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REGS12
24-06-2013, 09:34 AM
Have the headlights been improved on the Mk7? They are woeful on my GTD. They have a shadow between high and low beam, as well as just generally weak and poor performance. $3000 should not need to be spent on better lights either.

gldgti
24-06-2013, 05:19 PM
Turn the brightness of your dash lights down :-)

team_v
24-06-2013, 08:39 PM
or some higher output headlight bulbs as opposed to the 2.5k xenon upgrade.

REGS12
21-10-2013, 01:52 PM
Drove home after dark last night in the GTD and almost cleaned up two kangaroos on two separate occasions. Headlights are so poor that I did not see them until they were going past. We don't all live in the suburbs and VW should be ashamed.
I'll probably be getting a mk 7 GTI, as the GTD's been knocked on the head. Will the lights be better? I sure hope so because we have a right to expect cars of this class to have decent headlights fitted as standard, just like cheaper cars do.
While I'm grumpy, I should include inadequate reversing lights in my whinge.
Isn't it a shame that such a great vehicle is tarnished by such an easy fix issue.

GeckoZAO
21-10-2013, 02:31 PM
All I know is the mk7 looks cheap without the bi-xenon...maybe its due to their ads. so I have added it. :) its not only the bi-xenon, also the dynamic cornering lights.

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tonymy01
21-10-2013, 04:11 PM
I guess vw used this to distinguish R from lower offerings in past (I.e R has rear LED and dynamic cornering HID standard).

Adrian_R
21-10-2013, 08:45 PM
Have a look at your current bulbs.

I drove my parent's mk5 Jetta at night recently and thought the lights looked weak. All bulbs were working fine. I pulled out the bulbs and discovered they were really quite black. Replaced them and the difference is night and day (excuse the pun :P)

Mountainman
21-10-2013, 10:49 PM
The lights are the biggest disappointment on my Golf 7. Just really weak, especially high beam. I upgraded the low beams to Narva +120 and it didn't make a difference and I'm told there is no upgrade available for the high beam.

Paul_R
22-10-2013, 05:52 AM
Bi-xenons make a huge difference. Every time I drive my wife's car (not bi-xenon) at night I keep thinking the lights are switched off.

elephino
22-10-2013, 12:10 PM
I upgraded to bi-xenons on my Mk6 after woeful Mk5 headlights (which were made to look worse having moved from brilliant Toyota lights). Haven't looked back since and don't want a car without them.

Only issue I've had is other people flashing at me as they think my lights are on high beam.

Brew69
22-10-2013, 05:35 PM
No matter how bad they are nothing could justify spending 2k on Bi-xenons.

tonymy01
22-10-2013, 05:38 PM
I think they are brilliant. Auto level, steering/cornering, washers, I think they are worth it. When I get into a halogen car now, it seems like it uses candles for lighting :)

Brew69
22-10-2013, 06:00 PM
2k could give you lightforce HID's x 6 which would light up Sydney from Melbourne.

pologti18t
22-10-2013, 06:40 PM
Are your lights aligned correctly and the manual level switch set on 0?
Otherwise... get some Philips Visionplus main beams

nat225
22-10-2013, 08:04 PM
In that case nothing can justify spending more than $20k on a new car given that greatwall, hyunday and kia are available at $12999-$19999 driveaway. Should be good enough to get u from A to B in style ;-)

And nothing should justify spending more than $5 for a meal.


No matter how bad they are nothing could justify spending 2k on Bi-xenons.

Alex31
22-10-2013, 08:10 PM
2k could give you lightforce HID's x 6 which would light up Sydney from Melbourne.

Are we talking about golfs or have I gone on a hilux forum?

nat225
22-10-2013, 08:10 PM
The high beam in mk6 H15 bulb is weak. Plus there is no other option besides the only one from Osram itself.

Dunno what high beam bulbs they use in the mk7... but if they are drl / high beam combo, it is likely to be H15.

The mk5 and prefacelift Tiguan use H7 in both low and high beam; and H7 halogen is designed to give more luminance (1700 lumens) compared to other halogen bulbs (1300-1500 lumens). H7 osram rally gives more than 2000lumens.

HID gives 3500 lumens i think.

Diesel_vert
22-10-2013, 09:39 PM
The high beam in mk6 H15 bulb is weak. Plus there is no other option besides the only one from Osram itself.

Dunno what high beam bulbs they use in the mk7... but if they are drl / high beam combo, it is likely to be H15.

The mk5 and prefacelift Tiguan use H7 in both low and high beam; and H7 halogen is designed to give more luminance (1700 lumens) compared to other halogen bulbs (1300-1500 lumens). H7 osram rally gives more than 2000lumens.

HID gives 3500 lumens i think.

The Golf Mk6 & Mk7 both use a H7 bulb for the dipped beam and a H15 bulb for the main beam.


H15 halogen bulbs have a dual filament; 1350 lumen (55W) for the main beam and 260 lumen (15W) for the DRL.

H7 halogen bulbs have a luminous flux of 1500.

The Osram Rallye [#64217] bulb uses the filament from a typical H9 bulb (2100 lumen) attached to a base of a H7 bulb, thus giving it a luminous flux of 2100.


D*R (reflector) gas-discharge bulbs have a luminous flux of 2800.

D*S (projector) gas-discharge bulbs have a luminous flux of 3200. The Golf Mk6 uses a D1S bulb & the Golf Mk7 uses a D3S bulb.


Unlike the older D1 and D2 bulbs, the newer D3 and D4 bulbs are mercury-free.

All luminous flux figures have a tolerance of +/-10%.





Have the headlights been improved on the Mk7? They are woeful on my GTD. They have a shadow between high and low beam, as well as just generally weak and poor performance.
Are your lights aligned correctly and the manual level switch set on 0?

I would also double-check. Else, consider getting them re-aligned.



Otherwise... get some Philips Visionplus main beams

No can do for the Golf Mk6 & Mk7, but there are plenty of options for the dipped beam (http://www.powerbulbs.com/).

Mountainman
22-10-2013, 10:47 PM
There are plenty of cars around that have halogen lights that are far superior to those on the Golf 7. The standard set up on my brother's 16 year old Camry for example. Or any Commodore or Falcon from the past 20 years. It's hard to understand how VW could get it so wrong. From memory the lights of my Mk1 Golf (I replaced the standard bulbs with H4's) from 35 years ago were better than the ones on my Mk7. In fact every car I've owned since has had better lights. High beam is worse than low beam.

REGS12
23-10-2013, 07:05 AM
Thanks everyone for backing up my opinion of the headlights.
Where will it go from here? Does VW ever note what is said on these forums or do we just grizzle among ourselves.
I believe there is a roadworthiness issue here, but I'm not sure where to take it. Any suggestions?

Diesel_vert
24-10-2013, 02:14 PM
Thanks everyone for backing up my opinion of the headlights.
Where will it go from here? Does VW ever note what is said on these forums or do we just grizzle among ourselves.
I believe there is a roadworthiness issue here, but I'm not sure where to take it. Any suggestions?

Have the headlamps in your car been checked for any alignment issues by a workshop?

Have you tried alternative bulbs? (http://www.powerbulbs.com/)

Mitch89
24-10-2013, 09:16 PM
I believe there is a roadworthiness issue here, but I'm not sure where to take it. Any suggestions?

They aren't the best headlights on the market, but I'd hardly call them a roadworthiness issue.

Baz 55
24-10-2013, 09:31 PM
OK, must be the odd one out here. y Mk7 90TSI lights are fine. Not super bright but I wouldn't complain about them. My wifes car has those fish eye bulbs (are they xenon?) They are about the same.

Lucas_R
20-02-2014, 03:34 PM
The high beam in mk6 H15 bulb is weak. Plus there is no other option besides the only one from Osram itself.

Just bumping this thread with a DRL/High beam (H15) bulb option for the MK6/Mk7 Golf with regular headlights.

I found this French company selling a range of different bulbs for the MK6 (and other VW's), and they have the H15 DRL/High Beam (15/55w) replacement bulb in a 5000k output.

I have ordered a set for my MK6 GTI so ill report back on how they look/fit/perform in a week or two once they arrive from France.

Link to H15 bulb: Pack daytime (DRL) and Hi-beam H15 Xenon effect bulbs for Volkswagen Golf 6 (http://www.ledperf.co.uk/pack-xenon-effects-daytime-drl-and-hibeam-h15-bulbs-for-volkswagen-golf-6-p-5317.html)

Link to all MK6 bulbs: LEDs for Volkswagen Golf 6 (GTD / GTI / TDI / TSI) (http://www.ledperf.co.uk/leds-for-volkswagen-golf-6-gtd-gti-tdi-tsi-=c=-24_220.html)

Link to all Mk7 bulbs: LEDs for Volkswagen Golf 7 (http://www.ledperf.co.uk/leds-for-volkswagen-golf-7-=c=-24_504.html)

Shipping was 9.90 euro and you take the tax off the price for international purchases. The cost for the headlight bulbs and shipping was 51 euros (about $75-80 AUD).

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/

veew
20-02-2014, 10:49 PM
Cheers for the link, it has all the bulbs in the one place

BTW Lucas_R, what bulbs did you choose when you ordered?

veew
24-03-2014, 04:48 PM
I ended up ordering Nightbreaker Unlimited for my H7/H11s and received them in the mail today! I'll get around to putting up some photos before and after. Was tempted to go for Phillips Diamond Vision but decided against it because they're not legal and don't theoretically have a significantly improved light output, they are reported to look more xenon like than the NBUs.

Have you received your kit yet Lucas_R?

Ok so I've fitted the NBUs. They are slightly whiter than standard and appears to be brighter but unfortunately the photos don't show it that well. Whilst driving around the block to get these photos I definitely noticed the fog lamps lighting up corners better when turning into the street. I haven't had a chance to drive in the hills yet to see how much of a difference they make with little street lighting but I suspect it will provide more of an improvement in those conditions.

So the following will be a series of standard, half (standard passenger side/NBU driver side) and full NBUs unless stated otherwise.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison07_zps1c309709-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-07_zps1c309709.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison09_zps5dc5c6c8-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-09_zps5dc5c6c8.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison10_zpseeb1f2a9-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-10_zpseeb1f2a9.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison01_zpsd0f34225-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-01_zpsd0f34225.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison02_zps86378dbd-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-02_zps86378dbd.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison03_zps774994a8-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-03_zps774994a8.jpg.html)

standard:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison12_zps25453265-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-12_zps25453265.jpg.html)
NBU:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison11_zpsfa7ca311-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-11_zpsfa7ca311.jpg.html)

REGS12
28-03-2014, 08:17 PM
Thank goodness that Mk 7 is a definite improvement---------still ordinary though.

veew
28-03-2014, 11:51 PM
I've had a chance to take the car for a spin in the hills at night, it was definitely more confidence inspiring than the last few times with the standard lights.
I didn't take any photos of what they were like before but FWIW this is a shot with the NBUs. I couldn't find a spot to park on the side of the road where the road extended right out in front of me for a considerable distance.


http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison13_zps67ce1241-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-13_zps67ce1241.jpg.html)


I came around one of the corners to see this little critter.


http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison14_zps46b09283-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-14_zps46b09283.jpg.html)

Dutch77
29-03-2014, 08:09 AM
How was installation veew?

Are the hills shots on normal or high beam? May consider this option depending on how I feel the halogens perform.

tigger73
29-03-2014, 08:22 AM
How was installation veew?

Are the hills shots on normal or high beam? May consider this option depending on how I feel the halogens perform.

Ahhhh looking at upgrades even before you've taken delivery ;)

I told you that you wouldn't be able to keep it stock.

Though those bulbs definitely look to be an improvement over the standard halogens.

The only benefit of a yellower light is that it generally performs better on fog.


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Dutch77
29-03-2014, 08:27 AM
Ahhhh looking at upgrades even before you've taken delivery ;)

I told you that you wouldn't be able to keep it stock.

Oh come on, a possible globe change is a far cry from what else you think I might do. :)

To be honest I don't do much night driving, certainly not in the hills, although we do have friends up the freeway so if I'm not happy with the halogens this seems like it has potential. Certainly better than spending $2k for something that would be 99% aesthetics only for someone like myself. If I lived in the hills I'd certainly rethink xenons though.

tigger73
29-03-2014, 08:39 AM
Oh come on, a possible globe change is a far cry from what else you think I might do. :)

To be honest I don't do much night driving, certainly not in the hills, although we do have friends up the freeway so if I'm not happy with the halogens this seems like it has potential. Certainly better than spending $2k for something that would be 99% aesthetics only for someone like myself. If I lived in the hills I'd certainly rethink xenons though.

Hahaha only kidding. I think that $80 on changing bulbs sounds like a much better idea than spending $2k on an option that you're not going to use.

You could even go to Supercheap and buy some red accent strips to run across your headlights if you were really keen.




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Dutch77
29-03-2014, 08:47 AM
Hahaha only kidding. I think that $80 on changing bulbs sounds like a much better idea than spending $2k on an option that you're not going to use.

You could even go to Supercheap and buy some red accent strips to run across your headlights if you were really keen.

:P

Actually I'm not a fan of that red line on the GTIs in the xenon option, I prefer the standard finish! At least on the R and I think the lower models optioned with xenons the line works better because it's not so obvious. I know the xenon people love their line so it really is a subjective thing.

veew
29-03-2014, 11:02 AM
How was installation veew?

Are the hills shots on normal or high beam? May consider this option depending on how I feel the halogens perform.

Installation was really simple, instructions are in the owners manual. I'd suggest finding someone with small hands (child labour works) who is wearing thin rubber gloves to do the low beams, otherwise you'll be there for longer and cussing a fair bit more. Fog lights are a cinch, just turn the wheel to the contralateral side to access the cover more easily.

These shots were with the low beams.
BTW Dutch77, I did find another shot on my phone with a bit more road ahead of me.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/Allcomparison16_zps63ec5e50-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/Allcomparison-16_zps63ec5e50.jpg.html)



The only benefit of a yellower light is that it generally performs better on fog.

It was fine with the fog in some sections of Greenhill Rd that night, I suspect if you ran Phillips Diamond Vision then the fog would reflect much more (glare) with the bluer light, I also wonder what they would be like with heavy rain. Those bulbs are totally blue tinted which cuts out a lot of the yellow light spectrum as well as lumens.

Next time I can't sleep and take it for a spin in the hills, I'll take shots of it with fogs only, low beams +/- fogs and high beams.

