC in the golfs) then you might be able to better it.

Brendan_A
05-06-2014, 12:23 PM
Just drove 130km back from work in Toowoomba to the centre of Brisbane. The usual 4.2L/100km. Makes me wonder what the diesel would do?

Is that figure from when you roll down the range and through Withcott? ;)

Mountainman
05-06-2014, 01:43 PM
From leaving Ground Up coffee in Searles Walk between Ruthven and Duggan Streets (I don't work there - just enjoy the best flat whites ever made). At Withcott it is usually showing around 2.7L/100km average and that gradually climbs to around 4 by the Plainlands pub. The 4.2 indicated average is usually about 4.4 true. The reverse trip is nearly always 5 indicated. That usual crawl up the range at 40 in 3rd or on one occasion at about 10 in 1st is doing my head in. I sometimes go around by the Blanchview Rd - more fun too.

Brendan_A
05-06-2014, 02:24 PM
The up section is crap! The run down is not bad now. Very impressive figures anyway.

Kesh
11-06-2014, 09:26 PM
Figured this doesn't require a new thread. In your experience, at what speed do you get the best fuel economy? Probably best to list engine and transmission.

anduril
11-06-2014, 10:03 PM
1,500kms into mine and it's 9.9l/100km on city driving. Struggles to even get close to 500km before the fuel light comes on. Drives in Comfort or Normal mode. Wonder what others are getting as the car gets run-in further..

brad
12-06-2014, 10:44 AM
Figured this doesn't require a new thread. In your experience, at what speed do you get the best fuel economy? Probably best to list engine and transmission.
top gear, around 2000rpm. Probably 80-90kmh. It desn't sound very fast but surprisingly that's about the speed most city motorways flow at.


1,500kms into mine and it's 9.9l/100km on city driving. Struggles to even get close to 500km before the fuel light comes on. Drives in Comfort or Normal mode. Wonder what others are getting as the car gets run-in further..

You shouldn't be trying for economy at such low mileage. The engine will still be bedding-in right through to 15,000km. You'll be about 90% there at 5,000km

Mountainman
12-06-2014, 10:55 AM
Figured this doesn't require a new thread. In your experience, at what speed do you get the best fuel economy? Probably best to list engine and transmission.
On my 90 TSI manual I reckon it is around 70km/h in 6th at around 1500rpm, just after it's reached peak torque. It would bring in an average well below 4L/100km (even 3.5 maybe) but where would you have the patience to try it? It would certainly piss off most other road users.

brad
12-06-2014, 11:07 AM
On my 90 TSI manual I reckon it is around 70km/h in 6th at around 1500rpm, just after it's reached peak torque. It would bring in an average well below 4L/100km (even 3.5 maybe) but where would you have the patience to try it? It would certainly piss off most other road users.
Sounds like a perfectly normal speed for a Sydney urban Motorway.

Somedays I dream of being able to motor along doing a heady 70kph.

Kesh
12-06-2014, 11:41 AM
Yeah I seem to be getting the best around 70km/h as well in 7th around 1500RPM. The road surface and gradient obviously changes it but I do seem to hover around 3.6-4.2. My car's done around 2500KM.

brad
12-06-2014, 12:22 PM
Yeah I seem to be getting the best around 70km/h as well in 7th around 1500RPM. The road surface and gradient obviously changes it but I do seem to hover around 3.6-4.2. My car's done around 2500KM.

The engine is still bedding in. You should be keeping it spinning above 2000rpm. Use the manual feature. What you spend on fuel now you'll save later.

Kesh
12-06-2014, 12:30 PM
The engine is still bedding in. You should be keeping it spinning above 2000rpm. Use the manual feature. What you spend on fuel now you'll save later.

Oh really? I've never heard of that. I've absolutely bashed my engine if I'm honest. Took it to some mountain roads. But ill leave it in 5th or somethkng

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flagger
01-07-2014, 03:35 PM
So I decided to start tracking my fuel usage accurately via fuelly: Black Mk7 Golf (Volkswagen Golf) | Fuelly (http://www.fuelly.com/car/volkswagen/golf/2013/flagger/290569). Currently only 3 fill ups and ~2000km recorded, but my average is 5.7L/100km which is bang on with the rated mixed mode figure. I actually do a 50/50 mix of driving too. The current long term average is according the car computer is 5.3L/100km and the car is at ~9000km now.

singlespeed
03-07-2014, 11:06 PM
Here's my TDI figures after 1 year:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/2eva9yve-1.jpg

adhock
09-07-2014, 10:29 PM
Perth peak-hour/shoulder driving Mitchell Freeway, in a diesel wagon, my average when I try to watch it is about 6 l/100km. There's a hill at the end/start of the trip in East Perth that stuffs the figures every time. By the refill-at-pump figures (still only 3200 km on the car) it's 6 to 6.5/100km. It seems best when set to Eco mode and Coast whenever possible - accelerate modestly to a speed then coast until I need to catch up again. Pisses off the tailgaters tho. Better than the previous petrol Mk6 118TSI tho - it was about 7 to 7.5, no difference between 1st and 2nd engines (lemon alert).

flagger
10-07-2014, 08:52 AM
Pisses off the tailgaters tho.

It's great isn't it? :D:bit-clap::devilish:

Dutch77
22-07-2014, 02:21 PM
Meant to post this up last week, drove over to Melbourne for some interviews and took the following measurements on the way back:

Mileage: 731km
Economy: 7.9l/100km

Pretty happy with that given the car was still on the tail end of its run in phase so was running it in lower gears to vary the revs.

Jazrod
22-07-2014, 09:56 PM
103TSI Highline - 32,000km

Long-term: 7.1l/100km

When I was going long distance (112km round trip) for work I never averaged more than 5.2l/100km on the trip - was getting minimum 900km from a tank.

Now I travel <5km to work and I am averaging about 9-10l/100km.

Recently went on a 1900km road-trip with some mates and fully loaded with some very enthusiastic driving on some nice twisty roads, I averaged 7.4l/100km. Mates MkV R32, on the same trip, averaged 8.5l/100km.

Can't complain.

siu_loong_bao
25-07-2014, 07:52 AM
2014 Golf R, less than 2,000kms on clock...avg 10.4L/100kms....this is roughly the same as my MY11 WRX 2.5L

The 1st few hundred kms, I was avg around 14L/100kms on the R...

