Tyre recommendations for the Mk7

[cathaldinneen]

Hey Guys,

I've ordered a 110 TDI Highline MK7 which all going well, should be arriving at my dealers mid-late July. As an option I purchased the 18" Rotary wheels. For those of you who also purchased these stunning wheels, what tyres did you decide on ?

I was looking at maybe high priced : Pirelli PZero Rosso they seem to be great performance tyres but can get low life K's.

Anyone else got recommendations ? The wheel takes a 225/45/18 tyre. Also I will be selling the stock Djion 17" wheels and tyres in august if anyone is looking for them ?

[team_v]

Hey Guys,

I've ordered a 110 TDI Highline MK7 which all going well, should be arriving at my dealers mid-late July. As an option I purchased the 18" Rotary wheels. For those of you who also purchased these stunning wheels, what tyres did you decide on ?

I was looking at maybe high priced : Pirelli PZero Rosso they seem to be great performance tyres but can get low life K's.

Anyone else got recommendations ? The wheel takes a 225/45/18 tyre. Also I will be selling the stock Djion 17" wheels and tyres in august if anyone is looking for them ?

I don't really understand.
Did you order the 18" wheels as a factory or dealer fit option?
If so they will be fitted with factory provided rubber (generally whatever is available at the time) and you won't receive the stock 17" wheels.

[Martin]

If so they will be fitted with factory provided rubber (generally whatever is available at the time) and you won't receive the stock 17" wheels.

Indeed, that's what you would expect to happen


The wheel takes a 225/45/18 tyre.

More likely to be 225/40/18


I was looking at maybe high priced : Pirelli PZero Rosso they seem to be great performance tyres but can get low life K's. Anyone else got recommendations ?

See this thread for a range of options and comments:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f39/goodyear-eagle-f1-asymmetric-2-tempe-tyres-sydney-225-40-18-%24250-84435.html

There are many threads discussing Golf/GTI tyres in this size

[cathaldinneen]

I don't really understand.
Did you order the 18" wheels as a factory or dealer fit option?
If so they will be fitted with factory provided rubber (generally whatever is available at the time) and you won't receive the stock 17" wheels.

Fair enough, I shall explain myself better. The wheels are a dealer fitted option and are an extra cost onto of the car, hence why I get my 17" as well.

The problem is the tyre options are endless, I know a couple of other forum contributes have purchased the rotary wheels so it would be interesting to see what they have on them, be it factory stock rubber or their own preference.

[cathaldinneen]

More likely to be 225/40/18


Yeah your right, typo on my behalf.


See this thread for a range of options and comments:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f39/goodyear-eagle-f1-asymmetric-2-tempe-tyres-sydney-225-40-18-%24250-84435.html

There are many threads discussing Golf/GTI tyres in this size

Great, thanks mate I'll check it out !!

[team_v]

Fair enough, I shall explain myself better. The wheels are a dealer fitted option and are an extra cost onto of the car, hence why I get my 17" as well.

The problem is the tyre options are endless, I know a couple of other forum contributes have purchased the rotary wheels so it would be interesting to see what they have on them, be it factory stock rubber or their own preference.

Dealer fitted optional wheels already come shod in rubber and I believe they keep the stock wheels on hand.
May need to check on that one.

The exception wold be if you were to purchase your own set of wheels and have the dealer fit them after delivery.

[cathaldinneen]

Dealer fitted optional wheels already come shod in rubber and I believe they keep the stock wheels on hand.
May need to check on that one.

The exception wold be if you were to purchase your own set of wheels and have the dealer fit them after delivery.


Talking to the dealer, the alloy wheels are a 'Dealer Accessory' and have to be ordered separately. Hence why they don't come with rubber. Thanks for your concern team_v, but I'm on top of it with the dealer.

[team_v]

Talking to the dealer, the alloy wheels are a 'Dealer Accessory' and have to be ordered separately. Hence why they don't come with rubber. Thanks for your concern team_v, but I'm on top of it with the dealer.