In my research leading up to the purchase of the NBUs, I read a tonne of reviews and threads online but mostly from Headlights, Car Lights, Headlight Bulb, Car Bulbs, Car Light Bulbs | PowerBulbs (http://www.powerbulbs.com)
Ended up buying the bulbs from JJCdirectUK:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/251358598881?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/251358598881?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261344944327?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?campid=5336618722&toolid=10001&mpre=http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261344944327?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)

I know many people don't like running HIDs with halogen reflectors but I did stumble across this thread a little while back which doesn't look too bad. I think it depends on the reflector design (but still they're not designed for HIDs) but looking at the Mk7 light cutoffs, the results may not be as bad as we would all expect. Check out Santos' post #157:
VWVortex.com - USP Presents RFB Lighting: HID Conversion Kits/Bulbs/Accessories and LEDs (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5073408-USP-Presents-RFB-Lighting-HID-Conversion-Kits-Bulbs-Accessories-and-LEDs/page5)
Still it would not be anything as good as proper HID projector lights where the lighting is even, with no heat spots, below a distinct cutoff.


Btw the Phillips DV do look nice but I'm not keen on potentially more glare when there is fog/rain, not that we get a tonne of that in Adelaide. The guy who took this pic is from Norway which would have snow, sleet etc, he hasn't mentioned how the lights perform in those conditions yet so I'd be keen to hear what he says.

Dutch77
30-03-2014, 08:13 AM
Thanks for that veew, be interested to hear your follow up comments. Definitely something I'll be considering.. although my child labour source is only a couple of months old so might need to wait a while. :)

veew
02-04-2014, 06:33 PM
As per the latest post: Upgrade bulbs - Page 2 - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum (http://golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279&page=2)

"Mk7norway" said the Phillips DV works well in all conditions.

pologti18t
04-04-2014, 06:00 PM
Has this been posted?
Car bulbs: 2013 group test & headlight reviews | Auto Express (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/76760/car-bulbs-2013-group-test-headlight-reviews)
Best headlamp bulb: Product Awards 2012 | Auto Express (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/35834/best-headlamp-bulb)
Tested: Blue bulbs | Products | Auto Express (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/44959/tested-blue-bulbs)

Dutch77
04-04-2014, 08:07 PM
As per the latest post: Upgrade bulbs - Page 2 - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum (http://golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279&page=2)

"Mk7norway" said the Phillips DV works well in all conditions.

I like the look of the Phillips but the legality issue rules them out for me, can't be bothered with any hassles down the track (or an excuse for an insurance company to play silly buggers on a claim in a worst case scenario).

I guess I'll see how the standards go and take it from there, or if you make a meet check yours out.

pologti18t
04-04-2014, 09:59 PM
I like the look of the Phillips but the legality issue rules them out for me, c

You need these
BlueVision ultra (http://www.bluevisionultra.com/) These are EU approved

veew
04-04-2014, 10:22 PM
I hadn't posted them but have seen those reviews. The NBUs missed out for the 2013 test, I'd be keen to see how they go in the 2014 test. What lights are you running pologti18t?

pologti18t
04-04-2014, 10:41 PM
I hadn't posted them but have seen those reviews. The NBUs missed out for the 2013 test, I'd be keen to see how they go in the 2014 test. What lights are you running pologti18t?

Philips Xtreme Vision. I've used those and the older Visionplus over the last 10yrs. I don't bother with blue tinted lights... it only reduces output and makes driving in rain etc worse.

nat225
04-04-2014, 10:50 PM
+1

Blue tinted halogen bulbs just dont work as good as clear bulbs.

It is good to look at (if u care about how you see your headlight colour) but wont help you to look out better! Being able to see wild animals crossing the road at night is more important!

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Polo_6R
05-04-2014, 11:48 AM
Perhaps a retrofit could solve your problems. People will bang on about the legal side and you need this and that. But a well sorted retrofit with quality projectors mounted propley with shrouds and good bi xenons can be done correctly.

Have a look on Facebook for micks projector retrofits


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pologti18t
06-04-2014, 01:05 PM
Have a look on Facebook for micks projector retrofits


The Retrofit Source Inc (http://www.theretrofitsource.com/)

Polo_6R
06-04-2014, 04:11 PM
Micks projector retrofits is a local service in newcastle.

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singlespeed
09-05-2014, 04:02 PM
Does anyone know if the OEM bi-xenon headlights are plug and play physically into a standard HL Golf? I know the computer will require programming. I'm not sure VW will touch it though because don't the HIDs need a headlight washer to be ADR compliant? I know the enter HID headlight can be purchased but I'm not sure if any modification is required to fit them.

Dutch77
09-05-2014, 04:10 PM
Does anyone know if the OEM bi-xenon headlights are plug and play physically into a standard HL Golf? I know the computer will require programming. I'm not sure VW will touch it though because don't the HIDs need a headlight washer to be ADR compliant? I know the enter HID headlight can be purchased but I'm not sure if any modification is required to fit them.

Yes you are correct - will require the washer to be compliant.

I don't know how easy it is to get your hands on OEM bi-xenon units; there are aftermarket shops selling them but I believe they're all for LHD vehicles.

I know there was a thread on a Mk6 retrofit a while back on here, to do it properly it was very time consuming and quiet expensive (ie. more than the option cost).

I'd be looking at a bulb upgrade to improve the light output.

singlespeed
09-05-2014, 04:53 PM
Yes you are correct - will require the washer to be compliant.

I don't know how easy it is to get your hands on OEM bi-xenon units; there are aftermarket shops selling them but I believe they're all for LHD vehicles.

I know there was a thread on a Mk6 retrofit a while back on here, to do it properly it was very time consuming and quiet expensive (ie. more than the option cost).

I'd be looking at a bulb upgrade to improve the light output.

carsystems.eu (http://www.carsystems.pl) sells the mk7 OEM RHD bi-xenon, would be about $2700 shipped! I don't care about the headlight washers, but I would want then to be 100% plug and play. It's obvious how modular VW has made their platforms now, even the ballast is mounted in the headlight housing, physically everything is a direct swap, I'm just not sure about the H4 connection to the light cluster.


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pologti18t
11-05-2014, 02:04 PM
This is interesting

Xenon for everyone | carlightblog (http://www.carlightblog.com/2012/02/14/xenon-for-everyone/)

Dutch77
11-05-2014, 03:03 PM
^ will be interesting to see if these can make it into a retrofit headlight unit down the track that wouldn't require the wash kit and therefore make it a cost effective option, dependent on actual lighting performance. Particularly if they can do a version without a red line.

spikeyboy22
26-05-2014, 10:34 PM
Hey guys,

I have watched with a lot of interest the talk on if the second Inner U on Xenons can be turned on like a golf R, I had given up then on car sales I find a dealer car that has Xenons with a second U, it is a dealer car so I don't think a dealer has swapped Golf R headlights ..

Or was it a factory mistake ..

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/05/Headlights_zps756737fd-1.jpg (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/Spikeyboy22/media/Headlights_zps756737fd.jpg.html)

Or do we not give up hope...

kennyc
26-05-2014, 11:38 PM
When I found out the second U is "fake" it did kind of anger me because we paid a lot of money for what is now half a set of Xenon lights.
Having said that I still prefer them over the halogen lights.

Jimi
27-05-2014, 12:02 AM
I'm not sure the inner U in that picture is on. It could just be the ambient light

spikeyboy22
27-05-2014, 12:14 AM
I'm not sure the inner U in that picture is on. It could just be the ambient light

It is on check the other pics

2013 Volkswagen Golf 7 110TDI Highline MY14 Direct-Shift Gearbox (http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Volkswagen-Golf-2013/AGC-AD-15894291/?Cr=21&sdmvc=1)

wasabiz
27-05-2014, 02:27 AM
I think that's just the reflections off the sun. It is pretty much the same hardware except the R has the LED lights on the back while the rest don't

n0d3
27-05-2014, 10:19 AM
I posted this before somwhere, Golf7forums states that it's just an empty tube with no hardware inside. Only the R has additional lights.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/mk7-golf-gti-discussion-thread-85524-187.html?highlight=#post1050685

GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum - View Single Post - Golf R DRL's - is it possible (http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11511&postcount=10)

Most likely just the light reflection in the pics.

singlespeed
27-05-2014, 01:11 PM
I'm still tempted to order the OEM bi-xenon headlights from Europe (RHD specific), but I can't determine the amount of work it'll take to fit them. I know physically they're plug and play. What I don't know is if VCDS can sort them out. I don't want dashboard errors.


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han7682
29-05-2014, 12:05 AM
Hi

One of my friend just bought GTI.
I gave him a Huge prensent.
It was UU lights like R light.
It took an hour to install.
It is not R light but R style UU light
Here we go

n0d3
29-05-2014, 12:30 AM
What's that "mk7 performance' thingy? Watermark?

han7682
29-05-2014, 12:38 AM
I think so...It was hard to take a picture with mobile.

team_v
29-05-2014, 06:23 AM
Weird.
All the pictures seem to have the silver line through the light and grill so i would say these are just pictures of the Mk7 R..........

Jimi
29-05-2014, 08:10 AM
That's just an R. The grille in one of the pics gives it away. The GTI has black strakes...

armthehomeless
29-05-2014, 09:58 AM
LOL. I want what that guy's on

n0d3
29-05-2014, 04:54 PM
I think he's just clocking up posts or something lol.

han7682
29-05-2014, 10:29 PM
Ok
Let me tell you guys truth
Yes I've installed R style UU lights for my friend's GTI.
But I wasn't really happy with pictures so I posted with photo which taken by my another friend from overseas.
Here are some pictures from my moblie.

Yes it is R style UU lights juct came out to Australia

AJW
30-05-2014, 07:49 AM
Ok so how did you do it?
What type of LED strip did you use and how was it mounted?
How did you get access to the back of the headlight?
Where did you wire it into the headlight harness?
I was going to do this also to my GTI next year when it gets delivered so I'm interested to hear what you did.

han7682
30-05-2014, 12:50 PM
One of my friend in overseas built up Kit for this job.
And I've installed it on GTI.
It is 'LEDs on metalic circuit board' for both side and some wires.

DP Vic
30-05-2014, 06:17 PM
One of my friend in overseas built up Kit for this job.
And I've installed it on GTI.
It is 'LEDs on metalic circuit board' for both side and some wires.

Where can I buy this from? :)

han7682
30-05-2014, 11:25 PM
I can do that for you but only in Sydney

tomcat225
05-06-2014, 12:54 PM
There is a heap of these lights popping up in Aliexpress, be interesting to see what come out in the next 12 months or so..
Some pics in this add if you scroll down.. indicators looks funny imo

Free shipping 2014 VW Volkswagen Golf 7 headlight assembly LED HID headlight headlamps HID Hernia lamp auto accessory 2pcs/set-in Lights & Indicators from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-2014-VW-Volkswagen-Golf-7-headlight-LED-HID-headlight-car-headlamps-HID-Hernia-lamp/1894049532.html)

han7682
05-06-2014, 05:13 PM
No its different.
I just stick on LED bar and board in original light. So it doesn't cost that much.

tomcat225
06-06-2014, 03:01 PM
No its different.
I just stick on LED bar and board in original light. So it doesn't cost that much.

Can you explain some more how you went about doing this ?? So you pulled the original light apart ? :/

han7682
06-06-2014, 03:18 PM
One of my friends built up LED bars on metal board to put in original light.
It doesn't need to make hole, replace with somethings or cording. Just connect & play.

boardie_19
19-06-2014, 10:48 PM
Hoping someone can help.

How do the bi-xenon headlight washers work on the Golf? I previously owned a Mini and the washer function would occur when you held the windscreen stalk towards you for a period of 3+ seconds in conjunction with cleaning the windscreen. I have tried this, the windscreen washers work but nothing on the headlights.

Is there a button hiding or is there a setting in the main display I need to select? Just hoping it's not a fault.

Thanks in advance!

booba
19-06-2014, 11:10 PM
they will wash on the first wash upon start of vehicle then every 5 washes there after.. count resets when vehicle is restarted. you can adjust this 5 number of washes with vcds.

TJG
19-06-2014, 11:45 PM
As booba said every 5th wash but on my Mk7 R they will only activate if the headlights are turned on. On my Mk6 R they activated every 5th wash regardless.

boardie_19
20-06-2014, 02:04 PM
Thanks for this.

I have attempted to use the windscreen washers upon vehicle start up... nothing. In saying this, with lights always in the 'auto' position, it was daytime, with only running lights on... perhaps it does only work when the physical lights are on.

I will give it another go and see what happens! :banana:

TJG
20-06-2014, 05:46 PM
Yes - the headlights have to be actually on. I had a headlight washer repaired and it took me quite a while to figure out how to test it - Thought it would be like the Mk6 - but it's not.

boardie_19
20-06-2014, 07:22 PM
... Just checked my 2014 Golf 103TSI Highline | DSG | Limestone Grey Metallic | Leather | Sunroof | Bi-Xenons | Alarm | Tints... and to my surprise it has two U lamps. Both lamps light up also.

Our vehicle was accidentally fitted with the high beam assist feature that is not available in the Australian market. Sales guy only realised when he was showing us the thru the vehicle upon delivery. Their loss is our gain! :banana:

godzilla_110TDI
20-06-2014, 07:45 PM
^^ Pics or it didn't happen

boardie_19
20-06-2014, 08:49 PM
what???

veew
20-06-2014, 10:00 PM
... Just checked my 2014 Golf 103TSI Highline | DSG | Limestone Grey Metallic | Leather | Sunroof | Bi-Xenons | Alarm | Tints... and to my surprise it has two U lamps. Both lamps light up also.

Our vehicle was accidentally fitted with the high beam assist feature that is not available in the Australian market. Sales guy only realised when he was showing us the thru the vehicle upon delivery. Their loss is our gain! :banana:

I'm sure everyone else on the forum also wants to see plenty of picks of your unicorn golf! Preferably as many of the headlights as possible.

boardie_19
20-06-2014, 10:04 PM
The U lamps light up, one at a time... if this is what you are referring to. One during the day and then one at night when the auto function kicks in.

Brendan_A
20-06-2014, 10:18 PM
^^ Pics or it didn't happen

What he said. I find it hard to believe your highline would have Golf R style headlight clusters.

boardie_19
20-06-2014, 10:22 PM
When the headlights are on at night, it looks like both lamps are lit up. I'm no expert believe me...

Just googled what an 'R' headlights look like... it doesn't look like that.

pologti18t
21-06-2014, 01:43 PM
Do they look like this?
10426

boardie_19
21-06-2014, 02:18 PM
pologti19t,

From a distance yeah... but only one U in the day... my bad. At night it looks like all of the headlamp assembly lights up.

veew
03-07-2014, 02:37 PM
Go to http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/aftermarket-bixenon-headlight-information-gb-winpower-lamps-98267.html ​for the Group Buy thread. Old information below.