I don't think that I will ever drive the R in economical mode...so I guess around 10L/100kms will have to do me...

adhock
25-07-2014, 11:31 PM
Just for interest's sake. I was getting round 6 l/100 km from our TDI wagon, sometimes down to 5 l/100km if I tried hard, before it broke a week back (see other thread). This at less than 4500 km. The replacement hire Passat, a 118TSI sedan 2013 build, is returning round 7 to 9 l/100 km. Quite a bit thirstier for the same driving conditions. And the Golf's a nicer drive, tho noticeably slightly narrower seat-wise.

Kesh
26-07-2014, 12:38 PM
Done about 5500k's, really hasn't improved that dramatically from the start, although it is still being broken in, I've driven it very hard. Averaging about 5.9 I'd say.

armthehomeless
28-07-2014, 10:27 AM
2014 Golf R, less than 2,000kms on clock...avg 10.4L/100kms....this is roughly the same as my MY11 WRX 2.5L

The 1st few hundred kms, I was avg around 14L/100kms on the R...

I don't think that I will ever drive the R in economical mode...so I guess around 10L/100kms will have to do me...

Did a test and was able to get 7.1L/100km in Eco mode on the highway in my Golf R mk 7 :) (got bored though)

Jimi
28-07-2014, 11:15 AM
Car: Mk7 GTI (manual)
Kms: 2,000

Most of my driving has averaged around 8.5-9L/100km as I have never tried to drive economically during run-in and usually can't resist giving it a bit of a boot whenever it looks safe.

I made an effort to drive 'normally' and had a reasonably good run home from soccer (still plenty of lights though): 6.7L/100kms in normal mode, not that it makes much of a difference with a manual. Very happy with that, particularly as I've only put 2,000kms on it! It should be into the 5s once I add in some highway driving.

ajay1940
01-08-2014, 09:44 AM
Last year, We did Melbourne to Sunshine coast return in a Mondeo diesel, averaged 6.3L/100K, which I thought was pretty good.
Just completed the same trip in our new Highline TSI, similarly loaded up, and got 5.6L/100K. I drove the car pretty hard, set the cruise to 5Km over the limit with frequent overtake bursts up to 130.
Needless to say, I won't be buying another diesel.

brad
01-08-2014, 11:29 AM
Last year, We did Melbourne to Sunshine coast return in a Mondeo diesel, averaged 6.3L/100K, which I thought was pretty good.
Just completed the same trip in our new Highline TSI, similarly loaded up, and got 5.6L/100K. I drove the car pretty hard, set the cruise to 5Km over the limit with frequent overtake bursts up to 130.
Needless to say, I won't be buying another diesel.
I don't quite get what you are saying - are you so impressed that you intend to keep the highline forever or are you saying that you expected the fuel consumption to be much lower than 5.6L/100km?

If it's a new car then the consumption will continue to improve right through until 40,000-60,000km.

KWICKS
01-08-2014, 12:12 PM
Petrol efficiency greater than diesel efficiency was the point.

adhock
01-08-2014, 09:05 PM
Petrol efficiency greater than diesel efficiency was the point.
You might want to rethink that view in the light of lighter Golf vs heavier bigger Mondeo. I was getting down round 5l/100km in peak hour congested freeway driving in Perth before the electrics died, and expecting distinctly less than 5l/100km on a long run like yours. That's a diesel Highline wagon.

ajay1940
02-08-2014, 11:40 AM
Yes, the point I was making (possibly obscurely), was that the new breed of petrol engines return fuel consumption figures that just about match diesels. Petrol vehicles are also cheaper to buy and service, and to fill up, even using 95 RON. There is also the increasing emphasis on cleaning up the exhaust gases. Diesel Particulate Filters already cause problems, especially for cars doing short trips, and the new Euro 6 requirements may render the diesel engine unviable, in passenger cars.

Diesel_vert
06-08-2014, 10:49 AM
The diesel engine will always be more efficient than a comparable petrol engine.

As for the amount of fuel actually consumed for a given journey, that will depend on many external factors. In isolation, it is certainly possible for a diesel engined car to consume more fuel than a petrol engined car.

Comparing a Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi with a Volkswagen Golf 1.4 TSI would almost certainly produce fuel consumption results which favour the Golf. Although the diesel engine is more efficient, it is the bigger engine here (2.0 vs 1.4) as well as carrying more mass, so it is inevitable that it will consume more fuel.

Looking at it another way, the displacement of a petrol engine needs to be reduced by 30% in order to better the fuel consumption a diesel engine, such is the efficiency of the diesel combustion process (or the inefficiency of the petrol combustion process)..

It would be fairer to compare the Mk7 Golf 1.4 TSI with a Mk7 Golf 1.6 TDI, but as that particular model is not sold here, we only have the Mk7 Golf 2.0 TDI to compare it with.

ajay1940
06-08-2014, 11:28 AM
You make some good points and I have to admit, there's a lot to like about diesel motors, the surge of torque is most welcome when overtaking. But for me, the disadvantages are too many to ignore.

Diesel_vert
06-08-2014, 12:37 PM
Fuel efficiency might be interesting to discuss from a conceptual or theoretical viewpoint, but it's fuel consumption and the price of fuel that really matters on the hip pocket.

As efficient as the Mk7 Golf 2.0 TDI may be with its fuel, it is possible to purchase a Mk7 Golf 1.4 TSI for a significantly lower price, due to the way VGA have positioned the Golf model range.

Given the small fuel consumption difference and large price difference between the available petrol and diesel models in our market, it is difficult to justify purchasing the 2.0 TDI based on fuel consumption alone.

It would appear that VGA are treating the 2.0 TDI as some sort of "halo" consumer model in our market, given the price, trim level and the lack of availability of the 1.6 TDI, where choosing the diesel acts as a marker of individuality or a preference for its driving characteristics, rather than for any practical TCO (total cost of ownership) reasons.

I recall reading that sales of TDI models in the previous Golf ranges were not as high as management would have liked (or something to that effect), so this change in market positioning may be a reflection of that, along with a higher focus on the TSI engines this time around.

Kesh
06-08-2014, 12:59 PM
I have a rather interesting question for you guys with regards to filling up.

So petrol in my area tends to go from 1.58 down to 1.40, gradually every two weeks, then straight back up to 158 again. Should I fill up a full tank when it's 140, or should I fill up to maybe half a tank every now and then. I ask this because if I fill up when petrol's cheap, I will be lugging around a full tank of petrol, whereas if I do more frequent fills (I live close to a pump), I'd be carrying less weight, but paying more for fuel. What's the better option?

