Any one heard of Viezu tuning

[WaxonWaxoff]

Appear to be the cheapest, but I've never heard of anyone's experience?

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[WaxonWaxoff]

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Read it, doesn't say anything apart from acknowledging its existence, but thanks!

[noone]

yeah, they did a fairly large launch here in the last year or so. Popular with the Golf R boys (or it was when I looked).

think you also need to buy the loader device, how much is it nowdays?

Not sure anyone is doing a map file for less than CC, but I have not looked at pricing in a while, Giac and Revo could be giving it away...

[Deadpool]

They are a Forum sponsor and a reputable Tuner.

[h100vw]

Not sure anyone is doing a map file for less than CC, but I have not looked at pricing in a while, Giac and Revo could be giving it away...

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f180/9n-polo-gti-tuning-75844.html

If I am not cheaper, let me know.

Gavin

[WaxonWaxoff]

yeah, they did a fairly large launch here in the last year or so. Popular with the Golf R boys (or it was when I looked).

think you also need to buy the loader device, how much is it nowdays?

Not sure anyone is doing a map file for less than CC, but I have not looked at pricing in a while, Giac and Revo could be giving it away...

GIAC is $995, Revo $899 and APR $1062

[WaxonWaxoff]

I'm thinking the only way to get APR to support the future mods if to get a V-Tune file and do it myself? So they will refund.

[Redliner]

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f180/9n-polo-gti-tuning-75844.html

If I am not cheaper, let me know.

Gavin


I'd choose custom code from Gavin.

[jboogie]

CC from gavin on my GTI.

It goes HAM.

[noone]

V-Tune is not compatible.

Your options post tune come down to selectable files and Lemmiwinks / Custom Settings (both let you fiddle a little in the same way)

Those prices are good, what do you want at the end of the day? If APR is close, thats good for the first month. I've never had to call after leaving, i'd say thats likely the same for 90%+ of Polo's with tunes.

If you want Performance, Giac has shown good dyno results, CC is an ongoing story and seems to have the best numbers for KO3 success, Revo I think have some program, I think... Kai had it? Can't remember the details.

I don't mean to badmouth APR, I've been happily scooting around with V1 with some added ingnition timing for years, but I have my own weighing up to do and am again talking about changing my tune (going on too long).

[WaxonWaxoff]

V-Tune is not compatible.

Your options post tune come down to selectable files and Lemmiwinks / Custom Settings (both let you fiddle a little in the same way)

Those prices are good, what do you want at the end of the day? If APR is close, thats good for the first month. I've never had to call after leaving, i'd say thats likely the same for 90%+ of Polo's with tunes.

If you want Performance, Giac has shown good dyno results, CC is an ongoing story and seems to have the best numbers for KO3 success, Revo I think have some program, I think... Kai had it? Can't remember the details.

I don't mean to badmouth APR, I've been happily scooting around with V1 with some added ingnition timing for years, but I have my own weighing up to do and am again talking about changing my tune (going on too long).

Thanks Ben (your turning out to be very helpful :cool: )

I like that APR is very close ( 3 mins away) the dealer is really nice and has given me quotes for other mods ect. I also like the ability to change back to stock, fault code erase and valet mode. APR made my car alot faster to begin with, but started fading as time went on, as my car adjusted i suppose.

I want the highest performance and a tune i can build upon. I want a full milltek turbo back with down pipe, TIP, Forge intercooler, Forge 008 and CAI (PD160 and K&N panel.) i know the car wont run well with the new downpipe without a tune, a tune with for some reason APR doesnt offer.

I contact viezu, they are 20 mins away, a better price and said:

We offer ongoing free stage upgrades, updates, free tweaks, free new tunes in the event you lose your file due to service centre flash update etc etc so you can't go wrong.
So yes - if you modify - we tweak the file (free) and go from there. For these, it depends on the coding type - we'll have a vPERFORMANCE level of coding, but will need to see the specific coding type before saying whether our Technical Centre can write you a vRace file for it....

Your thoughts?