Some guys from Brazil ordered some WinPower xenon headlights for their cars which look good and are reportedly easy to fit. These headlights do not however, from what I understand, have the full headlight self-levelling hardware that would come with genuine units (or those ordered from Kufatec web, refer to post 9: Xenon Lights + LED DRL retrofit - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum (http://golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2223)). The Kufatec headights and all the other accessories end up costing way more than factory optioned xenons, the WinPower lamps cost way less.

Clarification: The contact at WP lamps state they are self-levelling but don't have active corner assist functions. (I reckon these aren't self levelling as I've seen the additional parts required for OEM-like installation of xenons on Mk6 Golfs, still you will be able to adjust the light beam from inside the car and under the bonnet).

If you go to this thread (Xenon Lights + LED DRL retrofit - Page 2 - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum (http://golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2223&page=2)) you'll see the WP headlights from post 21.
The kits have the RHD cutoffs, will come with all the connections and are plug and play. From what I understand (from the GolfMk7 guys who installed these lights) VCDS is required to keep the "U" lights on with the low beam headlights.

There are 3 versions but they can only do V2 and GTi for RHD markets.
V1 (R replicas) info: VW Golf R MK7 LED Headlight V1 -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- 产“•示 -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website (http://www.wplamps.com/Showprot.aspx?id=385)
V2 (Highline replicas) info: VW Golf 7 OEM LED headlight V2 -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- 产“•示 -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website (http://www.wplamps.com/Showprot.aspx?id=386)
GTi Replicas: VW golf MK7 GIT version headlight -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- 产“•示 -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website (http://www.wplamps.com/Showprot.aspx?id=388)

Videos of the different versions:
This is a video for V1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8QHwdeD6lE
They sent me this link for V2: http://en.mail.qq.com/cgi-bin/ftnExs_download?k=7033393199bd11cc68805b9f17610a18 5c550d0308075d0e14015c02544c0c015c04145350510a1a0f 500b075351080200050f5231753850565f5f1106414e524b40 505e5f410a19747c6f310c&t=exs_ftn_download&code=93911a87 (if this link doesn't work, I'll upload the video I downloaded)
This is also V2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbkoghAuwGE

In the picture below, the V2 xenon is bi-xenon with a H7 halogen highbeam for the inner headlight. In the first 12 seconds of the first V2 video, you can see light distribution on the glass encasing the xenon and fingerprints on the headlight casing change with the activation of the halogen high beam. Therefore low beam is xenon only and high beam xenon supplemented by the H7 halogen. Both U's light up in the first V2 video.
HOWEVER
In the 2nd V2 video, the headlights appear to function exactly like OEM Highline and GTi bixenons (ie. Only one U lights up). I'm in the process of clarifying this with Mark so will update once I find out. I suspect the V2s will function exactly like OEM Highline and GTi xenons so please take this into consideration when buying. It would be better to expect only one to light up and end up with both working rather than vice versa.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/WPV2GOlf7_zpsd41b7b90png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/WPV2GOlf7_zpsd41b7b90.png.html)


Screenshots from the first V2 video:
V2 DRLs only
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2DRLsonly_zpsc939a6e3png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2DRLsonly_zpsc939a6e3.png.html)
V2 DRLs and xenon low beam
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2DRLsandlowbeamprojector_zpse733e847png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2DRLsandlowbeamprojector_zpse733e847.png.html)
V2 DRLs and xenon low beam + (?) parking indicator setting
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2DRLslowbeamprojectorampindicator_zpsa3-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2DRLslowbeamprojectorampindicator_zpsa3e55c3c.png .html)
V2 DRLs, xenon high beam, halogen high beam + (?) parking indicator setting
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2DRLsindicatorandparkinglight_zps549e8a-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2DRLsindicatorandparkinglight_zps549e8a84.png.htm l)
V2 xenon only
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2Projectoronly_zpsf5f7164bpng-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2Projectoronly_zpsf5f7164b.png.html)
V2 indicator only
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2indicatoronlhy_zps0c526385png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2indicatoronlhy_zps0c526385.png.html)

Light output for LHD V1s:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/photo3_zpsa0ae221d-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/photo-3_zpsa0ae221d.jpg.html)

Installation:
Apparently the installation of the headlights is pretty easy. Removal of the central grill and removal of the bolts that hold the side of the front bumper in place. The front bumper does not need to be completely removed from the car for the installation.

Solvalou's description outlining what he is referring to in the first video link below:
"The installation is very easy. If you watched my video Ill try to explain some stuff I said in the video.
Bumper and front grill uses Torx T25 screws. The headlight uses Torx T30 screws. There are also 2 M10 10mm screws that need to be removed inside the bumper so you can unsnap the side of the bumper.

First I show in the video 4 screws you need to remove from inside the wheel compartment. Then there are 2 more underneath the bumper. After that you need to unscrew 2 more screws on the front grill. After that you need to pull the front grill towards your direction to unsnap it from that other plastic plastic behind it. The main lock is located near that hole that I show in the video. When you unsnap it and the front grill is loose, you need to move it up to disconnect it from the bumper.

There are 4 screws on the headlight. I show them on the video. One I couldn't show because the front grill was blocking it and also there is a side one that the bumper was blocking. The one at the back of the headlight that is deeper inside you don't need to remove completely, just unscrew it a little bit and you will be able to slide the headlight out. Also remember that even after removing all the headlight screws you need to pull the bumper a little bit toward the front of the car because there are some hooks at the front of the headlight underneath the bumper holding it in place. After you pulled the bumper you need to move the headlight a little bit up to free up the hooks so you can slide it out. Remember also to remove the main headlight harness cable before you pull it out.

You just need to do everything in inverses order to install the new headlight."

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/2n8yo41_zpsb6dae8e1-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/2n8yo41_zpsb6dae8e1.jpg.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/2lxcdxs-1.jpg

Solvalou's Youtube videos all in Portugese.
1) This shows you what bolts need to be removed (just follow which bolts he indicates by looking at his pen torch light). Jump to 8:30 to see him turn on the car and see the headlights in action. Unfortunately the light output isn't displayed that well here, I will be posting more videos of this as I get them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tQWJhOj-cQ

2) Adjusting headlight aim. I can't really follow it so only really helpful if you speak Portugese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ps2bSOLr78
AND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyqNTybnhjM


LuanF's V1 videos:
External - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V67IEZo7q18 (read description regarding DRL brightness)
Light performance low & high beam - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6H9qF72jsQ

Pricing:
GB pricing would be $US385/set, they are usually $US545 a set.

Minimum Group Buy numbers:
Either 20 sets of V2 headlights
OR
10x V2 and 10x GTi

EOIs so far:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/aftermarket-bixenon-headlight-information-gb-winpower-lamps-98267.html

booba
04-07-2014, 07:41 AM
Bi Xenon are a must imo.

couchmotorist
05-07-2014, 03:36 PM
I think they're just like the standard xenon headlights then, unless you're suggesting both "U" things light up like the R xenons. Best to just put up pictures and that'll clear everything up.

Anyway, I had posted in the "What Accessories are you buying for your MK7 Golf? (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/what-accessories-you-buying-your-mk7-golf-96165-11.html)" thread about these but thought it would be best to put them here too, would be good to see if people are interested to eventually do a group buy. I'm in no rush at the moment but may consider it down the track.

Essentially some guys from Brazil ordered some WinPower xenon headlights for their cars which look good and are reportedly easy to fit. These headlights do not however, from what I understand, have the full headlight self-levelling hardware that would come with genuine units (or those ordered from Kufatec web, refer to post 9: Xenon Lights + LED DRL retrofit - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum (http://golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2223)). The Kufatec headights and all the other accessories end up costing way more than factory optioned xenons, the WinPower lamps cost way less. Clarification: The contact at WP lamps state they are self-levelling but don't have active corner assist functions.

If you go to this thread (Xenon Lights + LED DRL retrofit - Page 2 - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum (http://golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2223&page=2)) you'll see the WP headlights from post 21.
These brazilian guys did a group buy and were able to get them for pretty decent prices. I enquired through the website (with prompt replies from Mark) who told me they can do RHD versions, which essentially means installing the correct cutoff. Everything else remains the same. The kits come with all the connections and should be plug and play. From what I understand (from the GolfMk7 guys who installed these lights) VCDS is required to keep the "U" lights on with the low beam headlights (?).

There are 2 versions but they can only do V2 for RHD markets (for orders of 20 or more).
V1 (R rep) info: VW Golf R MK7 LED Headlight V1 -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- 产“•示 -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website (http://www.wplamps.com/Showprot.aspx?id=385)
V2 (GTi rep) info: VW Golf 7 OEM LED headlight V2 -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- 产“•示 -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website (http://www.wplamps.com/Showprot.aspx?id=386)

The V1 xenons are apparently low beam only (according post 33, luanf on GolfMk7 thread) and high beam are the solely inner halogen lights.

In the V2 description it states "High low beam is projector, high beam is halogen bulb only. DRL Two "U" bright, LED one "U" bright, halogen turning light". I asked Mark what they meant by the 2 "U" bright and one LED "U", they stated that both U's have a DRL function where they are on 50% intensity, only one of them has the ability to illuminate to 100%. In the video of the V2 unit, it appears both U's appear equally bright so I'm not sure what they mean by one being LED.

This is a video for V1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8QHwdeD6lE
They sent me this link for V2: http://en.mail.qq.com/cgi-bin/ftnExs_download?k=7033393199bd11cc68805b9f17610a18 5c550d0308075d0e14015c02544c0c015c04145350510a1a0f 500b075351080200050f5231753850565f5f1106414e524b40 505e5f410a19747c6f310c&t=exs_ftn_download&code=93911a87 (if this link doesn't work, I'll upload the video I downloaded)

Clarification: As per the picture, the V2 xenon is claimed to be bi-xenon with a H7 halogen highbeam for the inner headlight. Both U's are shown to be LED. In the first 12 seconds of the V2 video, you can see light distribution on the glass encasing the xenon and fingerprints on the headlight casing change with the activation of the halogen high beam. Therefore low beam is xenon and high beam is both halogen and xenon.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/WPV2GOlf7_zpsd41b7b90png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/WPV2GOlf7_zpsd41b7b90.png.html)

Screenshots from the V2 video:
V2 DRLs only
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2DRLsonly_zpsc939a6e3png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2DRLsonly_zpsc939a6e3.png.html)
V2 DRLs and xenon low beam
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2DRLsandlowbeamprojector_zpse733e847png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2DRLsandlowbeamprojector_zpse733e847.png.html)
V2 DRLs and xenon low beam + (?) parking indicator setting
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2DRLslowbeamprojectorampindicator_zpsa3-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2DRLslowbeamprojectorampindicator_zpsa3e55c3c.png .html)
V2 DRLs, xenon high beam, halogen high beam + (?) parking indicator setting
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2DRLsindicatorandparkinglight_zps549e8a-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2DRLsindicatorandparkinglight_zps549e8a84.png.htm l)
V2 xenon only
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2Projectoronly_zpsf5f7164bpng-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2Projectoronly_zpsf5f7164b.png.html)
V2 indicator only
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/V2indicatoronlhy_zps0c526385png-1.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/trangandrew/media/Headlights/V2indicatoronlhy_zps0c526385.png.html)

Pricing:
GB pricing would be $US385/set, they are usually $US545 a set.

I'm currently clarifying a few other details: If the price mentioned included P&H...

Anyway, I'm also chasing up the forum members on the GolfMk7 website that installed their headlights to see if anyone did a step by step DIY, more pictures of the light output and to see how their headlights progress over the next few months.

Has anyone put their hand up for these yet? "veew" how are you looking for numbers at this stage? I'm very keen to jump on board, specifically for the GTI version with the red strip. Personally I think V2 is preferable because it looks closest to OEM. V1 has two projector lamps and without the extra lamp poking out the side, behind the main beam halogen bulb.

mgrobins
05-07-2014, 05:22 PM
So what is the consensus for the OSRAM Night Breaker Halogens (H7 bulb for low/dipped beam) compared to the stock light?

I find the standard light to be quite dim. Also seems quite yellow. What are the OEM bulb specs?

I don't use high beam too often due to issues of oncoming traffic on the darker roads I drive so a solid low beam bulb is what I'm after.

kamold
05-07-2014, 05:31 PM
Nightbreaker or Philips Extreme Power are worthwhile upgrades imho. They do make a difference. Not like HID of course but the best you can legally do to stock halogens.

veew
05-07-2014, 06:22 PM
So what is the consensus for the OSRAM Night Breaker Halogens (H7 bulb for low/dipped beam) compared to the stock light?

I find the standard light to be quite dim. Also seems quite yellow. What are the OEM bulb specs?

I don't use high beam too often due to issues of oncoming traffic on the darker roads I drive so a solid low beam bulb is what I'm after.

My experiences are documented on page 3: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/headlights-87200-3.html

There is an improvement as Kamold stated but certainly nothing comes close to xenons.

I'm currently collecting more information about the aftermarket WP lamp bixenon headlights such as pictures and videos of their light output, I will post them up when I get them. In the meantime, for those interested in a potential GB, please express it in this thread. If we have 20 EOIs then I'll start up a formal GB.

mgrobins
05-07-2014, 07:47 PM
Depending on the degree of improvement I would be interested. I don't drive as far afield of the city as some here so it's more of a 'want' than 'need' :). Especially if the Halogen upgrade actually helps enough.

tomcat225
05-07-2014, 08:36 PM
Interested if I don't have to take the bumper off lol

siu_loong_bao
05-07-2014, 09:29 PM
I am looking to change my factory HID globes to a more whiter appearance, maybe something in either 6000k or 8000k. Can anyone confirm if the Mark 7 R uses D3S globes and if any error codes will appear by doing this? Thanks in advance.

veew
05-07-2014, 09:30 PM
Interested if I don't have to take the bumper off lol

Mate you don't have to remove it from the car: Removing front bumper - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum (http://golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4478)

Also I've added more details, pics and video links to post 88.

mgrobins
06-07-2014, 12:43 AM
I'll get myself a set of the H7 Night Breakers for regular night time driving. They should be whiter at 4k than the stock candles I hope!

Followed Veew's steps and bought from JJCDirect in the UK which is about $15 cheaper than the Australian ebay sellers.

Looking at my manual I guess the bulbs are a twist out removal and simply lock back in (I've only ordered the H7s for low beam).

tomcat225
06-07-2014, 09:00 AM
Also I've added more details, pics and video links to post 88.

