how do rate drivers in your city?

[sVWatt]

Love this recent Canberra Times poll; rating the things that bug you most about other drivers...
5536

My personal top three 'hates' are;
1. Drivers stuck in the right lane doing less than the limit and overtaking nothing,
2. Drivers, especially 4x4s tailgating,
3. Lack of indicating skills,

(and yes I've done the last two several times in the past myself too)

[BLKMKV]

Newcastle area, extremely poor
- no merging skills whatsoever
- tailgating
- most drivers necks don't seem to work when changing lanes, especially notice this when out on my bike
- very arrogant and ignorant fast lane hogs


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[Tim]

at least the tail gating problem shows that the speed kills campaign is working.

[MCiN7]

I think tail-gating, driving slow in the right-hand lane and zig-zagging through traffic all tie into one another.

[revhead1016]

I agree with you svwatt. Tail gating

[dylan8]

Where i was in burwood/mount Waverley the main factor was lack of skills and no idea on road rules.
We actually had to tell a lady to turn her highbeams off while parking behind us, she told us that her car doesnt have highbeams, then required us to tell her how to turn them off once we had convinced her she did have them.

[Ben J]

I get irrationally angry on the inside at ****s who aren't necessarily weaving through traffic, but get in the left lanes that everyone knows end to get in front of traffic. Always have to sit at a certain set of lights on my way home for an extra few minutes because of it.

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[MCiN7]

I get irrationally angry on the inside at ****s who aren't necessarily weaving through traffic, but get in the left lanes that everyone knows end to get in front of traffic. Always have to sit at a certain set of lights on my way home for an extra few minutes because of it.

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Happens on my way home from work as well. They go from the far left lane that merges, instantly to the right hand lane ><...

[Polo GTEye N9]

I live in a particular Southern Suberb of Brisbane where I suspect, well actually it is proven that many punters behind the wheel are not licenced. Well not by Queensland Transport anyway. International licenced 'drivers' (a misnomer) tool around terrorising all and sundry. Try the simple, 'guess which change of direction I am taking'. They indicate left/right but go the opposite across three lanes. Mobile phone use while they drive makes them 50 times worse, weaving like a druken sailor and then slowing to a crawl. Even when not on the phone they are dangerous, they will still insist on tailgating. Believe me I have seen some terrible stuff but they keep topping it without blinking an eye.

Any area, extremely poor
- no merging skills whatsoever
- tailgating
- most drivers necks don't seem to work when changing lanes. Actully these drivers are deliberate. If they do not give eye contact it is OK!
- very arrogant and ignorant fast lane hogs

[Tobes_WIR35]

Brisbane

Not too bad generally, but lots of right lane hogs on highways.

And everyone in Brisbane knows to keep your wits about you when driving in or around Sunnybank.

[MadWorm]

My personal top three 'hates' are;
1. Drivers stuck in the right lane doing less than the limit and overtaking nothing,
2. Drivers, especially 4x4s tailgating,
3. Lack of indicating skills,

(and yes I've done the last two several times in the past myself too)

Agree on number 1 Canberrans are really bad for this, and yes I'm guilty of subsequently tailgating as well.

[Ben J]

I must say I have found drivers in North brisbane better than south brisbane after making the move up here. Still people around though who should not be on the roads.

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[Mk3 AAA]

For me it's the lack of distance. Dropping back a bit and showing a little patience and courtesy would go a long way. Nice fat gaps on the motorway and keep up to speed.

[Tobes_WIR35]

For me it's the lack of distance. Dropping back a bit and showing a little patience and courtesy would go a long way. Nice fat gaps on the motorway and keep up to speed.

The problem that I have found is when I keep an appropriate gap, ffffwits will change lanes into that gap.

So many derps..

[Harrydhillon]

1. Speeding up on overtaking lanes, then slowing down way below the speed limit when you overtake
2. Pulling out in front of you from intersections onto 100km/h roads

[wai]

The best thing is to not let things wind you up. So you have to move, or let some idiot in who zips down a lane that ends to queue jump. You get your "revenge" when you get to the next set of lights and find you are ahead of them once again.

Just because someone wants to zip around does not make them a good driver. Also, the "keep left unless overtaking" rule only applies to roads where the speed limit is in EXCESS of 80 km/h or if there are signs there. In urban settings where there are multi-lane roads, this does not apply for a couple of reasons. First is that the speed limit is 80 km/h or less, and secondly, a "keep left unless overtaking" would have to be posted after each intersection on the road.

The other evening, there was a learner driver going up the hill from Delhi Road to Fullers Road in Lane Cove. Unfortunately this was during the evening peak. Just ahead of him was someone on a bicycle. For those who don't know, this is reasonably steep and no additional room. The learner was very nervous and while there was JUST enough room to overtake the guy on the bike, the learner was not confident to do this and so stayed behind. A lot of drivers behind me got a bit hot under the collar for no real reason.

Everyone was a learner some time. Ok, so doing this during the evening peak was probably ill considered, but things like this do happen and even learners need to learn how to handle heavy traffic. There is no reason to get worked up because you have to drive according to whatever circumstances you find. You just have to hope that one day, you don't do exactly what you complain about.