No worries.
Just saw a lot of people with the Golf R upgrading to dealer accessory 19" wheels and they never got their standard 18's.

[pologti18t]

Michelin Pilot Sport 3

[cathaldinneen]

Michelin Pilot Sport 3

You reckon ? Do you drive on these yourself?

[brad]

You reckon ? Do you drive on these yourself?
I'd choose Michelin PS3 over any Pirelli any day. Michelin have always worked well for me & Pirelli less so.

Besides

I was looking at maybe high priced : Pirelli PZero Rosso they seem to be great performance tyres but can get low life K'sYou haven't actually said what you want from a tyre.
PS3 will give good performance in the wet & dry, comfortable ride & low noise that would satisfy most drivers. Mileage totally depends on the driver, road conditions, etc but in a FWD with tyre pressures checked & maintained properly, a good wheel alignment & x-rotation every 7500km-10,000km you'd expect ~30,000km+ out of them. I know I'd probably get 45,000km+.

Plenty of other good stuff out there. Toyo Teo, Goodyear F1A2, Conti5, Yokohama DB, etc.

[Amalgam]

I have Continental ExtremeContact DW on my EVO imported from tirerack.com. They are well priced and a great performer with good reviews.

The ContiSportContact 5 on the Passat are also excellent and are now standard fit on HSV GTS.

[pologti18t]

You reckon ? Do you drive on these yourself?

No. I currently have the older Michelin Precedas2. The PS3 is kinda of the successor.
My mate went from Precedas on his MX5 to PS3. Loves the new PS3. Great in the wet and dry

If you want something cheaper and more comfort oriented you could try the Kumho KU39. Its their luxury/Performance tyre.

[Zogger]

Had the ps3's on my mk5 gti. The tire was brilliant in the wet and dry. Will certainly be changing the conties on the mk6 gti to ps3.

[cktsi]

PS3 were outstanding for wet and dry grip on my mk6 118tsi. However, they were noisier than the eco tyres that were OEM. Fuel consumption increased from 7.2l/100 to 7.8l/100.... Largely suburban hilly sydney driving. I thought the fuel penalty was worth the extra safety and FUN.

If i still had the vehicle i might have gone for something different yet again. Maybe the assymetrics 2 or pirelli cinturato 7. If i was to get the best.... michelin super pilot sports.

I could give you my current experience, but they are irrelevant as my wheel size is completely different to yours, so these links may help. I found them when i did some hard core researching for my current ride.

MOTOR mag tyre test


MOTOR Magazine 2013 Tyre Test - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31810)

Some other site

Tyre test of AutoBild: finding of best tyres (225/45R17; 3.2012)212 | Laneks (http://www.laneks.lv/en/tests/read/autobild-2012-summer1.html)

This is less relevant as they cover US tyres

Monsters of Grip: Nine Summer-Performance Tires Tested - Comparison Test - Car and Driver (http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/monsters-of-grip-nine-summer-performance-tires-tested-comparison-test)

[cathaldinneen]

Hey guys,

Just to give you an update on what I decided to go with. Surprise, Surprise, I went with the Michelin Pilot Sports 3 over anything else .... :P

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/08/IMG_3997_zps79d3f4be-1.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/cathaldinneen/media/Golf%20Pics/IMG_3997_zps79d3f4be.jpg.html)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/08/IMG_3995_zps6a7fbe28-1.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/cathaldinneen/media/Golf%20Pics/IMG_3995_zps6a7fbe28.jpg.html)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/08/IMG_3994_zps204c0a4e-1.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/cathaldinneen/media/Golf%20Pics/IMG_3994_zps204c0a4e.jpg.html)

The car came fitted with Pirelli Cinturato P7's which were good and quite a comfortable ride. The Michelin's though are phenomenal for grip.

Comfort: A firmer ride that the Pirelli but hard to compare given the increase in wheel radius. Still far from back breaking hard.

Ascetics: As the profile is only 40% they look really nice, I hope you agree too. The sidewalls project a little outside the wheel too which might give that little protection.