Diesel_vert
06-08-2014, 01:57 PM
The density of premium unleaded petrol (95 RON) is approximately 0.75 kg/L, so the difference in mass between a full tank and half a tank on a Mk7 Golf is 19 kg.

Assume a full tank is filled at $1.40/l, while half a tank is filled at $1.49/L (taken as the average of $1.40/L and $1.58/L). That is a price increase of 6.4%.

Therefore, fuel consumption must decrease by 6.4% in order to break even. Whether that will occur from carrying 19 kg less mass, I leave up to you to find out.

Kesh
06-08-2014, 02:33 PM
The density of premium unleaded petrol (95 RON) is approximately 0.75 kg/L, so the difference in mass between a full tank and half a tank on a Mk7 Golf is 19 kg.

Assume a full tank is filled at $1.40/l, while half a tank is filled at $1.49/L (taken as the average of $1.40/L and $1.58/L). That is a price increase of 6.4%.

Therefore, fuel consumption must decrease by 6.4% in order to break even. Whether that will occur from carrying 19 kg less mass, I leave up to you to find out.

Yeah this looks right, vw claim that a passenger can increase fuel consumption by 0.2l/100 so this would in all probability be almost negligible.

adhock
06-08-2014, 04:31 PM
...it is difficult to justify purchasing the 2.0 TDI based on fuel consumption alone.

There's a compelling second reason for a former Mk6 petrol owner: it gets you away from the 7 speed DSg and the petrol motor. Plus diesel is now cheaper than 98RON round Perth, and I'm looking a payoff round 80 000 km roughly for the price difference. Just had to fill the hire Passat, and it was $90 for petrol (95RON) and 750km, vs about $70 for diesel and 750km. Bigger tank and engine granted, but it surprised me nonetheless. $15 to $20 per tank is not insignificant.

lambertia
06-08-2014, 06:08 PM
Perth peak-hour/shoulder driving Mitchell Freeway, in a diesel wagon, my average when I try to watch it is about 6 l/100km. There's a hill at the end/start of the trip in East Perth that stuffs the figures every time. By the refill-at-pump figures (still only 3200 km on the car) it's 6 to 6.5/100km. It seems best when set to Eco mode and Coast whenever possible - accelerate modestly to a speed then coast until I need to catch up again. Pisses off the tailgaters tho. Better than the previous petrol Mk6 118TSI tho - it was about 7 to 7.5, no difference between 1st and 2nd engines (lemon alert).
I've tried the coasting and don't really understand the benefit. Maybe it because I use the ACC a lot. Almost all the time. Most of the time when I'm coasting without the ACC I'm relying on the engine to slow the car. This uses no fuel. If I coasted the engine is still using fuel at idle speed.

I guess it's not much use to me because of the way I drive.

Maybe I just don't understand it properly.

Dux
07-08-2014, 10:28 AM
After a weekend down at the ski slopes at Perisher Valley from Sydney, my long-term average went down from 6.9L to 6.2L :)

Baz 55
09-08-2014, 10:42 PM
I started the thread about a year ago and I can now report that after 12000 k and my first service that fuel economy has settled to 5.4 l per 100 km. Mainly outer urban driving, some city. Mainly in economy mode. 90 tsi comfortline.
Just had the clutches replaced too !

adhock
16-08-2014, 10:42 PM
Just filled up. 6.1 l/100km, at 5000 km, urban driving mostly peak hour freeway, diesel wagon. Can't complain.

Moonee
03-11-2014, 10:05 PM
I realise people don't buy GTI's for fuel economy but .......

I'm going from a Mk5 Comfortline (petrol 2.0L) to a Mk7 GTI (turbo petrol 2.0L).

Now we know the attractions of turbos is more power, more fuel economy ... but of course not at the same time :P

So my question is ..... if I drive my new GTI like an old fart (which I am :P ) could I approach or even better the fuel economy of my old car?

kamold
03-11-2014, 10:20 PM
I used to have a 2.0T Quattro A3 and I averaged about 8L/100 mainly Sydney peak hour driving, with a stage 1 ecu upgrade. My wife's 2.0 FSI tiptronic mkv Golf Comfortline struggles to get under double figures...
So moral of the story is throttle control had a huge impact on consumption figures

themarvel2004
03-11-2014, 10:39 PM
I manage a displayed 9.5L/100km around town through Adelaide's rather subdued peak hour.
Drops into the low 8s when cruising more freely.

Hoping a tune up can make those numbers better (unless I hoof it!!)

Ramee
03-11-2014, 10:42 PM
I realise people don't buy GTI's for fuel economy but .......

I'm going from a Mk5 Comfortline (petrol 2.0L) to a Mk7 GTI (turbo petrol 2.0L).

Now we know the attractions of turbos is more power, more fuel economy ... but of course not at the same time :P

So my question is ..... if I drive my new GTI like an old fart (which I am :P ) could I approach or even better the fuel economy of my old car?

I am sure you can. It is there in manufacture data too,

for Mk5 Comfortline Triptronic - combined fuel economy 8.5L/100km (1328)
for MK7 DSG GTI - combined fuel economy 6.6L/100km

New engines are more efficient, less friction in moving parts and they run somewhat lean on freeway cruising situations (these turbo engines are build rugged). Also New GTI is lighter and more aerodynamically efficient and handles much better (so you don't have to brake each and every bend/corner you find on the road). Also DSG gearbox is more efficient than old triptronic system too. :)

brad
04-11-2014, 06:51 AM
So my question is ..... if I drive my new GTI like an old fart (which I am :P ) could I approach or even better the fuel economy of my old car?

you'll get better economy - esp if you use 98ron.

My old Mk3.5 Cabrio 2.0 5 speed used to average 8.5L/100km.

I have a 1.8tsi 6 speed 1st gen EA888 with a few mods & a tune and I average 6.6L/100km. VW Turbos are the best of both worlds.

Mountainman
04-11-2014, 07:45 AM
You don't always find that what the manufacturer claims is the result you get in the real world too. My brother runs a 2003 Forester manual 2.5 that Subaru claimed about 9.5L/100km combined and my other car is a turbo Forester XT manual that Subaru claimed 11.4l/100km. That's a big difference yet we get almost identical consumption figures on the road, even when driving in convoy and swapping cars. And overall we both average around 9.3L/100km.

Dutch77
04-11-2014, 07:48 AM
Agree with what others have said, sure the usage will spike if you're going hard at it on the twisties, but in general cruising it's a pretty economical beast.

Since my commute changed to a 20km run one way, I'm getting around 6.9-7.3l/100km in the mornings (emptier roads, overall downhill run) and around 7.8-8.8l/100km in the evenings (more stop-start traffic).

