Mk7 Golf GTD gets 135kW

[XTC838]

I actually prefer the look of the GTD to the GTI, for some reason, although still not a fan of the painted lower grille.

2013 Volkswagen Golf Mk7 GTD uncovered (http://www.forcegt.com/news/2013-volkswagen-golf-mk7-gtd-uncovered/)

[kaktusdigital]

very nice. I'd be all over it if it had a bit more power.
re: the grill - a dark grey/black makes it look better I think.

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/524/2013vwgolfmk7gtdblack.jpg

[Dutch77]

The dark color hides the strakes on the front.

That picture actually looks quite good - and once again I think the GTD might have scored a better looking 'stock' wheel than the GTI.

[kaktusdigital]

I think the GTD has always looked better than the GTI especially in terms of compatibility with colours. The traditional red stripe looks 'ok' on some colours, but the real understated chrome strip of the GTD works well everywhere. Granted some may consider this boring. One thing though, I would have hoped the rear valance would be a bit different and not the same as a regular mk7.

Here's hoping they have a dark greyish GTI on offer (like the mk6) and an easy way to turn that red line into a chrome one.

[JimmyT]

Awswome Car :). I would pick the GTD over the GTI.

[Lemonskin]

The dark color hides the strakes on the front.

That picture actually looks quite good - and once again I think the GTD might have scored a better looking 'stock' wheel than the GTI.

Definitely. Both old and new GTD's wheels look better than the GTI's IMO.

[Ryan_R]

Looks nice, hopefully there's an option for no tartan cloth seats.

[THE_EGG]

Looks nice, hopefully there's an option for no tartan cloth seats.

Probably leather seats or something would be my guess.

I thought VW may have given the GTD something like 145kw. I remember seeing the 123D - although I know is probably way more expensive than the mk7 GTD - but it had like 150kw or somthing like that anyway and 7 sec 0-100km/h.

[Ryan_R]

Obviously leather, but I was referring to a standard cloth trim. Tartan doesn't appeal to everyone and it's more of a GTI only thing, not GTD.

[Dutch77]

I didn't think the tartan minus red add grey/silver looked to bad in the GTD, particularly given the sportier nature of the seats. To me that's part of the reason of picking up the GTD over just a TDI model.

[alebonau]

Definitely a good looker there. But suits the dark colour, not sure how would look on lighter colours

[GTD Dubber]

Does this mean a mkVI 125 GTD can be tuned to 135? Or is it a diff engine etc?

[readerr0r]

Does this mean a mkVI 125 GTD can be tuned to 135? Or is it a diff engine etc?

It's definitely a different engine, but that doesn't mean you can't tune the MK6 GTD. Most tunes seem to go to 150kW.

[GTD Dubber]

Great, thanks, Readerr0r.

[Dutch77]

A tuned GTD would be a great sleeper, if the stock GTD isn't already. I enjoyed the test drive I had in one.. sounded great and the economy even on a spirited blast in the hills was crazy good.

[jessv3]

I actually prefer the look of the GTD to the GTI,


Me too, I really dislike the red insert on the Mk7 Gti, unless the car is red I think it just looks cheesy.

I will be watching the mk7 GTD closely, as it could possibly be a replacement for my mk5 GTI, I reckon with a tune the Mk7 would be capable of 160kw which should bring it down to the high 6's in terms of 0-100.

The Mk6 GTD is nice but I hated the stock mk6 GTD rims (easily replaceable though), it looks like the rims on the mk7 are much improved, however if I had to find one complaint is that the GTD misses out on dual tail pipes again, it has twin pipes but not dual i.e:

GTD:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/02/mk72013vwgolfgtdpassengersiderear-2.jpg

GTI:

http://www.devehiclesprofile.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Volkswagen-Golf-GTI-MK7-Design-Concept-3.png

[Arnold]

very nice. I'd be all over it if it had a bit more power.


The GTD has so much torque that the power deficit compared with the GTI is not an issue - once it's rolling.

However, to address the GTD's off-the-line performance (a weak spot that will not be resolved by more power) the GTD really needs a twin-turbo for more linear, GTI-like power delivery from idle to around 1750 rpm when, relatively speaking, all hell breaks loose in the single turbo.

BMW has a twin turbo diesel in the 150kw 123d and even VW has one in its stable (in the 130kw Amarok).

Time they put a twin-turbo in the GTD I reckon.

[DoggiesUtd]

The GTD has so much torque that the power deficit compared with the GTI is not an issue - once it's rolling.

However, to address the GTD's off-the-line performance (a weak spot that will not be resolved by more power) the GTD really needs a twin-turbo for more linear, GTI-like power delivery from idle to around 1750 rpm when, relatively speaking, all hell breaks loose in the single turbo.

BMW has a twin turbo diesel in the 150kw 123d and even VW has one in its stable (in the 130kw Amarok).

Time they put a twin-turbo in the GTD I reckon.

i think it would be mad if they put a twin turbo diesel in the jetta too!
will there definately be an mk7 jetta released in australia...does any1 know?

[Dutch77]

I assume one day yes, but the mk6 Jetta is barely two years old - it doesn't share the same model cycle as the Golf.

Having said that, no doubt engine updates/upgrades could be added during the mk6 cycle.

Speaking of diesels, I reckon BMW's tri-turbo diesel is the maddest of the bunch.

[Tornado_ALIVE]

The Amarok as a nice 2 liter bi-turbo engine in it. 136kw and 420nm

[jessv3]

The Amarok as a nice 2 liter bi-turbo engine in it. 136kw and 420nm

I would love to see a twin turbo diesel in a golf as well but im guessing VW are holding back because there is no fwd dsg capable of that much torque, the dsg in the more powerful Audi's are all longitude. I'm hoping this changes in the future...

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[stickshift3000]

I would love to see a twin turbo diesel in a golf as well but im guessing VW are holding back because there is no fwd dsg capable of that much torque

The golf dsg can handle that if tuned properly - tuned GTD's will exceed that torque figure: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f20/125tdi-tuning-82721.html

[jessv3]

The golf dsg can handle that if tuned properly - tuned GTD's will exceed that torque figure: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f20/125tdi-tuning-82721.html

There is a difference between what a gearbox can handle and to what the manufacturer is prepared to support, car makers tend to over engineer most things to protect themselves from warranty claims.

As it is VW do not offer any longitude dsg gearboxes with more then 380nm, even the larger v6 engine Passat only has 350nm.

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[REGS12]

Obviously leather, but I was referring to a standard cloth trim. Tartan doesn't appeal to everyone and it's more of a GTI only thing, not GTD.

Red GTD with nice leather [not Mercedes man made] would be my choice. But when will we see 'em here?