Noise: The MKVII is very well insulated from road noise. I don't hear a thing in city or highway driving, I did go over some coarse bitumen on a country road and it was quite noticeable so this may be a factor for other buyers.

Fuel Economy: The tyre has a 'green leaf' associated with it, which I assume means it is somewhat more economical, than what I'm not sure. All I know is my L/100Km has gone up maybe by .4 or .5 over the Pirelli. Still it is hard to be scientific about these things because I'm having more fun with the PS3's and when I had the Pirelli's I was taking it very easy as the car was brand new.

Performance: On Ekka day I took the car for a spin to Mount Tambourine with the Missus and I can easy say these tyres were a pleasure, they gave soooo much grip into every corner and really showed their racing pedigree.

Wet Weather: It hasn't rained in Brisbane since I got they new tyres, excited to sell how they handle.

Where to Buy: I did a lot of research on prices for these tyres and ended up getting them from Kane in Kiparing Goodyear (http://www.goodyearautocare.com.au/centric/gac2/dealer_locator.jsp?address=kiparing). I know your thinking, Goodyear selling Michelin, that can't be right ? But Yes, a mate put me in touch with Kane and as he's just taken over this franchise he is giving some extremely good deals on tyres. We got this fitted and allined for $85 cheaper per tyre that anyone in Brisbane CBD. So if you're in Brissie worth giving this guy a call.


Finally, if anyones interested I'm selling my old Golf MKVII 7 Highline Djion 17" wheels & Pirelli Cinturato P7 tyres (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f24/golf-mkvii-7-highline-djion-17-wheels-pirelli-cinturato-p7-89108.html)

[s4206465]

Hey Cathaldinneen, how much did u end up paying for the tires in total? I'm currently upgrading my OEM wheels for my Jetta to the Motorsport wheels (225/40/R18 as well). Cheers!

[nat225]

Hey guys,

Just to give you an update on what I decided to go with. Surprise, Surprise, I went with the Michelin Pilot Sports 3 over anything else .... :P

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/08/IMG_3997_zps79d3f4be-1.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/cathaldinneen/media/Golf%20Pics/IMG_3997_zps79d3f4be.jpg.html)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/08/IMG_3995_zps6a7fbe28-1.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/cathaldinneen/media/Golf%20Pics/IMG_3995_zps6a7fbe28.jpg.html)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/08/IMG_3994_zps204c0a4e-1.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/cathaldinneen/media/Golf%20Pics/IMG_3994_zps204c0a4e.jpg.html)

.........

the car sits far too high for 18" wheels. it needs to go lower.

it's often something that people forget, with bigger wheels often sufficient (not crazy low) lowering is needed to maintain the good and balanced aesthetic look unless it's a SUV.

but it's probably just me...:emo_baghead:

[Sirocco20348]

The height of the car is perfect, please let us not end up like vwvortex

[jarryd]

sorry but I have to agree with the height , the car looks amazing ( I love the colour and I love the rims ) but I think it needs to be dropped just a tad , ive seen another 7 over near my work with 18's ( im pretty sure ) and it sits way to high in the flesh too

[Mountainman]

The height of the car is perfect, please let us not end up like vwvortex

+1 It looks perfect.

[AdamD]

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/08/IMG_3995_zps6a7fbe28-1.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/cathaldinneen/media/Golf%20Pics/IMG_3995_zps6a7fbe28.jpg.html)



the car sits far too high for 18" wheels. it needs to go lower.

I personally would drop it between 20-25mm (up to an inch) or so, but no more. That'd restore it to an OEM-like position in terms of arch gap. At present it sits higher than you'd see a factory-delivered sporty Golf running 18s.

[cathaldinneen]

I personally would drop it between 20-25mm (up to an inch) or so, but no more. That'd restore it to an OEM-like position in terms of arch gap. At present it sits higher than you'd see a factory-delivered sporty Golf running 18s.

