MY17/MQB Platform Tiguan Discussion Thread [Archive]

tigger73

21-12-2012, 05:53 AM

First I have to be clear and say I have no inside knowledge.

However given that the facelift has only been out for a year (in Aus at least), I'm giving it a good year or 2 before something new arrives - 2014-2015.

They will probably have a "refresh" sometime this year (mid-model) and then do some "run-out" deals towards the end.

That's just the formula I see being used in the car industry as a general rule - no knowledge specifically where development about the new, bigger, improved Tiguan.

I actually suspect VW will bring out a car slightly smaller than current Tig and then release the "new" Tig to fit right between the little Taigun concept and the Toureg.

That's just what I see happening from an outsider perspective.

phaeton

22-12-2012, 06:35 AM

tigger73

22-12-2012, 09:45 AM

There's a short article here: Volkswagen Tiguan: 2015 preview | CarAdvice (http://www.caradvice.com.au/166104/volkswagen-tiguan-2015-preview/)

And some nice shots over here: Next Gen VW Tiguan: Renders, Spy Pics, Speculation | German Car Forum (http://www.germancarforum.com/community/threads/next-gen-vw-tiguan-renders-spy-pics-speculation.44004/)

tigger73

05-04-2014, 07:48 AM

Just thought I'd dig up this thread and start some discussion about the 2015 Tiguan as it's getting a little closer. One thing is definite that it will be based on the new MQB platform and share some of the same motors. AWD models will have the same Gen5 Haldex as the Mk7 Golf R. Only clues regarding exterior styling is from some recent concept cars.

This may or may not be how the new 2015 Tig looks like:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/vwtiguan2015front-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/vwtiguan2015detail-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/vwtiguan2015rear-1.jpg

Cross Coupe Concept Car:

http://www.2015bestcarsreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2015-VW-Tiguan-side.jpg

http://www.2015bestcarsreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2015-VW-Tiguan-rear.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/VWTiguanXLfotoshowImage7e2ac173579933-1.jpg

Cross Blue Concept Car:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/2015VWTiguanRedesign-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/2015VWTiguanSideView-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/2015VWTiguanRearView-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/2015VWTiguanInteriorView-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/2015VWTiguanDashboard-1.jpg

Dutch77

05-04-2014, 08:12 AM

Quite liking the solid looks of the top one.. and there seems to be some modern Porsche elements in the interior concept (no bad thing).

Could be after one of these around 2018-19. :)

andrew7

05-04-2014, 11:50 AM

Any idea when its due to be previewed at a Geneva etc motor show?

team_v

05-04-2014, 12:04 PM

Any idea when its due to be previewed at a Geneva etc motor show?

I haven't seen anything/concepts mentioned at all so i would hazard a guess at 2016 for release later that year.
This is purely based on the fact the Mk 1 was released in 2008 and the facelift in 2012 so another 4 years would bring us to the model update in theory.

tigger73

05-04-2014, 12:21 PM

I haven't seen anything/concepts mentioned at all so i would hazard a guess at 2016 for release later that year.
This is purely based on the fact the Mk 1 was released in 2008 and the facelift in 2012 so another 4 years would bring us to the model update in theory.

+1 this. There have been some spy shots with Tiguan Mk II mechanicals with a Touran body stuck on it floating around so definitely under development though slated for 2015 in Europe which will probably mean 2016 here in Aus.

I am hoping that with the growth in the small/medium SUV market that they'll give it some real attention and make it the must have smaller SUV like it was when it was launched back in 2008.

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Dutch77

05-04-2014, 12:56 PM

+1 this. There have been some spy shots with Tiguan Mk II mechanicals with a Touran body stuck on it floating around so definitely under development though slated for 2015 in Europe which will probably mean 2016 here in Aus.

I am hoping that with the growth in the small/medium SUV market that they'll give it some real attention and make it the must have smaller SUV like it was when it was launched back in 2008.

I'd read 2015 somewhere as well, based on the above sounds about right.

Based on the number of smaller SUVs coming out of Europe these days I am guessing their market is travelling like ours. It is still definitely the must have if you're an enthusiast and wish to do any number of things to it as per this forum, but in other areas it no longer is and as you know that pushed me in a different direction when I required one seven months ago (as I had zero intention of modding it - I know when I was testing the Tig I was already thinking about what I might do lol).

tigger73

05-04-2014, 04:45 PM

Here's the 2015 Tiguan "mule".

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/volkswagentiguan_800x0w-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/volkswagentiguan6_800x0w-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/volkswagentiguan2_800x0w-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/volkswagentiguan3_800x0w-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/volkswagentiguan4_800x0w-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/volkswagentiguan5_800x0w-1.jpg

Ramee

05-04-2014, 05:16 PM

:( what a POS! Looks ugly!

team_v

05-04-2014, 05:39 PM

:( what a POS! Looks ugly!

Just for reference that is the Touran (people mover) not the Tiguan body.

tigger73

05-04-2014, 08:30 PM

2015 Volkswagen Tiguan - 2014 Car Reviews (http://www.2014carreviews.com/2015-volkswagen-tiguan/)
Just for reference that is the Touran (people mover) not the Tiguan body.

Yes it's a Touran body with the next gen Tig running gear.

Details of the article here: 2015 Volkswagen Tiguan | car review @ Top Speed (http://www.topspeed.com/cars/volkswagen/2015-volkswagen-tiguan-ar162473.html)

A couple of other articles:

Chunky look for new VW Tiguan 2015 pictures | Auto Express (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/tiguan/66799/chunky-look-new-vw-tiguan-2015-pictures)

New 2015 VW Tiguan Redesign | Blendcars.com (http://blendcars.com/new-2015-vw-tiguan-redesign)

tigger73

27-05-2014, 09:43 PM

team_v

27-05-2014, 10:07 PM

Well discussions with my local dealer today is that there will be another refresh of the Tig for MY15 due around September this year. There's no MQB Tig on the horizon.... possibly due in 2 years / 2016 :(

Makes sense.
The Gen 1's were late 2008 to 2012, so i would guess at a Franfurt Motorshow announcement/reveal in 2015 with AUDM release in June/September 2016.
Keeps in sync with the 4 year facelift cycle.

iamthestig

29-05-2014, 12:44 AM

Well discussions with my local dealer today is that there will be another refresh of the Tig for MY15 due around September this year. There's no MQB Tig on the horizon.... possibly due in 2 years / 2016 :(

I am not a believer. Two facelifts is pretty much unheard of in the german car industry. The structure will otherwise be on sale from 2007 until 2017 or so ? - I can't see it for such a volume car. I am onside with some of the press who are saying display of a "proper" new car later this year, with on sale next year. Saying this, it does seem strange that there is a lack of "scoop" photos of prototypes...

We will have to come back to this thread later and see though I guess...

tigger73

29-05-2014, 06:02 AM

I am not a believer. Two facelifts is pretty much unheard of in the german car industry. The structure will otherwise be on sale from 2007 until 2017 or so ? - I can't see it for such a volume car. I am onside with some of the press who are saying display of a "proper" new car later this year, with on sale next year. Saying this, it does seem strange that there is a lack of "scoop" photos of prototypes...

We will have to come back to this thread later and see though I guess...

Agree that 6 year model cycles are the "norm" and that would put the Tig up for renewal around now.

However I think what you'll find is that the Golf development was pushed through early on the MQB platform giving only 4 years in Mk6.

I seriously think that the Tig may get another midlife "facelift" before it gets brought onto the MQB platform. Golf is such a big seller that this development has been fast-tracked instead. Which has delayed the Tig...

VW couldn't afford to have an "old" Golf. They may bring some of the new engines into the MY15 Tig but I suspect the major mechanicals/body/size etc will be the same.

I'd love to be proven wrong but I suspect this is what is happening given the lack of any details/pre production spy shots/ car show releases.

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iamthestig

29-05-2014, 10:58 AM

Agree that 6 year model cycles are the "norm" and that would put the Tig up for renewal around now.

However I think what you'll find is that the Golf development was pushed through early on the MQB platform giving only 4 years in Mk6.

I seriously think that the Tig may get another midlife "facelift" before it gets brought onto the MQB platform. Golf is such a big seller that this development has been fast-tracked instead. Which has delayed the Tig...

VW couldn't afford to have an "old" Golf. They may bring some of the new engines into the MY15 Tig but I suspect the major mechanicals/body/size etc will be the same.

I'd love to be proven wrong but I suspect this is what is happening given the lack of any details/pre production spy shots/ car show releases.

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I am really hoping for some news one way or the other as I was planning to change cars in another 6 months or so...

One thing I won't be doing is trading in a car that is almost the same as the one I have - I want the MQB tech like active cruise ! Of course I was hoping that the 8" SatNav system will be available but you can't even get that in a Golf R at present, even though you can option it in a $25k Skoda Octavia. Sigh...

team_v

29-05-2014, 11:17 AM

tigger73

29-05-2014, 11:31 AM

I am really hoping for some news one way or the other as I was planning to change cars in another 6 months or so...

One thing I won't be doing is trading in a car that is almost the same as the one I have - I want the MQB tech like active cruise ! Of course I was hoping that the 8" SatNav system will be available but you can't even get that in a Golf R at present, even though you can option it in a $25k Skoda Octavia. Sigh...

Yes likewise I'm looking at changing in the not too distant future and don't see the current Tig as a real option. Fundamentally it's the same car.

I'd only consider MQB platform so I've been searching around for any news/spy shots to see when it may be released.

There's not really anything that ticks the boxes for me at the moment. Has to be AWD, nice interior and decent performance. Plus under $50k!!!

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iamthestig

29-05-2014, 01:18 PM

The Tiguan facelift was released in February 2011, over 3 years ago - so the hope is there for something in the next 6 months...

Sketches and some info is dribbling out on the new Passat which should be shown in some way soon too - but I guess that is even longer on sale than the Tiguan (initially shown March 2005, face lifted September 2009). I just can't see a face lifted Tiguan - it will be new when it does come out IMHO. Unless VW is mad of course !

tigger73

29-05-2014, 01:38 PM

I think it depends on how long they want to keep this model going. If it's another couple of years then they may want a face-lift just so there's some differences from an exterior point of view. If the new model is around the corner they'll probably just do enough to keep the sales going until the new model arrives.

I guess we'll have to wait for Aug/Sept to see what MY15 has to offer.

tigger73

30-05-2014, 08:47 PM

This one looks interesting - it's the Skoda SUV due for release in 2016 based on the MQB platform.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/05/skodasuv_729620x349-1.jpg

jets

30-05-2014, 09:34 PM

Well discussions with my local dealer today is that there will be another refresh of the Tig for MY15 due around September this year. There's no MQB Tig on the horizon.... possibly due in 2 years / 2016 :(

I spoke to the same dealer today who is saying that the next model will be mid. next year & on the MQB platform. He didn't inspire any confidence in me with some of the answers he was giving me, so I wouldn't take that info as gospel.

iamthestig

04-06-2014, 11:47 PM

Well, seems that it won't be a facelift and should indeed be MQB...

VW could triple current SUV lineup, key CUV may be delayed - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2014/06/03/vw-could-triple-current-suv-lineup-key-cuv-may-be-delayed/)

tigger73

07-06-2014, 07:53 AM

nat225

07-06-2014, 12:10 PM

Some more photos of the next gen Tig - these ones from autobild.de... perhaps closer to it

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/06/VWTiguanIllustration729x486872db372a4b81-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/06/VWTiguanIllustration729x4860f2b274f44aa9-1.jpg

Seeing how the other models design / curves / shapes look like, ie Passat, i think the all new Tiguan photos look realistically possible.

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tigger73

06-07-2014, 10:28 PM

Well there's run-out deals going on for MY14 Tiguan and they're clearing out stock for the new MY15 Tigs. Unfortunately there's no major changes in terms of platform/shape (this would be a very well-kept secret if there was).

I noticed an interesting vehicle listed on the RVCS register though......

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/14399857990_3221ec71b2_c-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/07/14563458716_ab2edae486_c-1.jpg

Now this would be interesting a 130TDI R-line :)

Fingers crossed they bring it in.

Ramee

07-07-2014, 05:20 AM

Well there's run-out deals going on for MY14 Tiguan and they're clearing out stock for the new MY15 Tigs. Unfortunately there's no major changes in terms of platform/shape (this would be a very well-kept secret if there was).

I noticed an interesting vehicle listed on the RVCS register though......

Now this would be interesting a 130TDI R-line :)

Fingers crossed they bring it in.

Unfortunately that is a Diesel,one already offering in UK etc but not enough power :P And I bet if it reached here pricing will be starting with high 40K or low 50k :( In that case AUDI Q3 is a more sensible choice.

tigger73

07-07-2014, 07:16 AM

Unfortunately that is a Diesel,one already offering in UK etc but not enough power :P And I bet if it reached here pricing will be starting with high 40K or low 50k :( In that case AUDI Q3 is a more sensible choice.

Yes it depends how much they load it up with options as to what pricing ends up for the 130TDI R-line. My guess is that it will be a bit more than the 155TSI but we'll just have to wait and see. These can still be tuned but with a diesel you're chasing torque not power :P

Also even though VW has done the paperwork is not a guarantee that we'll see it on the showroom floor. However it does at least mean it's a possibility.

The other option is to buy a run-out 132TSI and put the R-line kit on it. I'm not sure why there's no 132 on the list - perhaps they are dropping this as they figure they already have 2 petrol models in the range. There really wasn't a huge difference between the 132 Pacific and 155TSI in terms a features and price anyway.

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tigger73

22-07-2014, 06:52 PM

Well some more information from one of my other local dealers today....

