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BottomScratcher
03-08-2013, 08:04 AM
This is very much a First World problem that I find mildly annoying. Every time I start the engine and the satnav boots up the map scale is different to when I last switched the engine off, e.g. I park up with the scale on 75m, start the car an hour later and the scale displayed is 150m. Drive to the shops, park up, come back and start up and the scale is out to 300m. Next startup it's 150m again. All over the place. I recently had a satnav antenna problem, and had the dodgy antenna replaced under warranty. I used a puck antenna under the dash until I had the antenna repalced, and wanted to see if the scale would keep changing after I had the new rooftop antenna fitted. It does. I think the issue might have more to do with a FW update to 4120. I'm pretty sure the timing of the update, and when the map scale started changing is about the same.

It just means I have to manually adjust the scale practically every time I start the car - like I said, a First World problem. This only happens at system startup, and the map scale doesn't change while driving. It isn't the variable map scale option (Autozoom) indicated by the "+" inside a small magnifying glass. I've got that off. The manual doesn't say that it should stay the same until altered, but it has for the last 2 years. Anyone got any clues as to why it has started doing this and/or what I can do to sort it I'd be glad to hear them. Thanks.

Zebby
04-08-2013, 09:35 AM
Have been meaning to ask the exact same thing for a while. Quite annoying really having to change the zoom every time you go into maps.

Another thing I find weird is when in navigation typing in an address I have to choose which country I am in !!! Their are only 2 choices, but doesn't it know I am in Australia??

Thanks

dArK5HaD0w
04-08-2013, 08:39 PM
i'm running on firmware 4120 with v6 maps - it always remembers where i left it (after ignition off), be it on 75m, 150m, 400m or Auto.

zei20t
05-08-2013, 09:05 AM
im running the same as darkshadow, but I have the same issue from the OP.

weird, but I just turn the right-knob to get it back to where I like it

BottomScratcher
05-08-2013, 01:27 PM
Thanks for the input. Odd that it remembers the last scale in some cars, but not others with all running the same FW and map versions.

there's nothing of any significance that I've found in the Map, Nav, or Setup menus. Possibly a VCDS setting?

zei20t
05-08-2013, 02:28 PM
TBH I expect it to happen now so im prepared for zooming.

come to think of it, it only seems to happen when I enter a destination.

if I turn on the map without entering a destination, as in I just want to see whats around me, it appears to remember my last selection.

tonymy01
05-08-2013, 04:53 PM
Mine remembers also,I rarely enter destination.

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Guest001
05-08-2013, 06:12 PM
Have been meaning to ask the exact same thing for a while. Quite annoying really having to change the zoom every time you go into maps.

Another thing I find weird is when in navigation typing in an address I have to choose which country I am in !!! Their are only 2 choices, but doesn't it know I am in Australia??

Thanks

Enter a destination and save it and it will retain the country

Mine retains the scale except when on zoom and then it defaults to zoom out

Guest001
05-08-2013, 06:15 PM
Thanks for the input. Odd that it remembers the last scale in some cars, but not others with all running the same FW and map versions.

there's nothing of any significance that I've found in the Map, Nav, or Setup menus. Possibly a VCDS setting?

Do a soft reset by pushing the top two l/h and far r/h buttons all at the same time Fixes lots of glitches

LunchboxVRS
05-08-2013, 06:55 PM
My first RNS was v5 maps and 39xx and never changed scale. It had a issue with the 26 pin plug so Was returned. my next unit was v5 4120 and it changes scale all the time from 200m to 5km I then got v6 maps and still the same. It has to be a firmware thing. My scale never goes down always up from what I left it at. I have noticed it only changes when it's been a while. If the unit goes through its start up it will change.

Guest001
05-08-2013, 07:02 PM
My first RNS was v5 maps and 39xx and never changed scale. It had a issue with the 26 pin plug so Was returned. my next unit was v5 4120 and it changes scale all the time from 200m to 5km I then got v6 maps and still the same. It has to be a firmware thing. My scale never goes down always up from what I left it at. I have noticed it only changes when it's been a while. If the unit goes through its start up it will change.

Try the reset then

kamold
05-08-2013, 07:28 PM
Mine has always stuck to the previous setting as far as I can remember, through every possible firmware version 2760->5238...

I find the autozoom to be a bit too far out generally (eg jumping to 1km scale when on a 60km/h arterial road), so prefer to control the scale myself. I'll have to look into the adaptation channels tomorrow and see if there is anything that might look remotely like it would control this behaviour...

gjws
16-08-2013, 11:45 PM
Hi all,

Firstly to all the people that have sent me PM's over the last few months, sorry! I've been working OS and not paying attention to the forums as the GTI was 15000kms away :)

Anyway, the reason for my post is I'm having the same zoom problem and it's really starting to bug me. I rarely use the navigation function as to be honest I think it's crap, my iPhone and google maps puts it to shame. But I often use it when I want to see if I can duck around red lights or a traffic holdup, it's great to see where the roads around you lead.