Yes, I agree it does need to go lower for a sportier look but I'd hate to compromise on comfort or drivability ( in terms of curbs, speed-bumps etc)

20 -25 mm sounds about right, How would I go about investigating this ? How would this effect my warranty ?

[Dano™]

20-25mm should not effect the warranty only a major change to the geometry would give you problems/effect your warranty if you made a claim for a suspension component

[brad]

20-25mm should not effect the warranty only a major change to the geometry would give you problems/effect your warranty if you made a claim for a suspension component
Change the springs & any warranty on dampers or the top mounts goes out the window. Possibly other suspension components too but it would be up to the Service Manager at the dealership & whether he wants to play hard-ball or not.


How would I go about investigating this ?
read the various suspension threads on this forum?

If your car is relatively new the suspension will settle 5-10mm over time anyway.

[nat225]

+1 for Brad.

Plus In my own experience, some service managers should not be allowed to serve customers as they do not have sufficient logic / common sense.

At one point I complained about noise in my door / window sill between B & C pillars when going over a bump or the car is at an angle (due to dry rubber / felt seal that is in contact with the door frame, very common in audi / vw and there is a dedicated thread in mk6 section).

The service manager blamed my coilover for it!! No other solution, period.

Bilstein must have designed PSS10 to make door felt liner and car paint stickier than stock suspension;-)

[cnr]

Might be a silly question. Run flat tyres ruin the riding. But does anyone think its stiffer tyre wall will save our lives especially in highway or freeway? My tires have not went flat when driving. Is it really dangerous as rumor?

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[brad]

Might be a silly question. Run flat tyres ruin the riding. But does anyone think its stiffer tyre wall will save our lives especially in highway or freeway? My tires have not went flat when driving. Is it really dangerous as rumor?

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Does your car have tyre pressure monitoring? If it does then run-flats will have little value add.

I haven't had a catastrophic release of tyre pressure in 35yrs of motoring so personally, I can't see the advantages outweighing the trade-offs of RFTs.

If you don't have TPMS then it might be a better solution to add a remote monitored TPMS solution
Orange TPMS: Wheels, Tyres | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/bhp/orange-tpms)

[nat225]

Might be a silly question. Run flat tyres ruin the riding. But does anyone think its stiffer tyre wall will save our lives especially in highway or freeway? My tires have not went flat when driving. Is it really dangerous as rumor?

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Run flats also sharpen the handling.

They could save life by not having to replace your flat tyre on a high speed narrow highway blind spot section (yes i have seen some people happyly stopped at blind corners!).

TPMS is required for all run flats

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[cnr]

Run flats also sharpen the handling.

They could save life by not having to replace your flat tyre on a high speed narrow highway blind spot section (yes i have seen some people happyly stopped at blind corners!).

TPMS is required for all run flats

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Righto. Two month ago my left rear tyre got punctured (which was afterwards told by my dealer) and TPMS sign pop up every week. I've got to inflate tyres every week.

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[nat225]

In that case, there is still a leak. Either from the tyre or cracked wheel section or even the valve stem.

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[Diesel_vert]

Mobility is one advantage of run-flat tyres, since the driver doesn't need to stop immediately if the tyre is punctured - but only up to a distance of 80 km, and at a maximum speed of 80 km/h. If you drive in excess of these requirements, then it's very possible to suffer a blow-out due to heat buildup (in excess of its design capabilities).

If you suffer a slow puncture on a standard tyre on a highway or motorway, and the TPMS system warned you as such, you could probably make it to the next exit, or even onto a tyre shop if nearby. However, if you suffer an instant deflation, you could probably only travel a few kilometres before the tyre quickly overheats and eventually fails.

Vehicle stability and control is another advantage, as run-flat tyres retain similar cornering and handling characteristics even when deflated. This is why the fitment of a TPMS is compulsory in most jurisdictions, otherwise the driver wouldn't be able to tell if the tyre was punctured or not and would continue driving until the tyre completely fails.

Maintaining control when a vehicle suffers a blow-out on standard tyres is a bit more tricky, but is manageable in many circumstances if you remain calm and don't panic. If fitted, the vehicle's stability control system can also assist to some extent.

