Ebay Mod Chips [Archive] - VWWatercooled Australia

nashan

26-09-2007, 07:07 AM

Hey again fellas,

Just wondering if anyone has tried or know anyone who has bought and tried one of the performance chips from ebay. $30 sounds a bit to cheap for my liking. Has anyone got any fairly cheap options for a Mod chip? Also while im on the topic does anyone know the whereabouts of the IAT sensor on a 2003 Bora 4motion Sport?

Cheers
Nathan

MattyT

26-09-2007, 08:25 PM

$30 for a chip?

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

SoVeReIgN

26-09-2007, 09:48 PM

God no.

Avoid like the plague

Spyda

26-09-2007, 10:07 PM

h100vw

26-09-2007, 10:11 PM

What about the mk2 chips?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-Jetta-MK2-Cabriolet-Chip-Digifant-8V-GTI-6HP_W0QQitemZ220070875892QQihZ012QQcategoryZ32094Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

Heard good stuff on vwvortex......

I have one of these in my Ibiza and have no complaints. Doesn't like anything but 98 octane though.

Gavin

nashan

27-09-2007, 06:57 AM

Yeah i had a feeling this was the case. The werid thing is they all have a good feedback and customers are happy with them! Weird, dont know if id trust a 30 dollar gadget on a $30000 car though. Im getting the cold air induction, KNN and 19's this week. And got the eyelids a few days ago. Very happy! Ill post some pics next week. Any ideas for the next mod to get a bit more grunt?

Nathan

RedMk2Gti

27-09-2007, 08:43 AM

Oneofthegreats

27-09-2007, 03:18 PM

If your car worth $30000, why not just spend another $30 to have a try, I suppose it won't kill your car j:

What to make a bet!

My friend's dad blown senator crapped itself because of a poor quality mapped chip from a leading oz chip tuner that was made to suit the blown setup.

That's an expensive gamble.

Also remember that these chip's from oversea's are not mapped for OZ condition's, altitude, weather, fuel etc.

The_Hawk

27-09-2007, 03:44 PM

mapped??

For $30 your getting a fancy resistor in some packaging, wires attached and some instructions on how to install it.

Basically it causes the stock sensors to read difference which then makes the stock ECU advance your timing add more fuel and air which should gain more power (or something like that).

Shouldn't do any harm, but then do you really want to take the gamble.

DubSteve

27-09-2007, 03:56 PM

It will stuff up your car in the long run, not good to run your car rich!

gtimk5

27-09-2007, 04:15 PM

Any $30 modification to your ECU is dodgy, I think. Correct me if I am wrong, please!!!!
Andrew :)

VW Convert

27-09-2007, 04:37 PM

The old rule of thumb is you get what you pay for.

Cheers

George

gtimk5

27-09-2007, 04:39 PM

The old rule of thumb is you get what you pay for.

Cheers

George

How true that is George! I quite agree. Oh, and buyer beware!!!
Andrew :)

DubSteve

27-09-2007, 04:47 PM

I remember looking at this last year and saw the bad reviews that this atually had, one guy had to rebuild his motor as it was stuffed :(

VW Convert

27-09-2007, 04:49 PM

How true that is George! I quite agree. Oh, and buyer beware!!!
Andrew :)

Or to put it in language no one understands...caveat emptor! j:

Cheers

George

The_Hawk

27-09-2007, 06:18 PM

What about the mk2 chips?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-Jetta-MK2-Cabriolet-Chip-Digifant-8V-GTI-6HP_W0QQitemZ220070875892QQihZ012QQcategoryZ32094Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

Heard good stuff on vwvortex......

That one actually looks like a proper re-mapped chip, so it could be OK... I still question why so cheap...

99gti

01-10-2007, 10:59 AM

I tell ya what - why dont YOU try it and let us know. j:

It's a bit like organising a fight out the back of a pub and saying if I'm not there in 5 - start without me!

shami

01-10-2007, 12:15 PM

I reckon save up and get a real chip from one of the leading brands. APR, GIAC just to name a few.

Dont ask which ones better coz i'll shoot you. Im sure there are a few here that would be more than happy to take you for a spin.

DaveMack

01-10-2007, 12:40 PM

99gti

01-10-2007, 01:00 PM

If your in Vic I'd love nothing more than to show off....errr.. I mean show you! Go the Smurf!!!

static1800

01-10-2007, 08:22 PM

What about the mk2 chips?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-Jetta-MK2-Cabriolet-Chip-Digifant-8V-GTI-6HP_W0QQitemZ220070875892QQihZ012QQcategoryZ32094Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

Heard good stuff on vwvortex......