MY15 will definitely have a 130TDI - sales guy reckons that this will replace the 103TDI (only one diesel model).

He also confirmed that there will be an R-Line - his guess is this will be offered as an option on the 155 only.

Also the MY15 Tiguan will get the head unit and steering wheel from the Mk7 Golf.

Though bad news is that the Polo is also due for a MY15 update and it will be coming out first.... so we'll have to wait a little bit longer.

team_v

22-07-2014, 07:04 PM

tigger73

22-07-2014, 07:18 PM

The 130TDI is a cracker of an engine from what i have heard.
Tuned up to around 150 with tonnes of torque.

Will be interested to see how the headunit upgrade goes as the GTI/R owners only get the small one and hate it.

Yes the 130TDI is very popular in the Passat and the same engine as in Mk6 GTD I think. Agree this would be an interesting car to drive when tuned up to 167kW / 487Nm :Chiptuning - VW Tiguan 2.0 TDI (CR), 1968ccm, 130kW (177PS) (http://www.cpa-chiptuning.de/en/chiptuning-VW-Tiguan-2-0-TDI-CR/motortuning_2219.htm)

I queried the sales guy about the head unit and he said it would be standard in the next gen Tig so base models this would be an improvement, however questionable if this is better than RNS/RCD510 as size is smaller but resolution better and faster response.

andrew7

22-07-2014, 09:56 PM

Tigger, any idea when the Polo update is due (specifically the GTI)?

tigger73

22-07-2014, 10:06 PM

Tigger, any idea when the Polo update is due (specifically the GTI)?

I didn't ask much about the Polo - just that the sales guy said they had dates booked in for the Polo training and nothing yet for Tiguan. So suggested that it would be around October for the Polo release and that he had a couple of Tiguan orders for MY15 (due to options no longer being available) and he said these would be delivered in November.

If I find out anything else about the Polo (and GTI), I'll post it over in the Polo forum :)

andrew7

22-07-2014, 10:35 PM

Cheers :)

tigger73

29-07-2014, 01:46 PM

A little more info on MY15... apparently the R-line kit will be an option on the 132TSI and 130TDI (standard on the 155). 118TSI will still be entry level, however this will now come with RCD510 and RVC as standard.

A lot of the standard equipment from the MY14 155 is being brought into the 132/130 models like all the chrome blingy bits (whether you like the looks or not), sports seats and the alloys will be changing too (not a moment too soon!).

So 155 (and optioned up 132/130) will look something like this:

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Still waiting on pricing and release date, however I have heard that stock of the MY14 155 are in short supply (depending on the colour/options), so hopefully these will be available for ordering soon.

MGV

29-07-2014, 06:44 PM

Nice detective work, agent t73! About time that kit was made available to us...
Wonder if R line = 19x9 wheelage or if that is still an option? (& available in AU).

tigger73

29-07-2014, 06:52 PM

Nice detective work, agent t73! About time that kit was made available to us...
Wonder if R line = 19x9 wheelage or if that is still an option? (& available in AU).

I believe we'll still get 18x8 as standard on the 155TSI but there may be a 19" option - will just have to wait and see.

Yes I think sometimes VWA keeps model options up their sleeve so they can bring them out later in the cars lifecycle to bolster up sales and keep interest in the model.

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schmenz

29-07-2014, 07:26 PM

^ thats fine with me. perfect timing. i was bouncing off the walls all day after reading it. always wanted a golf r but the size and price was always an issue. now i get to own an "r" anyway

Ramee

29-07-2014, 07:56 PM

^ thats fine with me. perfect timing. i was bouncing off the walls all day after reading it. always wanted a golf r but the size and price was always an issue. now i get to own an "r" anyway

:) R and R Line is completely different ! It is like Audi S vs S line (performance is in two different levels). Now if a Tig going to come out with new Gen3 TSI engine, preferably MK7 R Turbo engine I will be soo0 into it.

schmenz

29-07-2014, 08:44 PM

Ramee

29-07-2014, 10:36 PM

Shhhhh ramee!!! That's why I used " " don't ruin my fun. A fake r is better than no r. Now if it had a power increase. Now that would be crazy town.
But near enough is close enough and saves me 10-15k.
And I would never get past the guilting from the parentals for spending that much on a car! (Particularly my first car I'm buying!)

haha! I didn't want to kill your enthusiasm! Of course R-Line looks very good and sounds much better than saying " I got a 155TSI " ;)

But.. there is always a but .. Will R Line top of the range Tig actually much cheaper than a Golf R? and will its fuel economy and driveability comparable to a real R in stock form .. hmm

tigger73

29-07-2014, 11:52 PM

:) R and R Line is completely different ! It is like Audi S vs S line (performance is in two different levels). Now if a Tig going to come out with new Gen3 TSI engine, preferably MK7 R Turbo engine I will be soo0 into it.

Yes though I'd take an R-line Tig over a two-tone with grey plastics any day of the week.

I don't think you'll see the Gen3 TSI until the Gen3 Tig comes out in a couple of years... so until that time the 155TSI R-line is king of the Tigs (apart from the stage 3 one in Brissy of course).

haha! I didn't want to kill your enthusiasm! Of course R-Line looks very good and sounds much better than saying " I got a 155TSI " ;)

But.. there is always a but .. Will R Line top of the range Tig actually much cheaper than a Golf R? and will its fuel economy and driveability comparable to a real R in stock form .. hmm

Ramee I think you'll find pricing of the MY15 Tigs will be pretty sharp. VW are getting outsold by Mazda CX-5 10:1 so they have to do something pretty major to bring people back to VW showrooms. When the Tig first came out in 2009 it was the No. 1 small/medium SUV, however now it's a 5 year old car with a mid-life update and struggling to match the competition who have all brought out new models since then (Mazda CX-5, Subaru XV, Nissan Qashie, Merc GLA, Jeep Cherokee, Hyundai ix35, etc).

A lot of the newer cars are coming out with more options as standard so VW has to do a fair bit to bring it back into line with what is available on the market. Expect to see a fair bit more as standard equipment on the MY15.

In all seriousness if you want to have Golf R performance out of a SUV you have to go to a Macan or RS3 for a stock car off the showroom floor. I don't think that VW will bring out an R version of the Tiguan (much as we'd like it). I think the market would just be way too small... and if VW ever did make it, VWA would almost certainly not bring it to Australia :(

Anyway beggars can't be choosers and it's better late than never that we get the R-line. If they load the cars up with equipment as standard and put the body kit on them I'm sure they will sell.

I'm in 2 minds whether to go an R-line MY15 or hang out to Gen3 with the new engines (not sure I can wait that long). We'll just have to wait and see ;)

Ramee

30-07-2014, 06:02 AM

I don't think you'll see the Gen3 TSI until the Gen3 Tig comes out in a couple of years... so until that time the 155TSI R-line is king of the Tigs (apart from the stage 3 one in Brissy of course).

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You are forgetting (or may be ignoring :P) there is another 270 kW R Tig Prince living in Melbourne much closer to that throne than a 155 TSI R Line ever hope to be... Haha ;)

Ramee I think you'll find pricing of the MY15 Tigs will be pretty sharp. VW are getting outsold by Mazda CX-5 10:1 so they have to do something pretty major to bring people back to VW showrooms. When the Tig first came out in 2009 it was the No. 1 small/medium SUV, however now it's a 5 year old car with a mid-life update and struggling to match the competition who have all brought out new models since then (Mazda CX-5, Subaru XV, Nissan Qashie, Merc GLA, Jeep Cherokee, Hyundai ix35, etc).

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VW will not normally compete with Mazda or Hyundai or Nissan in price vise, it will outperform them in build quality, driveability , performance , technology etc but try to stay in middle ground between Euro Lux vs rest. If you want Mix of best performance, Looks, reliability , advance tech for a reasonable value there is pretty much no match for a Tig still, otherwise you would not have hard time finding a replacement for your two tone cheap plastic Tiguan! :D

The reason I proposed to get a Golf R instead of Tig was that if the person is a performance mind individual like me he will find new Golf R will deliver more driving enjoyment and performance than current model Tigs even with some level of modifications. So if getting a R Line Tig and thinking it will be similer to a true R is not going to be a good assumption even with modifications. And when consider pricing for R Line with mods vs R, I doubt there is much difference. Of course we will have to wait and see how pricing will turn up :)

schmenz

30-07-2014, 07:28 AM

She :D

I know it won't drive like an r line golf. It's just cosmetic. But there's about 20K between the two.
I prefer the golf because it's lower to put bikes on the roof but for $5 I can buy a step from bunnings.

(Yup. Gonna ruin it's sexiness with roof racks and destroy it's fuel economy)

I wouldn't mind getting a tune done but only if that means I don't have to physically change any parts and it's just electronic.

I'm too girly to get under the car (or in the bonnet). The most I do is change my on head light globes and I'm pretty happy with that!

I'd have attempted the flappy paddles. Or paid someone. But it comes with flappy paddles!

But I will buy one of those vcd doover cables to get dippy mirrors and stuff

tigger73

30-07-2014, 07:52 AM

You are forgetting (or may be ignoring :P) there is another 270 kW R Tig Prince living in Melbourne much closer to that throne than a 155 TSI R Line ever hope to be... Haha ;)

No I haven't forgotten. I'm just waiting to read next months Hot Tuner mag to find out who is king.... :)

VW will not normally compete with Mazda or Hyundai or Nissan in price vise, it will outperform them in build quality, driveability , performance , technology etc but try to stay in middle ground between Euro Lux vs rest. If you want Mix of best performance, Looks, reliability , advance tech for a reasonable value there is pretty much no match for a Tig still, otherwise you would not have hard time finding a replacement for your two tone cheap plastic Tiguan! :D

The reason I proposed to get a Golf R instead of Tig was that if the person is a performance mind individual like me he will find new Golf R will deliver more driving enjoyment and performance than current model Tigs even with some level of modifications. So if getting a R Line Tig and thinking it will be similer to a true R is not going to be a good assumption even with modifications. And when consider pricing for R Line with mods vs R, I doubt there is much difference. Of course we will have to wait and see how pricing will turn up :)

Yes I know VW is never going to compete directly on price but it has to compete on value. Right now it is more expensive and has less standard features than a lot of its competitors as well as running on an older platform with slightly less fuel efficient engines. So if it's just about doing the school run and being used as an oversized shopping trolley there's quite a few other cars out there that are ticking more boxes at the moment than the Tig.

I agree though there isn't any other package out there that gives you the same level of bang for your buck - especially if you're up for putting a tune on the car. A 206kW R Tig would be an interesting concept but I can't see this one getting built - I think we're much more likely to see a Golf R wagon (though whether this gets brought to Aus is an entirely different question).

I think that people like shmenz who are looking to buy a Tig now will be able to get a fully loaded car for what most of us paid for a base model... plus they can option it up with an R-line kit which I think will make it one of the most desirable small/medium SUVs on the market once again. In terms of performance/packaging/looks/price I think it's going to be hard to come up with a better overall package.

schmenz

30-07-2014, 08:25 AM

tigger73

30-07-2014, 09:10 AM

I did start to think of the cx5 lately (it was originally my number 1 but I discounted it as it didn't come in manual. But alas it turns out. Jack all comes in manual these days! I hate autos but the dsg is as close as I'll be able to get to manual in what I want )

The only problem with the cx5s is they are everywhere. And they're ugly at the front. Looks like a fishes mouth.
There's jack all tigs where I am.

Yes if you get a R-line you'll definitely be in a more exclusive club.

Plus the CX-5 doesn't have the pick-up that the Tiguan has. It's a little lacking in the overtaking stakes so if performance is an important criteria, you're better off with the Tig.

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schmenz

30-07-2014, 08:02 PM

yup! tig it is. ill be putting a deposit down soon! cant wait!

tigger73

30-07-2014, 09:27 PM

yup! tig it is. ill be putting a deposit down soon! cant wait!

:banana:

Let us know when you've placed your order and the model/options you're getting.

tigger73

02-08-2014, 08:11 AM

Just an update on the all-new (MQB) Tiguan which is rumoured to be launched at the Paris motor show in October.

According to the motoring.com.au report "Volkswagen Group Australia managing director John White told motoring.com.au recently that an all-new Tiguan was due on sale globally next year, but it's unlikely to go on sale in Australia until 2016."

The full article is here: Volkswagen to reveal new Tiguan this year - motoring.com.au (http://www.motoring.com.au/news/small-4x4/volkswagen/tiguan/volkswagen-to-reveal-new-tiguan-this-year-43597)

Transporter

02-08-2014, 08:37 AM

That's a good timing for me. Our Tig will be +6years old and I don't like to buy a car in its first or second year of production. But, when the time comes, as always, I will watch the offerings from the other brands as well.

Ramee

02-08-2014, 11:06 AM

Good timing for me too if I consider buying an another Tig. But not a fan of that new look though...

tigger73

02-08-2014, 11:18 AM

Good timing for me too if I consider buying an another Tig. But not a fan of that new look though...

The photo in the article is actually not the new Tiguan - it's the mini SUV based on the Up!

I'm also hanging out for the new Tiguan as I may be able to hold off until then before changing over vehicles.

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Ramee

02-08-2014, 01:12 PM

The photo in the article is actually not the new Tiguan - it's the mini SUV based on the Up!

I'm also hanging out for the new Tiguan as I may be able to hold off until then before changing over vehicles.