[Sharkie]

Thanks Ben (your turning out to be very helpful :cool: )

I like that APR is very close ( 3 mins away) the dealer is really nice and has given me quotes for other mods ect. I also like the ability to change back to stock, fault code erase and valet mode. APR made my car alot faster to begin with, but started fading as time went on, as my car adjusted i suppose.

I want the highest performance and a tune i can build upon. I want a full milltek turbo back with down pipe, TIP, Forge intercooler, Forge 008 and CAI (PD160 and K&N panel.) i know the car wont run well with the new downpipe without a tune, a tune with for some reason APR doesnt offer.

I contact viezu, they are 20 mins away, a better price and said:

We offer ongoing free stage upgrades, updates, free tweaks, free new tunes in the event you lose your file due to service centre flash update etc etc so you can't go wrong.
So yes - if you modify - we tweak the file (free) and go from there. For these, it depends on the coding type - we'll have a vPERFORMANCE level of coding, but will need to see the specific coding type before saying whether our Technical Centre can write you a vRace file for it....

Your thoughts?

It is simply not true that a GTI with APR tune will not run well with a down pipe. I run an APR tune with a custom downpipe and a custom FMIC with no issues at all and have done so for about 5 years.

APR only boosts to 0.8 bar sustained and yet was within 5kw of the custom code tune running at 1.0 bar at the latest Brisbane dyno day ......

Not saying CC is bad, far from it, just that APR is still right up there .... I would stay away from all the other tuners out there except for GIAC.

[Transporter]

I would stay away from all the other tuners out there except for GIAC.

That's a bit unfair to say and advise, but I accept your opinion, because it's based on your amateur knowledge.

[Bflat]

Are we really going through this again?

[glidn]

Thanks Ben (your turning out to be very helpful :cool: )

I like that APR is very close ( 3 mins away) the dealer is really nice and has given me quotes for other mods ect. I also like the ability to change back to stock, fault code erase and valet mode. APR made my car alot faster to begin with, but started fading as time went on, as my car adjusted i suppose.

I want the highest performance and a tune i can build upon. I want a full milltek turbo back with down pipe, TIP, Forge intercooler, Forge 008 and CAI (PD160 and K&N panel.) i know the car wont run well with the new downpipe without a tune, a tune with for some reason APR doesnt offer.

I contact viezu, they are 20 mins away, a better price and said:

We offer ongoing free stage upgrades, updates, free tweaks, free new tunes in the event you lose your file due to service centre flash update etc etc so you can't go wrong.
So yes - if you modify - we tweak the file (free) and go from there. For these, it depends on the coding type - we'll have a vPERFORMANCE level of coding, but will need to see the specific coding type before saying whether our Technical Centre can write you a vRace file for it....

Your thoughts?

I would honestly look else where for a Turbo inlet pipe. Additionally,don't waste your money on Any Forge Diverter valves.
They require constant maintenance (owner that don't do this always has issues, seen it first hand all to many times).

Get an Audi S3 710N Diverter Valve cheap and happily holds high boost. Had mine in for almost 7 years on 21psi boost.
No issue's at all.

I have the Forge Boost hoses, so I'm basing this on ownership. Fitment is poor at best. Constantly pops off the turbo.
If I had a factory TIP (turbo inlet pipe) I would happily replace it.

Actually Ideally I would like to replace the whole lot as I have the complete Forge Boost hose kit. In short it's fitment is terrible.
I just have not found a viable solution yet for replacement.

[seangti]

Are we really going through this again?
hahaha.


Waxon - have a detailed read through the Brisbane dyno day results from last year. I think its a sticky. Forge IC may be worth reconsidering, there is quantifiable evidence to its strengths and weaknesses rather than the pee'ing contest we usually get into. The tune side of things is also explored in that thread.

I run forge TIP and DV with a superchips tune, I've never had any concern with my forge gear, though on the research and data provided chose not to get their FMIC, I went with a SeatSport core. I have read of forge DV issues, there are 2 models of DV (007 and 008), one better than another I believe, though I couldn't tell you which one I have or better/worse than another. APR DV's have also had good reviews. I regularly track my car, so it spends a reasonable amount of time under full throttle through 3rd and 4th gear. If the gear was to fail it would have by now.