Great work veew that's awesome info and price sounds great too


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Flipper
06-07-2014, 05:39 PM
I'm currently collecting more information about the aftermarket WP lamp bixenon headlights such as pictures and videos of their light output, I will post them up when I get them. In the meantime, for those interested in a potential GB, please express it in this thread. If we have 20 EOIs then I'll start up a formal GB.
I'm interested in a set to suit a GTI, the headlights are the only real issue I have with the car it doesn't help coming from my last car with active headlights.
If anyone is looking for Osram Night Breakers Powerbulbs.com have them on special for $30 delivered.

point
06-07-2014, 06:40 PM
Hey guys,

I'm also very interested in a set of replica Xenons for my comfortline as the stock headlights dont cut it. Count me in 100% for a group buy.

mui_michael
07-07-2014, 07:19 PM
I'm 100% in for the front headlights, I'm also interested in the L.E.D. tail lights conversion too.

point
07-07-2014, 08:28 PM
Has anyone priced LED tail light conversions? I haven't spotted any replicas but surely someone's made replica MK7 LED tails...

01_GOLF
07-07-2014, 10:05 PM
Hey mate just made my account, and I'm still keen to get some of these lights! I'll bookmark this thread to keep an eye on how everything goes

veew
08-07-2014, 01:04 AM
Just updated the installation section which is useful when watching the referenced video. Cleaned up the thread a bit as I was exceeding the word count, wanted to keep everything in the one post.


Has anyone priced LED tail light conversions? I haven't spotted any replicas but surely someone's made replica MK7 LED tails...

I haven't seen reps yet but follow this thread for installation when you get around to it.

Fitting the GTI LED tail lights on Highline - retrofit. - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum (http://golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2552)

point
08-07-2014, 03:13 AM
It's good to see the numbers for the GB so far. The installation also doesn't seem too difficult either.

I we should do a new thread dedicated to the group buy for exposure etc?

veew
08-07-2014, 10:09 AM
I've PM'd all the relevant people who were looking at ways to improve headlights over the VWW, VWGolf and Mk7Golf forums, I don't think having a separate forum would be necessary. I'm still waiting on some more details regarding these headlights as there is some conflicting information (eg. Why there are the differences between the number of illuminated DRL U's in the two V2 videos). I still want to get more pictures or videos of the performance of these WP lamps from those who've installed these, it would be tragic if we organised a GB and ended up wasting a few hundred bucks.

I'll post up a separate GB thread when we have nailed down all the fine details and have close to adequate numbers. Any additional EOIs should go through that.

Jazrod
08-07-2014, 10:43 PM
Hey Andrew. As per your request, here is my official EOI.

Keen on V2 (non GTI) with 5000k xenons.

veew
09-07-2014, 02:06 AM
Cheers mate, I have been in close contact with 2 of the Brazilian guys who have been a wealth of information. I've joined the Brazilian forum and have collected more pictures and videos of their installation and results. I'm still nutting out the final fine details with WPlamps contact Mark. I will have a new thread about WPlamps that will lead onto the GB but in the meantime I will continue to update post 88 in this thread.

For those interested in going through the Brazilian forum Entrar - forum.VWGolfClub.com (http://www.vwgolfclub.com). Use Google Translate to translate their site, it works quite well. Go to Forums --> Aesthetic changes (under Mec a nica which should translate to mechanical) --> Lighthouse replica MK7 Golf (Group Buy). The pages worth looking at are 1, 6, 7, 8 and 9.

Edit:
The formal EOI and GB page is up: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/aftermarket-bixenon-headlight-information-gb-winpower-lamps-98267.html#post1069636

Also for those who have already placed an EOI, just confirm which version and bulb temperature. For those with GTi's I assumed you would want the GTi version but I'd like you to confirm that is the case.

mui_michael
09-07-2014, 02:29 PM
100% in for GTi: VW golf MK7 GTI version headlight with 5000k bulbs

flashman1207
18-07-2014, 01:37 PM
Have a MK7 Comfortline. When I turn right (90degree at T-Junction for example) at night there is almost no light coverage to the right of the vehicle and its really hard to see things like bollards and islands. First of all I thought it was just me but my wife says the same thing. I do not have this problem with my Magna or old Nissan GQ Patrol.

Anyone else have this problem and what is the solution. I dont think a brighter bulb will make much difference as its must be a reflector issue. I tried using the 'level adjuster' to the right of the steering when but it makes it worse...

Eaglehawk
18-07-2014, 01:52 PM
Your cornering lights don't turn on? Or you're going faster than 50km/h? :)

Edit: I'm not sure of the exact speed...

Kesh
18-07-2014, 04:01 PM
Your cornering lights don't turn on? Or you're going faster than 50km/h? :)

Edit: I'm not sure of the exact speed...

EDIT: I was wrong! Sorry!



The non bi-xenon lights on the mk7 are horrid, I think mk6 owners have shared a similar sentiment on the mk6 halogens too. I have the same issue as you, when I turn right from my street, it barely lights up anything on that side. I think a brighter bulb could help, but I think the root cause of it is the design of the reflectors unfortunately.

BFPO40
18-07-2014, 06:14 PM
Static cornering lights are featured on Mk7's with and without Xenons, if your car has fogs lights, the static cornering lights are in the fog light assembly.

The Xenon Mk7s also have dynamic cornering unless it is a lower specced Xenon (non-LED).

I suspect the comfortline may not have fog lights - so no static cornering lights.

Also, if your car has driver profile or DCC, setting it to Eco mode will disable both dynamic cornering lights (Bi-Xenon) and static cornering lights (Bi-Xenon & Halogen).

For Golfs with both static and dynamic cornering (Bi-Xenon) static functions below 50-60kmh and dynamic cornering above 50-60, can not remember the speed but somewhere around there.

Hillbilly
18-07-2014, 09:32 PM
Yours are probably different but Im pretty sure I have to have the indicators going to have the cornering lights on

BFPO40
18-07-2014, 10:02 PM
Yours are probably different but Im pretty sure I have to have the indicators going to have the cornering lights on

My first Mk7 Golf was an Australian market Highline with Bi-Xenons fitted, the local dealership sourced three of them due to low stock in NZ at the time, this had Dynamic cornering above 50-60 from the Bi-Xenons and static cornering from the fog lights below 50-60.

My observations using an Australian market Highline for 2 months and then a NZ spec Highline for 6 months were the same.

The static cornering worked when turning below 50kmh and without indicators such as pulling out of my driveway. Provided of course that the lights were on.

flashman1207
19-07-2014, 06:56 PM
I'm pretty sure I don't have fog or cornering lights..... Anyone else with a Comfortline out there that can confirm?

Wouldn't be doing 50km/h at a t-junction. Would be still

DV52
19-07-2014, 07:39 PM
I'm pretty sure I don't have fog or cornering lights..... Anyone else with a Comfortline out there that can confirm?

Wouldn't be doing 50km/h at a t-junction. Would be still

Flashman: You are entirely correct. According to my VW brochure, fog lights with static cornering lights was/is not available on the 90TSI Comfortline as standard equipment. I shudder to think what your friendly VW dealer would charge for fitting these on your car. Although I suspect that this is not an option on your car because the the VW Golf mk7 brochure has a "dash" next to fog lights and static cornering lights for the 90TSI Comfortline. For equipment that's an option, the brochure normally has an "O" as the entry.

AdamD
20-07-2014, 02:04 PM
Have a MK7 Comfortline. When I turn right (90degree at T-Junction for example) at night there is almost no light coverage to the right of the vehicle and its really hard to see things like bollards and islands. First of all I thought it was just me but my wife says the same thing. I do not have this problem with my Magna or old Nissan GQ Patrol.

Anyone else have this problem and what is the solution. I dont think a brighter bulb will make much difference as its must be a reflector issue. I tried using the 'level adjuster' to the right of the steering when but it makes it worse...

Before you start thinking about cornering lights and configurations, let's cover the basics:

Are you referring to the standard headlight operation only? Or also foglights, high beam, etc?

Have you confirmed you don't have any bulb issues? Does the right bulb appear dimmer than the left?

Have you looked at the light dispersal pattern of the headlights? How does the right differ from the left? Have you driven the car up to a wall and taken a photograph of the light throw pattern so we can see what you're talking about? (If you do, measure the distance between the car and the wall accurately.)

Have you been in a position to compare the headlight performance to that of another Mk7 with halogens fitted? Any difference?

Once you have answers to the above questions, you'll be in a better position to identify the underlying issue, and then rectify it (new bulb, headlight unit repair or adjustment, etc). The Mk7 halogens are generally criticised for poor performance overall (I've used them; an unscientific comparison with my Mk6 based solely on my memory has suggested to me that they're inferior to the Mk6), but you shouldn't be seeing a reduction in light from just the right side of the car.

Dux
20-07-2014, 08:30 PM
Ever think plug-and-play adapters will come out for the LED tai lights? Seems like a huge amount of work to just swap them over.

Anyone know of a shop in Sydney that would be willing to undertake the modification and additional wiring?


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flashman1207
20-07-2014, 09:07 PM
Before you start thinking about cornering lights and configurations, let's cover the basics:

Are you referring to the standard headlight operation only? Or also foglights, high beam, etc?

Have you confirmed you don't have any bulb issues? Does the right bulb appear dimmer than the left?




AdamD, no I haven't done any of those things, the car is brand new. Its low beam I am talking about (dont have fog lamps). The lights look equally bright from the outside. It is so bad that I would have thought that if it was a general problem that everyone would be having the same issue. Best way to test is drive along a road and turn right into a turning that has a skinny median strip or island in the middle. I cannot see anything on the right of the vehicle as I am approaching and turning into it.....

Car is going into dealers to get 'airbag' light fixed. Will report it then

slashj
20-07-2014, 11:29 PM
I'm pretty sure I don't have fog or cornering lights..... Anyone else with a Comfortline out there that can confirm?

Wouldn't be doing 50km/h at a t-junction. Would be still

My 90TSI Comfortline mk7 has no cornering lights or fog lights in front. The stock halogens are very weak, made worst because I am used to bi-xenon from previous cars.

I changed them to Philips Xtreme Vision which improved things greatly. Still nowhere as good as xenons but I believe it's one of the better alternatives available.

flashman1207
21-07-2014, 01:06 PM
My 90TSI Comfortline mk7 has no cornering lights or fog lights in front. The stock halogens are very weak, made worst because I am used to bi-xenon from previous cars.

I changed them to Philips Xtreme Vision which improved things greatly. Still nowhere as good as xenons but I believe it's one of the better alternatives available.

Have you noticed the same problem as me though? and if so did the new bulbs improve things (cant see how they could as it seems to be the reflector)

Eaglehawk
21-07-2014, 01:12 PM
Page 113 of the manual. It's 40km/h for the static cornering lights...if you've got it...also turns on when in reverse. Duh?

flashman1207
21-07-2014, 03:13 PM
There are no cornering lights on Comfortline model as standard. The very fact that they are provided on a Highline surely indicates that they are needed. Why else ?

flashman1207
21-07-2014, 07:48 PM
So the wife takes the car to the dealer and gets told there is nothing wrong with the lights (apparently they 'checked' them). So the fact that I nearly crash the car every time I turn right when its pitch black has something to do with my wife and my eyesight? Strange that my eyesight works just fine in my other 2 cars, one of which is 20 years old

BFPO40
21-07-2014, 09:23 PM
So the wife takes the car to the dealer and gets told there is nothing wrong with the lights (apparently they 'checked' them). So the fact that I nearly crash the car every time I turn right when its pitch black has something to do with my wife and my eyesight? Strange that my eyesight works just fine in my other 2 cars, one of which is 20 years old

To be honest there isn't much you can do about the headlights other than upgrading the bulbs, others have commented on the Halogens not being particularly good and I found them pretty week with the stock bulbs on a loan mk7.

There has been pretty good feedback on various forums regarding upgrading the bulbs and that really is your best bet.

I assume the intersections you are having issues with are not street light illuminated?

I've been hanging around a few mk7 forums for almost a year and yours is the first complaint I've seen regarding lighting/turning issues so it isn't a common complaint from my observations, your local and poor street lighting could be a factor?

Go for the bulbs, it could be a game changer for you.

Good luck and regards.

Flipper
21-07-2014, 09:57 PM
I fitted the Osram night breaker bulbs $30 from Powerbulbs you can see the difference here when I fitted the first 1 to the RHS its a lot "whiter" and brighter. It may not solve your unusual problem but it is a big improvement of standard.
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flashman1207
22-07-2014, 01:57 AM
I assume the intersections you are having issues with are not street light illuminated?

Good luck and regards.

Correct, no street lighting... Will try some other bulbs

NCGR1
11-09-2014, 04:29 AM
I would suspect a vehicle designed for European speeds has more than adequate headlights. Not sure VW would ever be able to make all the fringe owners satisfied. However, it is possible that the setup for right-hand drive vehicles is not optimized.

Dutch77
11-09-2014, 08:10 AM
I would suspect a vehicle designed for European speeds has more than adequate headlights. Not sure VW would ever be able to make all the fringe owners satisfied. However, it is possible that the setup for right-hand drive vehicles is not optimized.

You would suspect wrong. The Mk7 halogens are bordering on a disgrace. Having said that, unless you regularly drive on unlit roads at night then the xenons were an overpriced styling option only.. which for us here in Australia has been taken away from us by VWA on base GTIs in any case.

REGS12
11-09-2014, 02:24 PM
You would suspect wrong. The Mk7 halogens are bordering on a disgrace. Having said that, unless you regularly drive on unlit roads at night then the xenons were an overpriced styling option only.. which for us here in Australia has been taken away from us by VWA on base GTIs in any case.

Having started this thread, It has been interesting to see that the problem is widespread across the whole range of Mk 7's.
I think the scariest downfall is the darkness to the right side. Driving through the hills with blind right hand bends is downright dangerous. I too have complained to the dealer, only to be spun the old line of "no-one else has complained"

I seriously believe the headlights are inadequate. So poor that they are dangerous and unroadworthy. I love my GTI , just as I have the previous two Golfs we've had. VW build good stuff, but ****house, disgraceful headlights. The Aussie car guys could show the Germans a thing or two about how to design decent lighting!

Does anyone from VW that cares read this stuff, or are we just whinging among ourselves?

BFPO40
11-09-2014, 06:00 PM
I would suspect a vehicle designed for European speeds has more than adequate headlights. Not sure VW would ever be able to make all the fringe owners satisfied. However, it is possible that the setup for right-hand drive vehicles is not optimized.