The only one you can do anything about is YOU. Don't get too worked up about things you cannot do anything about.

[JustCruisn]

The only one you can do anything about is YOU. Don't get too worked up about things you cannot do anything about.
But you can do something about it, they call it road rage.
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[wai]

But you can do something about it, they call it road rage.

But then you end up behind bars, and I don't think that's what you really want???

[Ideo]

Newcastle area, extremely poor
- no merging skills whatsoever
- tailgating
- most drivers necks don't seem to work when changing lanes, especially notice this when out on my bike
- very arrogant and ignorant fast lane hogs


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Add to that pretty abysmal at recognising red lights.

[JustCruisn]

I decked the last **** who crashed into me, so far nothing from the cops.
But seriously people do need to calm down. Driving can be stressful, so many rules and regulations to follow, and so many people flaunting them.

[ziggyboy]

I live in Canberra too and think they are the worst in the country. I have lived in Wollongong and Sydney previously, and driven in other capital cities in the country.

The people who say Sydney or Melbourne drivers are worse have obviously never driven there.

Tailgating, zipping through traffic and slow cars on the right lane as someone mentioned is definitely related. The #2 spot on that survey was slow right lane traffic. I actually think those who voted slow right traffic are people who dangerously zip across Canberra roads.

I have been tailgated in Monaro Hwy during PEAK period driving 110kph while the limit was 100kph. Yes, I was speeding but was still being tailgated by someone who wanted to go faster.

So what did he do?

He tailgated me, dangerously switched lanes, tailgated the left lane car, then zipped back in front of me only to tailgate the car in front. *Facepalm*

[MadWorm]

Tapping the brakes every 100m even though the road is clear, besides wearing out brake components, why?

[Ben J]

People who don't get up to the speed limit on on ramps, making merging dangerous not only for themselves, but all of us behind them...

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[muli]

Recent survey of emergency services personel found sunnybank area with the worst drivers for giving way

[Ideo]

Tapping the brakes every 100m even though the road is clear, besides wearing out brake components, why?

Bizzare isn't it?

I drove behind someone on the F3 doing that for 50 odd kms.

I don't do that - which is why I am sitting at 95,000kms on original pads and rotors.

[Mk3 AAA]

Oh and merging 10kms+ under the speed limit

[BLKMKV]

Bizzare isn't it?

I drove behind someone on the F3 doing that for 50 odd kms.

I don't do that - which is why I am sitting at 95,000kms on original pads and rotors.

My Audi used to do this with the cruise control on, it actually braked when it went 3-5 kmh over what you had set, and the brake lights came on


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[Polo GTEye N9]

Bizzare isn't it?

I drove behind someone on the F3 doing that for 50 odd kms.

I don't do that - which is why I am sitting at 95,000kms on original pads and rotors.

Crazy hey, this behaviour seems to be a result of their fear of driving. I have driven 100,000 plus on OEM front pads and they were still legal.

[greg32]

Orange has the most dangerous drivers i have encountered. I find drivers in the USA and elsewhere in Australia much better. Coming home today i had a 4wd go straight at a roundabout without slowing from a left turn lane and the same retard overtook me later across double lines when i was already just over the 50km limit. Unfortunataly the incar cams had the card full or i would have taken the footage to the llocal highway patrol.

[Sunny43.5]

Recent survey of emergency services personel found sunnybank area with the worst drivers for giving way

The answer to that one could be summed up by demographics take a look at the predominate country of origin of drivers in Sunnybank .

[LunchboxVRS]

The only states I haven't lived in is the NT and WA so driven nearly everywhere and the worst driving is when it rains in tassie. Every one just looses there mind and skill. As soon as a drop hits there windscreen.

[winchy]

Looks like there are Sunnybanks all over the world! lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLuaPZWkvZ0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[eek]

Now, for a bit of controversy, I don't find Sunnybank that bad at all. I do live on the south side and see heaps of stupid crap, especially since I own a property at Sunnybank too. I lived in Perth for about a year and found drivers there about the same....until it started raining....then everyone drives 40kph under the limit.

I find Australians have bad road rage. I've lived here for 20+ years, and compared to SE asia for example, good, but in a different way. On the surface, most westerners are scared of driving somewhere like Bangkok because it looks so chaotic. Even though it's chaotic, drivers are all still really peaceful. For example, if a car needs to stop, slow down, do an illegal turn, pickup/drop off passengers etc, nobody is right up your arse with their palm planted on the horn giving you the finger.

In Australia, if you slow down with your indicator on to pull into a driveway, or slow down to look for a house number or shop somewhere, people behind you immediately begin flashing their lights, swear at you and stare you down as they pull into the next lane to overtake you.

Anywhoo, I have two dash cams, front and rear, with parking mode.