APR has a sale on this month, so they may be more price competitive.

[VWindahouse]

That's a bit unfair to say and advise, but I accept your opinion, because it's based on your amateur knowledge.

Personally I expect more from a forum Super Moderator but then again he is also a forum Sponsor so the fault ultimately lies with forum Admin.


I would honestly look else where for a Turbo inlet pipe. Additionally,don't waste your money on Any Forge Diverter valves.
They require constant maintenance (owner that don't do this always has issues, seen it first hand all to many times).

Get an Audi S3 710N Diverter Valve cheap and happily holds high boost. Had mine in for almost 7 years on 21psi boost.
No issue's at all.

I have the Forge Boost hoses, so I'm basing this on ownership. Fitment is poor at best. Constantly pops off the turbo.
If I had a factory TIP (turbo inlet pipe) I would happily replace it.

Actually Ideally I would like to replace the whole lot as I have the complete Forge Boost hose kit. In short it's fitment is terrible.
I just have not found a viable solution yet for replacement.

Sorry you have had poor experiences with Forge DV and TIPS. Lucky for us Polo owners I have never seen a failure or poor performance from either product on a Polo since joining the forum 5 years ago. I see you have never owned a polo in your signature.

WaxonWaxoff we have gone to great lengths in this section of the forum to cover off all your recent questions with hard dyno proven data in various threads so please look there first as questions like this only attract egos into what is a great place to talk polo! So please look there first then talk to the tuners individually to form your own opinion and make a decision.

[noone]

You're in there now, you make your own decisions. Lots of opinions, none right or wrong.

My 2c on some comments are that I like my Forge 008, not had ANY issues, nor did I with the Forge Diverter.
As for Tuning alliances and how tunes work with a car, each car is slightly unique, weather it be a slight boost leak you wouldn't know where to find or a knock sensor being a little too sensitive, each car responds slightly differently.

The only Viezu tuned 9N3 GTI's ive read about didn't do anything interesting in terms of power. Not sure what to make of the ability to customize it infinitely, they don't code locally (UK based) if I remember correctly. Send a log, get a new file. Play. If its not acting up, there isn't that much to do, once boost is maxed, timing is as high as timing pull / detonation allows then thats about all there is... I've talked to a lot of tuners about getting more from my Polo, most say don't bother (changing from APR to another brand).

As for upgrade paths, if you're sold on a Miltek, then do it. If you can be swayed, buy a big ass turbo with that same money and get a lot more power (Advice from Bugracer).

I like the Seat / THS intercooler, cheaper and better (even Forge sell it)

Lots of opinions, there is no right and wrong, you have people who will tell you what they have is best and you have people who have years of experience (I'm neither of these, more of a keyboard warrior).

Good luck.

Feel free to keep asking, people get pissy with these threads as the question comes up frequently across all turbo models and the debates can get heated (my tune's better than your tune because X)

If you want to be told what to do, get CC. If nothing else, you can slag Gav all the time on this build thread if you don't like it!

[h100vw]

If you want to be told what to do, get CC. If nothing else, you can slag Gav all the time on this build thread if you don't like it!

That's worth :D from me.

Gavin

[WaxonWaxoff]

You're in there now, you make your own decisions. Lots of opinions, none right or wrong.

My 2c on some comments are that I like my Forge 008, not had ANY issues, nor did I with the Forge Diverter.
As for Tuning alliances and how tunes work with a car, each car is slightly unique, weather it be a slight boost leak you wouldn't know where to find or a knock sensor being a little too sensitive, each car responds slightly differently.

The only Viezu tuned 9N3 GTI's ive read about didn't do anything interesting in terms of power. Not sure what to make of the ability to customize it infinitely, they don't code locally (UK based) if I remember correctly. Send a log, get a new file. Play. If its not acting up, there isn't that much to do, once boost is maxed, timing is as high as timing pull / detonation allows then thats about all there is... I've talked to a lot of tuners about getting more from my Polo, most say don't bother (changing from APR to another brand).