I happened to click over to my all time average over 4,500km which is sitting on 8.7l/100km, but that was skewed by my Adelaide travels - I now expect it to settle into the lower 8s.

My Mk6 probably used a little more but not surprisingly was fairly comparable. I remember I used to do an 'economy' run from my folks place at night over 6-7km and try to get to the mid 5s - needed some friendly light changes for that. :)

1NSANE
04-11-2014, 12:54 PM
I had an 09 Skoda RS manual that was averaging very low 8's high 7's l/100km. My Mk7R is struggling to get under 9 with the same driving conditions. Disappointing considering VW are claiming a lower consumption for the R.

Moonee
06-11-2014, 05:16 PM
Thanks guys. I look forward to seeing if I can achieve some good figures with our new baby :)

petercr
13-11-2014, 04:19 PM
Having gotten about 3/4 of the way through my first tank of 98 RON, I'm averaging 7.8lit/100k. Based on this I should be getting around 700k's per tank. Only been city driving so far with one trip out to Mt Samson and back.

Kesh
14-11-2014, 06:20 AM
The 90tsi is averaging about 5.6 now which is great. Like others have said, economy greatly depends on where you live. On the same 25km route, I can vary between 4.8 (on a petrol :O) and 5.7 just from a few lights and changes in traffic.

indirokk
14-11-2014, 07:30 AM
I live 10km from work but have about 16 sets of traffic lights on the way >.< . My 90tsi gets about 6.3 on an average run, 7.5 on a bad run, and as low as 4.9 on an awesome run, which means stopping at 5 sets of lights or less! Weekend driving sees me average 5.3-5.6, so all in all, very happy with my car :) I'm getting about 850km per tank, which is great for me, though a couple trips to the airport saw my range jump up to the high 900s. It's amazing to think what the car could be capable of if I had a longer drive to work!

Mountainman
14-11-2014, 08:16 AM
I've now have passed 56,000km in less than 17 months in my 90 TSI and I seem to be getting 5.3L/100km long term average almost every time. When I calculate it though that ends up being a real 5.5L/100km - so much for accurate gauges. I do a lot of highway km's where the indicated average is nearly always in the mid to high 4's. It's the low 7's I get around the city that bring the long term average up.

The same driving in our Forester XT gives a real long term average of 9.3L/100km so, along with all the other positives of the Golf, you can easily guess which car gets the most use.

brad
14-11-2014, 08:33 AM
I seem to be getting 5.3L/100km long term average almost every time. When I calculate it though that ends up being a real 5.5L/100km - so much for accurate gauges. I do a lot of highway km's where the indicated average is nearly always in the mid to high 4's. .

Tweak it so it's accurate! Worked for me.

Mpg gauge correction and adjustment - mk5, mk6 VW | VW TDI forum, Audi, Porsche, and Chevy Cruze diesel forum (http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/mpg-gauge-correction-and-adjustment-mk5-mk6-vw/)

GTI PP carbon
11-03-2015, 04:50 PM
We have recently replaced our Mk6 GTI DSG with a new MY 15 GTI performance, DSG.
I am wanting to know if any other owners are experiencing a high fuel consumption with their GTI.

I know these are performance vehicles and you don't buy them to get great fuel consumption however I am getting nowhere near what we used to get with the Mk6.

The car has done about 2000ks and the last 2 fills have returned 11.6 and 11.75 L/100, all city driving. No thrashing, just normal city acceleration.

We did a highway gentle run-in when we picked up the car of around 650ks and refilled with a return of 7.7L/100.

The Mk6 returned around 8-9 L/100 consistently for all city driving.


Are these figures pretty normal? No where near the 6.6 L/100 combined quoted by VW.

RP

h100vw
11-03-2015, 05:01 PM
We have recently replaced our Mk6 GTI DSG with a new MY 15 GTI performance, DSG.
I am wanting to know if any other owners are experiencing a high fuel consumption with their GTI.

I know these are performance vehicles and you don't buy them to get great fuel consumption however I am getting nowhere near what we used to get with the Mk6.

The car has done about 2000ks and the last 2 fills have returned 11.6 and 11.75 L/100, all city driving. No thrashing, just normal city acceleration.

We did a highway gentle run-in when we picked up the car of around 650ks and refilled with a return of 7.7L/100.

The Mk6 returned around 8-9 L/100 consistently for all city driving.


Are these figures pretty normal? No where near the 6.6 L/100 combined quoted by VW.

RP

Don't be frightened to drive it hard. If that's your first 3 tankfuls then the engine is still going to be very tight. The consumption will improve as the engine gets the miles on.

Gavin

jonoz
11-03-2015, 05:06 PM
As Gavin said, consumption on my R has decreased over time.

Dam355
11-03-2015, 06:27 PM
I get around 550 - 600 km around town and 750km on long trips in my MK7 GTI.

brad
11-03-2015, 07:04 PM
fuel economy will improve dramatically after 5000km but that still sounds kinda lousy...

Assume you are using 98ron?


BTW: I'd be inclined to get some boost happening & get some pressure behind the rings ASAP or it will be tight forever

Dutch77
11-03-2015, 08:10 PM
I'm around 10% lower on my Mk7 compared to my Mk6 across the board - but no, you won't be matching the 6.6 quoted by VW.

I still get better economy driving it without watching the economy than my in-laws get in their Mazda 3 though - and I know which is more fun.

irossiter
11-03-2015, 08:20 PM
All car companies have secret ways to come up with "official" fuel figures. At least VW are reasonably close to claimed. My now departed Merc A250 couldn't get within 25% to 30% of their claims. All of my VW's definitely improved over time. You could try the Eco mode in town but then the engine and gearbox loses any responsiveness and character and isn't that why we buy a GTI in the first place?


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Jimi
11-03-2015, 10:23 PM
That sounds high, even for a tight engine. Give it another 1000-2000km and if it's not into the 8s for normal urban driving then there's something funny going on

Also run ins shouldn't be gentle. Give it some stick asap

brad
12-03-2015, 10:07 AM
All car companies have secret ways to come up with "official" fuel figures. At least VW are reasonably close to claimed. My now departed Merc A250 couldn't get within 25% to 30% of their claims. All of my VW's definitely improved over time. You could try the Eco mode in town but then the engine and gearbox loses any responsiveness and character and isn't that why we buy a GTI in the first place?