When I do this I'm typically looking for a street quickly, and it's terribly frustrating when it pops up zoomed out to 75km! I've tried the reset with no joy, and I'm running the latest maps and firmware having upgraded a few days ago when I got home.

Has anyone had any joy finding a fix as yet, nothing in the VAG that looks promising?

BottomScratcher
17-08-2013, 06:47 AM
Has anyone had any joy finding a fix as yet, nothing in the VAG that looks promising?

Not that I'm aware of.

Mine only started doing it after a FW upgrade to 4120, but as can be seen from the posts on this thread the fact the satnav suddenly changed behaviour in conjunction with FW upgrade doesn't prove conclusively that the change in behaviour is due to the FW upgrade. That said I'm not a great believer in pure coincidence, but there's nothing that sees me able to say with any certainty that the FW upgrade is the cause of scale changing as a couple of people are running the same FW and map version as I am without scale changes on start up. Something to do with that combination of FW/maps in relation to the head unit model it's applied to perhaps? In the words of Qausimodo, just a hunch.

EDIT: Meant to say in the last couple of posts that I've tried soft resets as suggested, but they didn't resolve the issue.

kamold
17-08-2013, 07:48 AM
I promised I'd check through the adaptation channels for anything related to this....will do so later today and report back.

greg32
17-08-2013, 08:47 AM
I haven't had this problem. Try turning off auto zoom and setting a good size image with the map settings. This should be able to be done on the normal controls without vcds.

BottomScratcher
17-08-2013, 09:06 AM
I haven't had this problem. Try turning off auto zoom and setting a good size image with the map settings. This should be able to be done on the normal controls without vcds.

I never have Autozoom on, so I don't think it's related to that feature. Whether set by the screen, or by the knob the scale changes upwards at the next start.

thezoneR32
17-08-2013, 12:28 PM
+ one for this annoying glitch and its def since FW upgrade to 4120. Mine is an older c vers so I dont have the abilty to turn the dial and and change zoom it has to be done manually on the touch screen and its freakin annoying!

kamold
17-08-2013, 01:07 PM
Ok, just went through the adaptation channels, coding and all setup/test mode options, there doesn't appear to be anything that would control this.

Anyone want to be a guinea pig and try an upgrade to 5238 to see if it corrects it? I am on 5238 now but I have not ever seen these reported symptoms on any level of firmware from 26xx to 5238, with everything in between on my unit....

BottomScratcher
17-08-2013, 01:28 PM
Ok, just went through the adaptation channels, coding and all setup/test mode options, there doesn't appear to be anything that would control this.

Anyone want to be a guinea pig and try an upgrade to 5238 to see if it corrects it? I am on 5238 now but I have not ever seen these reported symptoms on any level of firmware from 26xx to 5238, with everything in between on my unit....

G'day. I was thinking of this, but didn't want to pester you again so soon after you last helped me out. I'm game. And thanks for the offer.

Guest001
17-08-2013, 01:33 PM
Ok, just went through the adaptation channels, coding and all setup/test mode options, there doesn't appear to be anything that would control this.

Anyone want to be a guinea pig and try an upgrade to 5238 to see if it corrects it? I am on 5238 now but I have not ever seen these reported symptoms on any level of firmware from 26xx to 5238, with everything in between on my unit....

Im with you, have just been for a drive and set the zoom at 25m and when i stopped to go shopping and restarted it was still on 25m.

However when on auto zoom it has started on different ratios to what it was on when turned off.

Could it be that it defaults to a certain zoom level when on Auto.????????

BottomScratcher
17-08-2013, 01:34 PM
+ one for this annoying glitch and its def since FW upgrade to 4120. Mine is an older c vers so I dont have the abilty to turn the dial and and change zoom it has to be done manually on the touch screen and its freakin annoying!

I've got a Skoda Columbus 3T0035680B, which I'm sure equates to a RNS 510 C model. I've always been able to adjust the map scale via the right hand radio button/dial.

Guest001
17-08-2013, 01:35 PM
+ one for this annoying glitch and its def since FW upgrade to 4120. Mine is an older c vers so I dont have the abilty to turn the dial and and change zoom it has to be done manually on the touch screen and its freakin annoying!

Mine is a C which has been upgraded and the dial works Some you have to push in and turn.

BottomScratcher
17-08-2013, 01:50 PM
Im with you, have just been for a drive and set the zoom at 25m and when i stopped to go shopping and restarted it was still on 25m.

However when on auto zoom it has started on different ratios to what it was on when turned off.

Could it be that it defaults to a certain zoom level when on Auto.????????

It mostly goes up in 2X increments at each start up (75 to 150 to 300 etc). And then there's that infrequent, but mysterious radio station changing. Has to be a FW thing, but beyond me to be able to prove it.

Edit: I only found out recently that if I push the right hand knob while nav guidance is on "she" will repeat the last instruction. Any other time I push it "she" says, "The guidance system is inactive".

thezoneR32
17-08-2013, 10:58 PM
My bad I looked back over my firmware and build date etc and mine was a "B" version which I have upgraded to 4120 so hence no right hand button zoom functionality and no auto zoom. Not sure I'm game to go any further with firmware as even 4120 was pushing it.