Tyre manufacturers generally recommend fitting run-flat tyre on wheels with an extended hump (EH2 or EH2+) contour, which ensures that the tyre will not separate from the wheel under zero-inflation conditions. How strictly this is meant to be followed depends on the specific make and model of tyre.

[nat225]

I have seen many bmw tyres replaced with non run flat. Often cost is the main issue. I wonder if they do carry a flat tyre kit (in lieu of the RFT) as basically those bmw cars dont have spare tyre.



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[brad]

Righto. Two month ago my left rear tyre got punctured (which was afterwards told by my dealer) and TPMS sign pop up every week. I've got to inflate tyres every week.

Did you get it repaired & then reset the TPMS?

[brad]

I have seen many bmw tyres replaced with non run flat. Often cost is the main issue. I wonder if they do carry a flat tyre kit (in lieu of the RFT) as basically those bmw cars dont have spare tyre.



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It wasn't cost, it was the crap ride.

They are pretty anal, so bought the BMW Jack kit & various forms of spare. I think 2 of them got the HSV wheel & had the centre bored out for the BMW hub.

[cnr]

Did you get it repaired & then reset the TPMS?

Yep, I reset TPMS after every inflating. Dealer repaired tyre when serving this vehicle. After that, TPMS stays "quiet". Thanks for caring.

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[brad]

Yep, I reset TPMS after every inflating. Dealer repaired tyre when serving this vehicle. After that, TPMS stays "quiet". Thanks for caring.

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Right

your post read as if the dealer had pointed out the problem & you were surprised the TPMS kept activating.

[Idle]

Yesterday I lost a tyre on the South Gippsland highway — just as I ran into the almost perpetual rain band approaching Korumburra (had slowed to about 80K) I hit the mother of all potholes.

Spotted it through the murk at the last second, but too late to avoid dropping the RH front wheel into it, fortunately the rear wheel missed it.

A few K's further on the tyre warning light came on — had to pull over & change the wheel in the pouring rain,

The tyre ( 225/45/R17 91W) with barely 200K on it (the car's new and the first I've had with low profile tyres...) is a writeoff.

Couldn't find the exact replacement here either (Polish made Bridgestone Turanza) so near enough will have to be good enough (same make, similar pattern ER300 Turanza ECO from Japan.)

Wasn't the only victim either — just a bit further on from where we changed the wheel (my first ever use of a spacesaver, the inventor of which should be dangled upside down next the the guy who thought up speed humps...) the police were supervising the loading of a number of cars with flats onto tow trucks.

Had to complete the journey and return to Melb. on the spacesaver with the warning light on all the way.

What really irks me is that, despite the road from where I hit the first pothole to the end of the recently rebuilt section of road (the parts that were not rebuilt were fine — must prove something...) being riddled with huge holes, there was no warning — they couldn't have just appeared overnight and it is a major highway.

Incidentally, the Leongatha tyre guy who changed the spare from front wheel to back for me said he'd been swamped all week with tyres and wheels damaged on that stretch (wouldn't accept any payment for the job. either.)

At our destination I heard it had been a subject on the local radio that morning, and on our way home there were trailer-borne illuminated signs in evidence. I'll have a go at Vic Roads, but don't really expect to get anywhere.

[AdamD]

At our destination I heard it had been a subject on the local radio that morning, and on our way home there were trailer-borne illuminated signs in evidence. I'll have a go at Vic Roads, but don't really expect to get anywhere.

As far as I'm aware, the maintainer of the road (council, state or federal government depending on the road) has a duty of care to ensure it's in a safe condition. Sounds like in this instance there's plenty of evidence to suggest that this wasn't the case. I've heard plenty of stories where motorists have been reimbursed the cost of replacement tyres and rim/suspension repairs due to bad potholes that weren't repaired quickly, so you may be in luck.

[Wezza]

As per title i've got some 18's coming my way just wondering if anyone can chime in with some tyre manufacturer/model recommendations.