As for upgrade paths, if you're sold on a Miltek, then do it. If you can be swayed, buy a big ass turbo with that same money and get a lot more power (Advice from Bugracer).

I like the Seat / THS intercooler, cheaper and better (even Forge sell it)

Lots of opinions, there is no right and wrong, you have people who will tell you what they have is best and you have people who have years of experience (I'm neither of these, more of a keyboard warrior).

Good luck.

Feel free to keep asking, people get pissy with these threads as the question comes up frequently across all turbo models and the debates can get heated (my tune's better than your tune because X)

If you want to be told what to do, get CC. If nothing else, you can slag Gav all the time on this build thread if you don't like it!

Wow, i didnt mean to offend people, if it was about an APR, GIAC or Revo tune id understand why people are ragging, but there is really very little info on the viezu for our cars. Even the dealer said he never gets them in. he also said "we don't have much local data on them so I'd like to offer it to you for $799 with a free dyno, and at BMR." which is a great price with everything considered.

i might go with them just for a bit of fun, its going to be my project car after all.

By the way what's a BMR? :emo_baghead: (dont worry, its the workshop)

[noone]

Glad you've decided.

[WaxonWaxoff]

Glad you've decided. Think BMR I'd the loader tool.

If its not getting decent numbers on the dyno (at least 40hp gained as promised) then ill just return it on the spot. Noone, i need new tyres, ive got a quote for $120 per corner for the KU31's and $145 for the KU39's. I just want something that going to reduce the wheel spin on lunch any ideas from the keyboard warrior?

[Greg Roles]

I am the oldest dealer for Viezu nowdays, and I reckon Gav and Custom Code have the Polo's pretty well sewn up. APR is definately strong there too, but hard to beat Gav's prices! It comes down to the car, I know where Viezu is strong, and where it isn't. Same as other tuners, we all hear inside gossip on each other! No doubt Viezu UK, just like Custom Code UK, Superchips / Bluefin UK, DNA UK, Revo USA, APR USA, etc etc etc could tweak a tune to be as good, but at times a particular brand has it sorted, so from a customers perspective, why be the test dummy?

I am not bagging Viezu at all. I am gobsmacked at what they can do with cars across the brands, and what they can do with some of the NA cars alone is staggering, such as world leading gains out of AMG's and M series beemers etc. I am currently OBD port tuning a doctors Megane RS250, one of the first around to be tuned via OBD, much like a few other world firsts I have under my belt now. There are definate strengths, and despite the fact tuning has to be one of the most opinionated, competitive and downright ugly industries at times, nothing gives me greater satisfaction than getting a late night text from someone who I have just tuned that just exudes pure joy and excitment. After all, that's what it is ALL about!

All tuners flog the same thing, it just comes down to who has spent the time to tweak it to that last 5-10%.

Local support is ALWAYS the biggest thing in my opinion, for if something goes wrong, you need to be able to access local assistance. I won't tune more than a decent drive away, just gets too hard to provide good service.

Stuart at BMR is an excellent Viezu dealer in Sydney whom I have zero hesitation in recommending, but ultimately it's always up to you who you choose, and I totally get that.

[noone]

I used to rate the KU31's, but they get a little hard at about 1/3 of their life and they wear on the edges easily. Still @ 120 a corner, they are good for the first 10,000k's and by then you'll probably want different rims.

I'm loving the 595 RSR's, but I wouldn't have contemplated them if it weren't for positive reviews from a few Polo buys and great pricing from Perun (has a tyre shop in Sydney Hills district) who was very competitive with pricing and a nice guy.

For me, tyres are about bang for buck, they both tick that box at different prices.

[Greg Roles]

You guys rate the KU31? I recently bought a set to get me through till I finally get mags, and their sidewall is so bloody soft, I get a sort of additional flex drift halfway through corners at quite normal speeds, certainly never felt this before. Straight line, wet, noise, dry, comfort etc they are excellent, and price is incredible, but for a car that corners like a Polo, well, I'd be careful - I want these to wear out asap so I can replace em!! I have them at 40psi currently to try and limit it!