[gavs]

I got back from far North Queensland not that long ago and by far, the worst drivers I have encountered across our wide brown land. Tassie drivers are definitely the most suicidal, Melbourne the worst road rage, Sydney the worst tailgaters and disregard for road rules but that top end of oz, it's like they have an instant lobotomy switch in the car. Driving in tailgating convoy at 20kph under the speed limit in the right lane without anyone moving left to go around, tailgating in torrential tropical downpours at 110kph, yet not going past when they have an overtaking lane, they just keep tailgating. Randomly slowing down on highways for no reason, doing excessive speeds through speed zones under 70kph, yet any speed zone above 70kph they won't go any faster than 10kph UNDER the speed limit and worst of all, they can't seem to work out roundabouts... Oh, they also don't look at intersections when they pull out!

[Blitzen]

Having driven in every state bar WA, and lived in Sydney, Darwin, Townsville (twice), a couple of places in Victoria, and Canberra for the last few years, I can say that Canberra has the worst drivers in Australia. Don't get me wrong, I love Canberra, but the drivers are truly atrocious. You you think that a place with so many roundabouts would have a populace that knew how to use them, or knew how to merge properly... Hell, in the NT they had ads on tv that told you how to use roundabouts and how to merge, we need that here in Canberra!!

And don't get me started on the DC plate brigade!!

[eek]

Here is something I captured on Saturday coming back from the city.

After merging into her lane from a safe distance, then braking slightly to stay under the speed limit, she decides to suddenly accelerate at me and flash her lights, flip me off, then tailgate me some more. After we stop at the next set of lights, she gets out of her car to shout at me, then tailgate me some more afterwards.

Imagine if I happened to be armed and angry as well? What if I got out of my car too? Really, not a smart person, nor a safe driver. :(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsB3HKZB0z4

[sVWatt]

Here is something I captured on Saturday coming back from the city.

After merging into her lane from a safe distance, then braking slightly to stay under the speed limit, she decides to suddenly accelerate at me and flash her lights, flip me off, then tailgate me some more. After we stop at the next set of lights, she gets out of her car to shout at me, then tailgate me some more afterwards.


Good onya Eek. She has zero sense of safe distance. I too am partial to sniff my ***** brake techniques when faced with backward tailgaters. Tapping those red lights usualy wakes them up.

[14nce]

I have only really driven in Brisbane. I drive approx. 50km each way to/from work,redcliffe to/from cannon hill.

I go both across the gateway, and through the city/sandgate road depending how I feel or what time I leave.

My biggest hates are:
Ignornant drivers who stick in the faster moving lane then get to an exit/on ramp/side street and just indicate and expect everyone else to stop and let them change lanes

People who cant stay in their own lane/side of the road. I have had it when I am driving in the right hand lane, then the car next to has come half into my lane and a car travelling the other direction came into my lane. I have no idea how there arent alot more accidents in these spots!

Drivers who will purposly go into a lane that ends in 100m, or take and exit to come straight back onto the highway to get 10 cars in front of where they were. When basically the only people merging are knobs doing that, it is what causes traffic to slow down at the merge!

[AndrewBurns]

I hate how people seem completely unable to understand highway merging on ramps. The whole point of an on-ramp is to let you get to speed before you merge with fast traffic, I don't think I've ever merged onto a highway in Sydney behind somebody who understands this. Usually you're stuck at the end of a huge queue of cars doing 60 kph and not accelerating until they actually get onto the highway.

[tom89]

I hate how people seem completely unable to understand highway merging on ramps. The whole point of an on-ramp is to let you get to speed before you merge with fast traffic, I don't think I've ever merged onto a highway in Sydney behind somebody who understands this. Usually you're stuck at the end of a huge queue of cars doing 60 kph and not accelerating until they actually get onto the highway.

I don't think I have been able to do that in Sydney either. Ever tried to enter the M4 westbound from Homebush Bay Drive?

I whinge, everyone whinges... its a big circle. Some people really are just utterly incompetent and then there's the rest of us who think we're not too bad at driving and every other road user around us is incompetent.

[Polo GTEye N9]

Another example of 'bad behaviour' this time at Sunnybank KMart under cover carpark.

Scene is this, it is around 1.30pm and there are very few car spaces free. We see a family setting up to leave a spot. So I place my Polo suitably and set my leaft indicator on to flag that we have owned that soon to be free parking space. Seconds later a women in a silver Merc drives right up behind me and parked with her left indicator flashing her intention to drive into 'my already flagged spot'. Since Merc lady has now parked so that the family can't exit and I can't reverse into it, we are at a stalemate! My good wife gets out and motions to Merc lady to back the Merc away to let the family exit the parking space.
Merc lady sits comatose, unresponsive looking like she has no idea what the fuss is about. Wife gestures to Merc lady with a waving motion to back the Merc away. Merc lady finally moves a half a meter back, so I begin slowly reverse back and Merc lady is unmoved. That is really unmoved, emotionly and physically. Family driver is free at last to exit and I have to do a series of reverse 3 point turns to revserse into the now empty space.
Merc lady drives off as if nothing happened. Can anyone tell me what happened?

This very similar situation happens to us as passengers in the same carpark but on the rooftop. That time it was Corrola Sheila not Merc lady! And my friend road raged Merc lady but she was also unmoved, emotionly and physically.

PS Reminder to self 'look harder for Dash Cams on forums', must get two cams for front & rear video capture!