Am i right in saying the GTI's come with 225 /40 /18 as standard?

Thanks.

[brad]

Mate, do a bit of a search/browse - done to death several times over with a cherry on top. Mk5, Mk6, Mk7, R, Octy vRS - all same, same in 18s

[nat225]

Go with linglong or bob jane allrounder if budget is tight, just make sure u drive extremely carefully at all times.

Else go with any of the premium brand and u wont go wrong

[avdo_]

Have a look at Hankook Ventus 1 Evo2 or the Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2.

I've got the Goodyears on my R and the Hankooks on the Tig, both amazing tyres that you can get cheap-ish if you look at the right places

[Wezza]

Ended up getting some Continental Contisports $219 a corner.

[Wezza]

On a side note: I'm still torn between 225/40/18 or 225/45/18 anyone have any advise on this? Or does anyone have photos of them running 45's? Thanks!

[epigoo]

I am running 225/40/18 on my Jetta MKV and it due for replacement and I am thinking to put the new nexen SU1 for $190 each. I am happy with this one because it currently on my polo.

[Barbaros]

No one talking about Pirelli ?

[irossiter]

225/40 and 225/45 are different size tyres. One has a larger diameter. It will stuff up your speedo and will be illegal.

[brad]

No one talking about Pirelli ?
Every time I've had something to do with Pirelli I've been disappointed. For the same money you can get Michelin or Bridgestone, both appear to have more consistent build quality.


225/40 and 225/45 are different size tyres. One has a larger diameter. It will stuff up your speedo and will be illegal.
Indeed they are but the change is (nominally) 637mm to 660mm which is 23mm. Depending on what the largest diameter tyre available is it might be OK if it is <15mm difference.
Other states may be different but NSW is:

The outside diameter of the wheel and tyre combination must be no more than 15mm over the largest diameter
wheel and tyre combination specified for the vehicle and not more than 15mm below the smallest diameter wheel
and tyre combination specified for the vehicle
Even if it is outside the allowable variation, it might not "stuff up the speedo". I run 20mm over the largest available diameter & my speedo is perfect 1=1.

Getting up into those diameters (655mm+), the biggest issue is rubbing on the guards when you hit a bump mid-corner. If the vehicle is lowered then there will probably be interference.

Nominal sizing also doesn't take into9 account variations in manufacturers actual sizing & the profile of the tyre's shoulder

[Wezza]

Michelin, Bridgestone, Pirelli all big bucks. Can't justify using a performance tyre on a 103tsi ;)

From what i gather and as above the larger tyre size of a 225/45 should actually correct the speedo as they allegedly read under. I'm lowered and have read heaps of conflicting accounts on rub issues. Main reason i was looking at more sidewall in the tyre was for comfort.

[Brendan_A]

I wouldn't be skimping on good quality tyre's. Only thing keeping you on the road!

[Wezza]

I wouldn't be skimping on good quality tyre's. Only thing keeping you on the road!

You're absolutely right. At the same time Continentals are a reputable brand that came in at half the price of the rest.

[brad]

Michelin, Bridgestone, Pirelli all big bucks. Can't justify using a performance tyre on a 103tsi ;)

From what i gather and as above the larger tyre size of a 225/45 should actually correct the speedo as they allegedly read under. I'm lowered and have read heaps of conflicting accounts on rub issues. Main reason i was looking at more sidewall in the tyre was for comfort.
Continental are a performance tyre as well & about the same price as the other 3.

if you can't justify a performance tyre on a 103tsi then why run 18s & lower it - contradict much?

If you don't know whether *your* speedo reads under or not & by how much then best not to fiddle as you are only guessing rather than making a considered choice.

[Wezza]

Continental are a performance tyre as well & about the same price as the other 3.

if you can't justify a performance tyre on a 103tsi then why run 18s & lower it - contradict much?

If you don't know whether *your* speedo reads under or not & by how much then best not to fiddle as you are only guessing rather than making a considered choice.