I have the exact same chip in my mk2, It has made a nice little boost for the price. It has stopped the digi lag as they call it. For $50 to your door you can't go wrong. Not much else you can do to digi 2 unless you go standalone.

nashan

02-10-2007, 04:26 PM

Haha Yeah I am considering it! Im on the Northern beaches in Sydney if has a chip they wanna show off! Im open to options. I def need a bit more grunt. Getting sick of the gutless 1st gear. What would be my price range for a "good" chip. Does anyone know of any good VW performance places around brooky or sydney city somewhere?

Golf Houso

29-11-2007, 03:11 PM

I've researched chips for the mk3 and the prices range from around 75-120 so 50-100 bucks is far from unreasonable, although hardly any of them are suitable for our aussie car cpu's you might have problems finding a chip on that basis.

I'm gonna have a go on one of those mk3 Gl chips for 30 pounds, I'll tell everyone how it goes :)

DubSteve

29-11-2007, 03:45 PM

$800 for the GIAC chip for my vr6! But I get upgrades free I think:?

BL33SU

29-11-2007, 03:56 PM

$800 for the GIAC chip for my vr6! But I get upgrades free I think:?

lol too expensive for the gain u get.

DubSteve

29-11-2007, 04:02 PM

lol too expensive for the gain u get.

I think since I bought it they came down due to the US Dollar, The gain I got was about 14kw at the wheels :D

BL33SU

29-11-2007, 04:17 PM

I think since I bought it they came down due to the US Dollar, The gain I got was about 14kw at the wheels :D

didnt u say u dynoed @ 112kw in canberra

then u got 114 @ mainline..

dont think u got 14kw @ d wheels from the chip.. thats like a turboed car almost. u prob got like 8kw max.

DubSteve

29-11-2007, 04:30 PM

didnt u say u dynoed @ 112kw in canberra

then u got 114 @ mainline..

dont think u got 14kw @ d wheels from the chip.. thats like a turboed car almost. u prob got like 8kw max.

Canberra dyno was a joke if I went there again I would have hit 125kw :confused: 30 year old dyno, its not going to work that good anymore!

So the mainline dyno was the first dyno run. Against a stock vr6 it got 14kw gain at the wheels :)

BL33SU

29-11-2007, 04:36 PM

Canberra dyno was a joke if I went there again I would have hit 125kw :confused: 30 year old dyno, its not going to work that good anymore!

So the mainline dyno was the first dyno run. Against a stock vr6 it got 14kw gain at the wheels :)

but your chip didnt give you 14kw's.. all the other mods added up to 14k'ws @ d wheels. so pretty much the 800 u spent prob gave u half of your gains, maybe even less.

gpk_gti

29-11-2007, 05:27 PM

hey steve,

what kmh load resistance did the dyno have???should say on the bottom on your dyno sheet........

speed(KPH)/Engine Speed[tacho] @ XX KPH/sec UP

whats the XX on your dyno sheet???

and did you do a dyno prior to chip and after chip? or just after all mods+chip??

sorry to post this here... missed your other thread.
if you want,post with a link to your other thread and ill move all this to it.

DubSteve

29-11-2007, 06:33 PM

George my buildup thread has all of the dyno readouts on the last page or second last. Sorry don't have them on me right now. But you can check there. The previous dyno was voided which was the Canberra run, because I can feel a hell of a lot more than 2kws I can tell you that!

but your chip didnt give you 14kw's.. all the other mods added up to 14k'ws @ d wheels. so pretty much the 800 u spent prob gave u half of your gains, maybe even less.

I'm glad you know it was a joke the 14kws ray! The chip help with the other mods! By this I'm saying that against a stock vr6 (now understand STOCK VR6) from that I gained 14kw at the wheels, this was run one after the other!

Golf Houso

30-11-2007, 01:35 PM

you probably got something around 10-15hp and thats got alot to do with the increase in the rev limiter most probably, but 800 for vr6 chip? Thats an awful lot considering nuespeed and other brand chips are no more than 150 or so US. I'm guessing that does have some value as well, but I believe the amount you spent was more labour cost than anything else, so I guess you did alright anyway :D

Here are the instructions for fitting that ebay chip for a mk3, its the same as a VR6 of the same age. The older cars >96 are just a simple removal with a chip removal tool and don't require soldering.

http://www.powerchips-technology.com/Guides/2LGTIChipGuide2.pdf

DubSteve

30-11-2007, 01:56 PM

I would not trust ebay chips! Don't forget the Neuspeed ones are not for Australia, you look at the ones in the US they are so cheap, but they will not fit our cars different codes! I know that Powerchip do it as well and last time I checked in May for one they were asking for $650 with the same sought of power gains! The reason I went for GIAC was because my car would have performed better with the cams and port and polishing!

And its got nothing to do with increasing the rev limiter, they still dyno'd the cars to 6500rpms!