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Ok! Yeah I now see only two doors in that mini concept SUV :) Yeah I think it is a good idea to hold off till new MBQ Tiguan model get released if you have finalized the decision buying one. It is not far away according to the news and you don't want to end up with old generation engine and model just after a year when new version is released. Probably any savings buying a run out model will be depreciated with the new model in the market.

tigger73

02-08-2014, 01:19 PM

I still think that if you're looking for a car now the MY15 with R-line is not a bad choice. These are getting loaded up with a lot of standard equipment so you can pretty much get a fully loaded car for base model prices.

But agree that if you can wait then the new engines and slightly larger vehicle is the way to go (for me at least anyway).

And also by that stage (2016) we may have the Skoda mid-size SUV to compare as well....

tigger73

02-08-2014, 06:09 PM

Well the first spy shots of the new MQB Tig have surfaced:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/spyshotsallnew2015volkswagentiguanwillbe-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/spyshotsallnew2015volkswagentiguanwillbe-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/spyshotsallnew2015volkswagentiguanwillbe-3.jpg

This is a test mule with the current model body, however it's on the road and getting driven. More photos and further details here: autoevolution - Spyshots: All-New 2015 Volkswagen Tiguan Will Be Wider (http://www.autoevolution.com/news/spyshots-all-new-2015-volkswagen-tiguan-will-be-wider-82381.html#agal_0)

There's also proof of further testing getting done:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/2016volkswagentiguantestmulespyshots_100-1.jpg

Full details and more photos: MotorAuthority - 2016 Volkswagen Tiguan Spy Shots (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1052013_2016-volkswagen-tiguan-spy-shots)

So looks like development of the new Tiguan is well under way.

Ramee

02-08-2014, 09:03 PM

Ha! They somehow found an old wide wheel arch extension kit for Tig test mule :P Looks like highest power model still going to be in GTI range, 220 hp. But turbo upgrade kits will be more cheaper and common too considering they all going to be TSI Gen 3 engines.

Also will be interesting to see how hybrid turbo electric engines going to look like. Then we can tune both engine and the electric motor to kill some super cars :D

tigger73

03-08-2014, 12:04 AM

Ramee

03-08-2014, 04:56 AM

Yeah well you can't take too much from those photos - other than VW are obviously quite a way into testing the new model.

Almost certainly it's going to have the GTI motor, a diesel (135kW GTD motor??) and quite possibly an entry level FWD variant (assuming VW follow the same formula).

I'm certainly interested in the tunability of the Gen3 EA888 with stage 2 heading up towards 250kW??

Yeah APR advertised 235 kw peak value for GEN 3 165kW GTI engine with stage 1.
11110

So stage 2 probably around 250 kW but will improve the area under the graphs.

Also here is an interesting article about Gen 3 engines compared to Gen 1 and 2, based on it VW has taken lot of measures to reduce friction, control heat generation and improve the low end torque and fuel economy.

Green Car Congress: VW introducing 1.8L EA888 Gen 3 engine in 2014 Jetta, Passat and Beetle; driving impressions (http://www.greencarcongress.com/2013/08/20130829-ea888.html)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/08/6a00d8341c4fbe53ef019aff0e638b970b250wi-1.jpg

But if I ended up with a Gen 3 Tig I will start tuning by upgrading turbo straight away to a golf R one :D

tigger73

03-08-2014, 07:13 AM

...which is exactly why I am looking to hold off until the Gen3 motors become available in the Tig.

I'd agree that if you are thinking of upgrading the turbo you should do this as a first step (saves paying for the tunes/work twice).

Though I'm still of the opinion that having a super car as a daily driver when most of the speed limits are 50/60/80 km/hr is a bit of a waste of time. Sure if you're going to run your car on the track it makes some sense but for a daily road car I'd probably still only go as far as a stage 2.

tigger73

08-08-2014, 07:03 AM

99Reza

08-08-2014, 09:58 AM

schmenz

08-08-2014, 10:31 AM

Yup that's true. In waiting back on them to confirm price and putting my order in.
Only 1 black with sunroof on it's way to qld so I'll have to wait a little longer. I told him white (which he is getting) isn't an option! Hahaha

Ramee

08-08-2014, 02:24 PM

Dropped through one of the local dealers yesterday and rumour is that MY15 models should be available for order sometime next week with cars out in September.... still waiting to have this confirmed but this would line up with dates/times for other MY changes.

Hopefully we get the R line Tigs with this My15 versions, So I can get a R line rear bumper as a spare part. Already tried to get one from overseas but most couriers don't do that big parcels.:facepalm:

tigger73

08-08-2014, 03:19 PM

Hopefully we get the R line Tigs with this My15 versions, So I can get a R line rear bumper as a spare part. Already tried to get one from overseas but most couriers don't do that big parcels.:facepalm:

Ramee you'll definitely see the R-line locally. The body kit will be standard on the 155TSI and ~$2.5k option on the 132TSI/130TDI.

I'm sure you'll be able to order rear bumpers if you've modified the stock one for twin exit exhausts. It won't be cheap option because once you get it, you'll still have to get it sprayed.

Ramee

08-08-2014, 03:53 PM

Ramee you'll definitely see the R-line locally. The body kit will be standard on the 155TSI and ~$2.5k option on the 132TSI/130TDI.

I'm sure you'll be able to order rear bumpers if you've modified the stock one for twin exit exhausts. It won't be cheap option because once you get it, you'll still have to get it sprayed.

Good news! thanks tigger, So if we be able to get that complete body kit separately for 2.5 K I am considering it.
Plan is to modify R Line bumper as it makes twin exhaust looks very pretty. :)

tigger73

08-08-2014, 04:11 PM

Good news! thanks tigger, So if we be able to get that complete body kit separately for 2.5 K I am considering it.
Plan is to modify R Line bumper as it makes twin exhaust looks very pretty. :)

I doubt you'll get much change from $5k for the bits bought through VW spare parts (don't worry I've been down this path already). Then you have to paint and get fitted which will be $8-10k by the time it gets on your car.

That's why the $2.5k option for factory fitment is such a good deal.

Ramee

08-08-2014, 09:52 PM

I doubt you'll get much change from $5k for the bits bought through VW spare parts (don't worry I've been down this path already). Then you have to paint and get fitted which will be $8-10k by the time it gets on your car.

yeah too bad! that is enough money for a GTX or new engine. :)

Polo GTEye N9

17-08-2014, 08:39 PM

I traded in my Tiggy few weeks ago to the new Octavia RS TSI. Yup, it's definitely worth to wait for the new MQB platform vehicle, Tiggy included.

First, the drivetrain, engine is a cracker. Very linear power delivery and muscular, for the 162TSI at least. The DSG is very good, in term of smoothness and programming. None of those bipolar programming we all too familiar with the current DSG in the Tiggy. I rarely use the flappy paddle on the RS, it's that good.

Second, the ride refinement. Not sure how the chassis on the new Tiggy will be set up, on the RS the ride is quite firm and noisy but extremely refined and resolved, very close to a current model C-class. In my opinion this has something to do with the new chassis, i think VAG has significantly strengthen the chassis to provide better ride without resorting to a stiffer suspension.

If the RS is anything to goes by, the next gen Tiggy will be a very good machine.

Got to test drive a MY14 April 2014 build date vRS Estate TDi with DSG and as 99Reza said the drivetrain, engine is a cracker. Very linear power delivery from the muscular TDi. The DSG is very good. It was that easy to drive with torque doing all the work, it was very deceptive and is potent than it seemed. On the motorway there was a little wind noise. Very nice.

Yesterday we made the effort to drive a MY14 Tiguan DSG TDi Pacific. Sadly the vRS is so good it got our attention and now there is another but........ the Tiguan works better for our requirements.

So do we wait for the MY15 Tiguan?

Cheers Al

tigger73

17-08-2014, 09:07 PM

Got to test drive a MY14 April 2014 build date vRS Estate TDi with DSG and as 99Reza said the drivetrain, engine is a cracker. Very linear power delivery from the muscular TDi. The DSG is very good. It was that easy to drive with torque doing all the work, it was very deceptive and is potent than it seemed. On the motorway there was a little wind noise. Very nice.

Yesterday we made the effort to drive a MY14 Tiguan DSG TDi Pacific. Sadly the vRS is so good it got our attention and now there is another but........ the Tiguan works better for our requirements.

So do we wait for the MY15 Tiguan?

Cheers Al

If you're after a diesel Tig I'd be waiting for the MY15. The MY15 in the diesel has the 130TDI motor (MY14 has 103TDI). It will also have a lot more standard features, and if you're keen on it there will likely be an R-line body kit for these too. These should be available for order very shortly and first dealer stock should be here in September(ish).

This will still be based on the Mk6 Golf (MQB platform Tig is still 12+ months away), so if you need to do something in the short term I'd seriously be considering the MY15. That is of course unless the dealers are giving away deals on a MY14 that you can't refuse - though my guess is that as soon as the MY15 is out that the MY14 prices will drop (particularly in the diesel due to the motor change).

Tiggy

20-08-2014, 12:22 PM

would you know what the R-line package for the Tiguan consists of? and on what VAG car is the 130TDI installed now?

tigger73

20-08-2014, 01:14 PM

would you know what the R-line package for the Tiguan consists of? and on what VAG car is the 130TDI installed now?

For the 132TSI/130TDI the R-line option will include: 18" alloys, sport suspension, gearshift paddles, R-line exterior trim (body kit), R-line cloth interior.

The Passat 130TDI Highline currently runs the same motor.

Tiggy

20-08-2014, 11:59 PM

and no bi-xenons ?? .... boohoo

For the 132TSI/130TDI the R-line option will include: 18" alloys, sport suspension, gearshift paddles, R-line exterior trim (body kit), R-line cloth interior.

The Passat 130TDI Highline currently runs the same motor.

tigger73

22-08-2014, 10:39 PM

Spoke to my local dealer today and MY15 stock has been allocated out to dealers. Cars are due to hit the wharves in early Sept with "official" launch in mid-late Sept.

Though given dealers are running short on Golf and Polo I'm sure they'll be keen to get their hands on anything they can sell.

If you can't find a My15 in the colour/options you're after then these can be ordered with delivery in Jan 2015.

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pologti18t

24-08-2014, 12:54 AM

From Goauto

First cab off the rank is an update for the Tiguan compact SUV that arrives in September, which should see the company through until the all-new model lands in 2016.

“Right now we still have two more years to go of the current generation Tiguan,” Mr White said.

“We’re going to be announcing in September fairly significant changes to the Tiguan for the 2015 model year and the first thing that we’re doing is upgrading it.”

This will include a rear-view camera, rear parking sensors and colour touch-screen as standard, and Mr White said the Tiguan’s diesel variant will also gain more power.

“We’re going to be significantly upgrading the diesel variant with a 130kW TDI engine, which is going to bring us to leadership in that class,” he said.

The 2.0-litre four-cylinder diesel in the current Tiguan makes 103kW and 320Nm and the new oil-burner is likely to be a similar engine to the 130kW/380Nm 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbo unit from the 130TDI Passat.

ian

16-09-2014, 07:53 PM

I had a test drive of the 130KW diesel Tiguan on Monday ,It was pretty good plenty of power came with a few extra accessories like a reverse camera and chrome roof rails , of cause the price has increased its now $44990 on road but they will negotiate I got them done to $42,900 but they only offered me $12,000 for my Golf GT so ill have to wait till I sell mine on carsales ,

tigger73

16-09-2014, 11:13 PM

Did you see the new 155 R-line too?

You'll always do a better deal when you have cash in your hand rather than a trade-in... and also when they have a bit more stock and they can't play funny buggers about not having many cars = being able to charge full RRP.

mr gee

17-09-2014, 09:07 PM

Thought you had this in mind

12050

onyertod

18-09-2014, 02:16 PM

Ian, Thanks for this. My missus has one coming on a lease but is a bit short on detail re the updates.

Does it come with sat-nav or is that even more $$$?

thanks,

Max

tigger73

18-09-2014, 04:15 PM

The 155 Rline comes standard with sat nav (RNS510). All the others have the RCD510 with Reverse camera (RVC).

The 132tsi and 130tdi get sports seats with tray tables, chrome trims on the windows and roof rails plus what used to be called the comfort pack with rain sensing wipers and dual zone climate control.

