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XTC838
02-05-2013, 09:37 AM
Volkswagen to bring faster Golf GTI to Wörthersee (http://www.forcegt.com/news/volkswagen-to-bring-faster-golf-gti-to-worthersee/)

Something to look forward to in a few years.

Dutch77
02-05-2013, 10:20 AM
Interesting quote "Ulrich confirming that its chassis, specifically the car’s electronically controlled differential, which is similar to the E-diff on the Ferrari 458, is capable of handling up to around 250 bhp (187kW)."

Any tuning of these engines is going to be nudging or surpassing that even on stage 1.

andrew7
02-05-2013, 10:22 AM
Refers to the upcoming ED 40: timing could work out for the end of my MK6 GTI Lease!

Ryan_R
02-05-2013, 10:24 AM
Could the Ed40 be the Golf GTI Carbon we heard about earlier perhaps?

Might be worth waiting for http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/02/hmmhpng-1.jpg

Golf7
02-05-2013, 12:45 PM
The Carbon is still a long way away, sort of like the MK.6 GTI Cabriolet compared to the normal GTI. It'll appear towards the end of the Golf 7's cycle life, maybe a year before the arrival of the MK.8 which will employ greater use of composites, active aero bits as well as new technology drivetrains. The Mk.7 Carbon will just be a "technology demonstrator" for their new models later on.

Deadpool
02-05-2013, 04:25 PM
Those pictures are from the old W12 GTI they built for the Volkswagen Enthusiasts in England.

In a one off POS that even Clarkson hated.

Ryan_R
02-05-2013, 04:29 PM
Well done, now read the article ;)

zoomda
02-05-2013, 08:26 PM
Interesting quote "Ulrich confirming that its chassis, specifically the car’s electronically controlled differential, which is similar to the E-diff on the Ferrari 458, is capable of handling up to around 250 bhp (187kW)."

Any tuning of these engines is going to be nudging or surpassing that even on stage 1.

That's a concern really. I find it odd that the cars current power output is so close to the limit of the diff.

cktsi
03-05-2013, 02:25 PM
That's a concern really. I find it odd that the cars current power output is so close to the limit of the diff.

Agreed. I also don't want to hear any BS about how VW under rate the handling capability of their components and how there is really a larger margin of error.

take the DQ200 7 speed DSG as an example. It was rated 250Nm max and based on our experiences with shudder and lack of reliability I reckon that rating was right.

Tobes_WIR35
04-05-2013, 06:49 AM
That's a concern really. I find it odd that the cars current power output is so close to the limit of the diff.

I think what they most likely mean is that as a manufacturer they see no additional risk using the diff in a car that has 187kW. Ie they are equally as confident using that diff in a car with 150kW as they are with a 187kW car. They night deem, say 1 in 5000 breakages acceptable risk, but going up to 188kW might put them into say 1 in 4000 breakages which is not acceptable, so 187kW is where they draw the line.

It would still have a large safety factor engineered into it.