Golf Houso

30-11-2007, 02:48 PM

Fair enough, but as I was doing some reaseach on chips for the mk3's the prices were around the 100 buck mark, and considering these chips were priced at that before it doesn't seem bad. An yeah US dubs are quite different to our own. Well do whatever suits the car, if had gone to the legnth you had with your car I'd have found something that would have suited the mods better and would have paid more.

But it would take me months to save 650 bucks for anything let alone a chip or tuning. Thats why I prefer asthetic and DIY modifications more than anything else, since I just don't earn enough for any modifications let alone purchase another car...

Has the rev limter moved at all? Or is it just the stock one?

DubSteve

30-11-2007, 02:55 PM

But it would take me months to save 650 bucks for anything let alone a chip or tuning. Thats why I prefer asthetic and DIY modifications more than anything else, since I just don't earn enough for any modifications let alone purchase another car...

Has the rev limter moved at all? Or is it just the stock one?

Thats cool dude, I'm going for both and I'm struggling at the moment money tree is dead, need to find a new one :)

As for the rev limiter with a chip it extends it to 7300rpm but its not recommended to hit that every time!

Still I only take it to 6250rpm then change whenever I'm feeling adventurous;)

peedman

30-11-2007, 03:42 PM

Dont forget the stock 2E doesnt make power past 5500 :)

If ur willing to tackle wiring urself an unassembled megasquirt kit is only $250USD and gives u full standalone! After looking around i think this will be the path i go down when i get my money tree sorted :D

rodrocco

30-11-2007, 04:19 PM

There is a guy here in Perth who was involved with a chipping company in the UK that was appointed as the official Volkswagen Racing UK Tuning Partner. He's brought the technology to Australia and started a company in Perth. I'm going to track him down to get more info off him and let you all know.

Golf Houso

30-11-2007, 05:02 PM

Hmnn fair enough, 7300 is quite high too its good to see that you got your money's worth though and you have some degree of self control, unlike some of us: bong (*rev limiter* bounce bounce bounce) j:!

Apparently with most of the chips with the 2.slow, they push the rev limiter to 6500!!! And your absolutely correct mr peed, they stop making power past 5550 or therebouts. But still ... AUS$71, worst case scenario i'll just take it out and put the stocker back in and ebay it back for 50 bucks.

Whats this megasquirt business? Sounds intriguing! The 256' cam continues to taunt me as well, I'll make a thread on it.

And I look forward to what you can find out rocco, I believe it will be of interest to everyone on this forum. ;)

peedman

01-12-2007, 06:55 AM

Megasquirt is a full standalone system except it comes in a kit format so u have to solder the circuit board together. You can buy it pre-assembled but it costs like twice as much, there are heaps of threads on vortex about it.

http://www.megasquirt.info/

Golf Houso

01-12-2007, 01:17 PM

That mega squirt system looks fantastic! Thats realy realy realy realy cool...
Its not the price that bothers me about it though, its the amount of time required to spend on it thats a bit disturbing. I'd go for that if I was rebuilding the engine from scratch or, making some turbo monster but it doesn't seem to do justice for the possible gain over the amount of time its gonna take to build.

I mean mr peed, your going to be modifying cams, and valves and doing head porting so its seems like the best way to maximise power from the motor, and the right way to go ;) The amount of user participation and modification is astonishing I've always dreamt of being to able to manipulate my car's engine just with a computer program and having a laptop stored in car! And this looks like the definate way of doing it. But I'm going to stick with the car as it is, I'd rather just save up for a mk4 GTi or audi A4 Quattro 1.8T and fiddle with that or a holiday to be honest :)

Golf Houso

05-12-2007, 08:21 PM

w00t, got my flea-bay supercheap, I mean SuperChip in the mail! :) From greece no less, I'm gonna get it installed by a tech guy over the weekend. And if all goes well will be fitted back in and by Monday or Tuesday.

I'll keep y'all upated!

Heres a pic of what you get, the chip and the housing for the chip.

gpk_gti

05-12-2007, 08:27 PM

did you get a souvlaki as well???? hahahahhaha

wheres the pic??

Golf Houso

05-12-2007, 08:42 PM

LOLOLOLOL... there was some lamb and garlic sauce in the packet but not much else j:

here is a picture of what you get:

Golf Houso

10-12-2007, 10:32 PM

The chip is being soldered as we speak, It should be back in tommorow arvo if it works that is... Then the flea bay performance goodness shall begin!

DaveMack

10-12-2007, 11:36 PM

The chip is being soldered as we speak, It should be back in tommorow arvo if it works that is... Then the flea bay performance goodness shall begin!