Probably more accurate that VW ran out of budget when it came to the mk7 halogen headlights, the MK7 is clearly designed for the U-LED Xenons right down to the red / silver strip running through the headlight. All the concept drawings I have seen show the U shaped DRL.

The Halogens are an after thought and very little thought went into them, they look cheap, nasty and out of place on the mk7. They are the most disappointing part of the Golf Mk7 and make the car look dated in the current hatch market.

And to boot the performance of the halogens is crap. Even the polo halogens look better.

To add to VW's penny pinching ways the GTI and Highline models have been downgraded to these sub-standard halogens outside of the German market - tight as.

kamold
11-09-2014, 08:23 PM
Yeah reflector halogens do offer a very budget look to the front end of any car. At least use some cheap projectors to give the impression you care VW.... Not a good look for what in this market is a premium brand.

Dutch77
11-09-2014, 08:39 PM
The chrome strip on TSI and the R looks ok, but the red strip is a no-no for me (and judging by a lot of comments in the USA forums they feel the same). I'll admit over time I've gone from hating it to simply disliking it; I might even think it's ok by the time I'm ready to move on from the Mk7.

But like I say with the Santiagos on the PP - each to their own. :)

Brendan_A
11-09-2014, 08:48 PM
So glad I've got xenons and I love my red stripes[emoji1]

Dutch77
11-09-2014, 08:54 PM
I knew I'd get a bite. :)

Audi do a premium front light; VW xenon or halogen is no match.. but I don't think it cheapens the car, it's still the most premium in its class.

Jimi
12-09-2014, 12:01 AM
So glad I've got xenons and I love my red stripes[emoji1]

Yep, even more so reading the debacle that is the win power lamps thread

I was 50/50 when I added bixenons, which were my only option. I haven't regretted it for a second. The red line has grown on me too - it's only a single line and looks clean, not naff at all I reckon. No worse than some non oem wheels anyway! ;-)

Dutch77
12-09-2014, 07:27 AM
Touche. :P

Mountainman
12-09-2014, 08:22 AM
I am happy with the focus of the headlights on my Mk7 both low and high beam, it's just their poor output. They simply are not bright enough, though strangely they seem better now after a year than when new. Maybe the low beam bulb upgrade has been more effective than I thought. I regularly (every day) swap between my Forester XT with its standard low beam xenons and do heaps of night time driving and strangely it is not the difference between the two cars low beams that I notice - it's the incredibly much better effect the Forester's halogen high beams have when they come on compared with the Golf. Like others have said, there are some very effective halogen set ups out there. Not on the Mk7 golf though.

kamold
12-09-2014, 10:47 AM
I knew I'd get a bite. :)

Audi do a premium front light; VW xenon or halogen is no match.. but I don't think it cheapens the car, it's still the most premium in its class.

But that's my point: everything else about the car is designed to place it at the premium end of its segment. Its like putting steel wheels and hubcaps on it. Sure the wheels work exactly the same but sure brings down the tone of the package...

Mountainman
13-09-2014, 11:44 AM
The Halogens are an after thought and very little thought went into them, they look cheap, nasty and out of place on the mk7. They are the most disappointing part of the Golf Mk7 and make the car look dated in the current hatch market.

And to boot the performance of the halogens is crap. Even the Polo halogens look better.
I don't go along with this view at all. I like the genuine look of the Golf's halogens. They are no worse or better looking than a mk5/6, polo or Jetta. They look what they are. What you see is what you get. It doesn't have the weird wanna be HID's of say a Corolla or i30. And experience with hire cars has shown me that those projectors have never measured up to the reflectors. I first noticed this when going from a '98 Camry with reflectors to the pathetic dark ages projectors of a '09 Camry with projectors. The headlights of a new Corolla and i30 I've experienced are not even as good as my Golf's. Now that is scary.

Wezza
19-09-2014, 06:03 AM
Anyone know if there's a replacement bulb option available to make the standard DRL a whiter light. I have changed my low beams and fogs to nightbreakers and they give off a pretty decent white light be great if i could get rid of the 'yellow' light the DRL's produce.

AJD
20-09-2014, 12:07 AM
Guaranteed to generate a bit of a reaction but I'm truly amazed at all the attention the headlights are getting. I'm not sure which light absorbing black hole some people are driving into but I do a reasonable amount of night driving on both city and country roads and think the standard halogens are pretty good. As for the aesthetics, yes there are better looking headlights on the market but let's not get ahead of ourselves, it is only a Golf.

BFPO40
20-09-2014, 08:27 AM
Guaranteed to generate a bit of a reaction but I'm truly amazed at all the attention the headlights are getting. I'm not sure which light absorbing black hole some people are driving into but I do a reasonable amount of night driving on both city and country roads and think the standard halogens are pretty good. As for the aesthetics, yes there are better looking headlights on the market but let's not get ahead of ourselves, it is only a Golf.

You should try a Golf fitted with Xenons then reappraise your position.

The factory standard halogens with factory bulbs were not good, something I noticed straight away after using a mk7 with Xenons for 3 months prior.

AJD
20-09-2014, 06:12 PM
You should try a Golf fitted with Xenons then reappraise your position.

The factory standard halogens with factory bulbs were not good, something I noticed straight away after using a mk7 with Xenons for 3 months prior.

I have driven cars with Xenons but that's not my point, I didn't say they halogens were the best lights available, what I am saying is they are not that bad. For those of us old enough to remember sealed beam headlights they are absolutely fantastic. To have people suggest the halogens on a current Golf render the vehicle unroadworthy and dangerous is ludicrous.

When it comes down to it, there are far worse headlights out there and far bigger issues with the car than the headlights.

Dutch77
20-09-2014, 07:44 PM
Correct, they're not so bad when compared to say my first car a 1982 Sigma or perhaps driving with a torch held out the window (actually make that an old torch, the new LED torches would have the Mk7 covered).

I am sure they pass roadworthy checks, no one here has claimed otherwise. What they don't do is provide a safe beam of light at highway speed on dark unlit roads. If you do this sort of driving I'd strongly recommend looking at veew's bulb upgrade at a minimum.

The fact that they even managed to go backwards over Mk6 is perhaps the saddest point, given the other leaps forward the car has made.

A reminder for anyone who missed my in depth analysis previously:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/06/headlights_zps68fc9254-1.jpg

Hillbilly
20-09-2014, 08:11 PM
Correct, they're not so bad when compared to say my first car a 1982 Sigma or perhaps driving with a torch held out the window (actually make that an old torch, the new LED torches would have the Mk7 covered).

I am sure they pass roadworthy checks, no one here has claimed otherwise. What they don't do is provide a safe beam of light at highway speed on dark unlit roads. If you do this sort of driving I'd strongly recommend looking at veew's bulb upgrade at a minimum.

The fact that they even managed to go backwards over Mk6 is perhaps the saddest point, given the other leaps forward the car has made.

A reminder for anyone who missed my in depth analysis previously:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/06/headlights_zps68fc9254-1.jpg
Why do it on the wrong side of the road. Would look more realistic if done on correct side so we could see true spread when driving.

Mountainman
21-09-2014, 07:42 AM
Actually my Mk7 halogens are somewhere between the Mk7 xenons and the Mk6 halogens photo.
The stock xenon low beam / halogen high beam on my Forester are better than that Mk7 xenon photo. Surly the Golf's xenons are brighter with a longer throw than that?

Kesh
21-09-2014, 08:51 AM
Ugh, these xenons look absolutely amazing haha. Not only that, but the projectors themselves...

Dutch77
21-09-2014, 09:26 AM
I just want to point out that was my bad wit/sarcasm/humour with doctored pics, not a serious analysis. :)

i286
21-09-2014, 10:53 AM
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/alrin5-2.jpg

Euro Car Upgrades
18-11-2014, 04:36 PM
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They are available from Euro Car Upgrades (http://jku.com.au/genuine-vw-golf-7-bi-xenon-led-headlights-oem-5g1941033-5g1941034-5g1941753-5g1941754-5g2941751-5g2941752.html) at 20% Promo for Xmas
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stat71
29-11-2014, 09:20 AM
Howdy,

Well I discovered a new problem last night sitting at some traffic lights with my headlights reflected on the silver bumper of the car in front of me. My lights were on AUTO setting, it was 10pm at night and the DRL's remained lit up along with the main beam - I noticed it as I have previously (year ago) updated my fog light / main beam lights with some philips bulbs so they are 'white' and the DRL's are 'yellow'.

I then tried all combinations of lights on/off but the DRL's remained on (and look bloody terrible in combination with mains).

I've searched and found nothing relating to this problem. Will get it down to the dealer next week.

Any thoughts?

Umai Naa!!
29-11-2014, 09:29 AM
Some answers may be found here:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/turning-off-daytime-running-lights-94879.html

BFPO40
29-11-2014, 12:04 PM
The DRLs dim when the main beam is on.

stat71
29-11-2014, 04:57 PM
The DRLs dim when the main beam is on.

ok I think I'm going mad. You are right re: dimming, but I swear to God above I've never noticed the DRL's running at night before. I've stood in front of the car checking out my philips globes and the DRLS were definately off (and yes it was night) - I would have shuddered at the presence of their yellow tinge. Arrrrrrrrrgh

DV52
29-11-2014, 08:40 PM
BFPO40 is correct, the DRLs dim to 31% when the main beams are illuminated (it's a setting in a Leuchte channel).

There are a couple of ways of turning them off but you need a VCDS cable, or you need to get together with someone who has a cable. One my Golf, I can turn the DRLs off using the Discover media screen, and they turn off automatically whenever I engage the handbrake.

Plus there is the issue of the legality of turning them off (not sure how well policed this would be though). I argue that there is no problem turning them off when the handbrake is engaged, although the way that I read the regs, it doesn't specifically cater for this situation.

Jazrod
29-11-2014, 10:17 PM
On the Mk7 Golfs with halogen headlamps, the DRLs turn OFF when the main beam is selected. I have had a Trendline, Highline and Comfortline and they have all done this.
My GTI has factory xenons, and only then is it when the LED DRLs dim when the main beam is on.

stat71
01-12-2014, 09:36 PM
On the Mk7 Golfs with halogen headlamps, the DRLs turn OFF when the main beam is selected. I have had a Trendline, Highline and Comfortline and they have all done this.
My GTI has factory xenons, and only then is it when the LED DRLs dim when the main beam is on.

I knew I wasn't going mad....question is why are the DRL's all of a sudden staying on!

GolfVII
03-12-2014, 03:25 PM
Well as we would be aware of by now is that I would like Bi-Xenon head lights on my Golf and Eos. I have been researching on how I can have these in the most cost effective way.

One of my concerns are around the requirements behind retro fitting these after market head lamps (GAS Discharge Headlamps) are; "what are the laws around these in my state?"

So my first point of reference is my local government motor information website - www.sa.gov.au - transport-travel-and-motoring (https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transport-travel-and-motoring/motoring/vehicles-and-registration/vehicle-standards-and-modifications/lighting-and-instrumentation)

On this page it states:

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HID (high-intensity discharge) headlamps

HID light bulbs, also known as xenon lights, produce light by creating an electrical arc across two electrodes, resulting in a much brighter white/blue light than normal halogen light bulbs.
Fitting HID headlamps is permissible providing that they are fitted with automatic headlamp levelling devices and headlamp cleaners. They must also conform to any requirements in set in Australian Design Rule 13 (http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/adr_online.aspx).
*****************

So I went on to read the Australian Design Rule 13, 77/00, 75/00 and all the others, wow these documents have amendments and updates for every article, but what I found out is even outside your own state the ADR says you are required to fit auto levelling and washers to the vehicle if you are going to fit GAS Discharge Headlamps and they must be white in colour etc.

More can be read up here -
Third Edition Australian Design Rules (http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/adr_online.aspx)
or
ComLaw Home (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/)

This has really places a black cloud over me retro fitting to HID/Bi-Xenon headlamps as the last thing I need is the misses being pulled over and getting a fine that requires her car or mine to go pass inspection before the defect notice would be removed. Here in Adelaide they will send you to regency (inspection location) even if your car meets ADR rules just to make you pay to have the defect removed because the Police themselves are unsure what meets requirements. (insert something about revenue raising etc.)

To retro fit Bi-Xenon lights I require following parts:
1 x Front bumper with washer outlets (hopefully pre-painted)
1 x Washer Kit
1 x Set of RHD B-Xenon headlamp kit (hopefully including auto levelling kit)
1 x Purple Conversion connector to plug in OEM Headlamps plugs
and finally once I have fitted all these parts I need access RossTech cable to do the coding.

Out of everything listed the hardest item to track down without picking up a phone and making many calls to random repairers listed on the VW insurance brochure, has to be the R-Line front bumper with washer outlets or even a 2012 Eos bumper designed for Bi-Xenon lights. The washers seam to be the biggest issue.

If you anyone knows who can supply OEM VW bumpers please feel free to PM me the details :)

Sorry to hijack your this thread, just thought I better let everyone know what they could be getting themselves in to with the law.

pologti18t
04-12-2014, 01:28 AM
The trick is to get a HID (D5S,D6S,D8S or LED kit that has 2000lms or less.... no requirement for washers when you keep the lumens under 2000.

LED headlights seem to be popping up more and more for this reason.

egsolomon
08-12-2014, 07:18 PM
OK, I might be missing something, or having a real bad weekend, changed the fog lights without an issue, but the main and dipped lights, I can't figure out, getting them out is fine, but the actual changing of the globes is doing my mind. Anyone care to tell me the secret. Got Nightbreaker for what it's worth.

thanks in advance.

DV52
08-12-2014, 10:22 PM
OK, I might be missing something, or having a real bad weekend, changed the fog lights without an issue, but the main and dipped lights, I can't figure out, getting them out is fine, but the actual changing of the globes is doing my mind. Anyone care to tell me the secret. Got Nightbreaker for what it's worth.

thanks in advance.

egosolomon: Hope the following two pictures can be of assistance.


http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/12/ECmcr99png-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/12/0PVu8Y6png-1.jpg






After you have the bulb assembly out, its a matter of pulling bulb (marked -1) out of the holder (marked - 2)

egsolomon
09-12-2014, 06:06 AM
Thanks DV52, but the photos are not showing.

DV52
09-12-2014, 08:56 AM
Thanks DV52, but the photos are not showing.

egosolomon: My apology - all fixed, I hope!

brad
09-12-2014, 11:03 AM
If you anyone knows who can supply OEM VW bumpers please feel free to PM me the details :)

Sorry to hijack your this thread, just thought I better let everyone know what they could be getting themselves in to with the law.
I think the bulk of people are aware of the legal side of things. We try & keep that part seperate from the practical side of fitting HIDs.