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tigger73

19-09-2014, 02:01 PM

Tiguan 118TSI
• 1.4 litre twincharged TSI engine with 118kW of power with BlueMotion Technology
• Driver Fatigue Detection system
• Cruise control
• Portland 16” alloy wheels (4)
• RCD510 colour touchscreen audio system
• Rear View Camera (RVC) with parking distance sensors rear
• Bluetooth® connectivity and Media Device Interface (MDI)
• XDL – Extended Differential Lock
• Leather multi-function steering wheel and Multi-Function Display (MFD Plus)

Tiguan 132TSI, 130TDI
Additional standard equipment highlights above 118TSI:
• 2.0 litre turbocharged TSI engine with 132kW of power or 2.0 litre TDI engine with 130kW of power
• 4MOTION all-wheel-drive
• Philadelphia 17” alloy wheels (4)
• Comfort sports Alcantara / cloth front seats
• Dual zone climate control air conditioning
• Front fog lights with static cornering lights
• Rain sensing wipers, automatically dimming rear-view mirror and automatic headlights
• Chrome roof rails, lower body side mouldings and trim around window frames
• Dark tinted rear side windows and rear window, 65% light absorbing
• Low Tyre pressure indicator
• Rear (2) in folding tables on front seat backrests

Tiguan 155TSI R-Line
Additional standard equipment highlights above 132TSI and 130TDI:
• 2.0 litre turbocharged TSI engine with 155kW of power
• Mallory 18” alloy wheels (4) with ant-theft wheel bolts
• Adaptive Chassis Control
• R-Line exterior body styling including front and rear bumpers, side sills and rear roof spoiler
• R-Line exterior badging on front radiator grille
• Front door sill trims in aluminium, with R- Line insignia
• RNS510 Satellite navigation system
• Vienna Leather appointed seat upholstery
• Front Sport seats with electric adjustment and R-Line stitched logo on front driver and passenger head restraints
• Gearshift paddles
• Aluminium finish accelerator and brake pedals

Options
• Metallic / Pearl Effect paint
• Vienna Leather Upholstery 132TSI, 130TDI
• RNS510 satellite navigation 132TSI, 130TDI
• R-Line Package 132TSI, 130TDI (Includes features such as Mallory 18” alloy wheels, Sport suspension, gearshift paddles,
R- Line exterior, R- line cloth interior)
• Panoramic Electric glass sunroof 132TSI,130TDI,155TSI R-Line

Exterior Colours
• Pure White
• Titanium Beige Metallic
• Reflex Silver Metallic
• Pepper Grey Metallic
• Night Blue Metallic
• Deep Black Pearl Effect

Interior Trim
• Black Cloth
• Black Comfort Sports Cloth (132TSI,130TDI)
• Black Sports cloth / Grey microfiber (only with R-Line package)
• Black Vienna leather appointed upholstery (R-Line )

Retail Pricing (not including dealer delivery + on-roads)
• 118TSI 1.4 TSI 118kW 6 speed Manual $28,990
• 118TSI 1.4 TSI 118kW 6 speed DSG $31,490
• 132TSI 2.0 TSI 132kW 7 speed DSG $36,990
• 130TDI 2.0 TDI 130kW 7 speed DSG $39,990
• 155TSI R-Line 2.0 TSI 155kW 7 speed $44,990

Option Pricing
• Metallic / Pearl Effect paint $ 700
• RNS510 Satellite Navigation $2,500
• Vienna leather appointed upholstery (132TSI,130TDI) $3,500
• R-Line Package (132TSI,130TDI) $2,500
• Panoramic electric sunroof (132TSI,130TDI,155TSI) $2,000

team_v

19-09-2014, 02:18 PM

So basically, if you want a manual, you have to go the 1.4 twincharged FWD model...........

tigger73

19-09-2014, 05:00 PM

So basically, if you want a manual, you have to go the 1.4 twincharged FWD model...........

Yes manual is limited to the entry level FWD 118TSI to keep pricing in the sub $30k bracket. Everything else is DSG.

VWA has also taken out park assist as standard and won't be offering front sensors as an option by the looks of things either.

Also on the omissions list is adaptive cruise control too :(

However the R-line package is a good option as it sets the Tiguan apart from a lot of other SUVs with grey plastics.

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Sharkie

19-09-2014, 05:14 PM

155TSI now really loaded for the price. Looks like a steal really, and if you add a corp discount to that, low $40K driveaway is doable and such a bargain. Totally new model must be close .......

team_v

19-09-2014, 05:35 PM

155TSI now really loaded for the price. Looks like a steal really, and if you add a corp discount to that, low $40K driveaway is doable and such a bargain. Totally new model must be close .......

New model won't be released until late 2015 in my opinion.
If you want one not in the first batch (usually fully loaded with options to bump up the price) you will have to wait until March/April 2016 i would guess.

tigger73

19-09-2014, 09:12 PM

I pick up the New upgrade model on Tuesday 130KW diesel white was trading the Golf in but only offered $12,000 plus a cash price drive away deal total price of $30,000 decided to sell my car privately .

Ok sold the Golf for $15,000 stepped up to the Pepper grey metallic cash adjustment of $28,000 so the extra saving of nearly $3,000
Pick it up Tuesday free mats and a full tank of Diesel

:banana:

tigger73

20-09-2014, 08:12 AM

155TSI now really loaded for the price. Looks like a steal really, and if you add a corp discount to that, low $40K driveaway is doable and such a bargain. Totally new model must be close .......

Yes the only thing you can option on the 155TSI is a sunroof - apart from metallic paint of course. Everything else comes as standard.

And the other nice thing is that all the R-line models now come with DSG paddle shifters on the steering wheel (finally!!!). Though it is a fairly expensive option if all you want is paddle shifters.

MY15 Tiguans are at dealer showrooms now, however the VW website still has the MY14 specs up. Runout special on the MY14 Tiguan is on until the end of the month at which time any of the remaining MY14 cars will likely end up as demos.

So if you want front sensors/Park Assist 2 or you like the 16" San Diego alloys then you'll need to get one of the remaining MY14 AWD models.

Here's a picture of the new 132TSI/130TDI wheel option (Philadelphia 17”):

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/09/AluPhiladelphiaTiguan-1.jpg

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Volkswagen-Tiguan_2012_800x600_wallpaper_01.jpg

Timbo

20-09-2014, 09:24 AM

Hmm...so, it seems to be a much better value option to get the 155 over the 130 TDI. Also, no bi-xenon lights option?

tigger73

20-09-2014, 10:12 AM

Hmm...so, it seems to be a much better value option to get the 155 over the 130 TDI. Also, no bi-xenon lights option?

Yes if you're looking to add a couple of options to a 132TSI/130TDI you may as well get the 155TSI with "the lot".

Unfortunately no bi-xenons or LED DRL on any models - it's not even on the options list. 155TSI comes with standard halogens only.

As with my previous comments if there are features in the MY14 that are a deal breaker for you that aren't being offered in MY15 you're best off tracking a MY14 down while there's still some left. Everything going forwards will have the new spec.

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Ramee

20-09-2014, 07:57 PM

I think bi xenon's are standered on R Line. At least they are on foreign (UK) Tigs. If it is not even an option too bad, for a R Line pac kage Xenons with DRLs are a must.

Timbo

21-09-2014, 02:38 PM

I saw the 155 TSI R-line at the Canberra German Car Day this morning (see pics). No bi-xenons. The only option is the panoramic sunroof. I was told the ACT OTR a pricing was $52k! Not such good value, methinks!

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Ramee

21-09-2014, 03:09 PM

I saw the 155 TSI R-line at the Canberra German Car Day this morning (see pics). No bi-xenons. The only option is the panoramic sunroof. I was told the ACT OTR a pricing was $52k! Not such good value, methinks!

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I see! too bad, yes it is not that good value for money then and add sunroof + bixenons( if they ever available as an option) price will end up around 57k !! Also no park assist (no front sonars) that is another 1k or so $$.

To be honest only thing I like of that body kit is the rear bumper and narrow wheel arches.

tigger73

02-10-2014, 08:23 AM

Well VW website finally has the new MY15 Tiguan model up (even though the cars have been at dealers for a few weeks).... but the online brochure is still for MY14.

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tigger73

02-10-2014, 02:10 PM

Quick update on the MY15 model options.

If you're looking at adding leather and R-line kit to a 132TSI/130TDI then you can have one or the other but not both. Apparently they are exclusive options and can't be ordered together.

If you want to have a leather R-line then you have to buy the 155TSI where they both come as standard.

If you want bi-xenons, you'll have to wait for MY16/MQB platform and (hopefully) they include them as an option then.

MGV

02-10-2014, 05:29 PM

So, what have you decided on, Damien?

tigger73

02-10-2014, 10:56 PM

So, what have you decided on, Damien?

Well that's the $64 million question... or maybe the $40,000 question :)

My situation at the moment is that the Tig has done just under 90,000km in around 3 years. It's due to have some $ spent on it in the not too distant future (new brake rotors/pads, rego, service, DSG oil change, etc). I know the DSG oil change isn't due just yet but I've been shortening the service intervals.

Anyway the question is whether to spend the ~$2k and keep the Tig for a bit longer or to put the $ towards the next car. Also the other complicating factor is that my wife has put first dibs on the Tig (she's got a Mazda 3 with only 20,000km on the clock). I know it doesn't make sense to keep the car with higher mileage but that's women for you :facepalm:

Soooooo I really don't see any point getting another TSI given that I'm effectively driving around a stage 2 version of the same car (mechanically at least anyway). I could take all the bits off my current car and transfer them to the new one... but then what's the point? A lot of work and around $25-30k to effectively get the same car with the odometer reset.

The only car of any real interest is the 130TDI which I'm hopefully going to drive early next week. If I was going to go down this path I'd seriously look at getting an R-line version. The only disappointment is that you can't get it with bi-xenon and LED DRL which would be a big plus for me and also no leather unless you go without the R-line :(

Which leaves me thinking that I should hang on a bit longer and wait for the MQB Tig... or perhaps the Skoda 7 seater.

Transporter

03-10-2014, 07:27 AM

The $2000 spend to keep your car longer is still less than the deposit for the new car and 1 monthly payment, so if you'd paid off your current car, you're much better of waiting for the new model.

tigger73

03-10-2014, 07:57 AM

The $2000 spend to keep your car longer is still less than the deposit for the new car and 1 monthly payment, so if you'd paid off your current car, you're much better of waiting for the new model.

Yes I know I'm better off waiting for the new model - sincerely hope it's worth the wait. There's also additional costs of RAA/roadside assistance and also fact that the car is no longer under warranty so potential for repair bills.

Also home loan is up for renewal so there's opportunity for cheaper finance....

I think a tuned 130TDI would be a nice car to drive and also something different enough to be interesting. So I guess the other thing motivating me at the moment is that I'm looking for a new "project" :D

Transporter

04-10-2014, 07:44 AM

Yes, 130TDI with the additional 30kW when tuned would be a beast with probably close to a 500Nm of torque. :)

tigger73

07-10-2014, 10:17 PM

Ramee

07-10-2014, 10:48 PM

Well I went and drove a 130TDI today. Wife said it was a bit like deja vu turning the clock back 3 years and I kind of agree with her.

The pick-up in the 130TDI is pretty decent, with overtaking a breeze. The only down-side is that interior-wise it's virtually the same as what we already have and styling on the outside is just a change - not necessarily better just different.

If we weren't already driving a Tiguan, it would put forward a compelling case, however given that we're already driving virtually the same car (albeit one that rides a lot flatter around corners) there's probably not the case to be had that it's $30,000 better.

And it still doesn't fix the problem of 3 growing kids and a (relatively) small boot.

Yes, My guess is that it is not worth buying another same Tig for spending another 30k if you can holding on bit more time. If you are not worrying much about performance wait one or two years and buy next gen Tig or if you not like it then may be you can justify cost for a Touareg by that time. I think your best bets are Toureg and Jeep families. :)

Or even a Macan Turbo !! Who knows ;)

tigger73

07-10-2014, 11:26 PM

Yes, My guess is that it is not worth buying another same Tig for spending another 30k if you can holding on bit more time. If you are not worrying much about performance wait one or two years and buy next gen Tig or if you not like it then may be you can justify cost for a Touareg by that time. I think your best bets are Toureg and Jeep families. :)

Or even a Macan Turbo !! Who knows ;)

Yes that was our conclusion that it certainly wasn't worth spending $30k to upgrade.

Also drove the Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD and although it's a step up in price it certainly makes up for it in terms of size/room and performance.

I haven't driven the Touareg as it is more again and although I'd love one It's probably not going to happen with current financial constraints.

Whatever happens it looks like we may be hanging onto the Tig for a bit longer.....

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Transporter

08-10-2014, 07:38 AM

This one will gie you the great performance, without the mods, but I'm sure you could get improvement with some performance tuning. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8thaIMJd1Rg

tigger73

08-10-2014, 08:07 AM

This one will gie you the great performance, without the mods, but I'm sure you could get improvement with some performance tuning. :)

Somehow I don't think the Merc 6x6 will fit within my budget or the fuel card limits of the company I work for!!!

MGV

08-10-2014, 06:48 PM

Or the driveway!!

tigger73

08-10-2014, 08:06 PM

Or the driveway!!

That was one of the major worries with the Jeep Grand Cherokee, however by folding the mirrors before parking I could park close enough to the house under the carport and still get out!

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Sanman

08-10-2014, 09:27 PM

That was one of the major worries with the Jeep Grand Cherokee, however by folding the mirrors before parking I could park close enough to the house under the carport and still get out!
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I looked rather closely at the Cherokee rather than the Grand Cherokee as a Tiguan replacement. It certainly has a lot of tech for the price. And Cheap.About 200mm longer but pretty much the same package.
The other possibility is the Lexus NX. $60k. Looks are doubtful, better when you see it. A lot of gear, but no park assist.

Transporter

09-10-2014, 06:46 AM

I've looked at Cherokee just in the showroom and it is more off road orientated than Tiguan that's for sure. I like the design, but couldn't buy it so soon after release, it should be at least 2-3 years in production with good reliability reputation.

tigger73

09-10-2014, 08:02 AM

Cherokee has a bigger boot but cabin/rear seat room isn't that much bigger than the Tig if at all.

The downside is the base model FWD has a 2.0 petrol which is pretty gutless, the V6 is thirsty and the 2.0 diesel only comes in the top spec so is not that much different to pricing of Grand Cherokee diesel which is a much better car IMHO.

So for me the model/options for the Cherokee wasn't a good fit.

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Transporter

09-10-2014, 08:11 AM

tigger73

09-10-2014, 11:29 AM

Also, the bigger the car the bigger the running costs too, plus some need more room at the shopping centre to park it and it's not me. :)
I was looking at possible car for my wife and the size of the little cherokee fitted the bill. Though, we have already one bad Jeep experience in the past, so the Tiguan is to stay, well at least for another 6 years. My rule is 10years/160,000km and it's the time for a new one.
So hey, maybe another platform. :)

Yes maintenance on the Grand Cherokee diesel is not cheap - $500 for minor service and $1,500 for major service every 40,000km. Also service interval on these is 10,000km. Yes and parking is harder due to it's size but you can't get space inside and a decent boot without buying a bigger car.