Strange you must know something i don't? I phoned around all my local tyre fitters in Perth and Continental came out at half the price of the rest, if they're also classed as a performance tyre great. Bridgestone etc were closer to the 350-400 mark a corner.

I lowered my car & will be changing the wheels purely for aesthetics. I think the majority of people you ask will agree cars in general look so much better with a decent drop and a nice set of wheels. So no i try not to contradict too much ;)

[brad]

Strange you must know something i don't? I phoned around all my local tyre fitters in Perth and Continental came out at half the price of the rest, if they're also classed as a performance tyre great. Bridgestone etc were closer to the 350-400 mark a corner.
Tyre pricing is very much dependant on the dealer & the volume they purchase, so prices vary greatly.

In 225/40r18 at my local tyre place
B/S RE050A = $220
CSC5 =$220
GY F1A2 = $235
Michelin PS3 = $230

I guess I'm just lucky I have a cheap tyre shop nearby.

[Wezza]

Tyre pricing is very much dependant on the dealer & the volume they purchase, so prices vary greatly.

In 225/40r18 at my local tyre place
B/S RE050A = $220
CSC5 =$220
GY F1A2 = $235
Michelin PS3 = $230

I guess I'm just lucky I have a cheap tyre shop nearby.

May i ask what tyre dealer these quotes are from Brad? If i have one local to me might give them a call.

[donweather]

Tempe Tyres I believe Wezza.

[donweather]

Posted this over on the occy thread but didnt get a huge response so thought id post here also.

Ok here's some questions I'd appreciate people's opinions/advice on.

Looking at a new set of rims and tyres for my RS. Have narrowed it down to two sets of rims in 18*8 as follows:

Cades Bern 18*8 ET42, 9.9 kg per rim
ECS Alzor 349 - 18*8 ET45 11.1 kgs per rim
(Stock Neptunes - 18*7.5 ET51 13.4 kg per rim)

Both prices of the Bern and Alzor delivered to my door are about the same. Cades marginally more expensive around $35 per rim. So based on the above, should I choose the lighter rim and pay the slight extra, or given the fact the Alzor's are lighter than stock anyway, I'm getting an advantage over stock?

Secondly is tyres? Stock tyres are 225/40/R18, however going to an 8 inch wide rim as opposed to a 7.5 inch stock rim, I've noticed in some pics (see below) that the 225 wide tyre doesn't quite stretch well enough and you get the rim protruding out past the lip/edge of the tyre. I don't like the look of this nor the extra risk of gutter rash on your new rims. So I'm thinking of going with a wider tyre.....235/40/R18 to lessen the stretch of the tyre on the new wider rim. These size tyres are typically cheaper also than the 225s.

Will the wider tyre assist (or de-assist) in the handling/steering of the car (stock suspension and don't intend to lower the car as I tow a jetski)? Will a wider tyre assist (or de-assist) with lessening axle tramping?

I recognise my speedo will be slightly out with the the 235 tyre due to the slightly larger rolling radius (4mm on the radius, 8mm on the diameter).

Based on my calcs from the website below, here's the additional poke of the rims and tyres above

Cades Bern 18*8 ET42, 225 tyres - 9mm poke over stock, 235 tyres - 14mm poke over stock
ECS Alzor 349 - 18*8 ET45, 225 tyres - 6mm poke over stock, 235 tyres - 11mm poke over stock

My rough as guts measurements show I have about 10mm poke from stock rims and 225 tyres to the edge of the guards on the fronts and around 20mm on the rears. So the Cades with 235 tyres will likely extend out too much at the front by around 4mm? Should I be worried about this?

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Apologies for the long winded post and varied and many queries, but I'd appreciate your thoughts and opinions on the above thanks.

[brad]

May i ask what tyre dealer these quotes are from Brad? If i have one local to me might give them a call.
As DW said, Tempe tyres in Sydney. They have an online presence & deliver. If you want GY F1A2 there's a dealer in Vic that can freight as well. Don't forget to allow $20/tyre for fit/balance at your end.