[WaxonWaxoff]

I am the oldest dealer for Viezu nowdays, and I reckon Gav and Custom Code have the Polo's pretty well sewn up. APR is definately strong there too, but hard to beat Gav's prices! It comes down to the car, I know where Viezu is strong, and where it isn't. Same as other tuners, we all hear inside gossip on each other! No doubt Viezu UK, just like Custom Code UK, Superchips / Bluefin UK, DNA UK, Revo USA, APR USA, etc etc etc could tweak a tune to be as good, but at times a particular brand has it sorted, so from a customers perspective, why be the test dummy?

I am not bagging Viezu at all. I am gobsmacked at what they can do with cars across the brands, and what they can do with some of the NA cars alone is staggering, such as world leading gains out of AMG's and M series beemers etc. I am currently OBD port tuning a doctors Megane RS250, one of the first around to be tuned via OBD, much like a few other world firsts I have under my belt now. There are definate strengths, and despite the fact tuning has to be one of the most opinionated, competitive and downright ugly industries at times, nothing gives me greater satisfaction than getting a late night text from someone who I have just tuned that just exudes pure joy and excitment. After all, that's what it is ALL about!

All tuners flog the same thing, it just comes down to who has spent the time to tweak it to that last 5-10%.

Local support is ALWAYS the biggest thing in my opinion, for if something goes wrong, you need to be able to access local assistance. I won't tune more than a decent drive away, just gets too hard to provide good service.

Stuart at BMR is an excellent Viezu dealer in Sydney whom I have zero hesitation in recommending, but ultimately it's always up to you who you choose, and I totally get that.

Thanks Greg, I would love a tune with Custom Code, it is by far the most cost effective and recommended tune on here! However from my understanding he operates Interstate? And like you said local support is key. I would rather not be a test subject, so possibly GIAC at $995 or APR at $1062 is a better option. the reason why i stayed away from them is they offered not stage 2 tune for the downpipe, but maybe i should consider rejecting that idea all together and get the k04 turbo.

[rgvlee]

Local support is ALWAYS the biggest thing in my opinion

This is right up there for me.

[noone]

All good options.

Lots to read.

[flashpixx]

This is right up there for me.

As Lee says... choice and therefore price point is limited here in WA.

Lets see... there is APR, and... one APR supplier :(

[waxgti]

Wow, i didnt mean to offend people, if it was about an APR, GIAC or Revo tune id understand why people are ragging, but there is really very little info on the viezu for our cars. Even the dealer said he never gets them in. he also said "we don't have much local data on them so I'd like to offer it to you for $799 with a free dyno, and at BMR." which is a great price with everything considered.

i might go with them just for a bit of fun, its going to be my project car after all.

By the way what's a BMR? :emo_baghead: (dont worry, its the workshop)


Ill be watching this thread with great interest.
Ive also been tossing up tunes and viezu tune came up. The greatest part in my opinion is the free retunes. As i am slowly modifying my polo this looks like a viable option for me as the cost of retuning with other companies adds up.. not building any sort of monster polo but unlimited retunes when adding anything to the lil guy seems tempting.. however in saying that, the initial viezu tune seems not as aggressive as what the other companies are offering.

Love to see what you end up doing. Im also in sydney maybe there can be some sort of group discount?

[WaxonWaxoff]

Ill be watching this thread with great interest.
Ive also been tossing up tunes and viezu tune came up. The greatest part in my opinion is the free retunes. As i am slowly modifying my polo this looks like a viable option for me as the cost of retuning with other companies adds up.. not building any sort of monster polo but unlimited retunes when adding anything to the lil guy seems tempting.. however in saying that, the initial viezu tune seems not as aggressive as what the other companies are offering.

Love to see what you end up doing. Im also in sydney maybe there can be some sort of group discount?

I think the thread is dead, especially after a dealer for the tune said, more or less, not to get the tune, stick with APR, REVO , GIAC or CC as its best no to be experimented on....