Your wife should be right as by the time you go to upgrade, the MQB platform Tig should be out and all issues with the new model sorted :)

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airofu

11-10-2014, 03:33 PM

Quick question about the 2015 Tiguan MY15, are these usually available from 1st Jan 2015 or take a while for stock to come in?

phaeton

11-10-2014, 03:48 PM

Quick question about the 2015 Tiguan MY15, are these usually available from 1st Jan 2015 or take a while for stock to come in?

They're available now.

See this website on how to decrypt VIN's VW VIN Codes - Club VeeDub (http://www.clubvw.org.au/vwvin)

airofu

11-10-2014, 05:17 PM

They're available now.

See this website on how to decrypt VIN's VW VIN Codes - Club VeeDub (http://www.clubvw.org.au/vwvin)

I thought it would be the 2014 year MY15 available now and not until next year the 2015 year MY15 model is available? Is that from the 1st of Jan or depending on stock at dealers?

tigger73

11-10-2014, 06:10 PM

I thought it would be the 2014 year MY15 available now and not until next year the 2015 year MY15 model is available? Is that from the 1st of Jan or depending on stock at dealers?

The factory changes tooling/options in calendar week 22. Anything built after that build week is designated MY15. The MY15 Tiguans are at the dealers now and anything being built now will have those specs/options.

It's a bit like magazine designations - the November edition is out in October :confused:

pologti18t

23-10-2014, 12:15 PM

2015 Volkswagen Tiguan pricing and specifications (http://www.caradvice.com.au/314823/2015-volkswagen-tiguan-pricing-and-specifications/)

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tigger73

24-10-2014, 09:13 PM

Another article on drive.com.au rates the 130TDI as the pick of the bunch: 2015 Volkswagen Tiguan first drive review (http://www.drive.com.au/new-car-reviews/2015-volkswagen-tiguan-first-drive-review-20141022-119qdj.html)

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romaniac

27-10-2014, 04:35 PM

are there are real fuel consumption tests for the new Tiguan? I'm after the 130tdi and 155tsi comparison against published fuel consumption results.

tigger73

27-10-2014, 04:50 PM

are there are real fuel consumption tests for the new Tiguan? I'm after the 130tdi and 155tsi comparison against published fuel consumption results.

Have a check on this thread for others fuel economy figures: http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f97/official-fuel-economy-thread-formerly-highway-economy-46016.html

Although you may not achieve the published fuel economy figures as environmental conditions and driving style can have a large effect, the relative difference between the two cars should still be fairly valid.

The Motor Report did a comparison between the current models and had fuel economy figures. View the article here: 2015 VW Tiguan Review: 155TSI R-Line, 132TSI, 130TDI, 118TSI | The Motor Report (http://www.themotorreport.com.au/60085/2015-vw-tiguan-review-155tsi-r-line-132tsi-130tdi-118tsi)

Except in the summary table they swapped around the 130TDI and 132TSI so it should have read:

Model Engine/Trans
Power/Torque
Fuel Claimed
Fuel Tested

118TSI 1.4 litre petrol, 2WD 6spd man / 7spd auto
118kW/280Nm
6.9 / 7.3 l/100km
10.7 (auto)

130TDI 2.0 diesel, AWD, 7spd auto
130kW/380Nm
6.2 l/100km
9.1

132TSI 2.0 petrol, AWD, 7spd auto
132kW/280Nm
8.8 l/100km
11.3

155TSI 2.0 petrol, AWD, 7spd auto
155kW/280Nm
8.8 l/100km
13.1

If you read the full article they say they were getting better than 10l/100km even when giving the 130TDI a good hiding. So the above is the corrected table.

romaniac

27-10-2014, 04:59 PM

Thanks for that Tigger, bit scared off by the 13l/100km for the 155 tsi, do you know what type of discount I should be expecting for a 155TSI R Line + sunroof or 130 TDI + sat nav + r line + sunroof + leather, both are $51k RRP, can't see much evidence on here on what people are picking them up for.

tigger73

27-10-2014, 05:41 PM

I am guessing they were "testing out the performance" of the new 155TSI to get those sort of economy figures. I usually run around 10.5l/100km in city and 9.0l/100km for country trips in my stage 2 125TSI (~200kW). Though on spirited drives the fuel consumption does go up a bit.

I haven't seen any pricing recently. Check with VW as the company you work for may be eligible for corporate discount. If you could get 10% you'd be doing very well. Somewhere between 5-8% off full drive away price is probably more realistic.

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romaniac

27-10-2014, 06:52 PM

ok thanks for that, will see how I go and post back! I think the 130TDI is the one to go for.

donweather

28-10-2014, 01:32 PM

Except in the summary table they swapped around the 130TDI and 132TSI so it should have read:

Model Engine/Trans
Power/Torque
Fuel Claimed
Fuel Tested

118TSI 1.4 litre petrol, 2WD 6spd man / 7spd auto
118kW/280Nm
6.9 / 7.3 l/100km
10.7 (auto)

130TDI 2.0 diesel, AWD, 7spd auto
130kW/380Nm
6.2 l/100km
9.1

132TSI 2.0 petrol, AWD, 7spd auto
132kW/280Nm
8.8 l/100km
11.3

155TSI 2.0 petrol, AWD, 7spd auto
155kW/280Nm
8.8 l/100km
13.1

Is the 132TSI and 155TSI the same engine setup (as were the 125TSI and 147TSI models)? If so, I'm surprised at the above consumption figures for the 155TSI as I know with my 147TSI vRS Occy, my fuel consumption figures improved after I bluefinned so I would have thought the 155TSI figures would be as good if not better than the 132TSI (if they're the same engine).

tigger73

28-10-2014, 01:57 PM

Is the 132TSI and 155TSI the same engine setup (as were the 125TSI and 147TSI models)? If so, I'm surprised at the above consumption figures for the 155TSI as I know with my 147TSI vRS Occy, my fuel consumption figures improved after I bluefinned so I would have thought the 155TSI figures would be as good if not better than the 132TSI (if they're the same engine).

The 132 and 155 are the same engine. The guy driving the 155TSI was probably just wringing its neck a bit more. The 132TSI has its power output/curve clamped so running higher into the rev range is not so much fun (effectively loses 23kW). So I'm guessing everyone gave the 155 a bit more of a "test" and hence the worse economy numbers.

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tigger73

15-02-2015, 10:11 PM

OK I'll throw this one out there that apparently along with the 2016 Tiguan, there's also rumoured to be a Tiguan CC version coming out also...

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Whether we see this or not is still in question.

tigger73

20-03-2015, 09:48 PM

Another "artists impression" of the 2016 Tiguan.

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According to insiders it's getting launched at the Frankfurt motor show in September, but we'll just have to wait and see.

phaeton

25-03-2015, 05:41 PM

VW let some journalists a sneak peak of the new Tiguan here's there impressions - VW turns up design so crossovers will hit right note in U.S. (http://www.autonews.com/article/20150323/OEM03/303239964/vw-turns-up-design-so-crossovers-will-hit-right-note-in-u-s)

phaeton

10-06-2015, 08:22 PM

First Spy Photos All-New 2016 Volkswagen Tiguan Looks Like a Baby Touareg in Latest Spy Photos - autoevolution (http://www.autoevolution.com/news/all-new-2016-volkswagen-tiguan-looks-like-a-baby-touareg-in-latest-spy-photos-96488.html) (Spy Photos)

The body shape is more Q5/Macan/Forester, as the article says like a mini Touareg :D

Converted

02-07-2015, 11:47 PM

Anyone tested the new MY16 Tiguan R-Line's Discovery Media system yet?
Looking at the Tig as a possible second car.

tigger73

04-07-2015, 12:39 AM

Anyone tested the new MY16 Tiguan R-Line's Discovery Media system yet?
Looking at the Tig as a possible second car.

I believe the first MY16 cars will only land in Australia in August.

Hillbilly

27-07-2015, 08:07 PM

PerthMTB

27-07-2015, 09:27 PM

New Volkswagen Tiguan here next year - motoring.com.au (http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015/medium-passenger/volkswagen/tiguan/new-volkswagen-tiguan-here-next-year-52362?WT.mc.id=display_outbrain_ron_image-text_content_&WT.seg_4=display_outbrain_ron_image-text_content_)

Cant find a post about it so here it is

My local dealer isn't expecting to get hold of any of the new Tiguans until end of next year - like Nov/Dec 2016. Even then VW choose what models, colours, and accessories they ship out to the dealers in the first batch, and if you don't like what's offered and want to order your own spec, then it'll more likely be 1Q 2017 before you get one!

So, if you're willing to wait 18 months ok, but I decided to order one of the current ones instead. It may not have the most up to date styling, or all the bells & whistles some of the newer competitors have, but after exhaustively test driving about everything in the class over the last few months I still think the current Tig is the best drive of the bunch.

syhm1984

15-08-2015, 09:55 PM

I have placed a order for MY16 155R Line. Delivery date is around mid September

PerthMTB

15-08-2015, 10:46 PM

I have placed a order for MY16 155R Line. Delivery date is around mid September

Yes, I've also got an MY16 on order which will be arriving in November. But that's the last facelift of the 'old' Tiguan using the PQ35 platform, launched in 2007, not to be confused with the completely new model model based on the MQB platform, which is widely expected to be launched at the Frankfurt Motor Show next month, but won't be arriving in the Australian dealers until the end of next year (Dec 2016).

tigger73

16-08-2015, 08:38 AM

I think we might have to change the title of the thread. Possibly a little hopeful that we were going to get the new Tig a bit sooner but looks like it will be MY17 now before we see it here....

Still yet to see any photos/images of it. Either the spy photographers aren't really interested in it or VW is doing a good job of keeping it under wraps.

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tigger73

26-08-2015, 03:39 PM

Here's an article on the next gen Tiguan and spy shots: SPY PICS: Volkswagen's next Tiguan on test - motoring.com.au (http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015/small-4x4/volkswagen/tiguan/spy-pics-volkswagens-next-tiguan-on-test-51900)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/

http://liveimages.motoring.com.au/motoring/general/editorial/ge5616042704840739384.jpg

http://liveimages.motoring.com.au/motoring/general/editorial/ge5098775319798339415.jpg

http://liveimages.motoring.com.au/motoring/general/editorial/ge5236489284336007136.jpg

http://liveimages.motoring.com.au/motoring/general/editorial/ge5191537625794537582.jpg

PerthMTB

27-08-2015, 10:14 PM

Forget rounded wheel arches and a few mm of extra length, read somewhere that the new Tig will have an internet-linked infotainment system - now that'll be interesting!

Dingah

28-08-2015, 07:00 AM

Terrific - an opportunity to be hacked or rear ended playing with internal displays.....
Not keen on the colour scheme of these trials vehicles!

Dingah

PerthMTB

28-08-2015, 11:04 AM

Terrific - an opportunity to be hacked or rear ended playing with internal displays.....

Ha! I'm sure they'll block you surfing the net as you're driving, just like currently you can't play movies. But, the value in linking the car to the internet is things that go on in the background that don't need input from you - like real time traffic/accident updates for your SatNav, or guiding you to the servo with the cheapest fuel today, breakdown assistance arriving with a spare part because they already know what the problem is, or starting the aircon from your smartphone five minutes before you get to the car on a hot day.

Personally, I think the hacking angle has been overhyped by a few security firms wanting to get business from the car manufacturers - remember the non-event of the Millenium Bug? Not saying hacking won't happen, but like anything else there will be a constant tech-war between the hackers and security programmers and the problem will be minimised for us regular car users. If there's demand for a service, a way will be found to make it secure. I was working for a bank in the 90's and was told Internet banking would never happen because of the security concerns, but look at it now, I haven't set foot in a bank in eight years and I don't even know where my nearest branch is - maybe my internet linked car can tell me :google: Ha ha!

Dingah

28-08-2015, 05:33 PM

I hear you and like most of us it is likely your 'wealth' exists only in the form of digital software on a Bank's server...........somewhere......noting that certain of our economic 'buddies' out there are quite capable of crippling that system along with power grids et al in less than 5 minutes should they wish.
Convenience and improved access can be very seductive as long as those being seduced understand the potential outcomes.....eg vehicle proximity keys and real hacking and theft.
How many know how much data Google has on them right now along with Facebook et al? ......a professional hacker and INTEL dream resources.
I gave up believing in unicorns, fairies and rainbows some years ago......but reality can be bland and tedious without the colour of optimism.

Dingah

PerthMTB

28-08-2015, 10:55 PM

Hillbilly

29-08-2015, 06:49 AM

Not wanting to feed the doomsday scenarios about internet connected cars, but more worrying to me than the prospect of someone hacking into your car system to steal the car, is them using a good old fashioned brick to break a window and just stealing the head unit.

Afterall, it'll be worth more to the right (wrong!?!) people than the car itself. It'll be the equivalent of stealing your mobile phone, work computer, and home computer combined, as the car will have all your personal details, internet passwords, online banking details, address, telephone numbers etc in it's memory - and its parked outside in your drive all night. Identity theft made easy!

:duh: Only if you put them in there of course.

Why would you do your banking etc in your car.

Personally I prefer to keep my business to myself

I dont use any of the social media outlets and so no one knows anything like that.

I think a car is a thing to drive from place to place and the less connectivity to any outside influence the better.

If you cant spend an hour or so without being connected to everyone there is something wrong.