[Wezza]

As DW said, Tempe tyres in Sydney. They have an online presence & deliver. If you want GY F1A2 there's a dealer in Vic that can freight as well. Don't forget to allow $20/tyre for fit/balance at your end.

Thanks! Appreciate the advise.

[donweather]

Further to my post above, will the Cades ET42 have any issues with clashing with the stock RS brake calipers?

[Wezza]

Tyre pricing is very much dependant on the dealer & the volume they purchase, so prices vary greatly.

In 225/40r18 at my local tyre place
B/S RE050A = $220
CSC5 =$220
GY F1A2 = $235
Michelin PS3 = $230

I guess I'm just lucky I have a cheap tyre shop nearby.

For those that are interested all these prices are from local Perth tyre dealers for a 225/40r18 (As you can see prices vary wildly!) I've changed my mind and after reading a heap of positive reviews and due to a decent price i have decided to go for the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's from Tyre Power in Osborne Park.......

Tyre Power
B/S RE050A: $420
CSC5: $350
GY F1A2: $250
Michelin PS3: $285

Bob Jane
B/S RE050A: $399
CSC5: $389
GY F1A2: N/A
Michelin PS3: $289

Discount Tyres
B/S RE050A: $430
CSC5: $415
GY F1A2: N/A
Michelin PS3: $290

Beaurepaires
B/S RE050A: N/A
CSC5: N/A
GY F1A2: $374
Michelin PS3: N/A

Kmart Tyres
B/S RE050A: $355
CSC5: $420
GY F1A2: $352
Michelin PS3: $380

West State Tyres
B/S RE050A: $395
CSC5: $351
GY F1A2: $507
Michelin PS3: N/A

[brad]

For those that are interested all these prices are from local Perth tyre dealers for a 225/40r18 (As you can see prices vary wildly!) I've changed my mind and after reading a heap of positive reviews and due to a decent price i have decided to go for the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's from Tyre Power in Osborne Park.......

Tyre Power
B/S RE050A: $420
CSC5: $350
GY F1A2: $250
Michelin PS3: $285


Good tyre, good price, good choice.

[Alex31]

I have 225/45 R17 tyres on 17x7 wheels on my golf atm.
Could I put 235 or 245 on the same wheel without causing any issues???


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[ZantetsukenJ]

225/45 are the max you can use for 17x7 without going for bigger rims

215/45 would be most ideal for your rims as you won't be flexing the side wall as much

17x7.5 is ideal for 225/45, max is 235/45 ect

[Timilla]

Just wanted to share my research which may be of assistance to others.
I'm definitely not a wheel and tyre nut, and don't have much knowledge, but my priorities are performance, especially in the wet, and price.
My 2014 Golf GTi runs on 225/40R18

On this site there was a lot of noise surrounding the following tyres:


Michelin Pilot Sport 2 $307
Pilot Sport 3 $256
Pilot Super Sport $278

Pirelli Zero $265


BS Potenza RE050A $264 (run flat only)
BS Potenza RE003 $209
BS S001 $315


Eagle F1 $244

The above prices are the best I could find.
I used the following site to search for most of them, then chased up with dealers directly.

Tyresales.com.au (http://Tyresales.com.au) will send the tyres to your local fitter and have them fit for a nominal fee at a great price.

I approached one of the larger Sydney dealers about a wheel and tyre package, and whilst they initially quoted me $1,500 (twice) for 4 wheels with their "premium" tyres (Continental ContiSport 5, or Pirelli P-Zeros), when I rang to book my car in they gave me a new price of $1,700 declaring that these two tyres were the only VW recommended replacement part with a VW OM part number, which meant they were a superior product made in Germany. They went to lengths to steer me away from other tyres, and over complicated the already confusing number of options, explaining that not all PZeros are made the same, or in the same factory or country. :cry:

In the end, I gave up on the new rims, and stuck with the stock Austins on my motor, and got 4 Bridgestone Potenza 003s for the price of 3 during deal time at my local dealer in Newcastle. Fitted and balanced for $630.
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