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There's a good thread in the Octavia section that explains the fuel consumption test. Basically, a turbo almost never gets on boost (IIRC, you're allowed 41 seconds to get to 100kph) & can achieve some amazing test figures. I assume the 41seconds was so that the Wartburgs & Trabants could pass the test.

I believe they are looking at revising some aspects of the test to make it more in line with how people really drive.

blameturner
15-03-2015, 09:38 AM
Going very nicely in my Diesel ;)

GTR27
15-03-2015, 02:16 PM
I have found (and Gerrycan has also mentioned iirc) that ac makes a fairly large difference to economy in a 1.4 manual. Almost 1l/100 difference. I can drive in 60 zones around town (non peak) in the mid 5s, but ac bumps that up to low to mid 6s. Stop start bumper to bumper is low 7s now. Highway with ac is high 5s, no ac I reckon I could nearly get high 4s. Engine has loosened up nicely, about 3.5k on the clock and keeps getting better each tank. Gauge seems quite accurate (both fuel gauge and trip computer)

Baz 55
25-04-2015, 03:42 PM
Comfortline 90kw 200nm petrol
Usually drive in Eco Mode (DSG)
2000k on the clock.
Long Term 5.8l per 100km
Last Tank 5.5l per 100km
Driving - city / outer urban mix.
Fuel 95 Ron (just found out I should be using 98 Ron (oops) Next tank :-)

Update - 20,000km on clock - same type of driving.
Seems to be roughly 5.3 on average.
Driving mostly in Eco mode and have become an expert on coasting !! lol

JVdPoel
26-04-2015, 05:29 PM
Comfortline 1.2L - 105bhp - TSI DSG
Mostly used for commute to work which is 50 - 70 - 90 km/h roads
on cruise control, lots of turning on small roads (50km's per day)
6.4L / 100km on the long term (got 2000km on the car now)

Always use the eco mode of the DSG and disable start/stop as soon as I leave home.

Ralfi
26-04-2015, 07:43 PM
That sounds high, even for a tight engine. Give it another 1000-2000km and if it's not into the 8s for normal urban driving then there's something funny going on

Also run ins shouldn't be gentle. Give it some stick asap

Recommend running it in straight away, or after the first 1000km?

brad
27-04-2015, 07:39 AM
Recommend running it in straight away, or after the first 1000km?
straight away. You need to bed the rings in while the cross hatching on the bore is still "sharp".

I'm not saying thrash the engine but for most people run-in has to be more vigorous than what their normal driving will be down the track. It's a really hard head space to get yourself in. My wife just got a new Honda & she can't get her head around it (partly because she is extremely stubborn and doesn't really give a crap about cars).

I can't believe the number of people in this thread that use cruise control, eco mode, "D" mode and aim for fuel economy in the first 3000km. You are just setting yourself up to have a slow, tight, thirsty engine that will probably use more oil than it should.

Ralfi
27-04-2015, 07:45 AM
Ahh thanks. I asked because iirc, the engine in the Polo GTI needed to be run in after a certain number of km's had been reached.

Different engines, different characteristics/demands eh?

brad
27-04-2015, 08:38 AM
Ahh thanks. I asked because iirc, the engine in the Polo GTI needed to be run in after a certain number of km's had been reached.

Different engines, different characteristics/demands eh?

No, they are all engines and can be treated the same.

I'm not sure you have an understanding of what the term "run-in" means. You are running-in or bedding-in the engine (and all the driveline, brakes, suspension, etc) from the first turn of the key at the factory.

You can run them in gently like my aged father does & have a slow engine that drinks fuel like a sailor on shore leave.

You can run them in briskly but gently and they will spin nicely, get good fuel economy & last a long time.

You can thrash the bollocks off them and they will do all of the above & maybe not last quite as long.

I'm a middle-ground guy.

GTR27
27-04-2015, 09:29 AM
Run in is most important in the first few ks. Vary load and speed and you should be right. I'm not trying for economy in any way, just commenting on the figures I get. I took it for a drive in the hills and used the firm run in method. Car gets a proper spanking every now and then also. All my vehicles get that and I haven't had a bad engine yet.

Ralfi
27-04-2015, 09:47 AM
No, they are all engines and can be treated the same.

I'm not sure you have an understanding of what the term "run-in" means. You are running-in or bedding-in the engine (and all the driveline, brakes, suspension, etc) from the first turn of the key at the factory.

You can run them in gently like my aged father does & have a slow engine that drinks fuel like a sailor on shore leave.

You can run them in briskly but gently and they will spin nicely, get good fuel economy & last a long time.

You can thrash the bollocks off them and they will do all of the above & maybe not last quite as long.

I'm a middle-ground guy.

Appreciate all the info, Brad.

I'm not an enthusiast when it comes to cars (clearly), but interested none the less. :)

Mountainman
05-05-2015, 02:15 PM
I have found (and Gerrycan has also mentioned iirc) that ac makes a fairly large difference to economy in a 1.4 manual. Almost 1l/100 difference. I can drive in 60 zones around town (non peak) in the mid 5s, but ac bumps that up to low to mid 6s. Stop start bumper to bumper is low 7s now. Highway with ac is high 5s, no ac I reckon I could nearly get high 4s. Engine has loosened up nicely, about 3.5k on the clock and keeps getting better each tank. Gauge seems quite accurate (both fuel gauge and trip computer)
I find driving into a head wind or driving in rain makes a bigger difference than air con to the economy. I regularly get around mid to upper 4's with highway driving sitting around an indicated 105 (because of the inaccurate speedo) A trip to Sydney and back with air con running all the time gave 4.5 one way and 4.6 the other. The MFD economy readout is usually around 0.2 optimistic. After 73,000km my long term MFD readout averages are always 5.3L/100km

eldubyas
13-05-2015, 11:16 PM
No, they are all engines and can be treated the same.

I'm not sure you have an understanding of what the term "run-in" means. You are running-in or bedding-in the engine (and all the driveline, brakes, suspension, etc) from the first turn of the key at the factory.

You can run them in gently like my aged father does & have a slow engine that drinks fuel like a sailor on shore leave.

You can run them in briskly but gently and they will spin nicely, get good fuel economy & last a long time.

You can thrash the bollocks off them and they will do all of the above & maybe not last quite as long.

I'm a middle-ground guy.