Driving is a full time job, not something you do while talking on the phone, playing with the entertainment unit, reading paperwork (yes seen that) or eating breakfast.

Waits for flames

I only use one computer which has plenty of protection to do my personal busness

Dingah

29-08-2015, 05:16 PM

No flames for common-sense surely?
People can make their own choice and then accept the responsibility for their own actions.
The simplest faux pas is still the one of marking your home address on the SATNAV in your car and leaving a remote for the garage door at that address in the same car - what a gift for a thief with half a brain.
Other than living on a desert island somewhere remote there is no way of protecting against every threat - I just hope my insurances cover everything.

Dingah

Hillbilly

29-08-2015, 05:37 PM

phaeton

01-09-2015, 06:06 PM

Next Tiguan with R Line body kit spotted in Canada during film shoot

New 2017 VW Tiguan Photographed Completely Undisguised! (http://www.carscoops.com/2015/08/new-2017-vw-tiguan-photographed.html)

team_v

01-09-2015, 07:39 PM

Looks like a very chunky front end.
I assume this is the R-Line variant.

tigger73

01-09-2015, 08:16 PM

Really looking forward to seeing this one in the flesh. Initial pics looks like it's a big step forwards in styling:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/2017VWTiguanCarscoops10-2.jpg

arcadelt

02-09-2015, 11:02 AM

The back end has a Toureg feel to it, but unfortunately this is not really the angle we usually look at cars from, so its a bit hard to tell.

jbounce

05-09-2015, 07:01 AM

New tig?
IAA Insider: VW Tiguan 2016: Ab 26.000 Euro, 125 bis 240 PS: So rollt der neue VW Tiguan an - FOCUS Online (http://www.focus.de/auto/neuheiten/suvs/iaa-insider-vw-tiguan-2016-ab-26-000-euro-125-bis-240-ps-alles-ueber-den-neuen-vw-tiguan_id_4921641.html)

tigger73

05-09-2015, 07:18 AM

Just had it confirmed that the new Tiguan will be unveiled at Frankfurt motor show on the 15th of this month - VW Confirms New 2017 Tiguan For Frankfurt Motor Show (http://www.carscoops.com/2015/09/vw-confirms-new-2017-tiguan-for.html)

Only 10 more sleeps :)

jbounce

05-09-2015, 08:20 AM

Thanks Tig. you think it may be possible the previous link may be the new model? Its in german or sonething so im not sure.

tigger73

05-09-2015, 08:28 AM

Those pictures that you linked to are artists impressions of what someone thinks it might look like. The photo a couple of posts back is the first one in the flesh that doesn't have a camouflage cover on. All will be revealed in a few more days.

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donweather

05-09-2015, 09:39 AM

Looks very toureg like from the front and sides and audi-ish from the rear. I do like it but.

donweather

05-09-2015, 09:44 AM

Thanks Tig. you think it may be possible the previous link may be the new model? Its in german or sonething so im not sure.

2016 VW Tiguan to debut at the 2015 Frankfurt Motor Show (http://indianautosblog.com/2015/01/2016-vw-tiguan-debut-at-2015-frankfurt-motor-show-165939)

tigger73

13-09-2015, 11:21 PM

Here's a couple of "leaked" stylized sketches of the new Tiguan:

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Hopefully we'll see the real thing in the next couple of days...

Timbo

15-09-2015, 02:28 AM

Here you go
2017 Volkswagen Tiguan: This Is It (http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/2017-volkswagen-tiguan-this-is-it-1730518252)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibzcmG0b4sw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--UPvTvrdZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjaCFlR8Pwk

Bigger, more efficient 2016 VW Tiguan arrives | Auto Express (http://flip.it/RvD7h)

phaeton

15-09-2015, 04:56 AM

The full press release Frankfurt IAA 2015: World premiere the new Tiguan | VWWatercooled Australia (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/2015/09/frankfurt-iaa-2015-world-premiere-the-new-tiguan/)

Tiguan GTE Frankfurt IAA 2015: The new Tiguan GTE Concept | VWWatercooled Australia (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/2015/09/frankfurt-iaa-2015-the-new-tiguan-gte-concept/)

Tiguan (Offroad)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/DB2015AU01368_largeJPG-2.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/DB2015AU01365_largeJPG-2.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/DB2015AU01364_largeJPG-2.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/DB2015AU01363_largeJPG-2.jpg

Tiguan R Line
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/DB2015AU01362_largeJPG-2.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/DB2015AU01360_largeJPG-2.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/DB2015AU01359_largeJPG-2.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/DB2015AU01354_largeJPG-2.jpg

Tiguan GTE Concept
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/DB2015AU01344_largeJPG-2.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/09/DB2015AU01338_largeJPG-2.jpg

arcadelt

15-09-2015, 06:57 AM

tigger73

15-09-2015, 07:47 AM

They change d the exhaust back to a single twin exit instead of a dual exit system on the promo cars. That's a bit of a shame really.

Other than that I'm really liking what I see. Definitely sitting a bit lower/squatter and the R-line kits looks on point.

Interested to see what engines that they've put into this.

AdamD

15-09-2015, 09:23 AM

Now that's a great-looking Tiguan!

dero

15-09-2015, 11:26 AM

This Tiguan looks great: very contemporary. Let's see if VW Australia will be "brave" enough to bring the GTE version to Australia if it is developed. They have been timid doing the same for the eco versions of the Golf (including the e-Golf and Golf GTE), despite bringing over the similar Audi stablemate.
One of the first news reports I've read on it is saying that VW Australia may not bring the GTE over citing inadequate infrastructure for charging the car.

I don't get it - it's a plug in hybrid! It doesn't need to be plugged in if you don't want to or can't. It can run on it's 1.4L TSI happily and the regenerative systems as well as the solar panel on the roof would charge the battery back up until you get home and have the opportunity to perform the plug in. It's not as if you'll end up being stranded if you run out of battery.

1.9L/100km cited consumption and a boosted cargo of something close to 145L is an amazing upgrade. Increase of 61mm overall length and 30mm width. Wheel base lengthened by 30mm. Slightly bigger all over.

I really hope that VWA brings this over.

Riker

15-09-2015, 06:28 PM

WOW, that is a good looking unit. Bigger, sits better & certainly looks like it has gone a level up almost...

phaeton

15-09-2015, 07:27 PM

shauno

15-09-2015, 07:34 PM

Looks good, hope the 160TDI & 165TSI are available here w/ r-line!

The TDI might even be the pick of the two...

team_v

15-09-2015, 07:58 PM

Wow, the front end on that thing is hideous.

The back is good but they really struggle to make the front work with the size of the car and the corporate face.

More info here: 2017 VW Tiguan Is Bigger, More Mature And More Premium (http://www.carscoops.com/2015/09/2017-vw-tiguan-is-bigger-more-mature.html)

jbounce

15-09-2015, 09:34 PM

Sweet I like!

tigger73

15-09-2015, 09:41 PM

Engine options in the MQB Tiguan are 92kW, 110kW, 132kW and 162kW petrol engines and 85kW, 110kW, 140KW and 176kW diesel engines. We'll have to wait and see what VWA decides to bring here.

phaeton

15-09-2015, 10:22 PM

Found the international microsite just now The new Tiguan. (http://tiguan.volkswagen.com/int/en/home.html)

tigger73

15-09-2015, 10:49 PM

Wow nice find phaeton!!!!

Looks like they've really given the new Tiguan some serious thought/consideration/attention to detail and that it's clearly an important model in the new line-up.

Ramee

16-09-2015, 04:50 AM

Nice find!! but looks like a "Jeep wanna be" to me!

tigger73

16-09-2015, 06:46 AM

Well you could say it's got some styling cues from Jeep/BMW/Land Rover by making it a bit more chunky. Styling is always going to be a personal thing. I quite like it but will reserve my judgement once the final specs for Oz are confirmed and of course how it drives is going to be the clincher. Given that it's lower and squatter, hopefully handling is improved (less body roll).

I'm almost certain that this one is going to be bigger and better than the last Tig. Hopefully pricing is around the same. Now only to wait another year+ until it arrives here....

shauno

16-09-2015, 08:55 AM

Engine options in the MQB Tiguan are 92kW, 110kW, 132kW and 162kW petrol engines and 85kW, 110kW, 140KW and 176kW diesel engines.
Wow, didn't think the 176TDI would be an option, that'd be my pick!

Pity we're likely to end up with the 110TDI, 110TSI & 162TSI only :(

dero

16-09-2015, 10:46 AM

Not to be a kill joy but no GTE model will be coming to Australia until infrastructure is set up for it according to all prior statements made by representatives of Volkswagen Group Australia.

The only vehicle currently within the group with this technology here is the Audi A3 e-tron.
Completely buggered if I can figure out what infrastructure you need to maintain a hybrid on the road.

For a wholly electric vehicle, a network of fast charge stations being required - wholly understand this being a prerequisite requirement... but for a hybrid? If the battery pack runs out of juice, it'll run on the petrol motor. This GTE will also have solar panels to help with trickle charging too. Toyota have their hybrids in the Prius, Prius C, Prius V, Camry, CT200h, IS300h, ES300h, NX200h, GS300h, RX450h and co and we don't have a Toyota supercharger network. Having a home power point be converted/installed to supply the plug in charge point for the car I would have thought should be infrastructure enough to be an owner?

I'm not contesting that there won't be a GTE coming (already evidenced by the GTE Golf being vapourware here) but I'm just unable to comprehend what infrastructure requirement that is actually needed.. ?

Sharkie

16-09-2015, 03:38 PM

Showed SWMBO the pictures last night and she gave the approval ;) for this to be her next car when (if) the 7 seater lands in Oz. 162TSI R-Line spec would be it for us.

mr gee

16-09-2015, 07:13 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaleULrviTU

phaeton

16-09-2015, 09:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sokD3NLAVJI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pjqCzxJ83U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLw3361283Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Gi0VuPz6E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXKtykS8FRQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqc7TR5hw8w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O7duj4HNhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu5BgfB1MGI

phaeton

16-09-2015, 10:00 PM

Completely buggered if I can figure out what infrastructure you need to maintain a hybrid on the road.

For a wholly electric vehicle, a network of fast charge stations being required - wholly understand this being a prerequisite requirement... but for a hybrid? If the battery pack runs out of juice, it'll run on the petrol motor. This GTE will also have solar panels to help with trickle charging too. Toyota have their hybrids in the Prius, Prius C, Prius V, Camry, CT200h, IS300h, ES300h, NX200h, GS300h, RX450h and co and we don't have a Toyota supercharger network. Having a home power point be converted/installed to supply the plug in charge point for the car I would have thought should be infrastructure enough to be an owner?

I'm not contesting that there won't be a GTE coming (already evidenced by the GTE Golf being vapourware here) but I'm just unable to comprehend what infrastructure requirement that is actually needed.. ?

One of the infrastructures is dealer network and training etc. IIRC only 2 South Australian dealers invested to be a Holden Volt dealer which required additional investment on behalf of those dealers. Now Holden have stated the next generation Volt will not be made for Australia due to lack of sales. So is the dealer investment worth it?? Are the car makers their own worst enemies?

Does the government give enough incentive for this technology???

The mild hybrids you mention above are not plug-in hybrids to my knowledge. Not sure on what additional differences their might be between mild hybrids and plug-in hybrids apart from the obvious that one is plugged into charge up, with regards to maintenance.

I understand where you are coming from but Volkswagen classes us as a 'Hot Weather' country which VW has used to limit certain models and specs from coming here. (When most of the time the Audi equivalent sells here???)

vw_alex

17-09-2015, 03:49 AM

I'm almost certain that this one is going to be bigger and better than the last Tig. Hopefully pricing is around the same. Now only to wait another year+ until it arrives here....

I thought it was only the long wheel base version was going to take that long? Are they talking Q3-Q4 2016 for ANY new model?!

tigger73

17-09-2015, 06:54 AM

I thought it was only the long wheel base version was going to take that long? Are they talking Q3-Q4 2016 for ANY new model?!

Yes that's what VWA has said that it'll be q3/q4 2016 before we see these here. This is in line with what happens globally with new models - Australia is one of the last places to get the new model.

There has been mentioned that the LWB version is only going to be sold in China and the U.S. And probably not until 2017 or so. We'll just have to wait and see on this one.

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dinot81

17-09-2015, 05:47 PM

The new Tiguan is going for sale in Germany from April 2016. The new Passat was available from November 2014 in Germany and 11 months later (Oct 2015) going for sale here in Oz. We would be lucky to see the new models at at all in 2016 if you ask me.

Timbo

18-09-2015, 02:04 AM

tigger73

18-09-2015, 04:50 AM

Probably the biggest factor is going to be getting volume from the factory. This is why they stagger the releases around the world.

There's usually a peak in sales in the first 3-6 months and then drops off after that. Personally I don't mind that we're not first on the list as it gives time for the factory to sort out any issues with the new model before they start shipping vehicles here.

If Europe is only getting the new Tig early next year then I think it's optimistic that we get it by the end of 2016. Launch date for the new model can also be effected by the amount of stock of the old model that is still being held by VWA and the dealers.

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PerthMTB

18-09-2015, 11:18 AM

I'm a little more optimistic, based on the fact the CUV market, at which the Tig is aimed, is very competitive...probably more than that of the Passat. So I doubt very much if VWA and its dealers could stand silent without a up-to-date competitive product for 12mths.....I do hope I'm not disappointed!