Cross fingers for you, Mate. :D

Dave

Timbo

11-12-2007, 06:43 AM

Should have done a "before" dyno run....It's always informative to understand the exact magnitude of the scam :rolleyes:

Golf Houso

11-12-2007, 02:36 PM

They said 6hp, that isn't much... For $69 I'm realy not expecting much to be honest. The dyno run too is a good idea, but any benefit would be worth it at that price. T minus 4 hours to install!

Yeah i'm keeping my fingers crossed, wish me luck lol...

Timbo

11-12-2007, 05:25 PM

At least you are managing your expectations :D

Golf Houso

11-12-2007, 08:40 PM

Catastrophic fail! :mad:

The car won't start now, it just clicks over and sits there... errggghhhh. Seems the fuel injection won't work at all. :?

I think I should put a little less faith on online shopping and more in my own common sense...

Timbo

11-12-2007, 08:58 PM

Ooops! What a bugger! Well, at least you can console yourself in the knowledge that PT Barnum was an astute observer of mankind. ;)

gpk_gti

11-12-2007, 09:05 PM

arrgghhhh!! looks like they did send you a souvlaki! worth a try tho!! congrats on trying!

Golf Houso

11-12-2007, 09:15 PM

Heck, souvlaki would have been better than what I got j:!

At least I tried, I hope I havn't stuffed something up though, like something expensive. My gut said it wouldn't work although I've learnt one valulable lesson today:

DON'T BOTHER TRYING TO MAKE YOUR 2.0L FASTER BY RELATIVELY CHEAP MEANS, ITS FREAKIN SLOW AND NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT, SO GET USED TO IT OR SAVE UP FOR A FASTER CAR!

...oh and F*** Ebay!

Ahem... who is this ever so knowledgeble person, PT Barum by the way?

Golf Houso

12-12-2007, 06:03 PM

HUZZAH!

All good now, the tech guy missed an arm on the chip. The car's working thankfully.

Now another problem, I noticed that the chip I got looked almost the same as the one I pulled out. So... are they the same thing? Are they different? The rear bumper's off so I can't drive it atm. Curiously the rev limiter has not changed whatsoever and still remains at 5000 rpm.

I'll give it a blast tommorow once I finish with the bumper. At least it works lol... j:

DaveMack

13-12-2007, 12:42 AM

GermanwithaVdub

13-12-2007, 05:02 PM

if the car has 4hp to start with, he might be able to tell :P

Golf Houso

13-12-2007, 08:42 PM

Probably not, If I notice a difference in throttle response or something then yeah that'll probably be the end of it. Oh and the guy can make chips to almost any specification, its a generic programmable chip that VW used and a similar chip can be updated changed and even copied. He told me he can adjust the fuel injection pressure and air/fuel mixtures, rev limiters and a whole bunch more, even psi.

Bigger injectors and a massive throttle body anyone?

Just ask him and he'll do it to your required specification for no extra cost, seems like a cool guy to be honest. 50-70 bucks seems like a pretty good deal for a custome made chip. He didn't move the limiter on mine which was a bit dissapointing but then again I didn't ask ...

rodrocco

15-12-2007, 12:09 PM

The guy in WA is David Abetz and is setting up a website at

www.wasuperchips.com.au

His details are there. He was at the WA VW Show said the biggest effect is on the 2.0 TDi. I grabbed some fliers and I also saw JansJetta talking to him.

He does the change then you drive it for a week. If you like it you pay, if not then he changes it back.

PeterHBne

15-12-2007, 09:40 PM

Hey Golfworx - like your sig - one of my fav car films (Running On Empty) - well, after Mad Max 1 & 2 or course.

First saw it on video back in '86 - quite possibly before you were born and back when a mint Phase 3 could be had for around $35,000 (Grrrrrrrrrr)

I met Deborah Conway at a gig last year and told her I loved the shower scene - she rolled her eyes and said she occasionally cops that from petrol heads!

"I like green - greens nice"

Golf Houso

17-12-2007, 09:43 PM

Not bad. Not a massive difference, but you can feel it after 3000. Not much difference before 2, but after about 3-5 you can realy notice it. The throttle repsonse is better and the car pulls alot better on roads about 70 or more, the pull in third at that speed is realy nice and torquey now.:)

So yeah At first I didn't notice much difference but after I drove it on the highway, up to the city and bit further north. Its nothing like a chipped 1.8T but just see it as an improvement when covering ground quicker, I noticed this when driving paralell to 99_gti's mk4 GTi on the cumberland flogging it in third. :D

The question... was it worth it?:???:
$71 and a bit of a nightmare install? Yes but just. If I would of have had a cam in there the car would have benefitted alot more particularily from an increase in the rpm, pity I never asked for it though.

So yeah Ebay mod chips, not as bad as they make them out to be and this guy is pretty good,

I salute you George Koustis, Mr Souvlaki superchips man!