This is my first VW and have been enjoying my 6 week old MK7 GTI PP. Its used primarily for commuting to work each day. I feel that I have been running it in "briskly" with the odd squirt of the pedal occasionally but have noticed a drop in the range each time I have been refuelling (all 98RON). The second refill included a round trip from Melb to Bendigo for work and I probably got close to 600km from that refill.
Avg. consumption depending on traffic started around 8.8l/100km and now edging up to 11l/100km travelling the same route to/from office. The large drop in range is not something I was expecting.
1st tank 560km
2nd refill 560km
3rd refill 520km
4th refill 480km
5th refill 450km

Should I be concerned and take it back to dealer and insist a check up or let it run in longer?

Dam355
13-05-2015, 11:57 PM
My MK7 GTI will get around 750km on a long run including overtaking, some spirited driving as it was through wine country in the southwest of WA. Around the city it will get around 600km +

GTR27
14-05-2015, 07:03 AM
What average speed does each tank have? I find that the average speed a better indicator than outright tank range. If your average is very low <30 then over 500 is OK. If its 60-70+ then that sounds like your having issues

brad
14-05-2015, 10:16 AM
6weeks / 3000km. Engine isn't anywhere near run-in. Give it another 2000km.

eldubyas
14-05-2015, 08:57 PM
Appreciate the feedback. I will check out my avg speed and keep on tracking while it runs in for longer.

ryanjames20
17-05-2015, 06:20 PM
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16356&stc=1
I'd like to think I'm doing the 1.4 TSI proud :D Keep in mind that 650km of that was on normal mode, I only just put eco mode on when I took the photo. I ended up getting a total of 755km out of that tank with 10km to empty on the trip computer.
The car in total has done 2400~km.
TSI for the win :P

Mountainman
25-05-2015, 08:26 AM
Heh I have a 2013 90 TSI and I notice that they range display position has been changed on later models. mine has it in the first line of the display on the right. And if I had a range of 75km like in the above photo my car would be closer to the petrol bowser.

sillyboy
11-06-2015, 04:16 PM
I am driving a 2015 Octavia petrol RS wagon DSG as my daily commute, 25km each way, average speed 30-40 km/h sometimes as low as 20(Sydney traffic), car has done almost 2000kms.

I am getting around 10L/100km on average, however I am still running in the engine, so I rev the engine to 5k even 6k from time to time.

Got down to around 8.5L/100km one morning when it was raining where I used D almost 90% of the time.

adhock
22-06-2015, 12:35 PM
Just back from a reasonably long trip. 2014 TDI wagon, 18000 odd on the clock now, heavily loaded for a 600km each way trip. 5.0 l/100km on the way up overall, 6.0 l/100 km on the way back in foul weather, sitting on 114 km/hr indicated on the cruise control both ways pretty much. Can't complain, tho the 6 was a little higher than expected.

sillyboy
22-06-2015, 12:54 PM
Just back from a reasonably long trip. 2014 TDI wagon, 18000 odd on the clock now, heavily loaded for a 600km each way trip. 5.0 l/100km on the way up overall, 6.0 l/100 km on the way back in foul weather, sitting on 114 km/hr indicated on the cruise control both ways pretty much. Can't complain, tho the 6 was a little higher than expected.

I had the Yeti 103 TDI before the Octavia RS petrol, I found Diesel does better in town than freeway run, went down to southern coast for holiday with 4 adults and a baby onboard, we average around 6.7/100, however on my daily commute I was down to 5.6 or so without even trying.

adhock
22-06-2015, 09:43 PM
Not that much contrast. I can get it under 6 for the commute trip if I try hard, but it isn't easy. Generally, long highway trips are a bit better, and it would be better still if I "drove" in Economy mode vs cruise control I suspect. Nonetheless, 40 to 50 mpg in old terms is not to be sneezed at. Compared to 25 mpg in our old Commodore on a good run.

beachie1
28-06-2015, 10:47 AM
It should be better, and even the lead footed would achieve very good fuel economy. You can drive TDI reasonably fast and still get a good fuel economy unlike the TSI engines. Also in very heavy traffic, bumper to bumper will make a big difference between TSI and TDI. With the diesel returning much better fuel economy than the TSI. :)

I can get 8.5L/100 in Adelaide's crazy roadworks morning traffic in the 3.0L V6TDI Touareg, that weights 1000kg more than Golf. :grin:

[LEFT]I recently did a trip from Newcastle to the South Coast and return.
Mostly at 100 to 110 on active cruise control,not using stop/start or economy mode
Consumption 4.8L100klms.with driver and two passengers.
Just Pennant Hills :cool:Road a bit congested ,rest of trip reasonable freeway traffic.
Just had two year service,at 18000 ks,did not change pollen filter but brake fluid was.
Cost $410.00, did not use economy mode as I forgot,but nice to have a little power when needed or I could also use sports mode for a little fun.Cruises up Mooney Mooney Bridge hill on central Coast at 110 in active cruise control

AJD
29-06-2015, 09:34 PM
I'm running a 2 year old 110 TDI and average around 6/100 for my regular around town commutes (I do drive through Sydney CBD every morning). Did a little run up to the Blue Mountains yesterday with an average of 4.9/100. Best run was a trip Sydney/Wagga return where the average was 4.5/100.

gh172
12-09-2015, 01:04 PM
Ive done 404 kms since picking up my 110tsi highline and I'm averaging 6.1/100 with an average speed of 36 kph. Pretty happy with that given the average speed. I was very close to choosing the TDI and with the long wait I had in getting the car I often wondered if id made a mistake not going for the TDI.

Kiaorana
29-10-2015, 08:47 AM
Hi guys,

Since yesterday I started to notice that the fuel consumtion showed in the MDI seems to be very high, much higher than usual.

If you look at the picture below taken this morning, I was driving at a steady 40k/hr in 4th gear, rpms are 1200, the car shows nearly 17l/100.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/attachments/f197/19674-fuel-consumption-seems-off-20151029_081103-jpg

The average consumption since refueling shows 15.9l/100 over 80kms. The average since I have the car (1500kms) shows just over 9l/100, which seems more like it, but still failry high compared to my mk6 GTI, which was in the high 7s.

What do you guys think?

KiaOrana

DV52
29-10-2015, 09:20 AM
Kiaorana; that sounds like the same performance that I get from my car (give-or-take-a-bit). What were you expecting?

Of course my consumption readings go way-high when I do this:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/10/KZVL9yZjpg1-1.jpg

For any little kiddies reading this reply- don't drive like this at home - LOL!

Cheers
Don

Kiaorana
29-10-2015, 09:28 AM
Of course my consumption readings go way-high when I do this:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/10/KZVL9yZjpg1-1.jpg





Haha, Nice one Don! I just got my licence back after a long year of public trasnposrtation for doing just this! (give or take a couple of Kms/hr) :)

I"m really surprised that I get 15l/100 driving at 40km/h. It doesn't sound right mate. It should be around 8 or 9 max I reckon. I might be wrong tho!