Don't mean to dampen your enthusiasm, but as I already said further up the thread, my dealer isn't expecting his first new Tigs until Q4 2016, and then only a few limited examples and with the colours/specs dictated by the distributor. They will deliberately spread the first few around and they will be 'fully optioned' (therefore expensive) models to give that Wow! factor in the showrooms. If you wait until detailed pricing & specs on the Oz models are available (probably about the same time the first ones arrive in the showrooms), and then order one to your own spec, and considering the order lag on even the current models is four months, you'll likely be waiting until 2Q 2017 before you get your car.

Sure the SUV market is competitive, and as soon as a new model is announced the old one is dead in the water bar a few bargain hunters. But the Oz market is tiny compared to Europe, US, and China so they will give them priority as production is still ramping up.

Sharkie

18-09-2015, 11:23 AM

Not too fussed on the Oz release dates as I want a Jan 2017 build anyway, will order in Oct/Nov 16 and should have delivery in March 2017 .....

Was going to order a new Polo GTI early next year for my wife, but that is now off the cards as she'd rather the new Tiguan.

Sharkie

07-01-2016, 10:08 AM

And some more (of the same really) information ...

New 2016 Volkswagen Tiguan: latest pics, specs and full details | Auto Express (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/tiguan/91784/new-2016-volkswagen-tiguan-latest-pics-specs-and-full-details)

In blue a 2.0TSI R-Line has a good chance of finding a spot at my house ......

dero

12-01-2016, 11:01 PM

R-Line in the Tiguan is basically a slightly lowered set of suspension, a body kit, some badges and the paddle shifters on the steering wheel, right?

Dingah

13-01-2016, 05:06 AM

No it's not.
Leather throughout, electric drivers seat, larger wheels & tyres and flared wheel arch guards, colour coding on body, 7 speed DSG with flat bottom wheel and paddles, RNS 510, adaptive, fog lights, electric chassis control with 3 settings...............
Very different than the R-line kit option on other models....and that's the current model. Expect more in the 2016 release.

Dingah

MGV

13-01-2016, 05:56 AM

I don't think 'slightly lowered suspension', though could be wrong...

tigger73

13-01-2016, 06:40 AM

It depends whether you're talking about the new model or the current one (this thread is about the new model due here later this year).

Current model there is the R-line (155TSI petrol) which is the top of the range and comes with a heap of options including adjustable suspension. You can also option up the 132TSI or 130TDI with an R-line kit but you'll miss out on a few of the options that the R-line model gets (adjustable suspension, leather R-line seats and probably one or 2 other bits).

There's no news yet of what model options will be available here let alone what motors they are going to bring for the MY17 new shape.

Here's hoping they offer the R-line kit with 162kW petrol or if not at least the 176kW bi-turbo diesel :P

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Sharkie

13-01-2016, 11:19 AM

I am expecting the Gen3 EA888 (~162kw) to be available in the top of the line petrol model. Everything I've read and a recent (2 days ago) conversation with a VW dealer points towards that.

With an APR tune only that will deliver a ~235kw/515NM beast which will do me (sorry SWMBO) nicely.

Was hoping to see a 7seat option sooner than the expected mid 2017, but apparently that is extremely unlikely.

EDIT: Of particular interest was 1 article I read that said the Active 4Motion system in the new Tiguan will have a dial by which the driver will be able to set the engagement of the AWD system for different driving conditions. A rear biased setting for "performance" driving would be awesome. Even a true 50:50 setting would be welcome.

tigger73

13-01-2016, 11:54 AM

Sharkie

13-01-2016, 12:13 PM

I have heard that APR is developing a "mild" stage 3 kit for the R/S3 which is a moderate turbo upgrade for those looking to move away from the stock turbo. Wondering if anything like that will be available for the 162TSI engine in the next 12 months.

Going too much more that 235kw on a FWD car is pretty pointless but if it's on an AWD platform that's a completely different story.

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Or this, a R turbo for the GTI and possibly new Tiguan engines ..... APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles. (http://goapr.com.au/products/turbo_20t_g3_is38_mqb-au.html)

287kw ..... :cool:

tigger73

13-01-2016, 12:31 PM

Or this, a R turbo for the GTI and possibly new Tiguan engines ..... APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles. (http://goapr.com.au/products/turbo_20t_g3_is38_mqb-au.html)

287kw ..... :cool:

I think 287kw should be sufficient for a low 4's 0-100 time...

cellrsx

15-01-2016, 03:35 PM

Brochure for the German release is up at:

http://www.volkswagen.de/content/medialib/vwd4/de/dialog/pdf/tiguan0/tiguan_katalog/_jcr_content/renditions/rendition.download_attachment.file/tiguan_katalog.pdf

Looks like they have:

- 132 TSI 4MOTION
- 110 TDI FWD
- 110 TDI 4MOTION

Be interesting to see what variants we get here in Oz.

shauno

15-01-2016, 08:24 PM

Looks good, 20's as a factory option too - hope we get a 165TSI option though...

tigger73

15-01-2016, 10:07 PM

Good news is the 132TSI is a 2.0 litre and not the 1.8. Fingers crossed its just a detuned version of the 162TSI.

fung9420

30-01-2016, 01:50 AM

Or this, a R turbo for the GTI and possibly new Tiguan engines ..... APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles. (http://goapr.com.au/products/turbo_20t_g3_is38_mqb-au.html)

287kw ..... :cool:

Sounds nice.
I can dump the S3 turbo into Tiguan and the s3 can get stage3 kit.
Not wasting the parts. 280kw Tiguan and 380+kW s3. Haha dreaming

tigger73

30-01-2016, 06:51 AM

Sounds nice.
I can dump the S3 turbo into Tiguan and the s3 can get stage3 kit.
Not wasting the parts. 280kw Tiguan and 380+kW s3. Haha dreaming

Sounds like a plan! :P

mattaus

02-03-2016, 10:20 PM

cellrsx

03-03-2016, 02:51 PM

Sorry of this has been covered elsewhere in this thread, but are details regarding internal and external dimensions available yet? I'm hoping the new Tiguan sits in between the Golf and the Touareg in terms of size, rather than just being a taller Golf like the current model is.

Page 25 of the German spec/pricelist has illustrations of the FWD and 4MOTION variants with the dimensions...

http://www.volkswagen.de/content/medialib/vwd4/de/dialog/pdf/tiguan-2016/tiguan_preisliste/_jcr_content/renditions/rendition.download_attachment.file/tiguan_preisliste.pdf

mattaus

03-03-2016, 09:50 PM

Page 25 of the German spec/pricelist has illustrations of the FWD and 4MOTION variants with the dimensions...

http://www.volkswagen.de/content/medialib/vwd4/de/dialog/pdf/tiguan-2016/tiguan_preisliste/_jcr_content/renditions/rendition.download_attachment.file/tiguan_preisliste.pdf

The link earlier in the thread wasn't working for me. Not sure if there was another link posted but it doesn't matter now. Thanks!

tigger73

06-03-2016, 06:54 PM

There's a couple of reviews of the new Tiguan on snow:

Volkswagen Tiguan 2016 Review - motoring.com.au (http://www.motoring.com.au/volkswagen-tiguan-2015-review-101198/)

First look: 2016 Volkswagen Tiguan (http://www.drive.com.au/motor-reviews/first-look-2016-volkswagen-tiguan-20160207-gmo2tp.html)

Model line-up and engines are still TBA, however my guess is we get the AWD 132kW and 162kW petrols and 140TDI with 176TDI to come later (perhaps).

As far as a FWD entry level model I'm not sure whether VW will bring a manual only 1.4l 92kW petrol engine in. I'm sure they would prefer a DSG option as well but according to the article this looks like it's only available in an AWD 110kW variant.

I guess we'll still have to wait and see what unfolds.

andrew7

07-03-2016, 08:55 AM

Would love to see the 140TDI, I would have thought they would bring the 110TDI to match the Golf (but would be happy to be proved wrong!)

Sharkie

07-03-2016, 03:38 PM

Sorry of this has been covered elsewhere in this thread, but are details regarding internal and external dimensions available yet? I'm hoping the new Tiguan sits in between the Golf and the Touareg in terms of size, rather than just being a taller Golf like the current model is.

The current was not really just a taller Golf. It was a car with a bigger interior than the Golf with the 4Motion drivetrain of a Golf R. Sort of a taller Golf R with a detuned engine and more space really.

New 1 looks awesome ....

OilBurna

06-04-2016, 09:11 AM

VW Tiguan (2016) review by CAR Magazine (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/vw-tiguan-2016-review/)

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Brissie_Mick

06-04-2016, 10:58 PM

56 minute video review here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP57qj6AmPA

tigger73

11-04-2016, 09:15 PM

The new Tiguan is up on the UK website: New Tiguan : Volkswagen UK (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/tiguan-nf/home)

Specs and price list for UK are here: THE NEW TIGUAN - UK PRICE AND SPECIFICATION GUIDE (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/common/pdf/pricelists/tiguan-nf-pricelist.pdf)

They get the bi-turbo diesel... but only a 132kW 2.0TSI.

tigger73

15-04-2016, 09:24 PM

Wheels mag write-up: 2017 Volkswagen Tiguan review (http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/reviews/1604/2017-volkswagen-tiguan-review/)

It looks very familiar to the article on motoring.com.au too: Volkswagen Tiguan 2016 Review - motoring.com.au (http://www.motoring.com.au/volkswagen-tiguan-2016-review-101959/)

ian

16-04-2016, 09:16 AM

22618

The new Tiguan.

ian

16-04-2016, 09:35 AM

22620

Looks the goods

nickows

17-04-2016, 05:46 PM

tigger73

17-04-2016, 06:38 PM

Is there much info yet on the new 7 speed DSG that the new Tiguan is being fitted with in the 4Motion models? ie - torque and power handling capability? What version of the DSG will the petrol models be fitted with? DQ250 or DQ500?

I haven't been able to find much about it, but if the DSG transmission can handle it, a 132kW 4Motion with a Stage 1 or 2 tune could be very tempting :)

The 7 speed DSG in the new Tiguan is very likely the same as in the current one (DQ500). As per the designation it's designed for 500Nm and can probably take a bit more than that. It's a much stronger transmission/gearbox than the DQ250 in the Golf GTI/R.

Stage 1/2 will be fine. There are quite a few stage 2 Tiguans in the first gen using this gearbox. There were even a few that upgrade the turbo to K04 and Guy/Harding Performance built a stage 3 using the stock DSG (with upgraded software only).

I'll be keen to see what hardware the new Tiguan comes with and if the 132TSI is just a "detuned" 162TSI similar to the current gen. Also it will depend on the suspension offering and whether the R-line is available with the 132TSI engine.

We'll know more closer to the launch date. The specs for the UK are even a little sketchy.

nickows

18-04-2016, 02:11 PM

Thanks for the info

tigger73

01-05-2016, 10:56 AM

Playing around with some wheel selections...

22875

22876

newVWplease

10-05-2016, 10:37 AM

I'm really keen on this car!

I just hope VW don't do what other car sellers are doing now with comparable vehicles in the class

Please please please have a build option that has the mid powered engine but includes all the tech, comfort and safety goodies inside.... and NO sunfoof and NO large diameter wheels.

It seems that these days the only way to get a car with all the comforts inside is to also have the build with the biggest engine and sporty external extras which I don't want/need.

Dutch77

10-05-2016, 10:59 AM

Playing around with some wheel selections...

Tailor made for some FF01s for sure. ;)

I'll be interested to see the standard models alongside the R Line to see the differences in the flesh - assuming of course the R Line comes out early. The increase in boot space certainly puts it on the radar in any case.

mattaus

10-05-2016, 11:55 PM

I'm in Germany right now and stopped by a local dealer to see this car in person. Much nicer than I thought. I have a few photos if anyone is interested.

Dutch77

11-05-2016, 08:55 AM

Yes please. :)

Paul_R

11-05-2016, 02:03 PM

I've started looking at replacement options for the other half's Passat. She is insisting on 7 seats again even though she never used them when she had them! So the new Mazda CX-9 will get a look in again along with the Kia and Hyundai 7 seaters.

While I'm not opposed to another Mazda, I suspect their 2.5 petrol turbo will suck only slightly less 91 RON than the 3.5 V6 did - 24 l/100kph around town thank you. 10 on highway. I don't want a diesel as her miles are going to be 95% stop start short trips. A hybrid would be excellent.

Does anyone know how big the Tiguan 7-seater will be? Is it a SKodiaq re-skinned in terms of size? Are we expecting a hybrid Tiguan?

I gather the Skodiaq will be here end of this year but 7 seat Tiguan mid 2017?

mattaus

11-05-2016, 03:39 PM

My photography skills leave a lot to be desired, but here they are:

Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet (http://imgur.com/d1R80P9)
Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet (http://imgur.com/rGFHDZW)
Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet (http://imgur.com/UVU4hGW)
Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet (http://imgur.com/cVNoTLq)
Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet (http://imgur.com/E05u7Nq)
http://imgur.com/DPND4oh
http://imgur.com/IcUyAuD
http://imgur.com/q90VooI
http://imgur.com/a1ZZsTt
http://imgur.com/EjqnSnD

All I can say is despite apparently being only slightly bigger than the current gen Tiguan, the new model looks bigger on the road to me. Interior wise it feels LOTS bigger.

Dutch77

11-05-2016, 03:50 PM

Confirms my suspicion that overall it's a good design but it's weakest angle by far in the rear three quarter - especially the tails.

Obviously a picture only goes so far but the boot looks bigger.. that contributed to the current gen being scrubbed off our list at the time.

mattaus

11-05-2016, 04:13 PM

Yeah the boot is tonnes bigger and front on the car looks like a beast. No R specs on the floor sadly (it was a very small regional dealer. I was actually surprised to even see one at all out here!)