[noone]

looks like a viable option for me as the cost of retuning with other companies adds up.. not building any sort of monster polo but unlimited retunes when adding anything to the lil guy seems tempting..

you'd want to clarify, but I believe they will tweak a V1 map to your tastes, not retune it every time you add a bigger this or more efficient that.

Really, there isn't that much to tuning, you don't need to change the tune if you add a phenolic spacer or change your spark plugs. The main tune options are stock, with a exhaust / IC, bigger turbo. As discussed, many don't offer all of these or some want you to pick their package with the turbo upgrades (as its not really custom, but existing files that can be tweaked).

I've seen a few buy injectors, then change the turbo / coder and end up selling them to get what the tuner suggests.

[nightphotographer]

I think(?) I'm the only Aus 9N3 Polo owner on watercooled with a Viezu tune - I'm not really one for performance at all to be honest as many people know, but a stock Polo is slow as sh*t so you need to get a tune at some point. The first thing I really liked about the Viezu tune and it's probably the same for other brands is the insane increase in fuel economy, but that only lasted about 6 weeks and now it's worse than it was before I had it tuned. As for performance, I can very very rarely light up the tyres in 2nd in a straight line with ESP off. I got it this morning for maybe the second time, probably because it was freezing cold and I've reduced the load with smaller brakes/lighter wheels. So when everyone goes on about fighting for traction - yeah not in my car ;) I can't exactly speak well of their customer service either, but I better not open my mouth on that one or I'll get banned or something.

To summarise - would I go with Viezu in the future - probably not. But that's only because Gav exists and the next tune I'll be getting will be for my 1.8T MK1 Cabby.

[VWindahouse]

Just to clarify and it seems Greg is correct in saying - not to be the Guinea Pig, in that most tunes will give significant "savings" in fuel consumption. Even Stage 2 tunes as seen with Gavin and my cars.

[WaxonWaxoff]

I think(?) I'm the only Aus 9N3 Polo owner on watercooled with a Viezu tune - I'm not really one for performance at all to be honest as many people know, but a stock Polo is slow as sh*t so you need to get a tune at some point. The first thing I really liked about the Viezu tune and it's probably the same for other brands is the insane increase in fuel economy, but that only lasted about 6 weeks and now it's worse than it was before I had it tuned. As for performance, I can very very rarely light up the tyres in 2nd in a straight line with ESP off. I got it this morning for maybe the second time, probably because it was freezing cold and I've reduced the load with smaller brakes/lighter wheels. So when everyone goes on about fighting for traction - yeah not in my car ;) I can't exactly speak well of their customer service either, but I better not open my mouth on that one or I'll get banned or something.

To summarise - would I go with Viezu in the future - probably not. But that's only because Gav exists and the next tune I'll be getting will be for my 1.8T MK1 Cabby.

If Gavin didnt exist, who would you go with? viezu or one of the others?

[nightphotographer]

Well that's tough because I'd need custom work doing - to get a MK4 GTI/Polo GTI ECU working with a Passat 1.8T engine in a MK1 Golf - it's not exactly off the shelf, and I don't know any other people as reputable as Gavin to do it. If I had to go off the shelf I'd consider GIAC - mainly based of Bflat's experience with their tune on his Polo GTI.

[WaxonWaxoff]

Just to clarify and it seems Greg is correct in saying - not to be the Guinea Pig, in that most tunes will give significant "savings" in fuel consumption. Even Stage 2 tunes as seen with Gavin and my cars.

With APR my fuel shot way up! 40% more (even driving nicely) but when i did go hard it went like a stabbed rat :D i swear the stock mode is slower than it ever was but i think i blew the DV.

[seangti]

With APR my fuel shot way up! 40% more (even driving nicely) but when i did go hard it went like a stabbed rat :D i swear the stock mode is slower than it ever was but i think i blew the DV.