I can't vouch for VW but on Skodas the cut marks are in the bumper & you can retrofit the washers into the existing bumper. There's a guy over on Briskoda that has done it to his MK2 Octavia & it looks factory.

I've had HID bulbs without levelling / washers in my Octy for 5 years (100,000+ km of motoring). I've never had an issue with the police. I pass at least 4 HWP cars per day & my lights are set to Scandinavian mode so are on whenever the engine is running.

Unless you are particularly handy & capable of DIY the full conversion isn't worth it IMO. You may as well get Osram Night Breakers & be done with it.

egsolomon
09-12-2014, 05:06 PM
Thanks DV52, much appreciated.

BFPO40
09-12-2014, 08:37 PM
Anyone here experiencing this with their Bi-Xenons?

My driver side headlight -

Cloudy build-up on inside of lens, noticed it within days of picking the car up from the dealer.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/12/004_zps06be96b6jpgoriginal-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/12/002_zpsa6da00b6jpgoriginal-1.jpg

Dirty projector lens on the same headlight.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/12/001_zpsc3c097fajpgoriginal-1.jpg

By contrast here is my passenger side headlight, dusty on the inside and dirt on the projector lens but far more acceptable.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/12/003_zpsce7cbc57jpgoriginal-1.jpg

I'm about to become a pain in Volkswagens ass over this after the dealership could not get the go ahead to replace the headlight under warranty.

aussietanker
10-12-2014, 08:17 PM
I think the bulk of people are aware of the legal side of things. We try & keep that part seperate from the practical side of fitting HIDs.

I can't vouch for VW but on Skodas the cut marks are in the bumper & you can retrofit the washers into the existing bumper. There's a guy over on Briskoda that has done it to his MK2 Octavia & it looks factory.

I've had HID bulbs without levelling / washers in my Octy for 5 years (100,000+ km of motoring). I've never had an issue with the police. I pass at least 4 HWP cars per day & my lights are set to Scandinavian mode so are on whenever the engine is running.

Unless you are particularly handy & capable of DIY the full conversion isn't worth it IMO. You may as well get Osram Night Breakers & be done with it.


Are the Osram Night Breakers compatible with the 2014/5 Golf mk 7 90TSI ... and are they better than stock?

cheers

brad
10-12-2014, 08:32 PM
Are the Osram Night Breakers compatible with the 2014/5 Golf mk 7 90TSI ... and are they better than stock?

cheers
definitely better than stock

Try http://www.powerbulbs.com or Car Bulbs, Headlight Bulbs, Wiper blades, headlamp bulbs, Xenon Bulbs: Autobulbs Direct Ltd (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/)

You might have to flick them an email or (shock, horror!) look up your owners manual for confirmation of the bulb type.

Lucas_R
10-12-2014, 08:45 PM
LEDPerf also have a good range of bulbs: Pack of 2 bulbs H15 Xenon Effect - MTEC Super White (http://www.ledperf.co.uk/pack-of-2-bulbs-h15-mtec-super-white-pure-white-p-6156.html)

Euro Car Upgrades
11-12-2014, 08:48 AM
It is very hard for anyone without a proper scanner to test the lights or the washers properly if the lights look factory
- Auto Levelling does not work every time you switch on the car - it will activate when the car is stationary and locked for a couple of hours. When you simply jump out of your car on the side of the motorway, it will never ever re-activate the auto levelling unless you lock it for a period of time.
- Washers - 1st - useless in Australian climate unless you are in the snowy mountains. 2. Nowadays you can set them not to activate as well. I did this on my A6 as it would always make a mess of a car which was just waxed. These can also be set only to activate every 5th time or even every 10th. Most vehicles like Golf have provisions in the bumpers for the washers and generally its not a hard DIY weekend job if you absolutely certain you must have it.
- my wife drives an old ML with Xenon as standard in 2005 and because the bulbs are 35Watts it was not a requirement for this vehicle to have washers. It just passed the RWC with no problems at all. The same goes for VW Beetle - they dont have washers when they have xenons as the bulbs are 35W.

I think cops dont like the boys in Hondas ;) with aftermarket "fancy" headlights with VW led strips look-a-likes rather than questioning genuine headlights which they are not able to test unless at the dealership.

This is the test which can only be done at VW dealer or with VCDS diagnostics which i dont think cops have:


http://youtu.be/xIcwoibcoz4?list=UUa6LkdOxg1O7b96IKqETr7A

fastmk7
11-12-2014, 12:21 PM
Had a 2014 MK 7 GTI for a couple of months, lights were what you'd expect from a modern headlamp shape, traded up to a 2015 GTI Performance which come std with BI-Xenon , just like chalk and cheese,and yes they look far better with the LED dru's .Also got the DAS pkg, its a perfect vehicle the average driver would be more than happy , but as my "hobby" seems to be "modifying sh.t" its getting twin forge intercoolers, and 3" 4 outlet ss exh and reflash shortly along with APR cold air intake.

Mountainman
11-12-2014, 06:53 PM
I know I've complained about the weak Mk7 lights before but perhaps I should take it all back. Recently I have run next to a latest model Prado and a HiLux on the 4 lane Gatton bypass west of Brisbane at night. There was no other lighting to affect the results but what amazed me was the stock high beam on my Golf killed the pathetic light given out by the other two vehicles. They were truly awful. No wonder you see Prados and HiLuxes running spotlights. It's hard to believe Toyota could sell vehicles that they expect to do lots of rural miles with such pathetic lights. Under the same conditions I know that my Golfs high beams are better than the latest Corollas and i30 too.

brad
11-12-2014, 08:48 PM
That surprises me MountainMan. Traditionally Toyota have had good headlights. It appears they have slid backwards like the brand in general

stat71
02-01-2015, 08:53 PM
Recently I received a alert on MFD "check left dipped headlight beam"...so I checked it and sure enough, not working but all other lights were.

Down to repco and picked up a replacement only to find it didn't work either. So I tried swapping in the right bulb that I know is working and still no success.

I then spent a considerable amount of time trying to identify if it is a fuse....no joy here...

So I next visited my local VW Dealer who following an extended assessment decided that the entire left front headlight assembly needs to be replaced. They assert that the problem is was a result of me using non-genuine bulbs (I am using a whiter globe and have been for over 18mths - from memory it was a legal version of OSRAMS). The dealer agreed to not mention the fact I was using aftermarket globes and has placed this as a warranty claim.

Very interesting and I'm not sure I agree with their assessment of the cause of the issue. When I questioned the tech further he stated that the aftermarket globe causes overheating of the mount which caused irreversible damage. The were legal H7 globes. I'm now back to VW supplied genuine ****ty bulbs ($67)!

So what is the vwwatercooled thoughts on the above?

Eaglehawk
02-01-2015, 10:09 PM
If it was because of 3rd party bulbs, wouldn't the other side show signs of overheating too? If it doesn't, it's a warranty claim.

brad
03-01-2015, 05:19 AM
When you fitted the new bulb, did you cycle the ignition & headlight switch. I found out the hard way that you need to do this.

Euro Car Upgrades
03-01-2015, 09:42 AM
Surely that is a joke beyond my comprehension. What do they make these plastic holders of? Jelly beans

ajay1940
03-01-2015, 10:07 AM
When you fitted the new bulb, did you cycle the ignition & headlight switch. I found out the hard way that you need to do this.
Ca you please expand, on that comment? I'm not sure what you mean.
Fitting aftermarket bulbs is probably the most common upgrade ever. It rarely causes problems. I've done it on every car I've owned, going back to the 1970's.

the220
15-01-2015, 11:45 AM
hi guys
read through but just a tiny bit confused still lol
want to upgrade my lights on my 110tdi so standard halogen lights
i want to do the headlights, side parkers or whatever and fog lights..

do i need h7 and h11? whats the h15?
if anyone can help that would be great

also thinking of getting the diamond vision phillips 5000k

DV52
15-01-2015, 02:20 PM
hi guys
read through but just a tiny bit confused still lol
want to upgrade my lights on my 110tdi so standard halogen lights
i want to do the headlights, side parkers or whatever and fog lights..

do i need h7 and h11? whats the h15?
if anyone can help that would be great

also thinking of getting the diamond vision phillips 5000k

the220: Here's a pic of the lighting specs for my TSI - It might help . You probably already know, but the "H" number refers to the ECE category (a UN regulation). As you can see from the table, the H7 size is just for Low Beam, but the H15 size has both Low-beam and parker. They are physically different (i.e. the two have a different lamp-base). You will need to look at your lights an see which lamp you currently have. The H11 is the Fog light.

My suggestion is that you have a play with the application on the OSRAM website (I'm not sure if PHILLIPS lighting has a similar application on their website). The OSRAM facility is real cool! Just click here (http://am-application.osram.info/en). OSRAM-SYLVANIA also has a similar application which you can find here (http://www.sylvania.com/en-us/applications/automotive-lighting-systems/Pages/lrgmain.aspx)


http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/01/1iu65aCjpg1-1.jpg

Euro Car Upgrades
04-02-2015, 04:38 PM
hi guys,
For a pair of genuine VW ones you can speak to us as we do have a few sets in stock for RHD market.
We also just started selling modules which make them plug & play with no errors.
You simply remove the old headlight, plug the new one is the job is done, Bob's your uncle.
We have now discounted them by $200 which is about 10% discount from SRP:
genuine VW Golf 7 Bi-Xenon LED headlights OEM 5G1941033 5G1941034 5G1941753 5G1941754 5G2941751 5G2941752 Euro Car Upgrades (http://jku.com.au/genuine-vw-golf-7-bi-xenon-led-headlights-oem-5g1941033-5g1941034-5g1941753-5g1941754-5g2941751-5g2941752.html)
Genuine VW with 12 months warranty.
Install at $399 when a module is purchased for plug & play operation

jetz427
23-03-2015, 08:10 PM
Hi guys

I picked up my GTI last week in white and am absolutely in love with it. Unfortunately it is the non performance pack and came with the very average looking halogen lamps

Just wondering, where can I find a good reputable supplier of the GTI bi-xenon headlights (with red stripe). I tried dealing directly with Vacar but they have only produced the R (no red strip) headlights and am back at square one

Please help!

Thanks
JZ

Dutch77
23-03-2015, 09:20 PM
Red electrical tape.

Alternately read through the thread here: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/headlights-87200.html , it'll either cost a fortune or you'll be breaking the law.

Jimi
24-03-2015, 08:19 AM
Agreed. Though I've got them and they are excellent, if I didn't have them I wouldn't bother with aftermarket bi xenons. It costs quite a lot and there's been a lot of pain with people struggling to install them properly and then get them to work. Plus the end result is illegal as you won't have washer jets.

Alternatively, doing it using OEM parts imported from Europe will probably set you back about $3k incl installation (as a factory option on MY14 they were $2k)

I'd suggest just getting some of those Philips Nightbreaker bulbs to make the headlights whiter, so it doesn't look like a stained yellow 20 yr old headlamp. I think they will also improve the beam a bit.

jetz427
25-03-2015, 07:01 AM
Has anyone bought from these guys before? http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=161545277328&category=33710&pm=1&ds=0&t=1427228937672

jetz427
25-03-2015, 09:12 AM
Thanks jimi I might have to resort to that if I can't source bixenons

dero
25-03-2015, 09:13 AM
I've read about the replacement bulbs to the higher intensity headlights - are these bulbs "tuned" (in a sense) to the reflectors in the head lamp array?

Pros of this headlamp are the lights are whiter, brighter and illuminate a distance further than the halogens, plus they look more premium.

Cons would be that they don't last as long, potentially the reflections of the lights can dazzle oncoming drivers' eyes and they cost more in terms of bulb replacement.

If they can be replaced, is it a straight replacement? No issues of voltage reading errors showing up in the vehicle status messages between the old halogen vs these newer higher intensity bulbs?

agentthumb
26-03-2015, 04:03 PM
I've read about the replacement bulbs to the higher intensity headlights - are these bulbs "tuned" (in a sense) to the reflectors in the head lamp array?

Pros of this headlamp are the lights are whiter, brighter and illuminate a distance further than the halogens, plus they look more premium.

Cons would be that they don't last as long, potentially the reflections of the lights can dazzle oncoming drivers' eyes and they cost more in terms of bulb replacement.

If they can be replaced, is it a straight replacement? No issues of voltage reading errors showing up in the vehicle status messages between the old halogen vs these newer higher intensity bulbs?

@dero, I'm assuming you are referring to High Intensity Discharge (HID) bulbs when you are talking about "higher intensity headlights"?

If so, then no. They are not "tuned" to work with your stock halogen reflectors. Due to the different ways light is created between HID and halogen bulbs, you will end up throwing light everywhere when you simply replace your factory halogen bulbs with HID bulbs and ballast. This is illegal and will often daze oncoming traffic.

You can buy conversion kits that replaces the whole head light housing with correct light cutoffs for HIDs (to not daze on coming drivers) however, in Australia, the ADR specifies HIDs (or any front light sources brighter than 2000 lumens) will need to be fitted with headlight washer and auto levelling capabilities. These requirements render most, if not all after market conversion kits illegal.

The only legal option for retrofitting HIDs is to fit correct housing, washer and leveller. At the moment, only the factory parts offer these capabilities.

As for "brighter" halogen bulbs offered by Philips and Osram, they are just brighter based on better design and higher quality (i'm talking about bulbs here that run specified wattage, will get into higher wattage bulbs in a tick). I have tried Philips xtremeVision, and did find them to be brighter than the factory bulbs in my Toyota Camry, they are road legal and are relatively cheap (~$60 off eBay for a pair), I'd recommend you try these first. They are just a simple swap out from the original factory bulbs.

Some manufacturers offer higher wattage halogen bulbs ie. 100W as opposed to 55W standard. They are obviously brighter than your standard 55W bulbs, but be very careful using these. More wattage = more heat, you run into danger here of melting your head light housing etc.

Edit: forgot to mention that higher wattage bulbs can also damage your factory wiring.

Zepto
26-03-2015, 06:19 PM
As for "brighter" halogen bulbs offered by Philips and Osram, they are just brighter based on better design and higher quality (i'm talking about bulbs here that run specified wattage, will get into higher wattage bulbs in a tick). I have tried Philips xtremeVision, and did find them to be brighter than the factory bulbs in my Toyota Camry, they are road legal and are relatively cheap (~$60 off eBay for a pair), I'd recommend you try these first. They are just a simple swap out from the original factory bulbs.
In case anyone is looking for a pair of Philips X-treme Vision bulbs, they are currently only $48 from powerbulbs.com.

dero
26-03-2015, 06:52 PM
Thanks for the thorough explaination!