Sharkie

11-05-2016, 04:52 PM

Yeah the boot is tonnes bigger and front on the car looks like a beast. No R specs on the floor sadly (it was a very small regional dealer. I was actually surprised to even see one at all out here!)

Nicely spotted mattaus!

I have just returned from 5 weeks in Europe with 3 of those weeks in or near Germany and did not see a single new Tig! Lots of other VWs, in fact by far the most common car on the road ...... I even stopped at a VW dealer in Fussen in Bavaria (near Neuschwanstein Castle) to have a look at whats on the floor.

EDIT: I did see a V6 TDI prototype Amarok though ..... go figure .... and a whole 3 weeks before they were officially announced!

mattaus

11-05-2016, 05:29 PM

Nicely spotted mattaus!

I have just returned from 5 weeks in Europe with 3 of those weeks in or near Germany and did not see a single new Tig!

Yeah we were walking through Munich and a new Tig with advertising plastered all over it drove right past us so I figured if I saw a dealer on our road trip I'd pop in. Had a good laugh with the salesman (once I found one who spoke English) about how he wouldn't be getting a sale out of me ha-ha.

tigger73

10-06-2016, 02:09 PM

Australian specs are out for the 2017 Tiguan: 2017 Tiguan - Road Vehicle Descriptor (http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/perl/39378_1178215_RVD_27May2016143146.cmd)

Looks like the initial specs are showing 110TSI and 132TSI engines only (no diesel at this stage). I suspect VW aren't going to release a diesel until they clear out all the MY15 130TDI's that are caught up in the dieselgate saga.

Also there's no 162TSI either, though there are wheel options from 17 x 7 up to 20 x 8.5

Sharkie

10-06-2016, 05:02 PM

You can also download the latest brochure (PDF) from VW UK. I did that yesterday. It has all the models except the 162TSI in there. Also has details of the 176kw BiTDI ....

Heads-up display and digital dash looks awesome.

This is still #1 pick for my wife's car replacement next year, though the timing may interfere with the arrival of my Mustang ......

tigger73

11-06-2016, 12:12 AM

A little closer look at the specs comparison on the MY17 Tig:

110TSI

Mk7 Golf GTI brake set-up (312mm front / 300mm rear)
DQ250 6 Speed DSG
FWD
1800kg (braked) towing capacity
stock wheel 7Jx17 - 215/65 R17

132TSI

Upgraded 340mm front brakes from Golf R
DQ500 7 Speed DSG
AWD
2500kg (braked) towing capacity
stock wheel 7Jx17 - 215/65 R17 (same size)

andrew7

11-06-2016, 12:18 PM

Shame they're delaying the diesel (as I'm in the market for one): also somewhat surprising given it generally makes up a large proportion of sales.

OilBurna

11-06-2016, 12:21 PM

132tso looks ok assume easy to bump up the power with a tune

tigger73

11-06-2016, 01:37 PM

Shame they're delaying the diesel (as I'm in the market for one): also somewhat surprising given it generally makes up a large proportion of sales.

Just FYI all the current MY15 130TDIs have been pulled from the market and are sitting at VWA waiting for a fix to the dieselgate issues. So my guess is they don't want to release the MY17 Tig diesel until they have cleared all the backlog of unsold MY15 stock.

132tso looks ok assume easy to bump up the power with a tune

Yes the good thing about the 132TSI is that it uses the 2 litre instead of the 1.8 litre motor. Should be able to tweak up to same levels as the current Mk7 GTI given that it's effectively the same motor.

Janko

13-06-2016, 12:18 PM

110TSI

Mk7 Golf GTI brake set-up (312mm front / 300mm rear)
DQ250 6 Speed DSG
FWD
1800kg (braked) towing capacity
stock wheel 7Jx17 - 215/65 R17

any idea if it is possible to get this model with all the optional extras?

tigger73

13-06-2016, 12:39 PM

any idea if it is possible to get this model with all the optional extras?

The 110TSI FWD will be the base/entry level model. The Road Vehicle Certification System (RVCS) only tells you the mechanical specifications of the vehicle in terms of weights/dimensions/engine capacity/etc.

For vehicle certification, it doesn't matter if the car has sat-nav or bi-xenon headlights with LED DRL's or not. The only thing that matters is options which impact on ADR compliance (Air Conditioning, Antilock Brakes, Power Windows, Power Mirrors, Driver's Airbag, Passenger's Airbag, Central Locking, Alloy Wheels, Side Airbags, Front Fog Lights, Rear Fog Light, Sun Roof, etc). You'll have to wait until closer to the launch date once the full specs/options are released for that type of information.

Also likely if you want a particular spec/colour you'll have to place an order for it as there will be limited options available at model launch.

nickows

13-06-2016, 09:01 PM

tigger73

13-06-2016, 10:13 PM

Are the 132TSI and 162TSI effectively the same engine as found in the Golf GTI (with the 132TSI being detuned)?

Or are they a new (or overhauled) engine? I get the impression the 2.0 TFSI engine in the new Audi A4 (and updated Audi A3) is a new generation of engine, and wonder if the new Tiguan will get these same engines?

The current model 155TSI and 132TSI are essentially the same engine as Mk6 GTI with different states of tune.

The 2017 Tiguan is only coming as 132TSI at this stage (no 162TSI yet). This is an all new engine and not just the same as the MY15 132TSI, although it has identical output. I'm not sure what the differences are but MY17 Tig 132TSI is a CZPA engine compared to MY15 132TSI is CCZD. Whether it's just that MY17 Tig is the MQB platform and the older engine is for the PQ35, you'd have to dig into the details to see what the differences are.

Sharkie

14-06-2016, 10:18 AM

New 2.0 TSI engines are Gen 3 EA888 as in the MK7 Golf GTI. 2 different states of tune. Expect the same power tuned from both (and the same essentially as a tuned MK7 GTI) ~210kw/500NM).

The difference will be in the other specifications with the 132 being the povo pack and the 162 being the top of the line, same as a current 132 and 155.

tigger73

14-06-2016, 05:49 PM

New 2.0 TSI engines are Gen 3 EA888 as in the MK7 Golf GTI. 2 different states of tune. Expect the same power tuned from both (and the same essentially as a tuned MK7 GTI) ~210kw/500NM).

Tuning the new MY17 Tig will make for some quick SUVs running around the 'burbs.

The difference will be in the other specifications with the 132 being the povo pack and the 162 being the top of the line, same as a current 132 and 155.

But at this stage there is only a 110TSI FWD and 132TSI AWD model. There's no diesel and no high powered petrol option at launch (unless there's additional approvals).

It seriously looks like the diesel is going to be delayed and who knows if there will be a 162TSI or if they'll just run 2 levels of trim on the 132TSI (standard and highline).

We'll have to wait and see if we even get an R-line kit. From the wheel options it looks like there could well be something like this in the line-up as there's some wider wheel options in there which I imagine would be fitted with flared arches.

nickows

14-06-2016, 07:37 PM

Thanks for the info tigger73 and Sharkie

Sharkie

15-06-2016, 04:36 PM

Tuning the new MY17 Tig will make for some quick SUVs running around the 'burbs.

But at this stage there is only a 110TSI FWD and 132TSI AWD model. There's no diesel and no high powered petrol option at launch (unless there's additional approvals).

It seriously looks like the diesel is going to be delayed and who knows if there will be a 162TSI or if they'll just run 2 levels of trim on the 132TSI (standard and highline).

We'll have to wait and see if we even get an R-line kit. From the wheel options it looks like there could well be something like this in the line-up as there's some wider wheel options in there which I imagine would be fitted with flared arches.

Yup, although the 162TSI was announced when the new Tiguan was revealed to the world, no market anywhere has them yet. I'd be interested to know why .....

I won't be placing an order until the 162TSI gets released in Australia. This time around I want the extras of the top model in contrast to when I ordered our previous 1 (which was only because I could only get a manual in the lower specced model).

tigger73

16-06-2016, 02:58 PM

Sharkie I have some good news for you. 162TSI will be coming to Aus. It just won't be available at launch. Spoke to a reliable source today who confirmed details. I'll post up some more info on all models tonight.

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andrew7

16-06-2016, 03:41 PM

Good work Tigger :)

Oz specifications released : 2017 Volkswagen Tiguan:: Australian specifications revealed (http://www.caradvice.com.au/454191/2017-volkswagen-tiguan-specifications-revealed/)

Sign me up for a 140TDI Highline with DAP (provided pricing is not silly)! Of note is Discover Pro navigation; is this a first in a VW in Australia? And the Active Info Display. Really like the spec list, think they have it spot on.

cellrsx

16-06-2016, 05:44 PM

Good work Tigger :)

Oz specifications released : 2017 Volkswagen Tiguan:: Australian specifications revealed (http://www.caradvice.com.au/454191/2017-volkswagen-tiguan-specifications-revealed/)

So if the 162TSI won't be available at launch then according to the the specs at Car Advice you won't be able to buy a petrol Highline in September.

Any word on when the 162TSI will appear?

Comfortline can be optioned with the luxury pack to get the panoramic sunroof, but no mention if the sunroof is standard on Highline (or how the Highline can get the pano roof)

tigger73

16-06-2016, 09:31 PM

OK so a few more details on the new Tiguan. As the article says there's 5 engine options (110TSI, 110TDI, 132TSI, 140TDI, 162TSI) and 3 trim levels (Trendline, Comfortline, Highline). Models available at launch are the Comfortline and 110TSI Trendline DSG. The 110TSI Trendline which is the only manual and both Highline models (162TSI/140TDI) are coming later. Not sure how much later but hopefully this side of Xmas.

There's some really nice standard features across all models including:

- front assist with emergency brake
- lane and park assist
- driver fatigue detection
- active bonnet
- multi-collision brake
- RVC
- LED tail lights

There's option packs for the Comfortline/Highline models

Comfortline Plus
- leather electric/heated seats
- power mirrors
- keyless entry
- electric tailgate
- pano sunroof

Driver Assistance
- adaptive cruise control ACC
- side assist and rear traffic alert
- power folding mirrors
- area view
- active info display

R-line (Highline only)
- exterior skirts/body mouldings
- interior trims
- 20" alloys
- Adaptive Chassis control
- Progressive steering

No pricing yet but this should be hopefully out next month with the first cars getting to dealers in August. Official release/launch in September.

tigger73

16-06-2016, 09:51 PM

So if the 162TSI won't be available at launch then according to the the specs at Car Advice you won't be able to buy a petrol Highline in September.

Correct the Highline has either the 162TSI engine or 140TDI. Unfortunately neither of these engine options will be available at launch.

Any word on when the 162TSI will appear?

It will likely be 4th quarter - best guess is October/November. But that's just a complete guess based on no facts at all :)

I think VW sees the massive potential in the SUV market here and so has added an engine to the line-up and extra options to fill out the range.

Comfortline can be optioned with the luxury pack to get the panoramic sunroof, but no mention if the sunroof is standard on Highline (or how the Highline can get the pano roof)

Panoramic Roof will be an option on the Highline so people can choose to have it or not. If you want leather without the roof then you have to go for the Highline as when you add leather to the Comfortline you get the Pano roof in with the pack. It's a bit strange but that's what you get when you have bundled package options.

Will have to see how the pricing lines up with the various models/packages. Though I'm thinking a fully loaded R-line 162TSI with Driver Assistance and sunroof is going to be heading towards $60k.

cellrsx

16-06-2016, 10:02 PM

Will have to see how the pricing lines up with the various models/packages. Though I'm thinking a fully loaded R-line 162TSI with Driver Assistance and sunroof is going to be heading towards $60k.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Told my wife I reckon it will edge 60K and her response was "Awesome" so not sure what to make of that :)

Thanks heaps for the added info too.

Shota

16-06-2016, 10:26 PM

Will LED headlights be an option for the comfort line package?

newVWplease

16-06-2016, 10:32 PM

Panoramic Roof will be an option on the Highline so people can choose to have it or not. If you want leather without the roof then you have to go for the Highline as when you add leather to the Comfortline you get the Pano roof in with the pack. It's a bit strange but that's what you get when you have bundled package options.

Bummer, that counts me out then. Was really hoping that the pano roof would be an individual only option at all levels. Maybe I am in the minority but I just can't stand them, don't want it and don't want to pay for it.

I wanted a mid range engine (Comfortline) but with the added luxury/comfort/tech goodies. But in doing so I will get the unwanted pano roof.

So the only way to not get it (but to get the other fun stuff) is to go the Highline, but that will be out of my price range and give me a bigger/thirstier engine that I don't want.

Was hoping this would be my first VW purchase, but sadly not to be :(

tigger73

16-06-2016, 10:42 PM

Bummer, that counts me out then. Was really hoping that the pano roof would be an individual only option at all levels. Maybe I am in the minority but I just can't stand them, don't want it and don't want to pay for it.

I wanted a mid range engine (Comfortline) but with the added luxury/comfort/tech goodies. But in doing so I will get the unwanted pano roof.

So the only way to not get it (but to get the other fun stuff) is to go the Highline, but that will be out of my price range and give me a bigger/thirstier engine that I don't want.

Was hoping this would be my first VW purchase, but sadly not to be :(

Seriously wait until the pricing gets released as I don't think there will be much in it between the 132TSI Comfortline with Luxury Pack and the 162TSI Highline. If you want all the gadgets without the roof then you'll need to go the Highline.

When you bundle options in a pack it's almost impossible to please everyone. There's always going to be some things in a pack that you wouldn't necessarily have optioned if you were able to select them individually.

Though it definitely helps from a stocking point of view if you only have a couple of packs/options.