Baz 55
21-11-2015, 08:47 PM
Hi guys,

Since yesterday I started to notice that the fuel consumtion showed in the MDI seems to be very high, much higher than usual.

If you look at the picture below taken this morning, I was driving at a steady 40k/hr in 4th gear, rpms are 1200, the car shows nearly 17l/100.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/attachments/f197/19674-fuel-consumption-seems-off-20151029_081103-jpg

The average consumption since refueling shows 15.9l/100 over 80kms. The average since I have the car (1500kms) shows just over 9l/100, which seems more like it, but still failry high compared to my mk6 GTI, which was in the high 7s.

What do you guys think?

KiaOrana

Yeah that's wrong, either the fuel sensor is out or it's the car.
Check by refilling the car and do a manual check with kms.
Either way, take it back.

terrafirma
26-11-2015, 09:09 PM
I've picked an R up recently, done only 700kms but the fuel consumption is off the charts. Averaging almost 13L for that first 700kms but sometimes jumps up to 16/17 if I push ever so slightly. This is my first Golf/Volkswagen etc so I don't know what to expect all I know if I'd hoped it'd be less than my Holden ute.

brad
27-11-2015, 07:49 AM
I've picked an R up recently, done only 700kms but the fuel consumption is off the charts. Averaging almost 13L for that first 700kms but sometimes jumps up to 16/17 if I push ever so slightly. This is my first Golf/Volkswagen etc so I don't know what to expect all I know if I'd hoped it'd be less than my Holden ute.
tight engine. They take at least 5000km to come good.

Don't drive for economy. Keep pushing it and working higher up in the rev range. Run it in slow & it will be slow forever (and use lots of fuel)

terrafirma
27-11-2015, 10:47 AM
Definitely not holding back. Was worried I might be going too hard. Based on the consumption. But it's a sports car so it's made to be pushed hard so figured that's what I'll do. Besides got 3 years to fix anything for free. I won't worry about it then until later on, cheers for advice.

Lucas_R
27-11-2015, 12:40 PM
I've picked an R up recently, done only 700kms but the fuel consumption is off the charts. Averaging almost 13L for that first 700kms but sometimes jumps up to 16/17 if I push ever so slightly. This is my first Golf/Volkswagen etc so I don't know what to expect all I know if I'd hoped it'd be less than my Holden ute.

As brad said - let it run in for a few thousand km's before getting too worried. My old Mk6 Golf R (which was a less efficient engine and the car weighed more than the Mk7 version) averaged in the low 9L range per 100km and than was mostly short trips around town (it very rarely went on the highway). And the engine in that was modified too (stage 2+).

A guy i work with has a Mk7 R and he has a 100-110km round trip every day from home-work-home and he fills up every 6 days - so that's 600 odd km's out of a tank - and he is quite a lead foot (his car is tuned too).

terrafirma
27-11-2015, 02:52 PM
I'm not too concerned in a way that I think it's poor mileage I just didn't want a problem with mine specifically. If after its well and truly run in it still has poor mileage I won't care, I didn't buy the car for that. I just want what was sold to me and a low to mid 9's is about what I'm hoping to get. I'll check back in a few thousand k's with where it's at. Will probably do a stage 1 when I'm bored with it, still plenty of time before that happens.

Lucas_R
27-11-2015, 03:37 PM
I'm not too concerned in a way that I think it's poor mileage I just didn't want a problem with mine specifically. If after its well and truly run in it still has poor mileage I won't care, I didn't buy the car for that. I just want what was sold to me and a low to mid 9's is about what I'm hoping to get. I'll check back in a few thousand k's with where it's at. Will probably do a stage 1 when I'm bored with it, still plenty of time before that happens.

Stage 1 tune makes a huge difference on the Mk7 R - makes it go from a "brisk" car to a damn fast car.

As for mileage - unless you drive on a perfectly flat freeway all day at 80kph you will never get the economy stated on the windscreen sticker, it's just not realistic in the real world with traffic/start-stop driving/hills/etc etc but you should be closer to 10L per 100km once the engine has run in and loosened up a bit.

pepito
23-01-2016, 08:06 PM
Thought I'd made a calculation mistake when I only recently started recording consumption figures but it checks out.

I'm averaging 7.9 l/100km, all city driving, in Sports mode, with air-con on a substantial proportion of the time.

SamH
29-04-2016, 03:28 PM
Guys,

I recently purchased the GTI Performance and luv the car. But I'm not getting the consumptions that VW mentioned. i'm getting roughly 9.2L/100 75% driving short distance by my wife. Any idea why I'm not getting around 7L/100 on this. Would like to know others experiences too

Kiaorana
29-04-2016, 03:33 PM
Hi mate, I got a 2016 GTI DSG non performance with15k kms. I'm getting 7L only on motorway with cruise control. As soon as I'm doing a bit of city, it goes up to 9L/100

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Tuan
29-04-2016, 04:30 PM
Reasons are because your car is new, short distances / cold engine = higher fuel consumption.

It's very unlikely that you are able to match said consumption with 'normal day to day driving'. Some will tell you they can match or exceed these figures but I don't really consider highway driving and shifting at 1,500 RPM real driving' :)

And perhaps most importantly, although cynical, VW (and all the other manufacturers) are probably lying to us. Look up latest Mitsubishi fuel economy bombshell.

Just enjoy the car and take fuel consumption numbers with a grain of salt.

Dutch77
29-04-2016, 04:43 PM
I'm not so sure it's lying as much as tuning the car for the tests to get the best results (and no that is not an invitation for someone to bring up cheat software, go cry in the whiners section). I know the Mk6 and from memory the Mk7 have various flat spots in their standard tunes which happen to coincide with where the official fuel cycle testing is run, which is one reason why tuners are able to get great results with just stage 1 - by basically wiping these out.

There's a whole thread on economy already which is where I am sure this will end up, but FWIW and as above, you'd need to be on a hill or using minimal acceleration to get to 7 on a short run. I used to get into the 7s on country drives that had a mix of cruising and spirited driving; I had sessions well into double digits including around town; and I went into the low 6s at times on the highway or even with clear roads at night.

Tuan
29-04-2016, 05:11 PM
Haha whiners section .. that's gold.

And yes, the consumption and CO2/NOX tests etc. are done indoors on rollers and yes the cars can be / are programmed to maximise fuel efficiency during those cycles (and no, I don't need to mention dieselgate).