I'll look into which set of brighter halogens I may need to get to upgrade my headlights.

Another thing I've been thinking of is looking at the wreckers and seeing if a wrecked car has a pair of HIDs and maybe buying those off the wrecker for fitting. Would that still end up being more trouble than its worth? Reason I ask this is because my car has the Dynamic Chassis Control in it and I read a while back that there are a specific set of HID lights required for cars with active suspension. Is this something to do with a different way of auto-leveling?

agentthumb
26-03-2015, 06:57 PM
No worries @dero.

I'm not sure about different parts for DCC equipped cars. Perhaps other forum members could shed some light.

Other than that, I can't see any reasons you can't get the required parts from a wrecker.

Just remember, you will need the housing (should include ballast and bulbs), components for headlight washer, and components for automatic levelling.

You will also need VCDS to code everything properly.


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dero
27-03-2015, 09:02 AM
Ok, just to confirm, the washer and components for levelling don't come as a part of the pair of headlight units? There are other components outside of this?

I recognise that cars, especially VWs these days are like big model kits. Just big handle'able blocks which slot into containers designed to house those blocks. Lights are one of them - I thought all the components (bulbs, levelling, washer, etc) are built into the lighting brick for either side of the car?

agentthumb
27-03-2015, 10:18 AM
Ok, just to confirm, the washer and components for levelling don't come as a part of the pair of headlight units? There are other components outside of this?

I recognise that cars, especially VWs these days are like big model kits. Just big handle'able blocks which slot into containers designed to house those blocks. Lights are one of them - I thought all the components (bulbs, levelling, washer, etc) are built into the lighting brick for either side of the car?

Yes, they are different parts. I'm not sure what the OEM part numbers are, but here's an example of auto levellers. And looking at the description, it would appear there are different parts for cars with DCC. You'd have to install them (usually at the rear control arm) and run the wires back to the front of the car.

Auto-Leveling Headlights complete set - Retrofit - VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon-39934_M (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5q/auto-leveling-headlights-complete-set-retrofit-vw-golf-7-bi-xenon1)


As for headlight washers, they are a separate unit you will have to install. This involves cutting holes in your front bumper. (Apparently there are guides etched into the bumper from factory), obviously you'd have to run the hose to your washer fluid tank. OEM HID equipped Golfs also have an additional sensor in the fluid tank to warn you of low fluid levels. So there is yet another part to consider.

As @Jimi has already mentioned, previous attempts to retrofit ADR compliant HIDs have run upwards of $3k.

brad
27-03-2015, 10:34 AM
@ dero: Nope.

level sensors are attached to the front & rear suspension.

Washers are usually in the bumper.

dero
27-03-2015, 01:48 PM
Thanks for the tips guys. Probably not worth continue pursuing the idea of getting HID Xenons into my car unless I come into a big lotto win. Given that I don't get lotto tickets unless its the odd mega jackpot variety style of donations... I'll set this idea of upgrade aside then. :)

LMF
21-04-2015, 08:16 PM
Has anyone try this headlight? Any feedback would be great.


3D BAR DRL LED DAY Time Projector Head Lights FOR Volkswagen VW Golf VII 7 13 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3D-Bar-DRL-LED-Day-Time-Projector-Head-Lights-for-VolksWagen-VW-Golf-VII-7-13-/171464021828?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item27ec0d5744)

ryanjames20
21-04-2015, 10:32 PM
I've dealt with Mars Performance previously on another car I had in the past and their headlamps are rather good quality, however miss out on a lot of manufacture "features" such as leveling motors and in this particular example for the Mk7, turn signals. I'm not joking turn signals. If you go on their you have the option of indicators but they aren't included standard.

>>Here (http://marsperformance.com.au/Black-3D-Stripe-Bar-DRL-LED-Day-Time-Projector-Head-Lights-VolksWagen-VW-Golf-VII-13)<< is a link to their website.
Although I've had some good experience with them on a old Holden Astra (TS), I personally wouldn't recommend them for a european car. The quality just isn't there compared to the rest of the car, and I'd be unsure how the electrics would cope too - I'm sure all would be find but you interior leveling switch won't work and you'll find yourself just spending extra on "turn signals" and Xenon kits.

Alternately, Perhaps have a look at Ed's replica Golf R headlamps. I have them myself and they are great! Very high quality and everything remains working on the vehicle, including the leveling switch and comes with turn signals and bi-xenons standard :P For a similar price too.

Hope this helps :D

boooosted
05-11-2015, 06:44 PM
Hi all,

Haven't been on the forums in a very long time and pretty much out of the loop on all things VW, but just bought a new MK7 GTI but it hasn't got the Bi-Xenon headlights. ARGHHH!

So, just wondering what the best out there is besides from giving my first born child to VW spare parts Australia for a set. $$$$$$$$

Ive been looking at the headlight set from ECS 403 Forbidden (http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_VII--2.0T_Gen3/Lighting/Headlights/ES2834533/)

Would much rather something that looks 100% genuine though.

Keen to buy, just don't know which ones!

Hillbilly
05-11-2015, 07:06 PM
Hi all,

Haven't been on the forums in a very long time and pretty much out of the loop on all things VW, but just bought a new MK7 GTI but it hasn't got the Bi-Xenon headlights. ARGHHH!

So, just wondering what the best out there is besides from giving my first born child to VW spare parts Australia for a set. $$$$$$$$

Ive been looking at the headlight set from ECS 403 Forbidden (http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_VII--2.0T_Gen3/Lighting/Headlights/ES2834533/)

Would much rather something that looks 100% genuine though.

Keen to buy, just don't know which ones!

Unless fitted with all the bits, washers. levellers etc are illegal unless under the light output which makes it not a worthwhile mod

Full cost about $4k

Matt P
05-11-2015, 08:28 PM
Unless fitted with all the bits, washers. levellers etc are illegal unless under the light output which makes it not a worthwhile mod

Full cost about $4k

Quoted this in case you missed it

Its not a honda, don't rice it please

AdamD
06-11-2015, 08:17 AM
Would much rather something that looks 100% genuine though.

Keen to buy, just don't know which ones!

Suggest you read through this thread, and see the woes that people have suffered through, before you commit to replacing your lights:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/group-buy-aftermarket-bixenon-headlights-winpower-lamps-98267.html

DV52
06-11-2015, 10:13 AM
Quoted this in case you missed it

Its not a honda, don't rice it please

Matt: Hi. I've read and participated in lots of forum posts involving retro-fitted HIDs on MQB platform vehicles like the mk7. Truth is that it can and it has been done many times.

IMO though, the question is not whether it can be done, or even what's the best aftermarket assembly to buy, but rather - how much effort are you prepared to put into the project to comply with the ADR?

I don't mean to be provocative in raising this question, but it's an important consideration (IMO) before you start spending the quantity of money that's needed for a project of this type. And frankly, it's an overt decision that should be made from the outset with the full knowledge of both the ADR's requirements and the consequences of non-compliance !

You can of course entirely ignore the ADR and simply install HIDs without the required levelling or washer equipment and there's a good probability that you will not be caught (quite a few on this and other forums have done just this). Likely, the only consequence that result from non-compliance of the ADR will be the constant annoyance of cars travelling in the opposite direction, but for this you will certainly get excellent visibility from the fittings

However, the ultimate risk is that the incorrectly aimed HIDs will cause an accident, or your car will be involved in an incident in which your vehicle is found not to be roadworthy because of the HIDs. Such a finding will have all sorts of ramifications depending on the severity of the accident and particularly if the miss-aligned HIDs were found to be a contributory factor in someone's injury - or even worse.

So, ultimately a decision to pursue a project of this type is a risk-management decision (IMO). Each of us will value the break-even point between the risk-probably and the benefits differently. It's not until (and if) the worst happens that we get to know whether we made the correct decision - and it's pointless when this happens asking that most futile of questions: "perhaps it would have been better if I had not pursued this project?"!

Again, I don't mean to be provocative and I hope that you understand my intent in raising these matters
Don

PS: Just to help make your decision, here is a schematic of the necessary gear for the levelling equipment on a mk7 - sorry for the LHD pic, but I used the diagram to help a forum colleague that has a NAR model mk7. Please note that in USA, mk7's aren't equipped with the rear levelling sender - not sure if this is the same in Australia, perhaps someone here can advise

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/11/eo5JYoDpng-1.jpg

wasabiz
06-11-2015, 05:11 PM
Hi all,

Haven't been on the forums in a very long time and pretty much out of the loop on all things VW, but just bought a new MK7 GTI but it hasn't got the Bi-Xenon headlights. ARGHHH!

So, just wondering what the best out there is besides from giving my first born child to VW spare parts Australia for a set. $$$$$$$$

Ive been looking at the headlight set from ECS 403 Forbidden (http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_VII--2.0T_Gen3/Lighting/Headlights/ES2834533/)

Would much rather something that looks 100% genuine though.

Keen to buy, just don't know which ones!

https://www.kufatec.com.au/shop/en/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5q/complete-bi-xenon-headlamps-led-drl-golf-7-electr.-damper-control?action_ms=1

a complete set of retrokit. You're looking at $4.5k and that's without fitter and I'm not sure if it comes with a washer. I've been in plenty of situation where I was blinded by an oncoming traffic because they have fitted a HID kit and was not properly levelled, it can get quite annoying.

boooosted
08-11-2015, 03:49 PM
Guess i didnt realise how in-depth the retro fit would be.

Maybe ill just opt for replacing the standard headlight bulbs with brighter, whiter ones.

In saying that, with the mk7, which bulbs would i need to replace? I assume the DRL and then also the standard headlights / high beams?

Sorry for the ignorance, what is the name of the bulbs id be looking to change? H..?

DV52
08-11-2015, 10:15 PM
Guess i didnt realise how in-depth the retro fit would be.

Maybe ill just opt for replacing the standard headlight bulbs with brighter, whiter ones.

In saying that, with the mk7, which bulbs would i need to replace? I assume the DRL and then also the standard headlights / high beams?

Sorry for the ignorance, what is the name of the bulbs id be looking to change? H..?

Boooosted: Here you go - picture of the halogen headlights on a mk7 showing standard wattage lamps and their "H" number. The inner lamp is a dual filament fitting with the DRL/Parker function achieved by dimming the 15W element - Look at the Leuchte channels to see how this is done (if you have access to a VCDS cable)
Don

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/11/PZYtZ3Upng-1.jpg

boooosted
09-11-2015, 05:44 PM
Boooosted: Here you go - picture of the halogen headlights on a mk7 showing standard wattage lamps and their "H" number. The inner lamp is a dual filament fitting with the DRL/Parker function achieved by dimming the 15W element - Look at the Leuchte channels to see how this is done (if you have access to a VCDS cable)
Don



I was looking for an image like this for so long. such a legend! thanks.

Ok so now that bi-xeon dream is over, would you happen to know what type of bulb i would use so that i can make the headlights match the colour of the fog lights? They almost look like a white-ish blue colour? would something like a 4300k suit?

Just been looking on the powerbulbs.com.au site but still a bit confused on which bulbs to get and which will give me the best 'white-ness'.

DV52
10-11-2015, 08:44 AM
I was looking for an image like this for so long. such a legend! thanks.

Ok so now that bi-xeon dream is over, would you happen to know what type of bulb i would use so that i can make the headlights match the colour of the fog lights? They almost look like a white-ish blue colour? would something like a 4300k suit?

Just been looking on the powerbulbs.com.au site but still a bit confused on which bulbs to get and which will give me the best 'white-ness'.

boooosted: Thank you for the generous words - but kudos for the diagram really belongs to VW!

Sorry, but I can't add value to your question about the choice of new lamps - I have retained the original lamps on my mk7. Perhaps someone here with better expertise in this area can help?
Cheers
Don

REGS12
23-11-2015, 01:53 PM
boooosted: Thank you for the generous words - but kudos for the diagram really belongs to VW!

Sorry, but I can't add value to your question about the choice of new lamps - I have retained the original lamps on my mk7. Perhaps someone here with better expertise in this area can help?
Cheers
Don

To me, driving through a tight right hand corner in the bush, in the darkness, with a Mk 7 Golf is far more hazardous than exposure to exhaust emission that have been quite acceptable up until recent years.
I remember fitting a relay and 100w halogen globes to my hot VK Commodore in 1984. I also remember returning to the car after leaving headlights on finding the plastic lenses soft and very yellow! Message here is to be careful fitting hotter globes.
NB-----Anyone got a GTD that they now despise and want to give it away??

bos
28-12-2015, 07:51 AM
Hello,

I would first like to thank for support of this forum.
I installed Bi Xenon Adapter from Halogen to Xenon, activated Xenon, but some parts do not work.

everything works(U DRL Led + low beam + High beam + DOT Led)

See link youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhaYHxp3kqU
This is original volkswagen golf 7.

I want that "DOT Led + low beam" together works.
Does anyone know coding?

thank you.

DV52
28-12-2015, 09:05 AM
Hello,

I would first like to thank for support of this forum.
I installed Bi Xenon Adapter from Halogen to Xenon, activated Xenon, but some parts do not work.

everything works(U DRL Led + low beam + High beam + DOT Led)

See link youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhaYHxp3kqU
This is original volkswagen golf 7.

I want that "DOT Led + low beam" together works.
Does anyone know coding?

thank you.

bos: hello again - you have moved from the RT forum?

Have you tried MRG_AU's tweak instructions for turning-on the DOT LED? It's here (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/vcds-vag-com-codes-programmable-options-golf-mk7-84619-post1163339.html?#post1163339)

If the tweak above is not suitable, please make an adaptation map of the BCM and post it somewhere where we can have a look at it. I suspect that the answer might be lurking in the Leuchte-set VLB10 (left side) and VLR21 (right side )- these being the channels that control the side-lights. However, I'm not confident in finding a solution given that yours are retrofitted HID assemblies involving the installation of a cross wiring loom (i.e. Halogen 10 Pin connector to HID 14Pin connector). It could be that the headlight manufacturer has hard wired the Dot to the DRLs to facilitate the 10pin to 14 pin changeover. But it's worth creating an admap in the first instance (IMO)
Cheers
Don

bos
12-01-2016, 02:00 AM
It will not works.


who can help me please??

OceanLad
08-03-2016, 06:07 AM
Hey All,

I came upon a thread earlier where people were talking about retrofitting DLA headlights onto a non-DLA car, but I can't find it again.

Does anyone know of someone successfully putting DLAs onto a standard HID car with just the moving headlights? I've been putting my 2016 U.S. spec R back together after getting smashed by an S.U.V. and, thanks to a language barrier, I ordered the wrong headlamps.