Same with me. It's not greatly worse if gentle, but not any better. Highway cruising to bribie island turn off on the weekend I was low 7's. By the time I got to my parents at bribie, it was 9's. I just think that if I had an Audi A4 with the 1.8T engine those figures would be considered good/reasonable, it's just that these cars are small there's a presumption that'd be frugal.

Though the figures Ant and Gavin get are great. All the more reason to add a dump pipe :-)

[flashpixx]

interesting to note the variances in fuel economy pre/post tuning. I was under the (false?) impression that a fuel economy improvement was a given, seems not.

I have an APR Stage 1 tune in mind, perhaps I should get the 6 hour test and burn a tank of petrol to test. ATM I get 8.5 city running with A/C on.

[rgvlee]

If you do Gordon do as others have said and get Quattro to save your existing tune for you so you can put it back on if you need to, as opposed to the 'APR' stock tune.

[WaxonWaxoff]

If you do Gordon do as others have said and get Quattro to save your existing tune for you so you can put it back on if you need to, as opposed to the 'APR' stock tune.

APR is a good tune for the first 2 hours, it felt like driving my uncles WRX, 1st and 2nd went so fast. then i assumed it ended, performance was okay, like it used to be, but then the tune actually ended and my car..haha, struggles, i cant even get the wheel to spin in first.... something i couldnt help before my APR tune. So rather

A) i got used to the tune, then realised how slow my car was with "APR's" stock tune.

B) APR is actually great, blew my DV, then had a broken car with a blown DV and stock APR tune.

As im replacing the DV to a forge 008 next week, im hoping its B.

[WaxonWaxoff]

interesting to note the variances in fuel economy pre/post tuning. I was under the (false?) impression that a fuel economy improvement was a given, seems not.

I have an APR Stage 1 tune in mind, perhaps I should get the 6 hour test and burn a tank of petrol to test. ATM I get 8.5 city running with A/C on.

You drive with the A/C... my A/C makes my car whines like a dying cat and power low down is just sad. i almost stall sometime up hills if i have it on because im so used to the car with it off :(

[h100vw]

APR is a good tune for the first 2 hours, it felt like driving my uncles WRX, 1st and 2nd went so fast. then i assumed it ended, performance was okay, like it used to be, but then the tune actually ended and my car..haha, struggles, i cant even get the wheel to spin in first.... something i couldnt help before my APR tune. So rather

A) i got used to the tune, then realised how slow my car was with "APR's" stock tune.

B) APR is actually great, blew my DV, then had a broken car with a blown DV and stock APR tune.

As im replacing the DV to a forge 008 next week, im hoping its B.

Take the DV off and test it. Just google the method.

Gavin

[WaxonWaxoff]

Take the DV off and test it. Just google the method.

Gavin

I have a rule, never fiddle with my car, i ALWAYS do more damage than good :( just not my gift. in fifth when i let go of the throttle at at low revs there's like a "boom boom boom" burble sound which i only noticed recently. But its not a flutter as such.

[jboogie]

I have a rule, never fiddle with my car, i ALWAYS do more damage than good :( just not my gift. in fifth when i let go of the throttle at at low revs there's like a "boom boom boom" burble sound which i only noticed recently. But its not a flutter as such.

maybe stick to horse and cart?

[seangti]

maybe stick to horse and cart?
Might forget to feed the horse, get a push bike :-)

8.5l is what I usually get over a tank of suburban driving without AC, add that and it's into 9s. And I drive gently around suburbs. Anyway, didn't by it for fuel economy.

[jboogie]

Might forget to feed the horse, get a push bike :-)

8.5l is what I usually get over a tank of suburban driving without AC, add that and it's into 9s. And I drive gently around suburbs. Anyway, didn't by it for fuel economy.

last time my car was working well, i was down into the 6's running around town late one night.. all suburban driving etc

[99_FGT]

Might forget to feed the horse, get a push bike :-)

Remind me when you last maintained your pushie...

[WaxonWaxoff]

maybe stick to horse and cart?

OI! haha, im good at my job (ish), so i can pay my mechanic who is good at his.

(funny thing is i studied mechanical engineering for 3 years before changing, good choice)