It's just something to compare different manufacturers against each other, but to actually match those figures with your own car on the road, with 4 passengers, a full tank of fuel, boot full of groceries, tyres out of alignment, air conditioning on full on a 40 degree heat day ... good luck.

Dutch77
29-04-2016, 05:41 PM
:P

Agreed - I think they are useful for comparison, although it seems like some cars definitely get closer in percentage terms than others - I've always rated the Mk6 and Mk7 GTI very good in that regard given the performance on offer.. (and in your case I'm sure the Octavia is not much different, bar a little extra weight for the size).

wasabiz
29-04-2016, 06:11 PM
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/04/5a94cf7b180e93747c9b7b846f9035a9-1.jpg

This is what I'm getting on highway, and roughly 8.5-9 on city driving


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SamH
29-04-2016, 07:31 PM
Hi mate, I got a 2016 GTI DSG non performance with15k kms. I'm getting 7L only on motorway with cruise control. As soon as I'm doing a bit of city, it goes up to 9L/100

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Thanks for the reply..in my case it is the same..I would rather enjoy the car and not worry about fuel consumption at least for now :)

SamH
29-04-2016, 07:34 PM
thanks wasabiz..:)

brad
30-04-2016, 10:26 AM
Guys,

I recently purchased the GTI Performance and luv the car. But I'm not getting the consumptions that VW mentioned. i'm getting roughly 9.2L/100 75% driving short distance by my wife. Any idea why I'm not getting around 7L/100 on this. Would like to know others experiences too
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I have a 1.8tsi.
Short trips around the 'burbs with lots of stop/start for lights & other traffic give me 9-10L/100km.
Longer trips around the 'burbs with flowing traffic and warm oil gives 8L/100km.
Highway gives 6.3L/100km.

You won't do much better out of your 2.0tsi.

If you wanted good fuel economy for short trips, etc then you should have bought a Camry Hybrid - I have one for work and it's crap on the highway but gets 4.5L/100km around town without trying too hard. Of course, then you have to put up with the embarrassment of looking like a taxi driver / retiree....

/searches... According to the VW brochure the rated economy is 8.3L/100km urban cycle. You aren't far off that. Keep in mind your engine probably isn't run in yet either - probably won't ever be if you just tootle around the 'burbs doing short trips.

Umai Naa!!
30-04-2016, 10:39 AM
As per above, get it out on the open road.

Take the wife away for the weekend in the car, to somewhere nice.

rain0021
30-04-2016, 07:20 PM
I've seen 40 litres/100km on my readout at times. Then I change gear and it looks a little better.

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SamH
01-05-2016, 05:44 PM
Problem highlighted in bold.

I have a 1.8tsi.
Short trips around the 'burbs with lots of stop/start for lights & other traffic give me 9-10L/100km.
Longer trips around the 'burbs with flowing traffic and warm oil gives 8L/100km.
Highway gives 6.3L/100km.

You won't do much better out of your 2.0tsi.

If you wanted good fuel economy for short trips, etc then you should have bought a Camry Hybrid - I have one for work and it's crap on the highway but gets 4.5L/100km around town without trying too hard. Of course, then you have to put up with the embarrassment of looking like a taxi driver / retiree....

/searches... According to the VW brochure the rated economy is 8.3L/100km urban cycle. You aren't far off that. Keep in mind your engine probably isn't run in yet either - probably won't ever be if you just tootle around the 'burbs doing short trips.

you are right.. I did 70km drive yesterday on freeway and it did 6.7L/100 which is really good. So I'm not going to worry too much about the short runs.

Pete01
01-05-2016, 10:08 PM
10,000km now on the girl. Gets Vortex 98... Can drive on the freeway from home to City Perth 40km one way and get 6.4L/100km on the read out with no issue.. Around town 7.0-7.9L/100km....

bellawii
03-05-2016, 04:43 AM
I'm getting 6.5L/100 on my 90tsi wagon 1.4L with avg speed of 33kms/hr. Using 98 with no DA package, pretty happy with economy, disappointed about avg speed :)


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Tonyvh
04-05-2016, 07:47 PM
10000 KMS on my My16 Comfortline, average 5.2 l/100kms. I am driving like granny though :-)

Primordial
05-05-2016, 09:02 PM
I'm getting 16L/100km just cruising with a little bit of a play, running to and from work. Though that's running E85 mix and a bunch more boost than normal. Makes sense I guess.. :P

kaiserky
12-06-2016, 07:19 PM
110 TSI with 2500ks averaged 7.6/100 mostly city driving. Hopefully will loosen up a little shortly.

Ky

sillygogo
12-06-2016, 11:12 PM
Hi Granny,

6000kms on our my16, average 7.6l/100kms.

Tonyvh
18-06-2016, 12:18 PM
Hi Sillygogo,
How are you? Yeah Ive been using the coasting function as well as enjoy the Golf. Best car I ever had, for now anyway.

Harrydhillon
18-06-2016, 07:17 PM
6900k, average 6.7l/100kms

sillygogo
18-06-2016, 08:40 PM
Hi Sillygogo,
How are you? Yeah Ive been using the coasting function as well as enjoy the Golf. Best car I ever had, for now anyway.

We are doing good, I am glad that you are enjoying the car. For us it is the school run car, so alot of stop start and short trip, so fuel economy isn't great. I must say this 7 is much better than my golf 6. Maybe I should be part of the ACCC lemon car review later in the year. Saying that we already had a major problem in the 7, a new clutch after 4000kms.

ian
18-06-2016, 09:57 PM
On a recent trip from Sydney. To Brisbane. I averaged 16 km to the litre. Or 6 litres/100 km. I only refueled when I reached. Brisbane
Admittedly I filled the tank to the brim. Before I left.

Tonyvh
21-06-2016, 12:34 AM
That's bad Siligogo. Guess I'm lucky. Have the 103 Highline as well. Both cars are ok, just for now I guess.

brad
21-06-2016, 08:51 AM
Hi Granny,

6000kms on our my16, average 7.6l/100kms.
The engine isn't run-in yet and you aren't reaching normal operating temperature. It takes about 10km for all fluids to get to temp and the engine to give optimum economy.

sillygogo
21-06-2016, 11:09 PM
The engine isn't run-in yet and you aren't reaching normal operating temperature. It takes about 10km for all fluids to get to temp and the engine to give optimum economy.

I hear ya, doing the school run doesn't help. I am getting better millage on my 118TSI, but that is doing longer trip and part highway.