I've got the DLA units in my car and they work as low beams and follow steering wheel inputs, but I've got no high beams. I know I would need to get the rear view mirror with camera and do some coding, but has anyone successfully done it?


Thanks for any guidance!

JIM

agentthumb
30-04-2016, 07:32 PM
So, bought a pair of the new Philips X-Treme vision 130 to upgrade my OE halogen bulbs. Thought I'd share the results with the peeps here. IMO, worth the upgrade for $55 (Philips X-treme Vision +130% H7 (Twin Pack) | PowerBulbs (http://www.powerbulbs.com/au/product/philips-xtreme-vision-130-h7-twin)).

Noticeable difference from OEM globes, which are Philips Standard range bulbs.

We have a pair of the old X-Treme vision 100 in the i20, and unsurprisingly, that was far brighter than the OEM Golf bulbs.

The X-Treme vision 130 is meant to be 130% brighter than the OEM bulbs (Philips based this claim against the Standard bulb range), throw whiter light (3700K vs 3200K), have better light spread while drawing the same wattage. However, the X-treme Vision has shorter life expectancy compared to Standard Bulbs (by 100 hours).

I didn't take any photos of the light throw with the original bulbs, but have photos comparing the light colours and intensity oh the X-Treme Vision next to the OE Standard bulbs. Also have photos using the OE fog lights as reference.

Also, here's a video of some guy explaining how it all works with a OLD vs NEW comparison of him driving at the end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEGg1SlGcls

So here goes:

1. The bulbs:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/attachments/f197/22870-headlights-discussion-questions-0-prod-shot-jpg

2. X-Treme Vision 130 next to Standard bulb. As you can see, the X-treme vision is whiter, and much more intense compared to the Standard globe.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/attachments/f197/22871-headlights-discussion-questions-1-headlight-compare-jpg

3. Comparison of light colour between X-treme vision low beam and OEM Fog light (which I believe are Standard bulbs as well). Immediately, I could see the colour difference when the cornering lights kick in while driving. The fog lights are significantly more "yellow" compared to the X-Treme Vision. And it's no where near as bright.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/attachments/f197/22872-headlights-discussion-questions-2-low-b-vs-fog-jpg

4. Again, comparing colour and intensity of X-Treme Vision Low Beam against Standard bulb Fog lamp
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/attachments/f197/22873-headlights-discussion-questions-4-head-vs-fog-colour-jpg

5. X-Treme Vision light throw, and with OEM High beam + OEM Fog light (I'm sort of parked in a ditch, doesn't do the lights justice)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/attachments/f197/22874-headlights-discussion-questions-5-light-jpg

kaiserky
12-06-2016, 07:24 PM
My only regret is that I didn't get the factory xenon's, worth every penny I think.

Ky

sillygogo
12-06-2016, 11:11 PM
My only regret is that I didn't get the factory xenon's, worth every penny I think.

Ky

Same here

agentthumb
13-06-2016, 07:37 AM
My only regret is that I didn't get the factory xenon's, worth every penny I think.

Ky

Me too, I wish they hadn't packaged it up with sunroof and leather.


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nardini2016
13-04-2017, 01:00 PM
Car V7. 2016 VW GTI Performance

Hi guys I just would like some clarification as to whether this particular car has the dynamic adaptive cornering function.
I am not talking of the "bulb cornering lights"-when you slow down and are about to turn the corner, Rather if the main beams shine into a corner as your cruising down a road with no lighting.
My point is that I recently asked a VW service centre to check on this particular function, but they say that I do not have them. So why do they do their little dance when you initiate them? There obviously is a servo motor controlling the startup dance.
Any thoughts?



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Mattlock
13-04-2017, 02:50 PM
The servo is the required self-levelling system. I believe that it, along with headlamp washers, is a mandatory requirement to meet ADR.

My R just has the secondary turn bulb, rather than swivelling headlamps.


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TJG
13-04-2017, 04:21 PM
Mine has dynamic and static and as far as I am aware if you have Bi-Xenons on your GTI or R you should have dynamic cornering lights as well as the static ones.

You sure you haven't turned it off in the menus (you can turn on/off dynamic bend lighting) ??

fontana302
13-04-2017, 06:23 PM
My headlights are dynamic on my MY 15 Golf R , when I turn a corner at speed (not that high I might add: 30-40 kmh), the light beam is ahead of me in the corner.

The static bulb cornering device only works at very low speed and obviously highlights the gutter, which I like. They all work very well for different purposes on mine.

nardini2016
13-04-2017, 07:18 PM
Thanks guys. TJG.. you mentioned I should have a look in menu. Where exactly. Thanks.


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TJG
13-04-2017, 07:55 PM
From Memory I press the "CAR" button to get the status screen, then hit "Setup", Then "Lights" and it's in the lights list. I have a 2014 mk7 so this is MIB1. Not sure exactly where it would be if you have MIB2 but it shouldn't be too different.

Ralfi
13-04-2017, 08:35 PM
Dynamic Cornering Lights (main bulbs) should be on by default. & there shouldn't be an option to turn them off. Manual states they work above speeds of 10km/h.

The Static Cornering Lights (smaller, halogen bulbs) however, have an option to turn on/off. These will turn on at speeds below ~40km/h.

(Page 116 of the manual).

Mattlock
13-04-2017, 08:45 PM
Interesting. I hadn't realised that.

I have an MIB2 MY16 R and I have that option. I just thought it turned on the halogen based bulbs at the side of the car.

I have never noticed the main beam lights turning into corners, I only ever notice the lights that must be the static ones turning on and off.

Dynamic Cornering lights are turned on with an option for early, medium and late.


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nardini2016
13-04-2017, 08:49 PM
Cheers[emoji854]


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TJG
13-04-2017, 09:45 PM
Interesting - Page 117 of my manual says I can turn Dynamic Lighting on/off in setup and change how it works with driving profile.
Different years - different configurations :cool:

Mattlock
13-04-2017, 10:46 PM
Interesting - Page 117 of my manual says I can turn Dynamic Lighting on/off in setup and change how it works with driving profile.
Different years - different configurations :cool:

Yeah, that's the early/late setting. In Eco they're off and in Race it's on Early.

I just don't recall ever seeing the impact of it making a difference. Mine is always on (has been since the day I bought it). I've only ever noticed the early/late/off making a difference to the static lights.




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carbonester
14-04-2017, 06:01 PM
Just watch the startup sequence at night. My MY16 R does the following:
1. Both Dip low
2. Left light moves left, right light moves right. This means they are adaptive.
3. Both lights move back to the dipped low position
4. Both lights raise up to the normal level.

When driving it's only really obvious when i'm on the highway with my high beams on.

TJG
14-04-2017, 06:09 PM
I don't really notice the lights turn into the corner, bit I often notice them straighten up after the corner.

Jonesaus
14-04-2017, 08:08 PM
I have a mk6 gti ed35 and it has them. You notice it when driving down suburban back streets when swerving around parked cars etc


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Mattlock
14-04-2017, 09:01 PM
It's obviously quite subtle as I've never been aware of it. I only notice the static lights as it's pronounced and a completely different colour temperature.


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daveaus
09-05-2017, 02:15 PM
Hi,

I have a Golf Mk7 GTI which I purchased second hand.

The previous owner replaced the factory headlights with a LED / Xenon cheap Chinese combo.

One of the lights often fails resulting in a light on the dash, it comes back on sometimes after going over a bump.

I ordered a replacement Xenon Ballast for that side since it looked like the easiest to replace but that hasn't helped.

Next I want to try replacing the bulb, before pulling the car apart can someone suggest what bulb I buy so I only have to take everything apart once.

Is replacing one of these after market bulbs the same process as replacing the factory Xenon bulbs?

Thanks!

AdamD
10-05-2017, 08:44 AM
The previous owner replaced the factory headlights with a LED / Xenon cheap Chinese combo.
...
Is replacing one of these after market bulbs the same process as replacing the factory Xenon bulbs?

That's difficult to know unless you can identify the brand/model of aftermarket headlight you've got.

You might want to read through this thread (now merged), but also possibly:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/group-buy-aftermarket-bixenon-headlights-winpower-lamps-98267.html
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/volkswagen-xenon-led-headlights-led-taillight-oem-retrofitted-quality-check-113096.html
Etc.

Rufus1000
10-07-2017, 10:29 AM
Hi

Looking to replace my low beam h7 globes as want something brighter than standard. I have heard that Osram Night breakers are good?

Looking to throw out to good clean white light.


thanks

agentthumb
10-07-2017, 10:42 AM
I have Philips extreme night vision 130. Did a review in the "headlights" thread. Have a look. Would recommend them a million times.

Here's the link to the post: Headlights - Discussion and Questions

Headlights - Discussion and Questions (https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=424&share_tid=87200&share_pid=1182746&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Evwwatercooled%2Ecom%2Eau%2F forums%2Fshowpost%2Ephp%3Fp%3D1182746&share_type=t)


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Rufus1000
10-07-2017, 11:10 AM
They look pretty good. I want to avoid having the retina burning lights you see on some ricers.

agentthumb
10-07-2017, 11:18 AM
They look pretty good. I want to avoid having the retina burning lights you see on some ricers.

Ya these are good. They throw out true "white" light, not the blue tinge you normally get from bulbs trying to imitate led or xenon. And as they are halogen bulbs, the reflector geometry doesn't change. So the light are still focused, properly spread out, and cuts off where they are supposed to.

I've tried Osram before, but think the Philips are as good as it gets without running higher wattage bulbs or going HID.

LED replacements are the worst, you get a huge bright spot in front of you, and nothing pointed into the distance... it just throws light everywhere to blind people.

Hid upgrades without proper reflector / projector and blinds are the second worst!


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Rufus1000
10-07-2017, 11:36 AM
I was very disappointed by the brightness of the DRL's, not being LED makes them dull in comparison with other cars. My wifes Xtrail DRLS are LED and they at very bright. is there any solution to get better light from them with Halogens?

agentthumb
10-07-2017, 11:46 AM
I was very disappointed by the brightness of the DRL's, not being LED makes them dull in comparison with other cars. My wifes Xtrail DRLS are LED and they at very bright. is there any solution to get better light from them with Halogens?

I'm not too sure, I had a quick look a year or so ago and couldn't find anything that's good quality.

I've seen a few golfs coming the other way and tbh, never thought visibility of the halogen DRLs to be an issue. This is even when looking into the sun, so I'm not too fussed.

I have seen a few golfs whose owners swapped the bulbs out for something that's more blue, I'm not sure how that affects the highbeam tho, as they are the same bulb.

And unless they are led, any blue filter that try's to make halogen look blue is going to reduce the effectiveness of the light.


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Ralfi
12-07-2017, 11:54 AM
Apologies if already asked, but does anyone know if it's possible to change the indicators only within the MK7 GTI Bi-Xenon cluster, to the 'scrolling LED' type?

Or if they even exist is probably what I should ask first?

veew
13-07-2017, 06:51 AM
Hi,

I have a Golf Mk7 GTI which I purchased second hand.

The previous owner replaced the factory headlights with a LED / Xenon cheap Chinese combo.

One of the lights often fails resulting in a light on the dash, it comes back on sometimes after going over a bump.

I ordered a replacement Xenon Ballast for that side since it looked like the easiest to replace but that hasn't helped.

Next I want to try replacing the bulb, before pulling the car apart can someone suggest what bulb I buy so I only have to take everything apart once.

Is replacing one of these after market bulbs the same process as replacing the factory Xenon bulbs?

Thanks!

Hey mate,

Haven't been back on this thread for sometime but saw your post.

One of the guys in the WPlamps group buy bought Morimoto HIDs which he said was a significant improvement in light output. He had to take out the headlights to do this.

Spyder Auto Installation: 2010-13 VW Golf/GTI Mk VI Projector Headlights (Non-HID) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCrmc_d68MI)

pologti18t
16-07-2017, 04:09 PM
Spyder Auto Installation: 2010-13 VW Golf/GTI Mk VI Projector Headlights (Non-HID) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCrmc_d68MI)

Thats a US spec Mk6 Golf GTi. Not sure if applicable to MK7

Rufus1000
20-07-2017, 04:23 PM
Does anyone run LED H11 globes in their foglights? if so, which ones? or is a brighter halogen h11 the go?

daveaus
10-08-2017, 07:20 PM
Has anyone had success with Chinese LED lights? My car came with a LED + HID combo which and the lights are always going out and I can't work out how to access the globe plus there is condensation in there so I think I have to replace them.

IsDon
10-08-2017, 07:27 PM
Has anyone had success with Chinese LED lights? My car came with a LED + HID combo which and the lights are always going out and I can't work out how to access the globe plus there is condensation in there so I think I have to replace them.

I heard the Chinese lights are a bit squinty.

daveaus
10-08-2017, 07:33 PM
I heard the Chinese lights are a but squinty.

How to Talk Australians - Episode 1: ?G?DAY KNACKERS? - YouTube (https://youtu.be/DHQRZXM-4xI?t=1m11s)

point
15-08-2017, 03:06 PM
If it's any help to anyone here stuck with the ugly halogen/candle light headlights on their MK7 and can't justify the cost and effort of a xenon retrofit - there's some decent bulb upgrades.

i use a h7 Osram Nightbreaker Laser in my low beam. These are a newer release and an upgrade on the night breaker unlimited. These are BRIGHT - claimed at +130% brightness over a standard bulb (Unlimited is +110+), the light spread is slightly longer and wider than stock but the cut off is essentially the same. Everywhere within this area is far brighter, having driven some OEM 4300k Xenon equipped cars, these honestly come pretty close in brightness. Colour wise they are whiter than stock although not the whitest halogen bulb around and they don't make the reflector bulb at all blue when turned off - that said the cooler colour temperature is noticeable. Osram Night Breaker Laser H7 Car Headlight Bulbs | PowerBulbs (https://www.powerbulbs.com/au/product/osram-night-breaker-laser-h7-twin)

At present there aren't many replacement h15 high beam bulbs available although I bought the Osram Cool Blue Intense bulbs for these. When in DRL mode these don't make the light appreciably whiter although at full power in high beam mode the beam is claimed to be 3700k and they appear to match the Nightbreaker Laser low beam in colour. Most interestingly, they claim to be 20% brighter than the stock osram bulbs. On the road this 20% feels massive! They appear MUCH brighter with the light spreading wider and far further down the road. Possibly the reflector design on the mk7 projects this extra brightness very well or possibly it's the cooler colour temperature but while these are an expensive bulb they make the high beam much better. OSRAM Cool Blue Intense H15 Car Headlight Bulbs | PowerBulbs (https://www.powerbulbs.com/au/product/osram-cool-blue-intense-h15-twin)